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@brokenbridge6316

4 жыл бұрын

I've been watching a lot of your video's and although I still have plenty more to watch. I have a question: Why did you never talk about the American Flying Ace of the Great War Eddie Richenbacker. You talked about a lot of other Flying Aces except this guy. Could you please make a video on him. I feel very strongly that he deserves this on your channel.

@ameliaalvarez1079

4 жыл бұрын

I think you missed an episode, it was years ago. Try to catch up

@ameliaalvarez1079

4 жыл бұрын

Although he deserves a special bio episode, i agree

@brokenbridge6316

4 жыл бұрын

@@ameliaalvarez1079---It's possible I might have missed that episode. I've seen a lot of this channel's video's and a lot that I haven't. Could you please tell me which episode Richenbacker is on so I can see it.

@brokenbridge6316

4 жыл бұрын

@@ameliaalvarez1079---If their really isn't an episode on Richenbacker then this channel should make one. Because I would love to see what this channel has to say about the guy.

The channel hasn't missed a beat since going to the quarantine bunker - thank you and hope everyone is doing fine.

@maxmuller8633

4 жыл бұрын

This is like if Indy passed out and his son took over his channel

@raymondkisner9240

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly ! Indy other series are doing great too!

@viliussmproductions

4 жыл бұрын

There's quite a bit of echo, sadly. Perhaps recording in a different environment for the sections showing map graphics or historical footage?

@ericvantassell6809

4 жыл бұрын

@@viliussmproductions have some cheeze with that whine

@viliussmproductions

4 жыл бұрын

@@ericvantassell6809 "Hey, bro, you've got something on your shirt there" "Woah, are you calling him ugly? Wtf, whiner!"

one of the american pilots on Polish side was Merian Cooper, creator of King Kong.

@Wladyslaw_Raginis

4 жыл бұрын

Woooow, nice!

@marcinterlecki6021

4 жыл бұрын

And a father of Maciej Słomczyński aka Joe Alex ...

@BmorePatriot

10 ай бұрын

Didn’t know that. Nice that the King Kong creator was an Polish - Russian war veteran. Thanks for that cool fact.

Dispute over Vilnius, conflicts with the Germans and Czechoslovakia, wars against Ukrainians and Soviets - there was a joke in 1918/1919: Q: What is the largest country in the world? A: Poland. It has no borders.

@NeveroOn

4 жыл бұрын

Great :) Sadly for europe, that kind of nationalism lead to tentions and war in europe in the between time of the ww-s.

@DotepenecPL

4 жыл бұрын

@@NeveroOn That was more sarcasm than nationalism, nationalistic one goes: "Poland white and red, from the White Sea to the Red Sea". :P PS Or: Q: With whom does Russia have a border? A: With whomever Russia wants. Q: And with whom does it want? A: With nobody.

@stargazer4683

4 жыл бұрын

lmao

@marcinmalczewski310

4 жыл бұрын

Thats what happend when you regain your place on the map after 123 years of participations. Its very similiar towards Isrel regain its terytory. They start with enemy fires from all sides.

@OrkosUA

4 жыл бұрын

@@marcinmalczewski310 I do not recall Israel taking Egypt for long

I’m developing a Call of Cthulhu character who’s background includes service in the Polish Army during the Polish-Soviet War. So this episode was very useful to me.

@christopherjustice6411

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua N. Ajang Actually Call of Cthulhu is the name of a tabletop role playing game based off of Lovecraft’s work. Though it’s often easily confused with “The Call of Cthulhu” which is one of Lovecraft’s short stories.

@schutzemiguel

4 жыл бұрын

whose is the correct form :)

Damn it is going to take a miracle to save the Poles.

@noobster4779

4 жыл бұрын

Well, this time it is truly their onw fault.

@brendo1143

4 жыл бұрын

Noobster I think you didn’t get a joke

@robertsantuzs7119

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely. I sure hope it also takes place near a river.

@Angmir

4 жыл бұрын

@@brendo1143 Plus he seems clueless of the actual outcome of the war.

@manfredvonrichthofen2673

4 жыл бұрын

Noobster I am sure there is no way the Russians army could be effectively destroyed at the Vistula.

I was today years old when I learned there was a Polish-American volunteer air division in the Polish-Soviet War.

@gregski4130

4 жыл бұрын

I still can't figure out why Hollywood didn't make move about these guys. You have everything here. War, adventure, love, tragedy, exotic places and it is unknown to the world so completely unexplored subject.

@tomskonieczka2385

4 жыл бұрын

@@gregski4130 eastern Europe just does not seem to appeal to American audiences. when you mention Poland to most people in the US they think of eternal winters and potatoes.

