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@ericaugust1501

16 күн бұрын

really informative presentation. thank you. you mentioned the safe pole-hammers you duelled with had 250gram heads. How heavy, roughly, is a real polehammer head? 750grams? 1 kg? 1.5kg?

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

@@ericaugust1501 that's a good guess. I think it's around 600 to 1300 grams max

@giftzwerg7345

15 күн бұрын

how effective do you think this was on the battle fild in formation, like how do you invision its use and the differences to a duel? Like i imagine that grappeling was probably a lot less, coz its too dangerous when the men next and behind to your target are free to strike at you while youre defenveless

@dequitem

15 күн бұрын

@@giftzwerg7345 I am not a battlefield expert but I think the same!

@StrigoiVampire

15 күн бұрын

In my opinion, your channel is the best about medieval weapons

This is definitely Dequitem, an armored fighter in non-choreographed knight fights like these:

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

"I am and I will continue to be!" Matt Easton

Ever since I read The Deeds of Jacques de Lalaing and Le Jeu de la Hache I was preaching that poleaxes/polehammers weren't meant for armour penetration or repeated bashing, since that would give little to no results. Jacques mostly used it as a spear to aim for the gaps, only occasionally using it as a hammer when he could deliver a very powerful blow, but never once he tried to penetrate armor, supposedly because he knew it would be fruitless.

@AlgaeGaming

16 күн бұрын

Yep, I thought le Jeu was unique, but Pietro Monte also taught the the queue use until there was an opening. It's basically boxing: you jab until you get an opening, and then you come in with your rear hand for actual power.

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

Yes that definitely a good way to use it!

16 күн бұрын

or even could get stuck in the armor, and in that instant you'd be basically disarmed and exposed

@MinSredMash

16 күн бұрын

I bet these would be used for a lot of repeated bashing in a battlefield environment where there would often be opportunities to strike from the second rank at a target who is already engaged. But yeah, in a duel that does not seem to be a good approach.

@colbyboucher6391

16 күн бұрын

Seems silly that you wouldn't just have a spear or a halberd of some sort, then. The hammerhead would literally just be weighing you down. Surely someone stuck it on there, and people chose to keep making them, for a reason.

1:03 bro was sent to sleep here.

"Don't kill your friends." Excellent advice! 😂 Great video as always!

Hey those look pauldrons look familiar!! Haha, great test and analysis my friend.

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

Yes now you know we're the holes came from.

@dashrendar5320

16 күн бұрын

@@dequitemhaha indeed

Love it how realistic your fights are portrayed. Plain and simple. No fancy shit.

I am glad to see you show the test vs maille armour. I think the hammer is still anti-armour, its just plate armour is anti-anti-armour

@theprancingprussian

16 күн бұрын

I think many get confused when they think of plate Like crossbows being better on armour at times, just that armour was multiple layers of maille or brigandine with windless crossbows not being a decisive counter to plate

This is really interesting. The falcons beak under performed to my expectations. 🤔

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

Mine too.

I feel like we have seen a few tests like this against plate armor, and in most cases the plate (even if largely unhardened iron-alloys) provides sufficient protection that a human (or analog) would be largely uninjured from the weapon systems and/or circumstantial parameters of the testing. Additionally, most of these armor tests are setup to favor the weapon over the armored target (i.e. the armor being tested has fewer glancing blows do to the target being stationary and less yielding than human combatants), and yet we still see very few instances where a plate has been penetrated deeply enough to give consequential battlefield injury. I think a poleaxe/polehammer is still an optimal weapon for foot combat in plated harness, but that has more to do with the overall toolset and mechanical advantage such weapons offer.

Great job! I like how you are demonstrating how resistant plate armor is, dispelling some of the myths surrounding the supposed anti armor weapons. I also love the fact that you are testing the weapons in full contact sparring and not just theoretically study them. When it comes to the pollaxe though, while a lot of historical examples were dull I am not entirely convinced they were not sharpened. A sharp pollaxe would be very useful against opponents who were not fully armored, since chopping into those unarmored parts would be fight ending compared to trying to smash the armor, of which you have the hammer available.

truly an unfortunate outcome, i really thought it would go through the helmet! lucerne hammer will still be my favorite polearm though, such an awesome piece of history. thanks for everything you do dequitem

As a reenactment participant. I truly enjoy your descriptions, discussions and exhibitions. Thank you. Keep it coming please.

