Polytech AKS - The First Wave of Semiauto Chinese AK Rifles

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The first semiauto commercial AK rifles to enter the US were Finnish Valmets. These established a US collector interested but while excellent in quality, they did not quite fit the visual pattern of the classic Sino-Soviet military Kalashnikov. The first of those to find its way into the US was the Egyptian Maadi, a Russian rifle made under license in Egypt, and imported by Steyr. The explosion of interest in the Maadi guns was tempered by their high price, and it became clear that a low-cost historical military-pattern AK would be very popular.
One of the first companies to react to this opportunity was Poly Technologies (Polytech) of Beijing, China. They arranged manufacture of a semiautomatic only commercial copy of the Chinese military Type 56 AK first by Factory 416 in Shan Dong and later by factory 386 in Fu Jian to bring into the US. First in 5.56mm and quickly followed by 7.62x39mm, these were high quality rifles at half the price or less than the Egyptian Maadis. They were offered in fixed stock and underflowing patterns, with an underflowing spike bayonet unique to Polytech imports. Two different side-folding stock were also offered, although in smaller numbers. Importation would last for only a few year, cut off by the 1989 Assault Weapon Import Ban.
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  • @d.pierce.6820
    @d.pierce.68202 жыл бұрын

    Come with me to a Michigan gun show in the '80s: When you walked in, what you noticed most were wooden crates-crates full of new AKs and SKS rifles soaked in cosmoline-crate after crate after crate, all through the show. New SKS rifles were $69, but I don't remember how much the AKs were. In addition to the crates of firearms were pallet loads of ammo-wooden crates of yellow box Norinco ammo, dirt cheap. If Combloc firearms weren't your thing, you could take your pick of M1 Garands, $200 each, or M1 Carbines, $150 each. Plenty of vendors had bins full of spare parts for them,too, so if you had patience and a reference book, you could mix-and-match your way to a "correct" rifle or carbine. If you were a 98k guy, you could take your pick of Russian capture 98ks for $60 (with peened waffen marks), or ones with unmolested markings for a bit more. Piles of WW1 mausers and Turkish Mausers for pocket change,too. We'll never see times like that again, sadly.

  • @kaibowman4803

    @kaibowman4803

    3 ай бұрын

    For some perspective to today's prices, assuming 1985 as the year in question, an SKS would cost $199, a Garand $577, an M1 Carbine would be $432, and a Mauser would be $173. That's an inflation rate of 188%. Frankly, that's what the price should be for all of these.

  • @winstonholmes5566

    @winstonholmes5566

    3 ай бұрын

    I grew up in the wrong time

  • @fludblud
    @fludblud3 жыл бұрын

    China Poly Group is unique in that you can auction fine art on the 3rd floor then buy missiles on the 27th at their company headquarters in Beijing.

  • @john-paulsilke893

    @john-paulsilke893

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don’t forget fashion and ladies garments on the 6th floor, school supplies on the 12th floor groceries, (long shelf life products) on floor 22 and of course life insurance on the same floor as their real estate on the 38th floor.

  • @thesturm8686

    @thesturm8686

    3 жыл бұрын

    So i can get a bottle of milk and a life insurance to go with my RPG-7? Sounds like a good business scheme to me

  • @shidashide493

    @shidashide493

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don‘t forget they also have a cinema on the top floor

  • @Seeker-wq8jc

    @Seeker-wq8jc

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is floor 69 nothing but sex toys and BDSM gear?

  • @randymagnum143

    @randymagnum143

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Samuel Prince if walmart were run by the government.

  • @shananagans5
    @shananagans53 жыл бұрын

    I have a milled version. They are really, really nice. A tad on the heavy side for me but I am a thin woman. I packed it away when I got my first AR. Kinda glad I did now. It's now the gun version of a classic Corvette that got driven one summer and then parked.

  • @evancrosley2857

    @evancrosley2857

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have the same situation. A few guns that are just getting too expensive to have fun with on the range, and are turning into investments lol.

  • @shananagans5

    @shananagans5

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@evancrosley2857 I am finding I am building up huge numbers. I only have a few that are turning into investments but when I was younger I had to sell or trade one on occasion. After college I got a reasonable job and didn't need to sell much. Buying 2,3, or 4 a year really starts to add up at my age. Ugg, reminds me how old I am. On the up side, I have a great collection.

  • @Lockbar

    @Lockbar

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have the exact same rifle as in this video. Bought it in 1988, and have only put 150 rounds through it in 32 years. My favorite rifle I own because of its complete political incorrectness.