@kstreet7438

4 жыл бұрын

@@tomskonieczka2385 not nit picking but isn't Poland central Europe?

@WhiteCamry

4 жыл бұрын

@@kstreet7438 That depends on how you look at it.

@kstreet7438

4 жыл бұрын

@@WhiteCamry seems like before cold war it was central but during and after it seen as eastern now

I love that you guys are covering this and the aftermath of WW1. Here in the US, our history classes generally don't cover anything in Europe between December 1918 and August 1939.

@diarradunlap9337

4 жыл бұрын

Also tends to skip anything in Asia from 1898 to 1941.

@janwojtyna3392

Жыл бұрын

Unless you take AP history y'all don't even teach US history right way...

The Polish-Soviet war is always fun to learn about for me because some of my ancestors were Bolsheviks and some were Polish.

@OtherM112594

4 жыл бұрын

Must’ve been some awkward family reunions

@lucidnonsense942

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I hear you... My grandfather got sent to Auschwitz for serving in the Polish resistance (survived), his brother (my great uncle) was in the French Foreign Legion, the wrong part that was controlled by Vichy France... whoops... That's before we even start on the Bavarian branch of the family. It was a mess.

@biohyde6039

4 жыл бұрын

@@OtherM112594 Why Is that? Bolsheviks were not nationalists, they upheld the rights of working people regarding of nationality, while our current governments can't even enforce a livable minimum wage.

@fuhq5121

4 жыл бұрын

@@biohyde6039 socialism hasn't taught you anything has it.

@biohyde6039

4 жыл бұрын

@@fuhq5121 I have no idea how you came to such a stupid conclusion.

I particularly like the memoirs. My grandfather fought in these battles. My mother was separated from him as a child when the Soviets occupied eastern Poland. She was sent to one gulag, her father and family to another, never to meet again. She only had vague recollections of family stories. As an adult I realized my grandfather was badly damaged psychologically from from his war experiences, both WWI and the Polish-Soviet war. The memoirs shed light on what he likely lived through. PTSD has generational consequences.

@pablojn4826

Жыл бұрын

Source? Name? City of birth? Certificates? Nothing?

Norman Davies is more of a specialist when it comes to Poland and eastern Europe, but when it comes to Europe as a whole, he tends to write more for general audiences. His book "Europe: A History" is enormous yet very accessible. I cannot recommend it enough. I've bought the book four times (three times used) because I've given it away to friends three times. I also bought it recently on Audible a week or so ago but haven't started it yet, it's next in the queue. His book "The Isles: A History" about the British Isles is similarly huge and yet accessible.

@yarpen26

4 жыл бұрын

Davies is a bit too biased in favor of Poland though. Something many foreigners that get infatuated with a particular country tend to do.

@delusionnnnn

4 жыл бұрын

@@yarpen26 Many of his more narrowly-focused books are about Poland, or northeastern Europe. I would have to say that "Europe: A History" does not suffer from this, however. I really enjoyed it.

@bartomiejszumski4185

4 жыл бұрын

He wrote entire book about this war,it's "White eagle, Red star".

The situation in the region considering all aspects was very complicated. When we look at the ethnic situation in Galicia for example we'll see that Western Galicia was ethnically Polish, Eastern was mixed. According to polish census from 1921 in Lwów Voivodeship, 1 537 986 (56,58%) citizens declared to be Polish and 975 268 (35,88%) to be Ukrainian, in Tarnopol Voivodeship 642 546 (44,98%) declared to be Polish and 714 031 (49,98%) to be Ukrainian. Only province of east Galicia with clear Ukrainian majority was the Stanisławów Voivodeship where Polish population was at the level of 20% with 299 033 inhabitants claiming to be Polish and 941 335 (69,8%) to be Ukrainian. If you add all those number up, you will get 2 479 565 Poles and 2 630 634 Ukrainians. It would be very hard to draw borders based on ethnicity

@thezeitos469

3 жыл бұрын

That is nothing unusual. In border regions ethnicities often mix to varying degrees, especially when historicly borders of nations shift.

@pacthug4life

3 жыл бұрын

@Semper Fidelis It's true. Austrians used divide and rule in Galicia, sometimes giving power to Ukrainians, sometimes to Poles to create animosity

@paratatruc

Жыл бұрын

I had liked to see the source for these numbers. Poles were around 20% of the population in eastern Galicia. And I think you may have forgotten in your calculation a third ethnicity in eastern Galicia, although it represented in this period a sixth of the population...

@pacthug4life

Жыл бұрын

@@paratatruc Is reading with understanding really that difficult?

