The unfortunate, poisoned dog on the documentary was part of a study undertaken in America in the 1950's or 60's. Scientists were researching the effects of 1080 poison on canines. They filmed the study, and part of the footage was supplied to us, and it appeared in Poisoning Paradise. Yes - the footage is disturbing. It's nothing less than an atrocity - what is taking place in New Zealand - with regard to aerial 1080 poison use. The aerial drops are increasing, and the Government and its poisoning agencies have declared they intend to continue aerial poison drops until 2050, and until they've killed every "pest". Their dream is called Predator Free 2050. Lets hope they come to their senses before there's nothing left to "save"..

@jordynclark8259

5 жыл бұрын

What do you mean by 'before there's nothing left to save"? The very goal, and the effect, of the 1080 drops is to prevent predator populations from overrunning native wildlife. Many different scientific reports show that 1080 drops positively impact bird populations. Why spout meaningless rhetoric?

@whoaretheyhiding798

5 жыл бұрын

Jordyn you are a shill. Your youtube account is a phony sock puppet one.

@angelawrence4449

5 жыл бұрын

Im a New Zealander. I am very upset about this bs. Please tell me how I can be involved to help this stop!

@gedofgont1006

3 жыл бұрын

My God! The parallels between 1080 policy and NZ's COVID-19 'containment' measures are breathtaking. The only difference this time is it's people who are being targeted.

@marypoole6064

3 жыл бұрын

All Fluorides are Toxic Poison//Even Natural occuring Calcium Fluorie//Calcium Fluoride crippling and blinding children in India by Mercola//Sodium Fluoride is ni Coumadin//Warfarin etc.///Wake Up People//Fluoride causes Cancer etc.

Ok, still no response from Clyde Graf to my challenge on the validity of his claim that this film has actually "won 4 international environmental awards". I wonder if Mr Graf thinks that ignoring the challenge means he can keep telling the lie. Some facts: 1. On the GrafBoys "Poisoning Paradise" page (www.thegrafboys.org/poisoning-paradise.html) there is a list of the film festivals where the film has been entered with various claims of "Selected" and "Nominated". Note that the majority of the films festivals were scams operated by Binda Singh (see: forums.creativecow.net/thread/24/926994). 2. "Winner" is claimed for one of those scam festivals (International Film Festival Ireland) so how can it be a winner? 3. The other "Winner" (yes, that makes TWO so far) is for the Reel Earth festival. A search through that website reveals no such win. Indeed this is the ONLY film festival listed on the Graf web page that has a viable link and lists many other winners dating back to 2010. So in the space of a few lines the tally of "Winner" awards has gone from four to two to zero. I'll let the FACTS speak for themselves in the question of who is telling the lies.

@o0SallyM0o

7 жыл бұрын

Tad juvenile aren't you Duncan?

@jakeholland8083

7 жыл бұрын

I think it is a fair call: follow the evidence and you can find they paid to enter a film festival or two (where every film received a complementary award). It really shows the extent of the Grafs' character... There are two types of people: the ones that follow the evidence and exclude the bullshit (like Duncan) and the ones that just love the echo chamber they belong to (like the Grafs).

so much Gratitude for all those involved in the making of this..Thankyou.

Thanks for posting. Very informative. DOC are disgraceful!

@pwigzell

9 жыл бұрын

Robert Ueberfeldt NZ's reputation is well underway of being exposed worldwide. Maybe then with no one coming here things will change. Dumping poison all over the place isn't the answer, its the lazy, cheap excuse DOC want to use. Clean Green 100% pure bullshit is what we have become.

@pwigzell

9 жыл бұрын

Sue Boyde haha.. ok what ever. In my view anyone who thinks dropping poison all over the land is the lousy one but hey, who cares what I think. I'll refrain from the name calling though, that's a pro 1080 supporters job :)

This doco was bought to my attention from RCR radio. The fact that it is banned in most countries but used widely in NZ is startling.

@TheGrafBoys

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for taking a look. Please also watch some of the other videos on this platform, or on the www.tv-wild.com website. There's plenty of concerning trends that nz is choosing to continue. Cheers

Some beautiful footage here and clear evidence of our native species ingesting this horrendous poison.