  • @shananagans5

    @shananagans5

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Lockbar Nice. I got mine around that time. My boyfriend at the time bought 1,000 rounds. That 1,000 rounds was split among that AK and two SKs. Probably more than half went through the AK so it's got 7 or 800 through it but it looks brand new. I paid $650 for it back then so I took really good care of it. That was pretty expensive back then. lol Especially considering the $69 SK specials. Everyone our age recalls pulling an SK out of a straw filled crate direct from China. Oh, and the paper wrapped rounds. lol Good Times!!

  • @Steve_I

    @Steve_I

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@shananagans5 hell yeah, I remember getting 1000rds for $80 shipped to the door lol

  • @jackusmc2542
    @jackusmc25423 жыл бұрын

    I have a Polytech 762S side folder. It is an outstanding rifle, well made, well fitted and it is blued not painted. I bought it in 88 before the ban and glad I did. Great video.

  • @hairydogstail

    @hairydogstail

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too, it is a great rifle.

  • @Mikhail-Tkachenko

    @Mikhail-Tkachenko

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for letting that ban happen.

  • @hairydogstail

    @hairydogstail

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Mikhail-Tkachenko You're welcome. You youngins think you know so much more than us old farts, so we will let you get our gun rights back. Sad thing is, all I see is a bunch of gender confused idiots protesting their freedoms by pushing communism and burning our cities down..If it wasn't for us pro gun old farts, you wouldn't have any gun rights today. This has been an up hill battle since before I was born..

  • @vik5592

    @vik5592

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hairydogstail “most” are libtards but people like John Doyle makes me believe that there’s still hope for this generation 🙏

  • @invisibleguerrillaweaponwe6472

    @invisibleguerrillaweaponwe6472

    Жыл бұрын

    You guys haven't been looking so good lately. Now you know how we feel ALL THE TIME hahaha

  • @christ4032
    @christ40323 жыл бұрын

    Non-stop entertainment everyday from Ian, how does the man do it.

  • @gabba1132

    @gabba1132

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't know, is he even human?!

  • @TheZINGularity

    @TheZINGularity

    3 жыл бұрын

    Miracles from prophets tend to defy logic

  • @1911dawg

    @1911dawg

    3 жыл бұрын

    Who wouldn't want his job, he gets to poke around guns all day.

  • @gabba1132

    @gabba1132

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to have that job, but I bet it's hard to research about guns everyday, it's history, how it works and all that

  • @frysebox1

    @frysebox1

    3 жыл бұрын

    he's a big enough nerd to probably enjoy researching guns all day and I mean that in a positive way, if your hobby is also your job you aren't really working

  • @leg3ND451
    @leg3ND4513 жыл бұрын

    It's funny how little people have heard of Polytech. They also made a copy of the M-14 rifle, which are actually nice rifles.

  • @nickirmen6671

    @nickirmen6671

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mike Gerringer I love your pfp

  • @leg3ND451

    @leg3ND451

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nickirmen6671 I miss Bad Company 2 lol Vietnam DLC was dope!

  • @misplacedhillbilly7594

    @misplacedhillbilly7594

    3 жыл бұрын

    I had a Norinco ak (mak-90) and a Polytech M14. Wish I hadn't gotten rid of either. The M14 was a great shooter, if I did my part it had no problem keeping 20 rnds in the bottom of a red solo cup at 100 yards. Sure not match grade accuracy,but 20 rounds in a 2 inch group at 100yrds aint shabby for a bone stock battle rifle.

  • @leg3ND451

    @leg3ND451

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@misplacedhillbilly7594 that's fricken cool; I've only ever seen one that was transferred into the Gunshop I work at lol

  • @brucerobert227
    @brucerobert2273 жыл бұрын

    lived only a few hours from Keng's Firearms and used to drive there and got to know several people there. It was a neat place for sure! I remember seeing the Drum Fed Type 81 semi autos there once and did not know what it was so I didn't buy one! As i recall they were expensive for the time, $800 as opposed to the Poly Tech AK you see there that sold for $350! The neatest thing about Keng's were all the things that came in that they COULDN'T sell. I was once shown thier lockup room for items to be either sent back or to be picked up by the ATF. In it were numerous full auto Broomhandles, Chinese PPSH submachineguns, and other such nonsense. NEAT TIMES!

  • @hairydogstail
    @hairydogstail3 жыл бұрын

    Maadi AK's came in the early 80's, then the Chinese variants. I remember the gun magazines calling them beer can guns. They worked great and ammo was cheaper than 22 LR. I used a Poly side folder as my pack gun in Montana, "back in the 80's" which upset most fuds and most people alike. I found it to be a modern Winchester 3030 and shot many deer with it. Polytech AK's were well made and had higher quality than the Norico variant.They also had a firing pin spring which the Norico didn't have, which was safer to use with domestic made ammunition that didn't have harder primers. I modified my Norinco to take a Galil firing pin and spring for this reason.The crimped flutes on the sheet metal gas piston tube," is where the gas vent occurs" and the holes drilled in it was completely unnecessary. Thank you Peter Kokalis for this info. My how times have changed with modern sporting rifles.