The main spike could be used to easily penetrate even the best mail. I believe that is exactly what it was designed to do. Nothing besides a good gun could reliably be used to penetrate quality plate armor in the late mideval period. That is why specialized weapons were adopted to exploit the armors only weakness, which was the gaps usually covered by mail.

@verdiss7487

15 күн бұрын

Plate armor was still worn well into the 18th century. It had to be thicker to be resistant to bullets, but it could resist bullets until that period. That thickness meant extra weight, though, so it was typically only a breastplate worn in the final years.

@b.h.abbott-motley2427

15 күн бұрын

Fiore de'i Liberi wrote that a pollaxe thrust could defeat plate armor: "This guard delivers a powerful thrust that can penetrate cuirasses & breastplates." It's possible this was hyperbole/boasting. On the other hand, period armor varied a lot in quality, especially circa 1400. Strength & skill likewise varies.

That's a truly fearsome weapon! Great video as always.

Your videos are some of the most informative on armored fighting!

Love your non-choregraphed fighting and the knowledge you bring. Great video.

Wow your channel has grown a lot! I've been watching you on and off for a long while now and these videos are just awesome. Glad to see you doing well!

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

Thanks man!

This is a well shot video. Great job with the explanation and demonstration.

Tolle Doku...mit stimmungsvollen Kampfbeispielen...Wie immer...hohe Qualität und supi Optik...Danke!!!

Great video! Thank you for doing these tests

Awesome production as always

Very informal. I had not considered that a spike may be better at transferring blunt force trauma through armor, if it settles within it. Even if it does not penetrate deeply, it must be a nasty hit.

@DanielMWJ

16 күн бұрын

Yeah. The primary thing you're penetrating with is not the weapon itself, but the force. People with huge bruises, broken bones, and concussions aren't going to resist much against you finishing them off or taking them captive.

@Poeneutral

16 күн бұрын

@@DanielMWJ I agree with the concussion part. But I do not think even a broken bone would be demoralizing enough, in the face of death, to allow someone to kill you. Especially not a bruise. It will certainly make you an easier target, however.

@BelieverOfChrist2

16 күн бұрын

@@Poeneutral adrenaline might just keep you long enough standing to finish the fight, people get shot and run away, or fight on, only to realize a few minutes later that they got hit. depends on who, when, where.. obviously

@DanielMWJ

16 күн бұрын

@@Poeneutral The spirit is willing, but the body is spongey and weak. It's really just a loss of initiative from having slightly dulled responses while already being on the backfoot (or worse) from being pounded.

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

Absolutely!!!

man I love these videos, very rare genera of content which I've searched for over many years

thanks for showing Lucy some love! i feel like the Lucerne is often under represented in a lot of media. Which is a shame because it's such a cool weapon.

Thanks for your insight, very interesting test and video!

Stuff like this is the most effective weapon to fight someone who has made by wearing armor most weapons ineffective against them. The point of armor is to make weapons less effective against the wearer, that is why the owners invested large fortunes to get them and wear them. People think that armor can be just negated, but in practice the most you can do is try to get around it and that is where these come in.

Poleaxe or polehammer seems like a great choice for a strong knight who knows he is not that good at wrestling. One accurate or lucky blow to the head has the potential to knock down the opponent, and you can get your ransom or win the duel.

any puncture wound deeper than 2 inches can be mortal, a spike like that of your Warhammer, can sever any mayor vein or artery, the narrow spike stab will provoke internal bleed on top of a potentially bone breaking contusion, if received on the viscera it can reduce organ function, kinetic force can shred organs like the liver, kidneys and brain, without any puncture. I'd like to see how well it does poking metal, chainmail and gambeson all together. Also, have you heard about partially reinforced plating? something like armor thicker in certain point's to protect the viscera? it was used at all? if so, was it successful? is that level of craftsmanship only attainable to the nobles? I'm not quite as versed in this topics as you sir. GReat content! btw greetings from Colombia (America)

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

It's hard to aim for it or rely on it.