Poisoning Paradise - Ecocide New Zealand was entered into the Environment and Ecology category at the Swansea Bay Film Festival, in the UK. "We anticipated resistance to the film in this country" said Clyde Graf, who co-produced - directed the film with his brother Steve, "however, we underestimated just how strong that resistance would be." The Graf's believe the film will raise awareness around the world, and will attract more focused attention into the use of 1080 poison in New Zealand. "We might finally get some unclouded, international scrutiny into this obscene practice of mass animal cruelty, and contamination that, up until now, has been concealed by the walls of our forests." Mr. Graf went on to say. Poisoning Paradise is awaiting nomination in 7 other international film festivals.

@oscarmoon9284

9 жыл бұрын

Sue Boyde I believe, people who advocate and accept 1080 as a effective way to deal with our pests are the real traitors, traitors to our environment and to our native birds.

@pwigzell

9 жыл бұрын

Well said Oscar. Anyone who thinks chucking poison all over the place is good needs to seriously take a look at themselves.

I'm so shocked that I've only just heard about this in NZ. I knew about it in Australia and protested, but so much worse in NZ! Thank you for this awareness! I will promote this video and awareness. This insane cruelty has to stop!

Sad to see this has so few views. I commend you Graf lads for having the courage to go out there and see the horrors of 1080 first hand. There's parts of this country I deliberately avoid because of 1080, which is rather sad and frustrating. I'm amazed at how irresponsible and inconsiderate DOC are. I've read of two occasions when hikers have had 1080 rain down on them, and also witnessed a mass spraying operation, with no warning signs on a well used track whatsoever. There were actually two school groups walking up towards the area being sprayed.

I have just come back from a camping trip on Canaan Downs, an area where 1080 has been regularly applied. The birdlife was outstanding: Tits, Tui/Bellbirds, Fantails - all the usual suspects plus the Robins and Parakeets as well as the Moreporks. The huge number of insect eaters indicates that the insect population is doing well. I participated in an ongoing survey of Falcons in Kaiangaroa Forest, in the North Island, again an area that was subject to regular 1080 drops. We saw 25 different Falcons in a four day period, another indicator that the birdlife was doing well. Too many people only see what they want to see, or not to see.

@federalreservebrown2507

3 жыл бұрын

you're LYING.

@t47328

3 жыл бұрын

@@federalreservebrown2507 Am I indeed? And what am I lying about?

@federalreservebrown2507

3 жыл бұрын

@@t47328 being pro 1080 I would just subject you to immense violence as you cannot be reasoned with, since I cannot get to you I'll effort to destroy NZs economy instead by promoting Let Us Spray

@t47328

3 жыл бұрын

@@federalreservebrown2507 What a fascinating insight into the mentality of so many of the anti - 1080 people. You show two major characteristics: A tendency to threaten violence when someone disagrees with you; and an inability to communicate effectively. Do you personally intend to spray your piss all over NZ? It would take a while. Obviously you know nothing about this country and our environment.

@ruwidassanayake7966

2 жыл бұрын

@@federalreservebrown2507 He is not lying. Most of their facts in thiss video are fake. 1080 can't even kill birds, do some research

This video triggered a memory i have which is linked to the topic. In 2005 while on outward bound in the marlborough sounds, we stayed the night on Tawhitinui island and were tasked with capturing a handful (about 7 or 8) Weka using nets. I rem ed mber asking the guy from DOC why we were doing it and he replied that they were poisoning the entire island and everything would die so they needed to take a couple weka off the island to re-introduce later. these assholes were knowingly killing a huge proportion of the Weka population and knew it would happen!!!

@pwollerman

7 жыл бұрын

So WHY were hey poisoning on the island? Obviously not for fun. Did you not think to ask? The depth of knowledge in 2005 was nothing like the level they have attained now - the 1080 process is fine-tuned to minimise by-kill, but as in any process accidents and unexpected outcomes will still happen, but there's now exact drops using GPS, modified baits that are much less toxic, coloured green to discourage birds and with added deer-repellant as a sop to the hunters who believe their sport is more important that our endemic wildlife and far better management and technologies. 1080 is water-soluble and breaks down rapidly - but does accumulate in mammals, creating a hazard of secondary poisoning to dogs who are not properly controlled. All that has come from having to learn about 1080 because it is banned in most countries with a mammalian native population - New Zealand is one of very few places that do not, 80 million years developing in isolation so there is very little knowledge available from elsewhere. And yet the principal objectors still base the bulk of their arguments on incidents 5, 10 or even 15 years ago when some bad outcomes were created - heavily dosed carrot baits being dumped in absurd quantities, etc. And worse, DOC management was stupid enough to try to cover it up - creating a huge hump in public opinion to overcome - and an easy target for anyone wishing to paint them as liars. But it is no longer relevant - although a good story because it plays directly to people's prejudices. No longer is there any excuse for that sort of stuff because the science has been advanced and techniques vastly improved as a result of experimentation, observation and drawing lessons to improve their technologies and techniques as well as management. The biggest problem now is that the ministry charged with spending our tax dollars on conservation is not only underfunded but undermined by ill-informed self-interested parties. That would be OK, but species WILL BECOME EXTINCT while their delaying tactics hinder DOC fulfilling their obligations to New Zealanders and the planet And Kiwis used to practical, fair-minded folk who cared for wildlife - I guess that was in the past before even back-country boys and women fell for the commercial interests working to undermine DOC. Thanks, Guys, I look forward to telling my grandchildren why they can never hear the sort of Dawn Chorus I fell in love with as a child, but they are free to go out and shoot deer because the place is overrun with them. Something we can all be proud of there...