  • @Jreb1865

    @Jreb1865

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'll take my Maddi I bought brand new in 1990 for 600.00 any day...A friend that owned a pawn shop called me, and told me someone just sold him 2....new in the box...I got one and he got the other...love it.....Same weapon as used in Red Dawn..only they were converted to full auto, back in 1986...Shoots like a dream...

  • @henryrodgers7386

    @henryrodgers7386

    3 жыл бұрын

    My father got similar reactions to his Norinco SKS, at about the same time. It's quite nice to shoot, much better than the shortened "Fudd Special" 8mm Mauser he had been using. And both guns cost about the same!

  • @MrJeepmarine

    @MrJeepmarine

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bought my first AK at a gunshow around 1994 or 5. I wanted to get a Akm "before they got banned" there were nice ones there made by i want to say Hungary, but I couldn't afford one. So I bought a Maadi for $210 with 3 Chinese Magazines. Great rifle though.

  • @hairydogstail

    @hairydogstail

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Jreb1865 Nothing wrong with the Maadi, a relative of mine owns one and is a great AK.

  • @hairydogstail

    @hairydogstail

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@henryrodgers7386 Funny how it takes time for people to see the advantages with certain firearms, when the heard mentality disapproves. I always looked at what worked the best for my needs, not what others thought I need. Thinking for your self is the American way.

  • @maxkronader5225
    @maxkronader52253 жыл бұрын

    A friend of mine bought one of the 5.56mm underfolders when they first hit the market. As I recall, he spent about $250-$300 for it. At that time an AR-15 was $500+ and an HK-91 was close to $1,000. It's no wonder they sold like hotcakes.

  • @hairydogstail

    @hairydogstail

    3 жыл бұрын

    They had problems with the 5.56 model, as the gas port was too small and caused malfunctions.

  • @quadrono5714

    @quadrono5714

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't think HK-91 prices got over $650-$750 till after the ban. I spent a lot of weekends of my freshman year of college (1986) in Ft. Bragg area gun stores pricing my dream guns. Cheapest price on a NIB AK I saw was $209 for a fixed stock 56S Norinco.

  • @hairydogstail

    @hairydogstail

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@quadrono5714 I purchased mine for $550 in 1981. I wish I still had that rifle today.

  • @pjkentucky

    @pjkentucky

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bought a polytechnic underfolder for $300 back in the day. I had a choice of the poly tech or norinco and bought the poly tech. It seemed like a better gun. Shame to say I sold the poly tech in the late 90s .

  • @hairydogstail

    @hairydogstail

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pjkentucky Too bad we didn't have a crystal ball back then, to see how much certain firearms value would rise.

  • @GunsNGames1
    @GunsNGames13 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, "Polytech" got me expecting a polymer AK.

  • @ACE-xi7xn

    @ACE-xi7xn

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same

  • @calihernandez3105

    @calihernandez3105

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ACE-xi7xn me too

  • @TheWorldEnd2

    @TheWorldEnd2

    3 жыл бұрын

    poly means "many". poly-technical is usually referred to when speaking of institutions of technology. i can see the connection

  • @TheWolfsnack

    @TheWolfsnack

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheWorldEnd2 ...so...having both an AK and an AR makes you polyamorous?

  • @ivankrylov6270

    @ivankrylov6270

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheWolfsnack yes

  • @alexdemoya2119
    @alexdemoya21193 жыл бұрын

    Polytech sounds like a fictional company. Something akin to OCP from robocop

  • @zidan1hao917

    @zidan1hao917

    3 жыл бұрын

    They are now doing real estate asides from guns and APCs, quite a company

  • @volvok7749

    @volvok7749

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's the name of one of France's best engineering schools, "Polytech(nique)"

  • @Taistelukalkkuna

    @Taistelukalkkuna

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zidan1hao917 "This beautiful estate comes with slightly used Shilka, and three AKS-74U´s. So? Do we sign a deal?"

  • @fire_tower

    @fire_tower

    3 жыл бұрын

    Make it Polytech Corp. and you've got something right out of Blade Runner.

  • @Seb-Storm

    @Seb-Storm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Lassi Kinnunen in Guatemala we have a school (military I think) called Politécnica, polytechnic in spanish

  • @khalilnouira3182
    @khalilnouira31823 жыл бұрын

    how many Aks are there for christ's sake ? they just dont stop, THEY DONT STTOOPPP !!

  • @hyperthalamus9278

    @hyperthalamus9278

    3 жыл бұрын

    Each time a second passes, the chinese make a new ak copy

  • @rigormortiz5357

    @rigormortiz5357

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hyperthalamus9278 Together we can stop this. Thank You.

  • @Hidalguense

    @Hidalguense

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lets keep buying, so they dont stop.