@lehtju4waif5ahk49

15 күн бұрын

Pretty much all armor was thicker from the front of the chest & helmet, and thinner in the limbs, faulds & sides...

I like the filter you used for the video. Makes it look like a painting

Fiore de'i Liberi's treatise does indicate that a single powerful blow to the helmet from a pollaxe could kill or incapacitate. Doing so wouldn't require penetrating armor. & a test of a historical halberd against a historical munitions-grade harness achieved penetration of the helmet by striking with the halberd's beak. So spikes & beaks could pierce plate armor at times, depending on the wielder & the armor in question.

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

Yes but normaly not hardened armor of a knight.

@zacharyshoemaker835

7 күн бұрын

​​@@dequitem Question! In Tods workshop bows vs arrows 2, they determined that mild steel acted similarilly to the cross laminated wrought iron that would have been common at Agincourt. How well would this weapon preform against plate that is mild steel? P.s love the work keep it up!

@dequitem

6 күн бұрын

@@zacharyshoemaker835 I don't agree with tod there, but something between my hardened steel test and the iron rondel.

@zacharyshoemaker835

6 күн бұрын

@@dequitem The thing for me is that this isn't technically their owm conclusion but rather a peer review of Alan Williams findings in The Knight and the Blast Furnace.

Thank you very much for testing diffrent quality material. i was commenting about that in a previous video of yours so im genuinely thankful beeing able to see that. i can imagine that people in the past didnt know how to overcome amor either. weapons like poleaxes and so forth where just the best bet. this is why grapling, ending it dirty on the ground is described to often. i wonder how much % did have plate on an historical battlefield

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

In the 15th century nearly everyone, but of course the quality and armored parts depends. Most men in arms only had a breastplate and helmet. But there are normaly no unarmored peasents on a battlefield.

Okay but what's the best Ash of War to use on it?

@PancakesEnjoyer

16 күн бұрын

Can't go wrong with spinning slash, though braggarts roar is great too.

@DieLuftwaffel

16 күн бұрын

Wtf?

@witar.

16 күн бұрын

@@PancakesEnjoyer Shriek of sorrow when it fails to penetrate any armor

@Specter_1125

16 күн бұрын

@@DieLuftwaffelit’s an Elden ring reference. The lucerne hammer has been featured in several From Software games, so it’s where a lot of people first got introduced to them.

@bentrieschmann

16 күн бұрын

I prefer Storm Assault.

It’s a lot lighter than I expected!

Absolutely awesome im about to binge watch now

Most curious to me was learning that most heavily armored duels ended in grappling and wrestling. I of course knew that was a common end point, but I really had no idea it was so prevalent. I was aware that the end almost always came when the villain was on the ground.

Bravo! Finally! This is the video the internet needed!! Love it!

Thanks for doing the chain mail tests, the plate armor is the pinnacle, but chain and padding is the every man's armor. This weapon is absolutely badass.

The forest setting adds great atmosphere to your presentation.

I think its good to make sure armor in an armor test is on something with some, but not too much, give, to simulate that a body wearing it also has some give. it has some weight, but isn’t fastened solid to spot in space so that all the energy goes strait into the material at one point, but instead, some of it is dissipated by the body moving a bit with the blow is struck.

Not surprised there was little to no penetration on the plate armor on these tests (armor works!) but I'm very curious what that kind of damage would look like to the people on the other side. Broken bones, broken necks, brusing, being knocked around, etc. Time to fund a ballistic gel head for Dequitem!

I'm a simple man. I saw a guy in a full suit of armor holding a warhammer and I hit like.

The images from Hans Talhoffer's manuscripts are absolutely showing techniques for an armored duel with unarmored figures. In the personal manuscript (1459), the figures randomly lose their armor in the middle of the armored-duel section but keep using armored techniques. Pollaxes of whatever variety are quite functional for unarmored fighting, however. They're not the best, but many halberds had similar basic stats & a halberd is quite potent in an unarmored duel or skirmish even if it's inferior to a spear.