@paratatruc

Жыл бұрын

@@pacthug4life Yeah what did I misread? And what are your sources?

Poland withdraws from Kiev Kiev: "Ah shit, here we go again."

This is one of the coolest channels on KZread.

@jessealexander2695

4 жыл бұрын

Fact! ;)

I find it amusing that the Leage of Nations in 1919 were calling the happenings in current day Belarus as Central Europe, whereas today people seem to call even the western/central Poland as "Eastern Europe"

@P9124

4 жыл бұрын

East\West divide is result of political simplification not geography. Most people are simply very slow to catch on.

@kalabancjusz

4 жыл бұрын

@@P9124 yes, almost 30 after the fall of Warsaw Pact many people still view this region eastern block - c'mon it existed only 45 years while some its nations for over millenium

@specialnewb9821

4 жыл бұрын

@@kalabancjusz Even in Germany there is a noticeable economic divide between west and east today. Yes the Warsaw Pact/Soviet Bloc whatever lasted a relatively short time, but the effects persist. Until that fades more that viewpoint is going to persist. I'm sure as more people who grew up thinking of Poland as a Soviet Satellite pass on it will fade too.

@blase777

4 жыл бұрын

It's kinda amusing to see some people considering modern Poland as a part of Eastern Europe, while at the same time they think that Germany is in the Western Europe (although 1/3 of Poland's postwar territory belonged to the Germans, so... the East/West distinction applies only to certain countries/nations?)

@ArkadiBolschek

4 жыл бұрын

Most people still think of the East/West divide in Cold War terms, even though most of the countries in the former Soviet bloc are now members of the EU. I wonder whether that's a permanent cultural shift or future political developments will make it change...

Absolutely awesome. I applaud your knowledge and the way you share it with all of us. It is very, well, emotional. Thanx!

All "The Great War" episodes are wonderfully done, and much appreciated!

Great job, Jesse and Flo. Liked and shared.

This was an excellent lecture. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

Also it would be interesting to hear some more on this famous Lord Curzon, all knowing geographer of nations worldwide with no hesitation to decifer borders from Indian Ocean to Baltic, uninvited and elected by nobody to draw lines on maps shaping nations, frontlines and local antagonism till present day.

@Valdagast

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair, there was no way to draw lines on maps that wouldn't have created lasting antagonism and war. Trying to force through ethnic independency in Central and Eastern Europe is an exercise in futility.

@OchotaJack

4 жыл бұрын

@@Valdagast I completely agree with You. One may even say that humanity worldwide was completely unprapared to somewhat suprising gifts of enlighted modernity called nations, national borders and idenities . It is pnly nowadays assumed to be obvious and ever present. For millenia backward driven individuals and whole comunities in very unresponsible way settled around the world with no respect to the 'inevitable laws of progress in history' brought by all courzons big and small. ;) sorry for sarcasm;) I dont argue with You that task was impossible to accomplish. At least in any way concerning very basic rights of individuals. I dont even consider Curzon to do particularry bad in comparison to future executors of this bright ideas under svastika and red star. However I would feel very inopportunate if I were to go tell e.g. Tutsi and Hutu, or Sunni and Shias if I had this magic pencil to shape heir communities while sitting comfortably by the desk in some mansion on the other side of the world. Even if I were extremely well informed and educated about this peoples social, economic, historic and all other contexts. basically I have no respect for such approaches. Look at the Berlin conference not very long before described events. Look at those fat thugs drawing straight lines across Africa and all the consequences..

@silverdeathgamer2907

4 жыл бұрын

@poewhite Globalism and an authoritarian regime are not the only options, being influenced and controlled by powerful economies is probably better than being subjugated by an oppressive state.

@zoperxplex

4 жыл бұрын

Lord Curzon simply applied the Prussian and Austrian borders with Russia following the Third Partition of Poland.

@silverdeathgamer2907

4 жыл бұрын

@poewhite Yes that is true however nationality and the nation is deeply ingrained in many places today and would be difficult to displace, that will limit integration at a point and may be enough to prevent borderless states. There will always be a decent chunk of a nation's population resistant to change. Also populism seems to be on the rise around the world and coronavirus has weakened fate in current supply chains so we will see if things continue as they had previously.

I've been a fan of The Great War since October 23rd 2077.

@indianajones4321

4 жыл бұрын

Bruh same!

@walidhousni3186

4 жыл бұрын

Ah yes me too I remember that at this time they already finish the 1973 Arab Israeli war, day by day 100 years ago And they were preparing for a new season about the Soviet Afghan war

@janwacawik7432

4 жыл бұрын

I presume the one thing your learnt here is that war... war never changes.