  • @STRAKAZulu

    @STRAKAZulu

    3 жыл бұрын

    @danio FED’s change the rules, so we take them all Semi.

  • @Based-wn9jg

    @Based-wn9jg

    3 жыл бұрын

    Around 100 million AKs have been made. Every 9th gun is an AK.

  • @BBossman1
    @BBossman13 жыл бұрын

    I bought a Legend double under folder in 1989 with 3 30rd mags and a 90rd drum for $325. A 1200rd case of steel "copper washed" 7.62 was $25... the glory days.

  • @Steve_I

    @Steve_I

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh wow, I thought getting 1000rd for $80 was a deal 20 years ago lol

  • @BriGuyIT

    @BriGuyIT

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'd give anything to have been old enough to purchase firearms in the 80s. Back when you could legally build a full-auto M16 for around $1,000.

  • @ScottKenny1978

    @ScottKenny1978

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BriGuyIT just remember that a V8 Mustang LX (a bit faster than the GT because it didn't have all the luxury parts adding weight) was $13k. So that $1000 then is more like $3500-4000 now.

  • @misha5670

    @misha5670

    3 жыл бұрын

    According to KFS, a milled Legend w/ folding spike bayonet was never imported and sold on the market. That said, I've seen a few Legends that people did install the spiker assembly on as a custom job, quite neat.

  • @jackgates6949

    @jackgates6949

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@misha5670 I did just that on a blonde wood Legend underfolder a few years back. Sometimes I regret it as it's no longer "original", but it turned out so perfectly that my hope is that if I have to sell it, it will still bring some money.

  • @jamesellsworth9673
    @jamesellsworth96733 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for telling the story of an iconic weapon. Now I have to check out the Valmet you referenced!

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard17093 жыл бұрын

    I worked for a distributor in the early '90s, and these were around $180. But nooo, I wasn't gonna buy a cheap Commie gun. Somebody kick me...

  • @tranwc

    @tranwc

    3 жыл бұрын

    There’s a few available in Massachusetts... for $3,000, because our attorney general banned AR/AK sporting rifles, except pre-1994. 😔

  • @tdugong

    @tdugong

    3 жыл бұрын

    As you wish. Please assume the position... *Swift kick to the rear*

  • @petesheppard1709

    @petesheppard1709

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tranwc I finally broke down and picked up a WASR; my late-blooming AK itch is scratched. :)

  • @petesheppard1709

    @petesheppard1709

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tdugong Thanks! I needed that...

  • @calihernandez3105

    @calihernandez3105

    3 жыл бұрын

    unforgivable Pete...

  • @hailtothe_rooster1572
    @hailtothe_rooster15723 жыл бұрын

    The double folder was my first true love in the AK world. The lines on a polytech legend spoke to me as well. Then the Romy G kits long before dongs became Instagram popular.

  • @VitoBb1978
    @VitoBb19783 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for a most informative production. I worked at a LGS back in the 80’s and I recall selling some of these. Should have bought one :(

  • @rfswitch4530
    @rfswitch45303 жыл бұрын

    Maybe already mentioned, but Steyr Maadis were used for the documentary Red Dawn as they were the only AKs available in large numbers in the US. Some were left semi-auto some were converted to full-auto in the US.

  • @MrJeepmarine

    @MrJeepmarine

    3 жыл бұрын

    Documentary!?

  • @rfswitch4530

    @rfswitch4530

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MrJeepmarine correct

  • @therideneverends1697

    @therideneverends1697

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rfswitch4530 is there a witty follow up or

  • @rfswitch4530

    @rfswitch4530

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@therideneverends1697 I've given up defending three things from naysayers; the moon landing, Elvis' death, and the 1984 Soviet invasion of North America. For the conspiracy theorists, no amount of evidence is sufficient.

  • @ahafeel
    @ahafeel2 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic attention to detail by Ian..

  • @Wolfskopf
    @Wolfskopf3 жыл бұрын

    Just in case, a reminder that the "S" in any AKS/AKMS/AKSU stands for "Skladnoy" which means "folding".

  • @motoote256

    @motoote256

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info!

  • @Alexwww21

    @Alexwww21

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have full stock Polytech Type 56, also says AKS. S here is for semi-auto

  • @misha5670

    @misha5670

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Alexwww21 Yes, stamped were 'AKS' and milled were 'AK47S' from China. Civilian and military naming conventions can and often are different, cheers.

  • @notgraham.7215

    @notgraham.7215

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have a fixed stock ak47/s made by polytech

  • @Ivankolesenko1809

    @Ivankolesenko1809

    3 жыл бұрын

    Да ладно?

