I hear you make a mistake a lot of people make. Going from 4" to 8" pipe does not double the capacity of the pipe, it quadruples it. So you would have to bury 4 4" pipes to equal the capacity of 1 8" pipe. In short I would just replace the 4"pipe with an 8" pipe, or, if you have the room, leave the current 4" and add an 8" (giving you 4 times the capacity.

@sassafrasvalley1939

9 ай бұрын

That’s correct…. Pi R squared not doubled!

@scottbarnwell512

9 ай бұрын

Exactly! Two 4" pipes would almost be equal to one 6" pipe.

@TheFirewoodHut

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely the way to go! Good comment, Dropshot!

@randellgann1345

9 ай бұрын

In most drainage design, 12” pipe is a minimum size. You are collecting a lot of water. Might want to consider going really big, or go home.

@brianhillis3701

9 ай бұрын

Also the surface friction on the walls of the pipe are much less important. Why did you make the sides so steep? Hard to maintain, subject to erosion, etc. Put cobbles and then gravel over the eroded areas.

I would do a River rather than underground drains. You’d have a little waterfall feature.

Hi Adam,as a professional fire fighter in Canada,and have experienced numerous rural fires , you have a great resource for firefighting and that is your pond. I don’t know where the closest fire hydrant is to your home is but if you made a pad near the pond for drafting water from or even pump from that would save a lot of time or even save your house. I would get your local fire department to give their opinion. Great show!!! Dale Ontario Canada

@HometownAcres

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info

@georgea6403

9 ай бұрын

May even put a slight dent in your homeowners insurance.

@georgea6403

9 ай бұрын

I believe they make special hookups that are permanently in the pond to make it easily accessible for the fireman. May need to put it in before it’s full. I dunno just saying

@russellsmith3825

9 ай бұрын

Yes, a dry hydrant would be an easy bonus.

@georgea6403

9 ай бұрын

@@russellsmith3825 there ya go Adam. Got another chore to do. Lol.

Hey Adam I saw you riding by on lippert road yesterday I was on my wheel horse on my way to work cool to see you around

Thanks for the update!!!

** Adam, in addition to your French drain system, you need a two prong approach to water management. In the area where you mentioned that surface water pools and runs over the French drain and then overtops the pond, washing away your new clay, you need to add a surface water grate to collect water that is unable to seep down into the French drain. Use an in-line grate on the existing drain pipe and/or a separate surface drain with its own pipe to the pond. Surround the grate drain with a small berm to direct the surface water into the drain and prevent running directly into the pond. Hope this helps!

The only reason I tune into your channel anymore is to see where this trainwreck is... good to see you've finally conquered the leakage

I've learned so much about ponds from watching your videos. The biggest things I've learned is that I'd never want a pond. Too much work and money for this old man It does however look great 👍 Have a Jesus filled day everyone Greg in Michigan

@HometownAcres

9 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that

@dlterm

9 ай бұрын

I am re-thinking the whole pond thing also. Two things I've learned: 1) I would never try to do it myself. 2) Hire a company that does a lot of pre-dig testing.

Lay large rock or limestone on the bank after you replace the clay. This will slow the water down and prevent the erosion.

@moogyzl

9 ай бұрын

YES! Lining a filter fabric (non wooven) between the rock and the clay would help with erosion even more

@dezareapuliti5086

9 ай бұрын

Heavy rock on top of soil will erode no matter what is done heavy gravel should have put down with cinder block brim, and then add heavy rock on top of gravel

As long as you have the hole open I'd put two eight in pipes in...over kill is cheaper than having to dig it out again. Looking forward to seeing the pond full.

@fitterextraordinaire2856

9 ай бұрын

Adam likes doing things a couple times before it's done right. LOL

Looks great

Hey Adam, just a suggestion from a nobody. You may want to explore the possibility of going further up into the woods and maybe using a water bar type of solution in several different spots to redirect the water across the hillside and away from your backyard. No matter how big of a pipe you put in the ground if you fill it up to its maximum capacity the Additional runoff will skip right over the top of it and continue down the banks of your pond. From the looks of your property in the background, it looks like it is all uphill behind your house again my suggestion would be to go up in the woods and take a good hard look at the path of the water and try to redirect it. You’re never going to stop it. I know you’ve been told that before.🙂👍

Looks excellent!

Great video Adam. Use your accounting skills. Length of pref pipe calc. vol. / min and what a 8" or 6" vol/min is. Enjoy all accounting nerdy stuff.