@brianoneil9662

4 жыл бұрын

Do you know James Cole?

@victorbruant389

4 жыл бұрын

@@brianoneil9662 No, why?

Thank you for the videos guys, I supported the Berlin special and have ear marked a day to watch the whole thing. Love the channel, thank you guys.

Major props for pronunciation of some of the hardest words to speak in any language. Excellent series with deep insight and unknown (or unwanted) history

This was a very interesting video. Always nice to know about little known events in world history and this war sure is one of them.

I can see you're posing to be objective, but you're forgetting to give a full picture why Adam Mickiewicz was saying that Luthuania is his motherland, but still considered himself to be Polish. It's enough to look at the map of europe from XIV-XVIII century and everything will be clear. Despite of such obvius thing you simply "forget" to mention that fact.

I hope in 2120 somebody creates holographic history of the 2020's this detailed.

@Septimus_ii

4 жыл бұрын

'The 2019 Coronovirus' would make quite an interesting documentary with enough hindsight

@ingolfleiblle6661

3 жыл бұрын

Just wait 100 years. They might to get sense about it, but don`t hold your breath until then.

I’ve been looking forward to this!

This is presumably the most professional and impressive history documentary ever posted on KZread. Congratulations to the whole team at RTH. Luminous achievement!

Another stellar presentation. Kudos!

Litwo, Ojczyzno moja! ty jesteś jak zdrowie; Ile cię trzeba cenić, ten tylko się dowie, Kto cię stracił. Dziś piękność twą w całej ozdobie Widzę i opisuję, bo tęsknię po tobie. Panno święta, co Jasnej bronisz Częstochowy I w Ostrej świecisz Bramie! Ty, co gród zamkowy Nowogródzki ochraniasz z jego wiernym ludem! Jak mnie dziecko do zdrowia powróciłaś cudem Gdy od płaczącej matki, pod Twoją opiekę Ofiarowany martwą podniosłem powiekę; I zaraz mogłem pieszo, do Twych świątyń progu Iść za wrócone życie podziękować Bogu Tak nas powrócisz cudem na Ojczyzny łono!... Tymczasem, przenoś moją duszę utęsknioną Do tych pagórków leśnych, do tych łąk zielonych, Szeroko nad błękitnym Niemnem rozciągnionych , Do tych pól malowanych zbożem rozmaitem, Wyzłacanych pszenicą, posrebrzanych żytem; Gdzie bursztynowy świerzop, gryka jak śnieg biała, Gdzie panieńskim rumieńcem dzięcielina pała, A wszystko przepasane jakby wstęgą, miedzą Zieloną, na niej zrzadka ciche grusze siedzą.

@albinkohls888

4 жыл бұрын

Dziekuje.

@rinyc9100

3 жыл бұрын

I can kinda read it as a Russian

Thank you Poland for 1920! Dziekuje Polska dla 1920! Greetings from Canada.

@yakovfillin1931

2 жыл бұрын

There 's nothing to greet them about.

@mikemancuso2526

2 жыл бұрын

@for business GUILAG!?!? What's that??

@CC-8891

2 жыл бұрын

@@yakovfillin1931 go back to Russia loser.

@niepowaznyczlowiek

2 жыл бұрын

@@yakovfillin1931 Oh there is, it saved Europe from a lot of bad

@maximkretsch7134

10 ай бұрын

​@@niepowaznyczlowiekNo, it just saved itself, after having started a war against Soviet Russia.

Oh boy, can't wait for the best part!

I love Poland so much, it's culture, it's history and its people. I do hope that once this pandemic has abated , to go visit the spectacularly beautiful country again. From an admiring South African.

@JurateRimkute

Жыл бұрын

The thing I don’t like about Poland is their xenophobia, homophobia and abortion prohibition.

Very happy to see you guys cover this subject!

This should've been a dlc for bf1 instead of bfv.

@SAGENT50

4 жыл бұрын

I mean, they did “in the name of the tsar”, I’ve much better have a Far East operation based on the Japanese invasion of Tsingtao or an expansion in the German African colonies. More variety

@kamilszadkowski8864

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was literally commenting the same back when we still were getting more DLCs for bf1

@jakehammond7491

4 жыл бұрын

@@kamilszadkowski8864 hmm maybe a libyian front? I'm surprised we didn't see Serbia or Romania tbh