  • @josephthomas8318
    @josephthomas83183 жыл бұрын

    Karl: wow Ian look, Saigas and SLR rifles are going for more then pre-ban Polytechs these days.. Ian: Hold my Lebel

  • @bobcostas6272
    @bobcostas62723 жыл бұрын

    I love my norinco rifle. Truly an underrated era.

  • @MrJeepmarine

    @MrJeepmarine

    3 жыл бұрын

    I held my uncle's underfolder when I was a teen and I loved it. I couldn't understand why I heard from so many people saying that they were Chinese junk. Guess I was right....

  • @bobcostas6272

    @bobcostas6272

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shad Rogers the 70-90 era of Chinese rifles were good!

  • @hashimzain9796
    @hashimzain97963 жыл бұрын

    Everything about this gun: "distinctly chinese"

  • @Treblaine

    @Treblaine

    3 жыл бұрын

    "If you look carefully you'll see Chinese writing... that ISN'T distinctly Chinese as the language is spoken in countries other than the PRC."

  • @scttewegner72
    @scttewegner723 жыл бұрын

    I continue to enjoy your videos for their informative side and just because firearms are amazing and fun devices.

  • @eurobeatbandit
    @eurobeatbandit3 жыл бұрын

    Oh cool, I finally know what Dugan ment about double underfolder.

  • @JA51711
    @JA517113 жыл бұрын

    Great history and always interesting to watch. Thank you

  • @TheWarmotor
    @TheWarmotor3 жыл бұрын

    Goddamnit Ian, you’re a national fucking treasure. How many people around the world start every day with a FW video? That’s gotta be satisfying!

  • @Brickington23
    @Brickington239 ай бұрын

    Just Inherited one of these this year and it’s an awesome gun! Very fun to shoot and super easy to maintain.

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis94493 жыл бұрын

    Thank you , Ian .

  • @rokuth
    @rokuth3 жыл бұрын

    Your hands always tell a story. There is a wound, scratch or some other healing mark on your hands when you handle the guns. Somehow, that gives a sense of involvement and trust.

  • @duceanahalf

    @duceanahalf

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Jerrol Hale I believe he has a cat(s?) also, and with cats also come injured hands

  • @rudiausbuddeln3652
    @rudiausbuddeln36523 жыл бұрын

    Almost everyday a video from Ian. You’re spoiling us !

  • @D3ATH222
    @D3ATH2223 жыл бұрын

    For service to education in the field of firearm history, I hereby call for the knighting of Ian McCollum. Even if it is from Sealand, Sir Ian has a nice ring to it.

  • @wikikomoto
    @wikikomoto3 жыл бұрын

    beautiful condition!! my absolute favourite firearm, from my homeland

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward78893 жыл бұрын

    For some reason I love the look of SKS and AK with under folding bayonets

  • @joelerk6298
    @joelerk62983 жыл бұрын

    I had a dream. The import ban was lifted We got chinese makarovs and Russian aks and Sks s oh but it's just a dream

  • @Seeker-wq8jc

    @Seeker-wq8jc

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean you can always get them if you know the right people. Money talks, and somebody will always be willing to sell if you can find them. Just can't tell the government about it.

  • @Mikhail-Tkachenko

    @Mikhail-Tkachenko

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Seeker-wq8jc Shouldn't you be in school at this hour?

  • @gerrymandarin6388

    @gerrymandarin6388

    3 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't buy any CCP-made firearm, from Tiananmen square to the genocide in Xinjiang of Uighurs, you don't want to fund that.

  • @redzeppelin6
    @redzeppelin63 жыл бұрын

    You could say this is a real unicorn of AKs... ...I'll see myself out.

  • @adamnewton8565
    @adamnewton85653 жыл бұрын

    He’s like the Bob Ross of guns

  • @lightningkitten

    @lightningkitten

    3 жыл бұрын

    he is known as Gun Jesus

  • @surfingtothestars

    @surfingtothestars

    3 жыл бұрын

    he's the Gun Jesus and Paul Harrel is the Bob Ross of Guns lol

  • @misha5670

    @misha5670

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@surfingtothestars Paul is the William Shatner.

  • @1911dawg

    @1911dawg

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thats larry potterfield

  • @jasonanderson2403
    @jasonanderson24033 жыл бұрын

    She's a beauty would love to have one, but they are hard to find now and very pricey.

  • @notgraham.7215

    @notgraham.7215

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've got a fixed stock milled variant (ak47/s) and it's gorgeous

  • @ThingsThatMakeYouWonder
    @ThingsThatMakeYouWonder3 жыл бұрын

    Very nice video describing the history of AK's that I really did not know ten minutes ago! Thank you so much for your time and dedication to guns, I think I've watched about a dozen or more of your videos already and will see about using patreon (never did that before so you will be first). One quick question, do you have a video on a Russian or Turkish gun that is a copy of the M16/AR 15 called an "Emkay?" There is a Russian pop song where this gun is mentioned and it is supposedly the slang word for this gun over there.

