Pokemon Theory: Blue's Raticate Never Died (Gary/Green)
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Lance hacked three dragonites. me explain. Lance has three dragonites lvl.49 lvl.49 lvl.50. Dragonite evolves alt lvl.55.
@W.H.V.
7 жыл бұрын
BTW, you can't catch dragonite in the wild
@pythagorastheorem1366
7 жыл бұрын
Kaveevin Dragonite evolves? Damn, adds the evolution of Dragonite, cool!!
@thestrangecaseofharryhinde9473
7 жыл бұрын
Dragonair evolves into dragonite
@ItsYoBoiHarry
5 жыл бұрын
GAME SHARK
@PremachandranEK
5 жыл бұрын
Correct
Incoming "Game Theory" did this already. Hey guys, ... I did this YEARS AGO! Also 0:45
@kaireves4994
8 жыл бұрын
true
@rottentomato9683
8 жыл бұрын
Idc I like your content a lot more
@kaireves4994
8 жыл бұрын
Good theory Proto!
@tokitowairaito3004
8 жыл бұрын
I always thought that Gary's Raticate was stolen by that same TR member, and Gary just didn't bother trying to help it. Or when you beat him in battle he left to go heal his Pokemon and never bothered coming back.
@Edgewing11
8 жыл бұрын
Yet you reupload it right after game theory does it? That's still using current events to your advantage regardless of whether or not you did it before
I never believed that Raticate died. Blue needed stronger Pokemon, so I always thought he boxed him and others
@TankEngine75
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@Woozy_Official
2 жыл бұрын
ikr
@NatetheNintendofan
Жыл бұрын
@@Woozy_Official lol team rocket
@robbyplayz1250
3 ай бұрын
breh he only had 5 pokemon
Raticate isn't even useable for pokemon tower. It makes sense he wouldn't use it when there are stronger pokemon that do everything a raticate could ever do and better.
@8BitPinkiePie
8 жыл бұрын
except in Gen 1 Raticate was a viable Pokémon thanks to Gen 1s broken mechanics
@nykita427
8 жыл бұрын
+RoboGameBoy64 critical hits?
@camronreynosa4958
8 жыл бұрын
everything exept... drumroll SUPER FANG
@chillyspacd9334
8 жыл бұрын
No, actually, his highest level pokemon in the tower is a Level 25, and it's his starter. Ratata learns Super Fang at level 28, and a Raticate, which is what it is, learns Super gang at Level 34! This disproves what you say. GG.
@cadenchampion3244
8 жыл бұрын
Aren't those all basic moves? What good are they against ghost types?
What if Blue is playing a Nuzlocke?
@wispthevulpix7857
8 жыл бұрын
I've been lied to! XD
@salat6154
7 жыл бұрын
That would mean that he already lost in the first match (assuming you won)
@galaxyblaster7467
6 жыл бұрын
Diablo Mask A Nuzlocke with a full party? Might be too easy.
@raiyanchowdhury7898
5 жыл бұрын
Diablo Mask
@gengarvenom
3 жыл бұрын
Then he lost at the first battle
Blue's Raticate went missing in Lavender town, specifically in the tower. (where ghost types are). So when he saw that Raticate could do nothing, he released it or is storing in the pc. My opinion
@dragonoidcollosus
8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the raticate would have just been a waste of space (or just a punching bag) since it didn't know anything like foresight (idk if that was in the gen 1 games, but I am assuming it is). Blue could have been planning on capturing other pokemon and have those fill Raticate's position.
@itsspyro4388
8 жыл бұрын
TDC-StatX Yeah
@GVGINU
8 жыл бұрын
+TDC-StatX That move wasn't in the Gen 1 games.
@dragonoidcollosus
8 жыл бұрын
+The Game Idea Guy Oh, my bad
@GVGINU
8 жыл бұрын
TDC-StatX I was just telling you because you said you didn't know, figured it would be helpful.
I think this makes Raticate's fate even sadder. Instead of dying in the arms of his caring trainer. It just gets booted out of the team with other Pokemon Gary caught that he deems "weak" or just caught for the pokedex.
I find it funny people say that game theory did it first when they didn't and the theory isn't relatively new anyway I'm fairly certain this has been discussed on a channels saying the same thing.