On the subject of Poland's search for allies its worth adding: Станіслаў Булак-Балаховіч (Stanisłaŭ Bułak-Bałachovič did create a Belarussian army in alliance with Poland but it was even weaker than that of Petluras Ukrainians (at its peak it consisted of 1 cavalry and 4 infantry regiments). Latvia, though grateful for Polish help in pushing the Bolsheviks out of Latvia in the winter of 1920 (the operation, notabene, was commanded by the same Rydz-Śmigły who later commanded the Kiev offensive) were uninterested in further conflict and signed a separate peace treaty. Attempts at reaching an agreement with Denekin's White Russian's almost immediately collapsed due to the later's hostility to any prospect of change to Russia's 1914 borders, though he was begrudgingly willing to accept a Polish-Russian border on the Bug river it was too little, too late. Notabene this is also the reason why essentially nobody in the region was willing to help the White Russians, it's hard to expect allies if your starting point in negotiations is "We do not accept your nations independence".

@yarpen26

4 жыл бұрын

I guess Denikin simply felt bound by a 19th century officer's honor not to lie to his allies about his intentions. Stalin or Churchill would have simply said "sure guys, no prob, I promise you're gonna get anything you want" and then simply defaulted on this citing some lame excuse. Some among the Tzarist officers during and after the war would shoot themselves upon being defeated not for fear of punishment or capture but simply because they felt they had failed their ruler.

@jessealexander2695

4 жыл бұрын

Poor Bu-Ba got cut from this episode, it was getting too long...

@LitD

4 жыл бұрын

@@jessealexander2695 Is there a chance of him appearing in a future episode?

@jessealexander2695

4 жыл бұрын

@@LitD Yes, there is a chance.

@alexlehrersh9951

11 ай бұрын

Nope it because most od those western independence fighters were leftist so they wanted to habe an red russia.

I have waited for this for a long time

Funny, Jessie looks 10 years younger with the new cam lol. Thanks again everyone, love the content you produce.

What is the source of the claim of Pilsudski's antisemitism (6:20)? Curious because general sentiment towards him in that matter is quite the opposite

@martinledermann1862

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! As a Jew I can confirm that this allegation is very odd indeed... Please check out my other comment for the sources I cite which go against that baseless allegation. I hope Jesse will be able to see it. It's too bad when contra-factual claims are smuggled in an otherwise well-researched video.

@tomskonieczka2385

3 жыл бұрын

@@martinledermann1862 PIlsudski was extremely tolerant of minorities and religious groups.

@martinledermann1862

3 жыл бұрын

@@tomskonieczka2385 I know, that's what I was saying - the claim made in this video is incorrect.

@tomskonieczka2385

3 жыл бұрын

@@martinledermann1862 this channel has made repeated anti-polish comments. They insist on spreading anti-polish propaganda.

@peterc.1419

3 жыл бұрын

This channel is not historically accurate. They should be reported to KZread Trust and Safety for spreading hate towards minorities - Poles.

Great video as usual. This might be a big ask, but do you think it could be possible for you guys to take the weekly episodes from 1914-1918 and condense them into monthly videos? I love watching the channel and learning about WW1 but there’s so many videos

You totally misunderstand words of Adam Mickiewicz. When he wrote "Lithuania, my Home!" He was referring to north eastern part of Commonwealth not Lithuania as a country. Commonwealth consisted of three main regions before 1792 - Crown, Lithuania and Ukraine.

@grigol101

3 жыл бұрын

Don't be silly. There was no Ukraine. The Commonwealth was divided into Greater Poland, Lesser Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Some more territories were under the protectorate of the Commonwealth. The captured Russian lands in Lesser Poland and the Grand Duchy of Lithuania were called Rus, but not Ukraine.

@oblakaniec

Жыл бұрын

He just translated "Litwo, Ojczyzno moja" to the audience and rightly pointed out that the identities could be very different back then, and the words like "Lithuania/Litwa" could have a completely different meaning. A person like Mickiewicz (even if not Mickiewicz himself) could be Polish by culture, mostly Belarusian by blood and call himself Lithuanian.

@mareksicinski3726

Жыл бұрын

@@grigol101 Greater Poland and lesser poland are two regions of poland, not all Ukraine was part of GDL but got moved to Poland as an extension of lesser Poland partly There was mazovia, Prussia, part of Pomerania

@mareksicinski3726

Жыл бұрын

@Semper Fidelis he had a slightly different idea of Poland too tho

@mareksicinski3726

Жыл бұрын

Yea this is a pretty unstudied misreading

If there was another movie made about Battle of Warsaw it would be called: The Day the Sun Stood Still

@ThomasTHEONEANDONLY

4 жыл бұрын

Jacob Borders, How about ‘The Day Lenin Cried’

@jacobborders1359

4 жыл бұрын

That’s a great one

@indianajones4321

4 жыл бұрын

@Jacob Borders when Stalin didn’t follow orders and the Soviets went home

@jacobborders1359

4 жыл бұрын

Stalin was crazy anyways

@indianajones4321

4 жыл бұрын

@Jacob Borders the NKVD disagrees...