  • @shaunmurray8132
    @shaunmurray81323 жыл бұрын

    great looking gun, love the classic ak look

  • @callmeshirley8178
    @callmeshirley81783 жыл бұрын

    Just noticed Ian’s Malon Streak, I’ve got one too!

  • @tonydeaton2890
    @tonydeaton28903 жыл бұрын

    I bought a type 56-s Norinco in the '90's, brand new, for three hundred dollars. Now they're three thousand. Great rifle. Never a single failure of any kind.

  • @ChiefMiddleFinger
    @ChiefMiddleFinger3 жыл бұрын

    A few years back I had an opportunity to buy a mint Polytech Legend, but passed on it due to price. It was an excellent specimen on the variant.

  • @recoilrob324
    @recoilrob3243 жыл бұрын

    Back in the day I had 3 Polytech AK's and they were a cut above the Norinco's....despite both being made in the same factory. It seemed that it was like Ford and Lincoln where the same basic unit was built but one had a higher quality finish and this was the Polytech. Sold both AKM's but still have the Legend milled AK-47S and I believe it's the finest AK ever offered in the US. Smooth and tight...very nice little rifle. Sadly they've gotten very pricey so it was only tested for two mags then put away but is still taken out of the safe and fondled now and then.

  • @shantyburton6854

    @shantyburton6854

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is finger banging an AK illegal in some states?

  • @lindafoxwood78
    @lindafoxwood783 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for another great video. "... and I thought I knew a lot about AK's ..." You sir proved me more needing and educated.

  • @timbaskett6299
    @timbaskett62993 жыл бұрын

    My first centerfire rifle was a Norinco SKS, but I always "drooled over" and wanted a Polytech AK, and MAK-90. There was just something about a foreign (or opposition) combat rifle that made me want one.

  • @toastedolive6764
    @toastedolive67643 жыл бұрын

    I still haven figured out whether that the RIA logo is edited on there or if it’s on the curtain

  • @bones1x285
    @bones1x2853 жыл бұрын

    Little correction here, the current safety notch is indeed the full auto position. One more notch down is semi auto. The safety selector is cut so it will not engage the beaver tail on disconnector, and the disconnector is a semi auto one.

  • @navywolf1753
    @navywolf17533 жыл бұрын

    I managed to get one of the second importer versions of the Maadi ARM, imported by A.C.C. INT/INTRAC, and supposedly they're made on old Tula machinery. Interestingly enough, most of the Maadi's I have seen are just painted black instead of blued. Apparently the early Steyr versions came shipped with Full Auto bolt carriers as well as 3rd pin holes.

  • @therideneverends1697

    @therideneverends1697

    3 жыл бұрын

    The russian spec for the AKM was to paint the gun black over parkerizeing infact thats still how they do their current guns

  • @Ironhandjohn
    @Ironhandjohn3 жыл бұрын

    I used to have a full-stock Poly that had probably 30-40K rounds through it. The spike bayonet looks cool but gets very hot under your hand when shooting fast.

  • @borokid19
    @borokid193 жыл бұрын

    Have to wonder if that manufacturer's marking was meant to mimic the Ishevsk triangle. After all, if it looks vaguely Russian it *must* be a good AK.

  • @ScottKenny1978

    @ScottKenny1978

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't surprise me, honestly.

  • @DeltaEchoGolf

    @DeltaEchoGolf

    3 жыл бұрын

    Leave it to the Chinese to reverse-engineer a stamp!

  • @colapepsi132
    @colapepsi1323 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video as always. Ak is simply such a timeless design. I hope the Chinese army adopts the QBZ-03 over the 95. The Chinese are actually very good at manufacturing, they are also very good in cutting corners, it's just you get what you want to pay. Iphones are also made there. I've shot the type 81 and type 56 and they are every bit as well made as Izmash productions and East German Aks

  • @andrewsuryali8540

    @andrewsuryali8540

    3 жыл бұрын

    QBZ-03 is dead. The new PLA standard rifle (sometimes called QBZ-19) came out last year. Look it up.

  • @chevyvet69
    @chevyvet693 жыл бұрын

    These are by far some of the best AKM You can find

  • @OriginalBongoliath

    @OriginalBongoliath

    3 жыл бұрын

    They aren't AKM's. Completely different type of AK like Serbian Zastavas. Just because an AK is stamped does not make it an AKM.

  • @austintapia5704
    @austintapia57043 жыл бұрын

    I have a unfired neutered Norinco spiker Bwest import. It would be awesome to see a video made about that rifle.

  • @seannoyes2174
    @seannoyes21743 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Literally just bought one Monday and here is this!

  • @ScottKenny1978

    @ScottKenny1978

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oooh, lucky!