@wohdasunleashed
8 жыл бұрын
(on phone) meant to say on a bunch of other channels.
@wohdasunleashed
8 жыл бұрын
(on phone) meant to say on a bunch of other channels.
@Cstewy28
8 жыл бұрын
He actually did this theory 4 years ago
@wohdasunleashed
8 жыл бұрын
cstewy28 I know? I said I find it funny people say game theory did it first when they didnt. It isnt a new theory regardless as I'm not even sure who covered it.
God Dangit Proto! It's 2 A.M. and I'm watching youtube and you got me to start over and start playing Leaf Green again.
Oak helping his grandson would be considered cheating?!? Are you aware of how much help your character receives throughout your journey?!? Some people just flat out give you TMs and HMs.
I have only recently started watching your pokemon theories and I have to say that I love them. You do a great job.
Search for biggest theories at Unova, that region is full of myths. So, one of the theories is: ...... Who was Alder's deceased first partner?
@VannyBeumer
7 ай бұрын
Larvesta. We know this.
Thank you for this, Proto.
Proto > Game Theory
@pokefanmelody
7 жыл бұрын
DTinaglia Studios Eyy, I didn't know you watched ProtoMario! Cool! I love your stop-motions!
im tired of seeing people stealing your theories
@ProtoMario
8 жыл бұрын
No one owns a theory, but I do appreciate the sentiments.
@ProtoMario
8 жыл бұрын
Justin Morciglio Sept 5 2012 4 years ago kzread.info/dash/bejne/eWmet9aonK_Zibg.html Check your facts child.
@Slick.D
8 жыл бұрын
Savage.
@dravenhidalgo6562
8 жыл бұрын
Bull he just stole the theory from where matpat got it so stop wining
@ProtoMario
8 жыл бұрын
Tiflotion TV So mattpatt stole it? Cool thanks for clearing that up fan boy.
Proto, dude... you make me laugh so hard using that picture of Matt Patt or whatever his name is. Proto you're one of my only subscriptions I actually trust and makes me laugh hard.
59 people didn't pay attention to this video or research Proto's old videos.
I remember watching this YEARS ago. Thanks for sending a link again, I forgot all about this video.
I was about to say "where'd you get the idea?" then I remembered this YEARS ago, but I still love this theory
aye your awesome protomario
Pokemon DO die when you fight them to death In nuzlockes
@guyfierischlong
8 жыл бұрын
I know its random, but my litleo has been the real mvp in a no heal and exp share run.
@teamawesomeness7137
8 жыл бұрын
someone,with a channel icon of a latias.
@Phosphorea
8 жыл бұрын
+Team Awesomeness yeah?
@teamawesomeness7137
8 жыл бұрын
Alphaline i own a latias in my pokemon alpha sapphire. latias is a beautiful pokemon. my latias knows two moves that are beautiful in contests,surf and dive.
@Phosphorea
8 жыл бұрын
Team Awesomeness I also like Latias for it's extra bulk (from latios')
Congrats on 500k proto!
Nice video proto
This comment section perfectly describes why I don't like GT anymore. I had no problem with MatPat or GT up until the Rosalina being Peach's daughter theory. Ever since, people take his theories like they're all true, and give other video game theorists shit for 'copying' MatPat just because they want to give their thoughts on a popular topic in gaming. It's like they think MatPat is on top of the world and anyone who does anything the smallest bit similar to him is a 'rip off' of him. It makes no sense whatsoever.
@duykhangtran4406
5 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the annoying "sans" theory
I'm also subbed to Game Theory, but guys leave Proto alone! This was one of his first theories. He may have been "inspired" to revisit this theory from MatPat, but he still has his rights.
Your theories are great wish to see new ones sooner
How do you make these sort of videos? Like this sort of format where you can move pictures around?
1:38 as famous as that scene is in the manga for what its depicting i recommend using a different example for that arbok never died. since its head was preserved it eventually regrew its body. i would recommend the scene of giovanni freezing and crushing to magmars with his cloyster or pryce losing two of his lapras to an environmental accident.
good job proto
BUT PROTO... You're my favorite theorist and your personal stories are hilarious.
Good job proto
Do you have VODs of your streaming? I'd be interested to see the glitches you mentioned.