Thanks for the great informative video. Inspires me to research more into this time period

10:31 Whoah. That mustache ain't playin. 😯

@ArkadiBolschek

4 жыл бұрын

The Polish forces had, on the whole, clearly superior mustaches. I'm surprised that the video fails to mention it.

Great documentary guys. You just got yourself a new fan (that would be me)

In defense of Poland, I must to say that Vilno, the capital of Lithuania by the time, was majority Polish. That is one example as to why Poland did not want a curzon line as its border.

@OrkosUA

4 жыл бұрын

It was still a lithuanian city by the same way Germans later would demand Danzig. Why would their claim would be denied by you then?

@filipkopec525

4 жыл бұрын

@@OrkosUA I do not understand you. Maybe try simplifying your sentence.

@filipkopec525

4 жыл бұрын

@zero signal You may be a pole, but not a historian. Poland was not fighting for Danzig. Poland did not have Danzig. Poland gained so called Polish Cirridor in the treaty of versalies, without the fight. If you are a pole, why are you writing Lwów so weird.

@HerrRelke

4 жыл бұрын

@@OrkosUA Lithuanians population in Vilno was about 2%.

@Wladyslaw_Raginis

4 жыл бұрын

@zero signal That may be true but remember two things: 1. Gdańsk was a strategic point for Poles to get into the Baltic sea. 2. Hitler wouldn't stop invading if they would've gotten democratically Gdańsk. We've seen what happened with Czechoslovakia...

great video ,the final quotes even better!

Awesome video and great pronunciation of the Polish names. This channel is great!!!

Happy 100th year anniversary of the miracle of the Vistula everyone!

The only KZread history channel that would consult notes on camera rather than edit it in post-production. (Not really a bad thing, has a video chat feel to it.)

Excellent work. Stellar.

Such an interesting subject, I didn’t know anything about it! Thank you, it was very clear. I laughed hard at the very end!!

@jessealexander2695

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Poland is one of the most metal countries out there

@kstreet7438

4 жыл бұрын

i'd love to go but Warsaw is like 5,000 miles away.

Very educational. Thank you.

This episode covers Polish-Soviet Wars: A New 'Kraine and Polish-Soviet Wars: The First Cavalry Army Strikes Back. Tune in next time for Polish-Soviet Wars: The Return of Pilsudski

@kunalns

4 жыл бұрын

@Fabian Kirchgessner There is also a prequel trilogy: The Khmelnytsky Menace, Attack of the Cossacks and Revenge of the Romanovs

Fascinating video!

Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła

@MS-gr2nv

3 жыл бұрын

Is that eat polish its not rotten?

@benselectionforcasting4172

3 жыл бұрын

@@MS-gr2nv nope, "Poland has not yet Perished."

@ripasso27554

3 жыл бұрын

Я така сама хуйня, тільки ще не вмерли

@maximkretsch7134

10 ай бұрын

Nie jeszcze.

Hey guys! I have an odd question! The song that plays in the beginning of the episodes of 1920 when the title screen appears, is really good ! Is this just a small part of a bigger song? And who is the composer/who made it? I think it’s a nice bit of music and would like to find the rest of it, if it exists. Also great vids :) ! Thanks to everyone involved for making this awesome series!

Fun fact about Kiev Operation, there was no operational plans. Only first phase of operation was planned by Piłsudski's loyal officers: Stachewicz, Wieniawa and Radziwiłł, no one of them had an operational education and experience on this planning level. When Polish Army started quickly advantage on big chunk of territory in 2-3 days, later the army was standing for one week becouse there was no orders, no one planned what's next...

Could you give a source for argument that "Piłsudski held antisemitic views"?

@Eric123456355

3 жыл бұрын

Is bs he didn’t quite opposite

@jaku5796

3 жыл бұрын

I think it won't be possible. Most of the time, if antisemitic riots starts, Piłsudski called to stop it. He wasn't an antisemite, nor was he a philosemite. But maybe this second is now consider as being antisemite ;]

@sharischoll9411

3 жыл бұрын

I heard Jesus was an antisemite and they wanted to put a warning on the Bible.

Great vid.

14:50 WOOOW you correctly pronounce he's name respect from the Pole.

@jessealexander2695

4 жыл бұрын

I got a Polish friend to help me out...