  • @RussellRanch
    @RussellRanch3 жыл бұрын

    Mine was marked AKS 223 not 556 Had feeding problems and the trigger had a kick back that that would leave your finger numb after two mags. But that bayonet was fun.

  • @ja0298
    @ja02983 жыл бұрын

    I’m reminded now that I still have a MAK90 that I have yet to de-ban. I have the under folding bayonet, but I have yet to get a stock set to replace the thumb hole one.

  • @brotherskeepers111
    @brotherskeepers1113 жыл бұрын

    I own a Norinco type 56 s-2 sidefolder. Bought it in the 80's, wish I had bought a crate of them

  • @onehappyphi4756
    @onehappyphi47562 жыл бұрын

    Its nice to finally watch one of these videos and be like "i have one of those"

  • @shawnoandrew
    @shawnoandrew3 жыл бұрын

    I love my early MAK90 import that I refanged with spike.

  • @hyattbusbey3563
    @hyattbusbey35633 жыл бұрын

    I really like that stylized 416

  • @tenchraven
    @tenchraven3 жыл бұрын

    This was the first AK I fired. I wish I could get one, complete with the screwdriver stabby bit, in the proper cartridge.

  • @thomaskimmel7365
    @thomaskimmel73653 жыл бұрын

    I have a Poly AKS and I love that gun!

  • @THatChevyguy91
    @THatChevyguy913 жыл бұрын

    I have a norinco chambered in 5.56 and its extremely hard to come across magazines for them .

  • @Brian-ot5xp
    @Brian-ot5xp3 жыл бұрын

    Ian should do more with ak’s with brandon herarra doesnt know the full auto position

  • @mikeblair2594
    @mikeblair25943 жыл бұрын

    Hey Ian, I just watched your dad as an expert in a short documentary "the Japanese guns of ww2". You two look exactly alike but for his red hair. I always wanted to make him a flintlock rifle and pistol set, just couldn't afford it.

  • @rusty815
    @rusty8153 жыл бұрын

    A minor correction: there was a third distributor in the 90s, K.D.I. Imported then just prior to the ‘94 ban I think, I have one of their rifles

  • @kirkitiscool
    @kirkitiscool3 жыл бұрын

    I have the fixed stock version of that rifle it feels really well built for an ak

  • @cbrftwo
    @cbrftwo3 жыл бұрын

    If you were my history teacher I would have enjoyed it much more.

  • @kibicz
    @kibicz3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, Ian, when you do the machinegun u use for Forgotten Weapons photo? (TK vz.37/ ZB 53 /BESA)?

  • @bebop_557
    @bebop_5573 жыл бұрын

    A nice, full bodied AK. One could say... When I hold it in my hands I get feels I just don't understand.

  • @ironlegacyllc8673
    @ironlegacyllc86733 жыл бұрын

    What can you guys tell me about the polytech aks 223 (85w 556)"rpk" type made in 416? I scored one not long ago, but havent been able to find much info on them at all... all i can say is i went through hell to find an original mag for it. Thanx in advance!

  • @robpotatoes6514
    @robpotatoes65143 жыл бұрын

    My uncle bought one of the Egyptian Aks in 1980

  • @si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906
    @si_vis_pacempara_bellum49063 жыл бұрын

    Is there gonna be a Maadi AK video? Like the differences between a Maadi and a proper AKM, It’d be cool

  • @bluekouki86
    @bluekouki863 жыл бұрын

    Double DOUBLE underfolder 😍

  • @Yupppi
    @Yupppi3 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from Finland! Every time I see AK, I think of Valmet so thanks for mentioning it and making me smile :) this one looks beautiful. What's the argument against bayonettes? What makes a short "knife" make a rifle more dangerous? Is it a sign of combat purpose that is a problematic?

  • @whodywei

    @whodywei

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's just one of the cosmetic features used to define "assault weapons".

  • @Gunman1628
    @Gunman16283 жыл бұрын

    bought a full stock ak in 1983 as my first gun. they were expensive at $225 for a poor college student. ammo was cheaper than garbage though. shot it and did not know about corrosive ammo. took it out one day to get ready to go to the range and it was rusted. since the bolt carrier was in the white, it rusted also. sold it a few years later good times back then

  • @chevyvet69
    @chevyvet693 жыл бұрын

    I have one of these I've had it for a long time there are like the unicorn of the AKM world

  • @highpower3006
    @highpower30063 жыл бұрын

    I have a few pre and post ban Chinese AK's. One of my pre bans is a fixed stock Polytech just a few serial numbers off from the one in the video and the the other is an AKS47-1, which is an underfolder that takes a regular Chinese style detachable AKM bayonet. There is no manufacturer code on it or date it was made. It isn't marked as being sold through Norinco or Polytech. All it has is the importer info crudely stamped forward of the magwell. I assume it was sold through Norinco, but no one has ever verified that.