Какой молодец спасибо за то что объяснил

Hello again! Loved the video, covered a lot of things I was wondering about the weapons. I had a suggestion for a video, that being an overall idea of how one grapples while in a harness. Most of your fights all end with grappling and stabbing for gaps, and I was wondering if you could shed more light on that.

@dequitem

15 күн бұрын

I will defenetly do that in the future. It is on my list with nearly 100 other themes 😬

So I think what can be taken away from this is that with the increased use of metal in armor, for instance, covering joints in 16th century armor, that the hammer could have been used more to lock up and disrupt the joints making it harder for one to react. If we look at the evolution of armor and how it moved to cover both more vulnerable spots and tie downs, that means weapons were utilized to take advantage of these openings.

Uh I am really excited about this video. I bet I will see some correction in terms of how "Anti-Armor"-Weapon it is. I presume it will not be Armor piercing, but rather be Pain-under-Armor-bringing. Let's have a watch... Great video! Thank you for making this. I mostly thought the Beak is used for opponents with gambesons or Mail and the other Pieces are for letting the Knight go KO or get stabbed in the gaps of the armor. I really like your take on that matter. Your videos are awesome, especially your camera and open fighting. You are not only speaking theoretically, you also go on practical with your equipment against a resisting Partner.

Thank you so much for this video! You had teased it in comments before, but it's even better than I was expecting. If you managed to get your opponent on the ground, would you try penetrating gaps with the queue/buttspike or another part of the polehammer, or would you prefer mounting with a rondel dagger?

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

Defenetly the but and front spike!

Another amazing video from Dequitem. Made my day.

First time here. I've immediately recognized your German accent 🥰. Based channel! I subbed.

I'm very glad that in the sphere of historical arms, this complex and intriguing area of historical sciences, there is always place for both researching the in-depth documents and hitting stuff (as well as, in a safe manner, people) with large spiky objects. Btw, I was wondering if the tassets (don't know if that is the correct term, I mean the metal skirt) of your armor are based on any historical examples. The somewhat angular shape looks cool, I just want to see more.

@dequitem

12 күн бұрын

Yes it's historical based. Most of the surviving tasets have more decorations.

Astonished at how well the armor did; I guessed it would be opened right up.

I will get one of these bad boys soon. Love them

Always loved the bec de Corbin, used it in a Warnanlage mod a while back, always thought it was sick.

@dequitem

10 күн бұрын

Deine Autokorrektur hat mich zum lachen gebracht. Grüße!

hey the quality is unreal!! would you mind naming the Camera Setup?

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

Fujifilm XT5

Those hits to the head look strong.

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

Because they were strong. Sorry to my friend 😬.

AWESOME VIDEO ! Its amazing how tough the medieval armour was ! No wonder one full plated knight on horseback could fight few dozen peasants with pitchforks wearing only gambeson type cloth armour ...

Great stuff!

Mal wieder ein schönes Video.

The spike on the pole hammer is not for trying to penetrate plate armor but for tripping and "scratching" and backslashing tendons, legs, arms necks and so on. Same for the axe of pole axe - the axe head has the same usage. U can use it as and axe but also as the beak. Same for the halberds - not primarily used for chopping but for backslashing after thrust and tripping your opponent. The main striking part of these weapons is the hammer head.

Although you guys should always keep in mind that your armor is much thicker and more uniform than the historical quality, potentially higher metallurgic quality too if high carbon. Limb defenses could be quite thin and much more susceptible to serious damage from very fine points concentrating impact energy, or just heavy blunt impacts on the hand/back of the head, etc.

@dequitem

14 күн бұрын

Did you watch the video? I already used 0,8 mm steel. And I forged it traditionally with a hammer by hand, so the thickness isn't uniform. Yes the steel quality can be higher, but there are some outstanding 15th ans 16th century armors with the same high steel quality.