@ProtoMario
8 жыл бұрын
www.twitch.tv/protomario/profile/highlights
@kaetoc
8 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
Blue constantly says how many Pokémon he has. It's simple. He grabs his Raticate from his PC.
Blue was always a bit too cocky, glad we got to destroy him repeatedly while grinding to lv100
in Yellow, Gary/Blue/Green/(Profanity) removed his Raticate AND Fearow in his team...apparently no one gives a fuck about his Fearow...
Just thought, him catching a Cubone and having an empty slot might prove his Raticate did die. He went to the tower while it was dying to bury it, maybe was told at the Pokemon Centre there was nothing they could do. Before it's death he caught Cubone, Cubone was sent to Bill's PC, Raticate died after that but before you meet Blue.
The Manga example: The only dead one is the zombie Psyduck. At least the picture wasn't just the Arbok. Good job!
So Proto, I like this theory. And this fits in with another theory from one of your old friends (I'm not sure if you are still friends), Gnoggin. His theory of Blue being a part of Team Rocket would fit with this theory very elegantly. Wouldn't you agree?
@wohdasunleashed
8 жыл бұрын
it does a bit actually. and yes I'm sure they are friends(saw gnoggin tweet to him about his latest sun and moon theory)
Blue gave his Rattata to a little boy born in Johto. We came to know that boy as Youngster Joey.
Notice something, your rival is always one step up of you (except in the two first fights and after defeating the eight gym leader), when you have one badge he has the same as you, when you have 2 badges he has 6, when you go to the Pokémon tower he has more Pokémon than you (yes except when you trade your chosen starter Pokémon with other two people and/or consoles or emulator/s ), when you go to the Pokémon Tower he has a Cubone, when you have 6 badges he has 8, when you have all gym badges he was only going to Pokémon League and you beat Lance he already was the champion of the Pokémon League for some seconds. Analyzing that he was not a member of Team Rocket as I thought he just uses traded Pokémon. That's the key for supreme victory against him along with don't overtraining your Pokémon because that was his little mistake. He overtrained that much that when you beated him before earning the seventh gym badge the Green Badge, Green their Pokémon didn't learn too much experience after defeating Giovanni. To learn to use your badges correctly you should go to the Sea Cottage in Cerulean City and ask the only man there how works some badge.
Hey Proto! Make a theory of why Pokémon aren't very effective against humans (or vice-versa) using game, anime or manga references.
@ProtoMario
8 жыл бұрын
Already did
@XavierZara
8 жыл бұрын
+ProtoMario *Looks it up* Bravo. Keep up the good work
@booquafious2179
8 жыл бұрын
+ProtoMario lol
@booquafious2179
8 жыл бұрын
+ProtoMario hey proto why are pokemon pokemon
@orekihoutarou6107
8 жыл бұрын
+Manuel Villanueva pokemon are pokemon because pokemon poke mon.
hey proto, do you think ash will be able to beat kalos league? i think he got a pretty solid team so far ^^
oak- ''you didn't take proper care of your pokemon'' I think this is why raticate vanished.
It is possible that Blue already had 6 pokemon when he went to the Pokemon Tower in Lavender Town and Cubone was deposited into his PC as soon as it was caught, but the question still remains as Blue didn't have the Silph Scope at that time.
10:18 Hold up, wait, hold up wait. Flex on you trainers Machamp FLEX!!!!
Blue's Raticate also ends up switched to a Ratatta, so there may be some sort of connection there. It could simply be due to how the game handles opponents' team data. As for having caught Cubone, he didn't need to manually deposit it since that's done automatically if you have a full roster of Pokemon on hand. You might not actually need a silph scope to see it either since its not a ghost, that's probably just an oversight.
nice theory. makes me more interested in this raticate.
Pokemon are as much data as anything else in the pokemon world. They're essentially animals. With the advanced technology of the Pokemon World, they can be transformed into data but this doesn't they're naturally data. And if Pokemon hunt and consume each other in the wild, why could a pokemon not kill another one in battle?
I used raticate all the time in the original game taught it thunderbolt and thunder to go along with super fang and hyper fang at level 63 my raticate took out the first three pokemon that lorilie put out before I called it back
Oh hey im early, Nice Recreation Proto ^-^ Oh also, I remember a while ago you said you would make a yoshi is a pokemon theory but it never happened, how come?