Thanks for the update. Glad it’s working as planned

Looking good Adam.

Good plan Adam.

The pond is looking great

Good luck with the pond. Stay safe.

Pond is looking great! Glad you're feeling good about it!

Great video Adam

The ponds looking good Adam.

Yes yes yes pond update 🎉🎉🎉

Love the pond,thanks for the update Adam! Take care and God Bless!!!

I get such an excited feeling whenever I see a pond update video! Fantastic to see that it looks like it is going well.

Should add some berms on the slopes leading to the pond to slow down the water run off

The numerous rocks that are shOwing in the sides of the pond is worrisome. If those rocks are in the soil they give a lot of pathways through the soil that could cause leakage.

That was a great update! It’s good to see you planning, always smarter not harder. You’ve done an incredible job with your pond. See you in the next installment.

Pond is looking awesome, bring on the winter ice skating soon in a very full pond

If you are going to update the french drain, you might want a way to divert the flow away from the pond for when the pond is full. Unless you think ur stand pipe can handle an 8 inch inflow during a huge water event (think hurricane rains). Having the option to divert those waters away in extreme rains might save you a couple headaches in the future.

Great looking pond!! Glad you know what has to be done to help keep it the way you want it to be. Stay Hydrated and Have a Safe Day

Pond is looking great!! I'm also looking forward to seeing the water go into the overflow pipe.

Possibly cut in a swale to divert any water that doesn't go into the french drain to keep out of/eroding pond.

You really need to install some "splash guarding" to slow the water down from the pipes as it enters your pond. You could do this using 6"-8" Rip-Rap,flat patio stones from a quarry, or concrete...

Glad to hear it is holding water. Love the color of the water as well!

@HometownAcres

9 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

its looking promising, Fingers crossed it stays that way.

Looks great! It will be full in no time.

@HometownAcres

9 ай бұрын

I hope so!

Looking good Adam. I think u got it fixed now. Be awesome to see you guys ice skating on it this winter.

1 load but probably like 3 loads :D I like how it's looking, this time it will hold.

0:14 I've watched all of your videos and could see the pond in multiple videos. I watched it slowly filling and only wondered if the clay bottom was holding. If it filled then it was holding, if it did not make it to the overflow then ... Some people just don't have patience. I can wait.

With a few modifications it sure does look encouraging Adam!!

Kayaking around with a measured line/sinker tossed in for current depth updates would be fun to see. For extra fun.. replace the line with yourself 😅 Thanks for all the great content and congratulations on your growth as a content creator! Inspiring stuff!

@vadjrob

9 ай бұрын

For super bonus fun points… if it’s above your height and arm extension, take neighbor Doug out to stand on your underwater shoulders! We’ll know you’ve made it when Doug has to hold his breath too😂

Looks great mate, get your couple of issues sorted now when there is decent weather then hopefully you can relax and enjoy it with your family all winter. 😊

Nice video Adam

@HometownAcres

9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Woohooo pond looking awesome 👌 must be time to get cutting some more firewood to get those big piles cut up before winter!!

Great video - love your channel and your work. AND: - Can you create a berm at the end of the perc. pipe? A large (18X18) drain with a domed cover. And hook it to your new add’l 4” or 8” line. - Did your wrap your perc pipe with filter fabric to keep the fines from clogging the pipe? - Habe you calc’d the standpipe for capacity in the event of a major rain event? I’m no expert, but it looks a little small to me. It’s now or never (since you’re bringing more clay anyways) to upsize it if necessary. Again, I love your projects. Ps Hi chu, I left the accounting/banking/finance career and am now a licensed contractor lol…

I would also think about making a dissipater pad at the end of the 8 inch pipe to prevent any erosion in the future. Get some landscape fabric along with rift raft boulders at the end of the pipe.

I know this might be a lil expensive but riprap ar9und rhe pond would help. The pond is ver6 sloped so any rain is going to push your clay down and your aupport banks. I like your pond videos keep em coming brother!

Have you considered putting up a temporary silt fence until the pond reaches capacity.

Should be a cold winter…hopefully we get more than one day of ice hockey!…looking good Hometown!

My problem was trying to maintain the proper moisture level in the clay while building the dam (needed a bigger dozer). We stocked with large mouth bass & blue gill. Dogs will help keep geese away, geese can suck it. If you keep having problems ask the Army Corps inspector guy dude about it, he was helpful. Your place is super cool.