Hey @Dequitem have you ever tested work-hardened mild steel armor? A while back Tod and Matt Easton did that test with a rondel dagger against raw sheet metal and they got significant penetration. The thing is, plain mild sheet is usually softened from the factory to make it easier to work with. I'd be really interested to see if shaped and work-hardened mild steel would be enough to change those results

@dequitem

14 күн бұрын

Me two. But I have to buy a sharp dagger first.

Enjoyed that thanks

Great video as always! I would love to know who made this beautiful hammer?

@dequitem

15 күн бұрын

Good question. I buy it second hand.

You talk about when a penetrating weapon would injure or kill. Could you explain the general threshold for a lethal hit or a wounding hit with various weapons? PS your hair is majestic. PPS, what are the advantages or flaws of fluted armor versus regular armor?

@BelieverOfChrist2

16 күн бұрын

flutes armor makes it harder to deliver a solid hit, and actually adds more strength to the armor

@BelieverOfChrist2

16 күн бұрын

can you elaborate with what you mean by "general threshold" everyone has another threshold for when they die, bigger guys obviously need more of a punch

@dootless3819

16 күн бұрын

@@BelieverOfChrist2 Knights of average size for the time. What would generally be a lethal hit or otherwise a wounding one, an injuring one, or a relatively ineffective strike?

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

Sounds interesting. @BeliverOfChrist2 has already successfully answered the armor question but the leathel hit discussion will be on my list of upcoming videos!

@BelieverOfChrist2

16 күн бұрын

@@dequitem the fans will keep giving topics, dont worry!

Great video :)

Knights are so god damn cool. Can't wait to finish my suit of armor.

WOW ! YOU ARE VICIOUS!

I am no professional at all.. not even an amateur.. Just the typical random internet guy. However, when i would have to think about how this tool was used I'd go towards finding gaps in an armor. Further I think that in case your oponent is using sword and shield you'd have a massive advantage in reach and leverage. Keeping the enemy from you while being able to "pull" the shield away with the beak and then going forward to penetrate the gaps in the armor (under the arms or maybe between helmet and breastplate) with the speared front. The hammer part? I have no clue at all.. maybe for lesser armored foes to deliver more blunt force trauma to the head? Anyways, great Video! Subbed! :D

@dequitem

8 күн бұрын

Sounds reasonable, but in reality it didn't work so well. A shield user can overcome you and close the reach disadvantage. A onehanded sword is much more versatile in closed combat.

Another excellent video! The name literally means "beak of the raven" or, raven's beak/ravensbeak.

@dequitem

14 күн бұрын

Sometimes called bec de falcon or falcons beak as a twohanded version.

Great work man ❤

Another great video. Do you think that in pre-plate times, assuming you would not use lamellar / scale / splint or smaller plates over mail shirt, could mail protect center of mass (lets say chest) from piercing attacks if it was made in similiar fashion as the mail that was used in later periods for the aventail / neck area. Recently I saw a good evidence (Fateful Force archery videos) that bodkin arrow with 40-50 joules (45-70 lb bow, depending on type and draw length - basically entry level warbow or even hunting bow) could penetrate decent quality riveted mail based on mail armors from plate armor era. I am trying to find some logical reason why bows did not dominate battlefield in Europe in pre-plate middle ages because based on what I know they actually did not dominate, but based on evidence they can definitelly penetrate "normal" mail and in many parts of Europe lamellar / scale / etc was not that common so how was melee infantry and cavalry (let alone shock infantry) so dominant in the "mail period" when bows seem to defeat it so easily? I know shields existed, but arrows can penetrate them to the point where they hit the arm or other body part of the wearer. Any ideas?

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

Maybe because of the use of shields as dominant secondary weapons, often counter war bows.

@aLukepop

15 күн бұрын

Curious how far away they tested those bows, compared to the distances they were generally used in battles

@philozoraptor6808

15 күн бұрын

@@aLukepop Generally short distance, except for the shield test which was done up to 100 metres. However it is all about kinetic energy, 60 pound bow at point blank range may have energy of 80 pound bow at 100 metres, so it is relatively easy to extrapolate.

@kingoietro99

13 күн бұрын

@@philozoraptor6808I loved your realistic combat mod for bannerlord. Wish you the best

I do question the validity of the penetration depths in the mail test, as you are swinging into wood as opposed to flesh.