@Ever8eliever

3 жыл бұрын

Assholes are necessary. The NZ DOC dastards are dangerous, evil, draconian.

I couldn't even watch half this documentary. It was very disturbing for me to know that some people are so evil. Get gangs of people to go out and pick up the bait and dump it onthe lawn of the prime minister!

@t47328

4 жыл бұрын

The evil ones are the makers of this documentary who don't even have a passing resemblance to the truth and facts in their documentary. That is why TV in NZ won't show it.

Why won't one of the New Zealand TV channels show this documentary ? It needs to be broadcast on 60 minutes or just put on in the evening sometime.

@t47328

4 жыл бұрын

Because there is absolutely no evidence to show that the claims that the Graf documentary makes are correct. There are literally hundreds of peer reviewed studies that show that 1080 is effective and safe for nz natives. As a judge said in a recent court case: "facts are not beaten by unsubstantiated opinion".

@duduz3450

3 жыл бұрын

@@t47328 man, this 1080 poison is killing NZ wildlife, and it is also making people life a horror.

@davidandrew2610

3 жыл бұрын

@@t47328 if its so safe feed it to your animals or you could feed it to your kids and watch the horror show unfold

@t47328

3 жыл бұрын

@@duduz3450 It is not killing NZ wildlife. It is killing introduced mammalian predators. That is why it is so effective in NZ. We have no native mammalian predators.

@t47328

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidandrew2610 I wouldn't feed it directly to my animals and children because it is a poison. However, the manner in which it is used in NZ means that it is safe and will only kill the targeted species, which are mammalian predators, that are not native to NZ. Only one person has died from 1080 poisoning in NZ, and that was due to their own stupidity - mistaking poison laced peanut butter for their spread on toast peanut butter. The real horror show would be if we did not use 1080 and then had to watch our native species become extinct.

I don't feel it's safe anymore to buy petfood from New Zealand after watching this video.

@richarddods221

5 жыл бұрын

Save animals from animal cruelty in New Zealand; 1080 poison (Sodium monofluroacetate) is being spread over our mountains, farms, forests and rivers. Sign and share and share... www.thepetitionsite.com/794/295/417/stop-the-drops-save-animals-from-torturous-1080-poison-deaths/ #inhumane #ecocide #EugenieSage #JacindaArdern

made me sad, then made me angry, then made me cry! thanks for this info! Kia kaha Papatuanuku! God bless!

Can anybody tell me what environmental awards were won? I can't seem to find any references to them.

And posted to Google+ the world is learning , thanks again Brothers .

Many comments ridcule the content of this video as biased towards the anti 1080 camp. However if 1080 is "safe" please explain why is it banned in so much of the world?

This needs to be shared!

Follow the money . . .

Great document, many thanks for it. In France we imagine that Kiwi people are some of the more implicated in earth about the ecological issues, your document show something very different. It's crazy that gouvernemental organisation could dump poison on privates properties and kill domectics animals. In France government will have very big trouble with population impacted with such issue. Please never give up with this horrible problem, I would like to visit again New Zealand and watch natives animals in the wild clean nature.

@TheGrafBoys

10 жыл бұрын

Yvon, please pass this documentary around to your friends and contacts. We need help exposing what is going on in NZ. It is very hard to get past the propaganda the government departments keep publishing. Many thanks.

@YvonZill

10 жыл бұрын

TheGrafBoys As soon I watch your video, I share it using Facebook and Google + , I get reply from Australian friends since the post. Do you have lauch woldwide petition to stop droping 1080 ?