@sahteekrem

4 жыл бұрын

@@jessealexander2695 Then, a small remark: the name "Chicherin" has its stress on the second-to-last syllable: "ChichErin". And Stalin is "Stalin", not "Shtalin". (But that is definitely not smth. of major importance, of course.)

@jessealexander2695

4 жыл бұрын

@@sahteekrem Yeah, Russian stresses are so unpredictable, and I forgot to look Chicherin up before filming! Stalin was a slip of the tongue from speaking German so often. :)

@dclark142002

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed. I've always wondered how to properly pronounce his name. Now I know. THANK YOU

@sahteekrem

4 жыл бұрын

@@jessealexander2695 Indeed, our stresses are a nightmare for foreigners. :-D The logic behind the Russian stress pattern has only relatively recently been cracked down... ;-)

You still have one of the nicest intros on ytb

Thanks!

Long life polish brothers!

Please, talk about Sinkiang during the Russian Civil War!!

@user-xw5xo3bv1n

4 жыл бұрын

Didn't chineese had their own civil war in the same time...? Also tbh i would like to learn something about it.

@cactus3404

4 жыл бұрын

Chinese* go to school.

@JohnSmith-ts3dt

4 жыл бұрын

I remember that it was a base for some Whites, and that was it.

@luisacelaya4362

4 жыл бұрын

Smith anda then why kt ended as a Comintern country? (Like Tannu Tuva)

Isaac Babel reminds me of George Costanza From Seinfeld.

Greetings from Vilnius-Vilna

Wow! This is a great series. I wish I had discovered it in 2014. Oh well, I have a lot of binging to do...

This episode was sooo much better and accurate from all sides than the one from Between Two Wars...

Where did you get that model Mark 4? Cause I want one!

Thank you.

It's still odd to see Jessie without braces...

Can we just look at this Mark V Lego tank? This is very realistic and well realised! intresting video! Thanks 👍🏻

@jessealexander2695

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for noticing. :)

Awesome

Był traktat wersalski 1818 i już w 1919 problemy. W 1920 Piłsudski na szczęście problem rozwiązał. Dalej obcy nie rozumieją że Polska Królowa Jadwiga Piast i i Polski Król Władysław Jagiełło władają terytorium 1 RP od 1386 ślub, 1569 unia realna lubelska.

Norman Davies is a legendary historian. His books are so great!

@mp1335

3 жыл бұрын

He's a meme historian that punches out books en-masse for selling bait. Some of the stuff he writes about is really poorly researched. Even concrete dates are off by years when he's writing about the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth for example.

@CaptainHarlock-kv4zt

3 жыл бұрын

@@mp1335 Have you read any of his books?

So what side were the Ukes on? Thanks for the video.

Wonder if part 2 will mention Zaolzie situation - id anything, just to underline how little hope did anyone had for Poland at the turning point. Also - Budionny Konarmy is horribly underrepresented in popular awareness - it would be REALLY nice if you could expand this topic.

As for the federal idea, it was not at all Piłsudski's idea. The main author of the federational idea was Leon Wasilewski, and the idea itself was presented at the Paris Congress of Polish Socialists in 1892. Piłsudski slightly modified that idea, and the geopolitical situation was not favourable to its realisation.

Perfect choice of quote to illustrate the multinational situation in Eastern Europe there!

@jessealexander2695

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Can we see your books? Thank you!

Pity that Ukraine didn’t create Ukrainian state. I can understand that they didn’t trust Piłsudski intentions. It was in Poland’s interest to have strong Ukraine as a buffer from Soviet Russia. The biggest issue was the of course land disputes because many lands had mixed population. Anyway I think if Ukrainians would choose to cooperate with Poland they would most likely avoid the Great Holodomor in 30s.

@bingobongo1615

4 жыл бұрын

Mariusz Kozłowski If the Poles didn’t attack them maybe the Ukrainians wouldn’t have collapsed so easily under the Soviet attacks...

@Poctyk

4 жыл бұрын

@@bingobongo1615 Nah, internal instability and the inability of governments to solve the painful land ownership question, doomed young Ukrainian republic even before 1920. Between 1917 and 1920 Ukraine had not one, not two but 3 (three) distinct governments.

@satanbrony9235

4 жыл бұрын

@@Poctyk Do you take Machno's territory as one of those?:

@Poctyk

4 жыл бұрын

@@satanbrony9235 nah, that's not even an internationally recognized government. If we go this way, I should also add 2-4 (I am too lazy to count now) 100% legit totally not Moscow puppets created by Bolsheviks.

@filipkopec525

4 жыл бұрын

@@bingobongo1615 Poland fought with a different Ukraine bro

I miss these videos and the "wrap up" timeline review from the time period.