  • @NoBody500xL
    @NoBody500xL3 жыл бұрын

    I hope one day Ian can get his hands on an AEK-971

  • @charles_wipman
    @charles_wipman3 жыл бұрын

    Looks really good to me; but one thing that i never liked of the AKs it's the rear sight placement, i like the rear sight to be further back.

  • @Scybren
    @Scybren3 жыл бұрын

    PTK Int'll from Atlanta GA has an interesting history.

  • @KevinHallSurfing
    @KevinHallSurfing3 жыл бұрын

    In Australia Norinco (North China Industries) imported an AK Type 56 Semi-auto for civilian marketbut a few AK Type 56-1 select fire slipped through. Of course the registered dealers grabbed them up. Not to be confused with the military Type 56 series.

  • @Poxyquotl
    @Poxyquotl3 жыл бұрын

    Always wanted one.

  • @pops55650
    @pops556503 жыл бұрын

    Well I still have 3 MAK-90s with their distinctly Chinese thumbhole stocks and a Chinese SKS . All of them are pretty great guns. Should have bought the Polytechs when I had the chance.

  • @XER239
    @XER2392 жыл бұрын

    Which bolt parts are interchangeable between 56S and akm etc?

  • @halfbakedchannel6065
    @halfbakedchannel60653 жыл бұрын

    those chinese SKS-style bayonets for AKs are so cool. i wish i knew where to even find one. they're non-existent online it seems

  • @daktari
    @daktari3 жыл бұрын

    Working with a company buying a lot of parts from the Chinese, the quality of their products isn't bad, they just have next to no quality control, and kind of expect the companies buying from them to do all of the QC. They're just making stuff, it's your job to test it before putting it up for sale. And they build for cheap enough to make that a very good deal for western markets.

  • @rupertblanche2254
    @rupertblanche22543 жыл бұрын

    Ian, I am still hoping that maybe someday you will be able to have a chance to get to see the original or prototype AK made by Kalashnikov preferably the one tested by the Russian inspectors. It would be the pianncle of your work.

  • @stealywheelyautomobiley7565
    @stealywheelyautomobiley75653 жыл бұрын

    the bayonet position seems to lend itself to being dangerously close to slicing your hand, unless only the tip is sharpened

  • @aaronkong8393

    @aaronkong8393

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s literally shaped like a tent peg

  • @eriksiddons4730
    @eriksiddons47303 жыл бұрын

    Is there a video on the legends series yet? If not any plans?

  • @briangray5921
    @briangray59213 жыл бұрын

    Double folder. Holy Grail of AK's

  • @jimjungle1397
    @jimjungle13973 жыл бұрын

    Early prototype Soviet AKM's in the early 1950's had a similar rivet pattern, but that changed in the mid-1950's to the later pattern that was used in production AKM's.

  • @Ingsoc75
    @Ingsoc753 жыл бұрын

    There were a handfull of Chinese AK rifles (don’t know if it was Norinco or Polytech) that had the third hole plugged by a tube. I think the ATF tracked most of them down and required them to be destroyed because of the “once a machine gun, always a machine gun” ATF ruling.

  • @alangilman6711
    @alangilman67113 жыл бұрын

    the stamped Polytheh also have thicker receivers than the others,.... .090 thousands vs .060 on the Maddi and others

  • @ScottKenny1978

    @ScottKenny1978

    3 жыл бұрын

    You sure about that metal thickness? That's even thicker than an RPK receiver. Bog standard AK is 1mm/0.040", RPK is 1.5mm/0.060".

  • @jardinero9112
    @jardinero9112 Жыл бұрын

    Awsome review, can someone tell me the difference between the polytech legend and the type 56s?

  • @dadad173
    @dadad1733 жыл бұрын

    I actually just inherited a polytech AK in its box from my grandpa. Its a very interesting gun internally

  • @mikepoteet
    @mikepoteet3 жыл бұрын

    Ian, Please let me know where Clayco fits into this. Thank you

  • @OriginalBongoliath

    @OriginalBongoliath

    3 жыл бұрын

    They were the first Chinese AK to be imported into the country.

  • @RebelFNOS
    @RebelFNOS3 жыл бұрын

    Ian talking about the polytech aks: they also made a milled version called the legend series but we won't get into that this video. Me: HOLD UP WHATS THIS ABOUT A LEGEND SERIES!!!

  • @justineallandevelos6491

    @justineallandevelos6491

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me: okay you got my full interest now good sir tell me more!

  • @thetoneknob4493
    @thetoneknob44933 жыл бұрын

    dude ide love to have one of these! its a bit cooler than the ar15 if i was looking for a semi auto ide be tempted to find one someday maby wander up Canada way and barter me one?.lol or a norinco m1a!