@dequitem

15 күн бұрын

Yes but the wood was rotten and the ring stopped it not the wood.

Great video as always. Who made your polehammer?

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

I buy it second hand.

@torenbesnoren7929

15 күн бұрын

Arma Bohemia sells one in stock that they list as "copy of a warhammer" on their site with 95% similar head design and same length (though 0.2 kg lighter, maybe wood type) so it may be whoever makes that model, I've bought it and its very solid but I haven't smacked anything with mine yet. You can also ask Bjorn Ruther where he got his as I believe the head is the exact same design and make kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4eF0JOulrbJg7Q.html.

@Jim-ed3ej

15 күн бұрын

@@torenbesnoren7929 Thanks!

great video

Crazy you could beat that plate all day and just give them a bruise. But any kids Glock will go straight through it. For its day plate armor was such a cheat code for the rich and royal.

Im seriously considering buying a bec de faucon, what brand would you say makes the best inexpensive ones?

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

Very good question. I didn't test that much smith's. Don't have the money for that kind of advice.

Talhoffer does not depict pollaxe combat outside of armour. This is a common misconception - in truth the section is entirely in armour and the artist for reasons unknown to us decided to stop drawing the participants in armour partway through the treatise. The section starts with them armoured and never once indicates it's switching to unarmoured combat.

@dequitem

13 күн бұрын

You turn my words. Yes it shows unarmored people with poleaxe, but they show armored techniques without armor, like many people show techniques without armor today. So the reason is clear. It's easyer to show a technique and hold still without armor, so the artist can draw it.

Great historical weapons and armor impressive to see strength of modern smithing.

Really nice video. But is longsword better than shorten poleaxe or they are matched? It's a bit unclear

@dequitem

13 күн бұрын

Personal preference in a duell on foot. On the battlefield in foot combat it's a longer poleaxe and on battlefield horseback it's a sword

Awesome video. Just a tip; ‘Hardened’ is pronounced ‘har-dund’ (2 syllables) and not ‘har-dun-nid’. Same with ‘shortened’ (pronounced ‘shor-tund’, with 2 syllables). Keep up the good work!

@dequitem

Күн бұрын

Ups. I try better!

@vaporz109

Күн бұрын

@@dequitem Your channel is great! Subscribed haha. Btw any chance of getting a hold of a ghiavarina in the future? I read it’s one of Fiore’s favorite weapons but I never see any demonstrations with it. Anyways, tks for the great content!

@dequitem

Күн бұрын

@@vaporz109 is there a English translation for the weapon? Do you talk about the double spear?

That weapon has "deadly" written all over it😮. Nonstop action all over 1's face. Very powerful battle's 👍💯💙❕❕❕

With your comment about hooking things with the axe head, couldn't you also hook things with the beak? Or would that be less practical since the beak historically was smaller?

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

You can also hook with the spike but it's less effective!

It's amazing to me that pauldrons and such other extremity-covering plates don't need to be super thick. I was also watching Tod Cutler and his associates testing a 160 pound longbow against plate armor similar to what the French would have worn at Agincourt, and I was amazed how much of a beating thin shoulder plates could take from the arrows at close range.

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

And that was very cheap mild steel, that wasn't historical forged with micro dents....

@stuartburns8657

14 күн бұрын

​@@dequitemwhy do micro dents matter?

@dequitem

13 күн бұрын

The forging process with the dents as an results makes the material a little bit harder. It will be compressed. It's not hardened steel, but much harder than without forging.

@stuartburns8657

13 күн бұрын

@@dequitem okay thank you 👍

great locations

Where did you get this beautiful reproduction of the polehammer? I mean the metal one

@Huntsmanlance

16 күн бұрын

I would love to know also

@Kingdomkey123678

16 күн бұрын

I think he made it since he makes his armor

@crimsoncrusader4829

16 күн бұрын

@@Kingdomkey123678 I've seen similar/same model on other channels (scholagladiatoria and Björn Rüther), so I think it's from an arms maker.

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

I buy it second hand.