@YvonZill

10 жыл бұрын

Yvon Zill There is a link to a Kiwi petition a found to Stop aerial drop :www.change.org/fr/p%C3%A9titions/to-ban-aerial-1080-poison-drops-in-new-zealand-stop-aerial-1080-drops?

@richarddods221

8 жыл бұрын

+Yvon Zill Save animals from animal cruelty in New Zealand; 1080 poison (Sodium monofluroacetate) is being spread over our mountains, farms, forests and rivers. Watch, sign and share: www.thepetitionsite.com/794/295/417/stop-the-drops-save-animals-from-torturous-1080-poison-deaths/ :(

@themadcollecter4988

5 жыл бұрын

There are some enlightened people in NZ, but we are definitely a minority! Most Kiwis continue to support this insane & evil practice because the Government says it's good & we all know Governments never lie.. LOL :(

This is sickening. WTH is the matter w the government?

@davidmathew603

Жыл бұрын

My thought exactly after watching this. Ive been brainwashed for too long.

New Zealand is a wonderfully scenic country and it is a pleasure living here - it is a great shame that it has this blot on its clean, green, image.

@bgvanners

5 жыл бұрын

NZ has never been clean and green. I moved here 35 years ago and was appalled at the lack of enviromental care.

@themadcollecter4988

5 жыл бұрын

bgvanners Absolutely agree... I've lived here 50 years & while it may LOOK green, it's been a polluted poisoned mess since the 1950's when the wholesale use of pesticides, artificial fertilizers, chemicals & dangerous medical drugs became the norm! 1080 is just another drop in the bucket!

@starsista001

3 жыл бұрын

It has been many years since New Zealand could be said to be clean and green, that 100% pure is a lie, too! It is time to remove our government! It truly doesn't matter whether it is National or Labour, the politicians are simply puppets for the New World Order! Our water has been ruined by 1080 drops, it is not just animals and birds.

@FalconfromRF

2 жыл бұрын

@@themadcollecter4988 not just 1080, i heard farmers use alphachloralose, proven to kill all avifauna in affected area. I think now New Zealanders must unite against alphachloralose, banning or rescticting 1080 fades into the background

@t47328

Жыл бұрын

@@FalconfromRF In New Zealand alphachloralose is commonly used for the control of sparrows, pigeons, blackbirds, mynas and magpies. Alphachloralose is a narcotic and when used in concentrations of less than 2.5% it anaesthetises birds rather than kills them. Comatose birds are then collected and the pest species humanely killed. Non-target species can be revived by placing them in

Why isn't these video s shown on new Zealand television

@lynnevoyle

5 жыл бұрын

Brian August who controls mainstream media, including Maori Trlevision?

@chelseacameron6494

5 жыл бұрын

media will be put out off business from the government should they expose this to the nation

@leishaclaire20

5 жыл бұрын

There must be a way to get it out there..... More people watching so a better understanding will help majorly.

@shamanpathways2982

5 жыл бұрын

Nope people who against 1080 Poison are crazy hippy terrorist.....according to media

@MrNOOBZORO

5 жыл бұрын

because its stupid are not backed by evidence

One submitter reported that 2 employees..had been seriously exposed to 1080 [and both had developed cancer]..Only by carrying out an epidemiological study involving follow up of the historical workforce would it be possible to assess the significance of such a claim” “I personally know of two employees of the local Pest Board who used to hand mix 1080 with carrot baits; one died at 38 with a brain tumour, and one developed serious cancer” People of Oxford, Alabama, have been fighting for years to close down the production of [1080]..In 17 households duing the past 10 years, 21 members of their families died of cancer, cardiac irregularities and unexplained symptoms. Our family has lost 2 young men, both trained as pest control students..both died from..cancer..their manager..spoke up before his recent death to cancer of his real concern with 1080 and human contact. From 22 of his early students, 7 had died midlife” 1080 poison: science and facts By Dr Jo Pollard (BSc (Hons, PhD) Journal of Toxicology: Clinical ToxicologyVolume 34, Issue 6, 1996 OI:10.3109/15563659609013833Chih-Hsien Chia, Kuan-Wen Chena*, Shih-Huang Chana, Ming-Ho Wua & Jeng-Jong Huanga pages 707-712 Publishing models and article dates explained Published online: 25 Sep 2008 Abstract Background: The diagnosis of sodium monofluoroacetate intoxication in humans is usually based on a history of ingestion and clinical findings. Although several previous reports have described the clinical course and outcome of patients who ingested this drug, prognostic indicators of short-term survival are not available. Methods: A retrospective study of 38 consecutive cases of sodium monofluoroacetate poisoning at the National Cheng Kung University Hospital, 1988-1993, to analyze the clinical findings and to predict mortality. Results: Seven of 38 patients (18%) died. The most common symptom was nausea or vomiting (74%). The most frequent ECG finding was nonspecific ST-T and T wave abnormalities (72%). Hypocalcemia (42%) and hypokalemia (65%) were the common electrolyte abnormalities. The clinical and laboratory characteristics were compared for the survival and mortality groups. Significant differences in hypotension, respiratory rate, pulse rate, creatinine, potassium, elevated alanine aminotransferase, pH, PC02, APACHE II score, and subjective respiratory distress were noted. Discriminant analysis identified hypotension, increased serum creatinine, and decreased pH as the most important predictors of mortality, with sensitivity of 86% and specificity of 96%. Conclusions: Hypotension and the early onset of metabolic acidosis and increased serum creatinine are associated with poor short-term survival.