I agree with you proto. When I heard this theory I thought it was illogical to be honest. I didn't know how but it just seemed off to me hahaha.
But Proto...could you bring back the whiny "But Proto!" voice?
a good pokemon trainer always carries extra revives and potions ;)
When are you gonna make more war story video?
outstanding as Alway
Personally i find your theory better proto good job
pokemon theorie: how can you release pokemon from the pc box?
The most easy answer is the Team Rocket Grunt saying him one of his Pokémon if he doesn't help his boss. So Green threw his weakest Pokémon and pretended that it was it's most beloved Pokémon and said pretending to cry: "Kill my Pokémon! I don't have another chance!" After all he is Oak's grandson it is Oak's grandson he is a very good strategist and fighter, he learns another language easily (Now I got why it's name in the original dub of the animated series is Shigeru, because it is like him); but he hates traditions, doesn't value others' people efforts and doesn't like his grandpa's work.
Whats your take on the games having no dark type gyms?
Blue didn’t necessarily get surf the exact same way as Red. There’s every chance he got it earlier in one way or another
Proto you should make a theory about ashs father being the narrator, theres alot of things to support it. I already know what you wanna say "But keviin I like talking about the game" but its a very interesting theory I think you should go over
Maybe blue went to lavender town and battled the same grunt that killed marowak with the stun baton and used it on Raticate
Hi Proto, If there is a way for wild Pokemon to evolve earlier, then it might be possible that other trainers would be able to replicate similar process. Just that this process is unknown to the our character.
I subscribe to the theory that Blue is buddys with Team Rocket, and its feasible that they may have lent and equipped him with certain pokemon at certain times. Raticate I beleive is the kind of pokemon that would be Team Rocket standard issue. I do still enjoy the thought that Blues Raticate didn't survive the SS.Anne encounter, even though you are probably right.
So if pokemon are data and you can deposit them in a pc does that make it a digimon?
The lvl 15 raticate is on yellow version, not red and blue which I'm sure most people are referring to
No, Pokemon are only "data" in the sense of in-game data, but in-universe, they are living. breathing creatures that get converted into data whenever they are inside a Poke Ball or PC box. Therefore, releasing them really is releasing them back into the wild. MissingNo. is not a canonical Pokemon because it is a glitch. Nobody in the games ever makes any mention of its existence and the only way to find it is by doing so on accident or finding out how from sources outside the games themselves
Protomario the Swagger😎😎
Since when was releasing a pokemon equivalent to deleting it?
protoMario I have a question why do all nurse joys look the same also officer Jenny's are they just clones or are they really family
Proto I have a Theory I was hoping you could make a video on.Pokemon evolve or hatch differently depending on where they are like in Kanto in the game you can't get pichu or like eevees evolutions evolving differently
a team rocket member probably let him borrow his Raticate. After the battle, Gary gave it back to the rocket grunt.
+ProtoMario Hey Proto can we make a hypothesis that the Raticate that was traded to ash for his butterfree was actually the same raticate that was owned by blue? Maybe Blue made a trade with the gentleman trainer for an exeggcute??? When the gentleman trainer realized how weak the raticate actually was and wasnt getting his bang for his buck he tried to trade it away on the S.S. Anne...
I still say he was using Raticate as an HM slave for Cut, and when he was in an area where he didn't need Cut, he wouldn't need it.
Proto this theory was awesome . BUT PROTO!!!! when Gary/Blue come from bill's house he must have faced the team rockets grunts and defeated them and when they offer him to be part of team rocket he might have accepted it.
FROM GOOGLE When Lance ordered his Dragonite to attack the guy in the rocket base, I'm pretty sure the guy being questioned ran backwards in panic, rather than actually being hit by the Hyper Beam. Lance was threatening that he would have Dragonite use Hyper Beam if he didn't get the answers he wanted.
@ProtoMario
8 жыл бұрын
But nothing happened to the House...?
You may think he works for team rocket but now that we have Pokemon origins we see he snatches it from team rocket
Just one question. Why would the bush be there if Blue/Gary cut it down? That's some great soil!
I just thought of something. in the anime, ash almost traded his butterfree for a raticate on the S.S. Anne. Gary's raticate was last seen on the s.s. Anne. I know the anime and games are different, obviously, but that almost seems like the pokemon company stoking the flames of suspicion.