Glad we’re still getting The Great War content while quarantined. Also, I’m sure the Soviets will never invade Poland again (cough 1939 cough) or ever become a satellite state (cough post definitely not a Second World War cough)

@user-xw5xo3bv1n

4 жыл бұрын

Man, even this video quite literally tells that Poles invaded Soviet Russia. That poles were trying to recreate PLC by any means. And they advanced up to, say, Kiev and eastern Belarus. And [after] that Soviets pushed them back up to Warsaw.

@jakubcesarzdakos5442

4 жыл бұрын

@Fabian Kirchgessner Poles attacked Soviets when they were still busy with Whites. It wasn't something unexpected that Soviets would sooner or later strike Poland, especially as they did not have any set borders (and their potential proposals were unacceptable for the opposing sides). And Poland no u-ed Soviets later too

@Arbiter099

4 жыл бұрын

I know someone you might be able to telephone about these possibilities

@ArkadiBolschek

4 жыл бұрын

Well, the Soviets definitely didn't become a satellite state of Poland ^^

@gregski4130

4 жыл бұрын

@Fabian Kirchgessner Please explain me what Russian city or land has been invaded by Poles?

polish-soviet war without Ukraine and after that german-soviet friendship without Poland

@OrkosUA

4 жыл бұрын

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@wladjarosz345

4 жыл бұрын

@@OrkosUA отож!

@EnigmaEnginseer

3 жыл бұрын

@@OrkosUA hehe panzer go vroom

Loved the clip, though one correction: Pilsudski was not antisemitic - even if some of his aides were after 1920.

Hi TGW team!

@TheGreatWar

4 жыл бұрын

Hallo Ulrich

Very good video and the pronunciation of Rydz-Śmigły... and smart tactic to encourage commenting ;) I've never heard thought about Piłsudski's antisemitism - could you elaborate more on that?

@mixererunio1757

4 жыл бұрын

There was no such thing. Nor Dmowski was antisemitic. After he left his own party it turned antisemitic but Dmowski himself wasn't antisemitic.

i really like that intro whats the song name

22:06 He's either REALLY superb or has friends in REALLY high places

What do you mean by saying "Pilsudski held antisemitic views"?

@stanandollie7041

4 жыл бұрын

Kornel Florez Pilsudski was married to a Jewess

@kornelflorez5709

4 жыл бұрын

@@stanandollie7041what do you mean. He had 2 wives and both of them sound like members of Polish szlachta. Besides it doesnt change the question - why the creators of the video say Pilsudski "held antisemitic views"?

@Adam-rj9wz

4 жыл бұрын

Kornel Florez - it was Dmowski who had anti Semitic views. They were rivals.

@kornelflorez5709

4 жыл бұрын

@@Adam-rj9wzi know they were rivals. Anyway, Dmowskis 'antisemitism' is actually also debatable, mostly depending on the definition of what antisemitism is. Besides, I read that Dmowski also did point out in his writings to the poor living condtions of small town jewry, then he would help finance some Jewish kids education. But this is side question. What I asked is why Pilsudski was described in the vid as having "held antisemitic views". What does it mean exactly, dear authors?

The guy with the top hat @6:40 is Ignacy Paderewski

I am almost sure that the models he has on his shelf are the Polish Cobi bricks

Gonna admit that your "Rydz - Śmigły" was quite on point.

Your pronunciation of Polish names is perfect!

Is Ian from Forgotten weapons in the berlin documentary??

@TheGreatWar

4 жыл бұрын

he is

AND THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED!!

what I don't get is where is the condemnation of Poland for their invasion? When USSR took back it's territories in 1939 everyone lost their minds.

@user-mc8ow8me9o

9 ай бұрын

It was poland that took its lands back those land were taken by russians in 1793

@richardsorge2001

9 ай бұрын

@@user-mc8ow8me9o that's what I'm saying. Poles are taking territory they had more than a century ago and it's fine yet when ruskies does the same for the same territory it's the worst thing in the history of mankind.

@DytoxPrime

9 ай бұрын

​@@richardsorge2001Because Russia took those territories by conquest, they are not rightfully theirs.

@aAverageFan

Ай бұрын

​@@DytoxPrime Do you think Ukraine and Belarus should return those lands back to Poland which the USSR had annexed in 1939?

@DytoxPrime

Ай бұрын

​@@aAverageFan No, the lands should remain as they are. Changing lands beetwen hands now would make more trouble than they're worth, not to mention the beurocratic nightmare and instability it would cause. There's plenty to go around, I don't see why anybody is dissatisfied with what they have.

14:30 to 14:55 Outstanding pronunciation :)