wow! unbelievable. Can't believe this video only has 72k views, and under 500 comments in 7 YEARS!!!!!. What can be done to stop this outrageous poisoning of the animals in NZ???? SICK. i couldn't even watch it.

@TheGrafBoys

4 жыл бұрын

It's likely the algorithms are being manipulated to ensure the film gets less views, locally and internationally. Thanks for the feedback

@pooheadispoppingout

3 жыл бұрын

Sodium fluoroacetate/1080, was discovered by German military chemists in World War II" Criminal organizations/departments/councils/private corporation's: NZ Government/ all parties. EPA DOC New Zealand Conservation Authority (NZCA) PCR, Pest Control Research Animal Control Products Ltd VCS, Crown-owned company Selwyn District Council The West Coast Regional Council Tull Chemical Company Conspiring Criminals: Eugenie Sage Lou Sanson Chris Ingle Malcolm Thomas Andrew Robb Randal Beal Dean Chrystal Charles Wigley. Took me 5 minutes to find this info from articles & compile it.

What environmental awards has this documentary won? I can't find any records of them.

Shared to the rest of the world ,,, Thanks brothers Graf

great stuff! good doco. This stuff needs to be banned!

Hey, is there anywhere where I would be able to purchase this doco?

@TheGrafBoys

10 жыл бұрын

Howdy. You can get the doco from www.thegrafboys.org Cheers!

No to 1080 use in NZ

@soko4710

6 жыл бұрын

No to anti-1080 clowns in NZ

Many thanks for your work guys.

I've just posted this to my Gab wall and two NZ groups with over 1 million members so hope that helps. Sent off an email to a senator to demand Australia stop importing potentially poisoned NZ produce. Sorry NZ but something has to make the poisonous NZ govt sit up and do something about this. Actually I'm not sorry, because this has been going on for years and years and years and we are only seeing this now?! We have 1080 drops for wild dogs. We have been told it only affects dogs. I used to live in an area with drops,. They would always warn us to keep our dogs tied up or on leashes. I don't recall seeing any dead animals on my property. But maybe they have been lying to us too.

@TheGrafBoys

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, the poisoning in New Zealand is continuing, and becoming more widespread. It's a big industry here. :(

@annie9099

3 ай бұрын

@@TheGrafBoys Do you think there is something more sinister to this than just 'a big industry'? Like a satanic conspiracy to destroy the NZ environment, the economy, NZ? I mean, I can't understand why they are doing it just to get rid of possums which have one offspring a year'. We have heaps of possums in Australia and they are protected. They do no damage at all to the environment. I've woken up to them on the bottom of my bed after they got through my open window. I love them.

Thanks for sharing, so much respect for your cause :) Im new to 1080 but its a bad bad thing.

so hunting/trapping/bountys is bad but 1080 is good?

1080 is rat poison (rodenticide). From wikipedia: "The effectiveness of sodium fluoroacetate as a rodenticide was reported in 1942.[4] The name "1080" refers to the catalog number of the poison, which became its brand name."