I don't know if you still do pokemon theories but I have one saying the st. Anne is the same ship as the abandoned ship in the hoenn region between dewford and slateport
Okay here's my question: If everyone has to start with one of the three regional pokemon, how is it that people don't have a starter pokemon in their party?
To be fair, game theory sucks now. He's just money hungry now.
@sparksthedaytrader9606
8 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@AwesomeX
8 жыл бұрын
Yep
@TheJudefam
8 жыл бұрын
+Jessica Vaux KZread Red, quantity over quality videos, sponsored theories which aren't really theories, things like that
@CABRALFAN27
6 жыл бұрын
"KZread Red" So what? It's not like he's moved all his videos over there, and he does what he does every week, so it's fair game if he wants to make a bit of extra money. "Quantity over quality videos" Again, he does have to make theories every week; It's literally his job. As he's said multiple times, that, combined with franchises with decades worth of lore, leads to the occasional slip up. "Sponsored theories that aren't really theories" A: Sponsorship isn't inherently bad, nor is wanting to make more money off of what you do (Also, he's also fully disclosed whenever an episode is sponsored, which is more than some can say). B: Not really theories? How do you mean? I know he occasionally does episodes like the one about the Pokemon Multiverse that are already mostly spelled out in the game, but in most cases, he at least puts his own twist on things, or goes somewhere new with that information. And most of those aren't even sponsored, IIRC. And yes, I know this is a necropost on a year old video, boday is the first time I saw this video, so I don't really care.
I liked this video. It was great
Blue just simply put his Raticate in the PC. Man, how did people get so dark in the first place?
I think he’s just trying to finish the Pokédex that’s why he says over 40 kinds of Pokémon and that’s also why he caught cubone even though he never used it
I think he actually boxxed his Raticate,there are many things why Blue/Green boxxed/trade 1:He trade it for a Kadabra so that he can get Alakazam 2: Released 3: he just probably used it as a HM slave(but this is highly unlikely because there was no mention of HM slaves anywhere in any Pokemon games because according to Bulbapedia,it is a fan term)
what about the quote, "At least I can faint mine" Said bye Gary in Fire Red & Leaf Green?
blue could have got through the walkways where the guards, he just didn't need the bottled water/ or in fr/lg flask, and if he did he could have just rang oak to get him to speak to the guard
One thing people don't really mention is the gentleman on the SS anne in the anime/cartoon When Ash trades his Butterfree for Raticate. Then Decides he would rather have his butterfree. Isn't it quite ironic that it would also be Raticate? Perhaps The raticate we see this man use was actually Gary's Raticate Because it was the "Only" Raticate on the ship. If we put 2 and 2 together I think it's very possible that raticate didn't disappear, but rather was traded to one of the Gentleman Trainers aboard. There were quite a few trainers with growlithe in the game.
@mixelon1429
7 жыл бұрын
Homika Anime is not the same as the Games so Gary never had a Raticate
People, do you all not realize NOT EVERYONE WATCHES GAME THEORISTS, and more importantly, Proto did this topic long before today, if you watched the video instead of bitching you'd know it's an updated video for better quality.
Why are people saying he stole the theory from game theorist? It's just dumb proto did this before game theorist and every Pokemon theorist has probably done this theory before, and if your going to say proto stole from game theory just watch his video one of his points was "stolen" from another video. But it probably wasn't a coincidence that he made this right after game theorists video.
hey, i just couldn´t help but notice that you said doduo but you put a pic. of dodrio.
I remember that story when in lavender town, gary's raticate is dead.
But Proto! What was Green doing in the Pokemon Tower anyway?
How can you explain about blue origins
I know this is old video but he has three flying pokemon. Charizard,Pidgeot and Gyarados. So why he cant use two normal types.
@chandelureftw989
6 жыл бұрын
Tugsu Master maybe because flying types are better than normal types, so he didnt mention it?
@chandelureftw989
6 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, nice icon.
Didn't he also have a kadabra at one point that evolved into alakazam which can only be done by trading. He probably traded said raticate as well
Hmm maybe Red didn't kill his Raticate, but he somehow lost to someone else or Raticate was poisoned during one of his battles and died, and this affected him to be stronger
I feel like he wouldn't have another because it's more difficult to train like six Pokemon by the second gym
Holy shit! A theory about something actually NOT dead?