Why terminate the French drain to a solid pipe? Just run that buried gravel trench all the way to the pond and terminate with some field stone.

After you add the clay, put down fabric and rip rap to keep it from eroding.

You showed the puddles accumulated after the "backup" on the Drain. Your problem may also be your "solution". My French Drain also accumulated sand/dirt. But, I had a 2500 gal cistern up the hill. It allowed a brief time for some dirt/sand to settle. Much less "stuff" reached the house for my water system. After you increase the diameter of your downward slope of the French Drain you can use your imagination to construct an above-ground "cistern" to capture the heavier sediment with an overflow into the pond. The water will be pre-filter (to an extent). I "see" (to start with) using railroad ties 8' x 8' x (downhill slope side). You can easily go to two ties high??? It will soon be a sandbox to play in?

I'm so hopeful that you will finally have a leak-free pond! You've worked so hard and learned so much from it. When I put a pond in over here in NE Ohio, I'll have to hire you as a consultant 😁👍

@HometownAcres

9 ай бұрын

I won’t say I know what to do but I definitely know what not to do haha

@sameaston1301

9 ай бұрын

@@HometownAcres 🤣

GOOOOOOOOOD MAAAAAAAAWNIN EVERYONE from a very miserably humid Virginia Beach….

Two 4s do NOT equal an eight when it comes to pipe volumes. You'd need four of them. Just add an eight to the four-incher. It's the radius-squared rule.

@AdamsMom921

9 ай бұрын

That’s what he is planning- adding the 8” to the 4. We just discussed this today after pouring another step! 😁

HOW do you figure all of that out?? 😵‍💫 I'm impressed at the progress you've made & your sticktoitiveness - is that a real word??!! 😂 👍💪🤩 I can't wait to see y'all ice skating!! It will be worth all your efforts & money for the memories you & your family will have❣️ God bless y'all! 🙏❤️👍

Somebody probably already mentioned this since it's pretty obvious, but I'm fairly certain that you gonna have some issues with overflow. If your standing pipe can't cope and the water overtops your dam, it'll cut through it like butter and you'll lose the whole pond.

Looks good adam! You are definitely going to need a dock for next year

@andydsimmons

9 ай бұрын

Dock build is a good project

@HometownAcres

9 ай бұрын

That's the plan!

A rip-rap dissipation pad between the landing and below the waterline would help stop erosion when the inevitable overflow from the surface drainage occurs. No?

In my experience with french drains and similar concepts on my property I would try and keep the water on the surface as much as possible. French drains clog up. Perhaps put in concrete catch basin where the water comes out of the perforated pipe the transition to at least 12" plastic culvert pipe until you get the water to daylight at minimal slope. The rest of the way use landscape fabric and rock to prevent erosion all the way into the pond.

I have been judging the water level with the toy excavator. 😂 you can’t move it now or I will have no idea if the water has come up…😊

@HometownAcres

9 ай бұрын

Lol

Good pond update, Adam. Glad to see that your repairs seem to be working. How is the step project to your house progressing?

Good update Adam, have you finished the steps yet I would like to see how they turned out.

Adam, what if you put clay with rip rap along that edge? It’s still beautiful and once you get the pond all sorted out it’ll be great! 🙏👍🇺🇸

I would consider a swale for excessive water rather than larger pipe. Once you've filled the pond more water during a heavy storm likely will be a bigger problem. Keep it choked but provide a swale for overflow control.

Comment for the algorithm to help the channel 👍👍👍.

Adam, go with the 8" pipe!

It looks like you use pond dye,it sure helps to prevent algae and weeds and predator birds if you stock your pond with fish,a good aeration system helps too.

That pipe system is smart. Surface water is dirty water imo. The pipe is filtering it. It should kerp the water clearer and decrease sediment build up.

Hello Adam, thank you for the latest post. Glad you are finally having some success. Can't believe how many people have answered your post here in the last few hours. I'm building a pond myself right now and I thought I would check in on your progress. Did you add blue dye to the water, looks awesome! If you did add die and would love to know what color and what manufacturer. I have a lot of red clay that I'm working with and I'm concerned that my water is going to be red!

Instead of digging up all of that pipe (which I honestly don't think will solve your problem), I would put some riprap where that watershed hits the pond. If the water is bubbling up it could be that it's not getting into the pipe fast enough (not enough weeping holes), not that it's filling the pipe. If that's the case then you are going to bubble up anyways, even with an 8" pipe.