That swaying log absorbing a lot of the impact

@dequitem

14 күн бұрын

Like every padded or real target.

it doesn't necessarily seem to be worth the effort to use as anti armor, because even if you go through, you're really only going through a few centimetres and there might be plate and/or Gambeson beneath that so how much are you really penetrating or causing harm?

Poleaxe on battlefield, long sword in duels. If you have someone standing next to you then you want reach and a strong forward downstroke. You won’t benefit from sword swipes in a line formation.

@b.h.abbott-motley2427

15 күн бұрын

Specialized longswords for armored dueling were somewhere between typical longswords & pollaxes.

I mean given that these strikes were to the shoulder i suspect that if you hit at that angle a few times no penetration would be needed to render the user permanently crippled lol I may be in a bit of a bubble but I didn't know people expected the plates, especially of a higher quality (and as we know from the findings a ton of stuff was well below what we consider hardened these days), would be pierced by these. It even just *looks* purpose meant to break maille. In fact we still use tools shaped like this beak to break welded chains lmao

@dequitem

15 күн бұрын

I don't think that you injure someone trough the plate.

13:26 When I saw you hit your opponent and drop him, what happened? Did you knock him out? What actually brings a man down in armor, is it stunning from repeated blows? is it concussion like in a boxing match, is it losing balance? Please do a video on this.

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

Hard to tell u can't messure it. And the answer of a man after the fight is hard to judge because you can't remember that much. Adrenaline makes all unclear and soft.

If you please, I have a unique question. How comfortable would you be with standard shin protection against an opponent armed with a simple rod of iron stock that was going after your shins like you owed him money for bootleg liquor? Would one good swing be enough to break a shin through armor?

@BelieverOfChrist2

16 күн бұрын

if its good steel; would maybe bruise at most but nothing worse

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

I didn't wear padding there. You will not break them that easy!

@KyIeMcCIeIIan

16 күн бұрын

@@dequitem I figured as much, plate is amazing stuff.

Hello i wonder how would chest plate preform vs charging knight with lance,that would be amazing to see! but expensive too :X

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

Mayby one day in the far future I will have the opportunity!

at 1:06 I dont think they'd keep disengaging, they'd try to grapple each other or lock their weapons, and either be trying to disarm the other or take the fight to the ground

Dequitem do you have any tests on rondell daggers vs mail and gambeson? I find it even hard to believe a rondell dagger penetrating mail even though that is what they were used for

@BelieverOfChrist2

16 күн бұрын

it will penetrate if you put enough force into it, though just trying to stab someone while standing: makes it unlikely.. but very efficient if the guy is on the ground and you need to stab through the maille

@Ose-here

16 күн бұрын

gambeson is a confusing term. usually i just say "arming doublet " since a little rule i was told was that a gambeson often referred to a stand alone armor, and doublet meant a simple arming shirt with very few layers.

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

I will make one in the next 2or 3 month.

How do you ensure that your thrusting attacks to the neck, don’t slide between padding and cause serious injury?

@dequitem

11 күн бұрын

Hope and good equipment!

1:02 daaaaammnnn

Just out of curiosity what altitude are you usually dueling at cause it looks like an alpine forest

Was a bit surprised the spike penetrated the steel at all. Thought it would only function against chain. I'm sure some favored it in duels because it was simply more practical to them to get very, very good with one weapon; career soldiers would almost certainly need to get good with a hammer anyway, and if you have the choice of spending, say, 30 weeks training with a weapon you're definitely getting in fights with because that's your job, or 15 weeks each split between that and a weapon you might only use in a duel for a moderate advantage... Of course training for battlefield combat and training for duels are different, but maybe there was enough overlap for some to decide to just go all-in and use it even in less ideal situations. The depictions of unarmored duelists using polehammers (and unarmored duelists using "nonsensical" weapons in general) may have been in light of that, or it may have been done to make it clear for certain techniques that your opponent's exact armor is irrelevant (blunt strikes, hooking and tripping, etc).

@dequitem

16 күн бұрын

I think it's more of showing the techniques and not a real fight.

Can this weapon pierce armor? *John put on the suit*