Great progress! And that blue color in the water looks really good. Our insurance company asked us if we were close to a pond - because it would make our insurance bill go down slightly (water availability in case of a fire). Did you get a reduction in your insurance when you built the pond?

I think you need to divert all surface water around the pond and just let the water from your underwater collection go into the pond.

Very rocky clay

I’m a little concerned that your overflow standpipe might not be large enough.

@johnclark5153

9 ай бұрын

We discussed this issue before. It was a stand pipe or spillway. May need to add an emergency spillway but we need to get the pond full first. We can't wait to see the stand pipe overflow. It will be a happy day for sure.

@titosrevenger

9 ай бұрын

There is a spillway as well, isn't there?

@scottyhager474

9 ай бұрын

@@titosrevenger John replied above that they might need to add the spillway - will do that later if they think it is needed.

@robertwazniak9495

9 ай бұрын

If I remember correctly, there is a spillway near where he has his erosion problem. It is there because it should be in virgin/undisturbed soil so it doesn't erode as easily.

@titosrevenger

9 ай бұрын

@@robertwazniak9495 Exactly. I'm quite certain a spillway already exists. He's not relying solely on the standpipe.

Love the pond updates. I don’t know if this applies to you or not but the USDA Soil Conservation Service may have some grant money/subsidy for your pond. Don’t know if it’s in effect in PA or not. I know it is /was in other states. May be worth a look see. Brian.

Who knew building a pond was so difficult and expensive.

@BigDaddyKrapper

9 ай бұрын

It isn't if you do it right.

Someone once said "A boat is a hole in the water that you throw your money into". It looks as if you have the hole and the water. You just don't have the boat!

Would a larger natural rock channel at the entry of the pond work better than the french drain and 4" pipe idea? Different sizes of river rock or something that looks good and stops the erosion into the pond.

Two 4" pipes definitely isn't enough. You have to think in terms of beyond your need not what you need, then hope you didn't underestimate.

Thanks for the update. Looks good. Did you scribe the level marks on the standpipe? Sawcut or ?? Top marker will disappear.

12" drain pipe would be best

Keep your fingers crossed.... hey you and Doug headed to the Paul Bouyon show this year?

@HometownAcres

9 ай бұрын

Yes we’ll be there

what are your fish stocking plans?

Looking good! Think you made the right decision. Ps where is the "big thumbs up" button? My phone only has a small one. 😂

@HometownAcres

9 ай бұрын

It’s reserved the VIP’s. Deductive reasoning should let you know where you stand

10 to 12 inch pipe. I think you have more than an 8 inch pipe can handle at "hide" tide

Are you planning on stocking the pond with some fish?

I'm just wondering that it looks like a lot of rocks or slabs of shale or something above the high water mark in this video ? If so how are they not something to worry about. They won't swell up with water and won't keep the new clay from sliding. Sorry , just concerned. Good luck. Hope to see a full pond soon.

I see you've added a 2nd excavator to your fleet :)

@HometownAcres

9 ай бұрын

Lol yes

A 4 inch pipe is around 75 gpm a 6 inch pipe is around 175 gpm ..gpm. .. installing a 6 inch pipe nect week and a catch basin

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Maybe a small concrete drainage channel from the end of the french drain and down into the pond makes the most sense. To me the main issue is that you haven't calculated the actual expected flow rate first, so you can design a solution that can handle the flow. You're doing the hillbilly engineering technique instead of using civil engineering science: "I'll just keep adding pipes 'til it works and stops eroding." There are published charts and people that can calculate the flow and design you something for you to install or build.

Adam…what’s your guess on the date of the pond’s topping-off? 👍

You don't have an overflow on the pond. It is used for controlled drainage of water during torrential rains. If you do not relieve the pond, the water will find its way on its own, usually at the lowest point of the dam and destroy it.

@HometownAcres

6 ай бұрын

I do have an emergency overflow

@vladimirhricak565

6 ай бұрын

@@HometownAcres It is not visible in the video. It depends on the catchment area and the expected precipitation. In the Czech Republic, most ponds have a side trough, stacked with stones and led outside the body of the dam.

Do you have access to larger rocks,I lined all my pond shoreline with rock to prevent shoreline erosion,we had 4and 1/2 inches rain in 20 minutes and it held pretty good. Low water level leads to erosion especially when water level drops below waterline.

Id definitely put an 8in pipe in

two 4" pipes does not an 8" pipe make.

What do you use to achieve the blue color of your water?