Awesome mahi Graf boyz much respect #WATERIZLIFE #LETZBAN1080

Well it's 2020, and the "game" is not "over", as this scientist was confident it would be by 2019. Furthermore, with the use of technology delivery methods have greatly improved, and are continuing to do so. DOC no longer uses small carrot baits, almost no carrot baits in aerial drops at all, except in some open areas to target rabbits. They are conducting studies with a new and promising toxin known as PAPP. Aerial drops of 1080 are highly precise operations. The amount of 1080 delivered per hectare has reduced from over 20kg/ha in the mid-70s to just 1-2kg/ha today. Deer repellant has been added to the cereal baits, which has significantly reduced bycatch. Focusing on the cost of aerial vs ground 1080 use/trapping, is simply sensationalist. Roughly 95% of Fiordland, for instance, has never felt the weight of a human foot. Ground methods are simply not practical or even possible in many of NZs regions. This video, whilst I believe was made with good intention, is quite sensationalist. My personal opinion on 1080 was formed by openly looking at all the evidence available, and there does very much appear to be a net benefit to the use of 1080 via the current methods, which have certainly improved in leaps and bounds since the start of 1080 use, or even since the making of this film in 2009. Here's a 2014 film kzread.info/dash/bejne/q4eYu9CGYLfMYbw.html&ab_channel=OSPRI; still 6 years old, but more recent than this one, and is more even in its approach. My advice is to take these videos in, then delve into various recent studies - both government-run and independent - with other concrete and anecdotal evidence, and judge from an overall position. Just remember, no one is saying 1080 is "good". No one. But it is the best we have at the moment. If we do nothing, our endemic birdlife will be completely gone in short order.

thank you sharing all over facebook

I'm watching this in 1080 resolution...

Most of what “authorities” get involved in will sort itself out if left alone.

Doc planing the biggest drop of 1080poison in the world at the end of August 2017

I am not a New Zealander, but I feel I have to make a comment here about what is happening in your country. What we are seeing here is terrifying. Alien species have been introduced to the islands, some accidentally, some deliberately. Our species response when we realise the error that ocurred is to launch into a program of what is quite simply genocide. We have to understand that if anyone thinks this activity is legitimate, then you must intrinsically agree with the holocaust process in World War 2. Furthermore, such individuals should see that the introduction of the European to the islands is in essence the same phenomena, where we have drastically altered the ecology and natural processes that would have occurred. Then by nature, it quickly follows that the extermination of Europeans descendants in New Zealand is entirely appropriate for the sake of the indigineous Maori. It is also fundamental that every animal, plant, or living thing, has the basic right to life, procreation, and survival. Indigineous or not. These are very basic rules of nature. Nature itself will take care of any abberations. It is ceertainly not the right of our species to play God with other species lives, and decide whether they are worthy of existence. Lets be quite honest here, which species is the greatest 'pest' on this planet ?

@TheGrafBoys

10 жыл бұрын

An excellent statement, and observation! I wish the folk in New Zealand could see outside the square.

@TheGrafBoys

10 жыл бұрын

Mikey Watson Mikey - you are presenting DoC's argument very well! No sound research - just anecdote! 1080 is a deadly poison - pesticide - insecticide. It is unnecessary, and causes more harm than good. Just check the science website www.1080poison.co.nz the evidence proving 1080 poison is a failure is clear.

@TheGrafBoys

10 жыл бұрын

We have travelled to many of New Zealand's forests - most of them, in fact. We've filmed the poisoned and non-poisoned. On all occasions, the non-poisoned forests are better for birdlife. In some cases the poisoned ones are a disaster. Just look at the number of kea that are dying after aerial drops. Robins are decimated. Other small insectivorous birds are also negatively affected by the pesticide - insecticide (that also causes secondary poisoning). The best way to manage wild animals is to target them directly, not poison the entire ecosystem. Dr Jan Wright (PCE) flew us to Wellington as part of her "investigation" into 1080. She stated, in front of her staff, and us, that the reason she was doing her report (just after ERMA had done theirs) was because of Poisoning Paradise. People can see the truth, rather than hear the industry scientists try to say what isn't really true. If a scientist speaks out against 1080 in NZ, they lose their job. Once again, check out www.1080science.co.nz

@zeissOholic

9 жыл бұрын

+Mark Edwards "Then by nature, it quickly follows that the extermination of Europeans descendants in New Zealand is entirely appropriate for the sake of the indigineous Maori." Somewhat extreme don't you think? The Maoris killed off the original indigineous inhabitants in NZ which were the Moriori. Should the Maori descendants in NZ be exterminated for the sake of the long dead Moriori?

@markedwards9247

9 жыл бұрын

zeissOholic Yes, the statement I made was a bit extreme, and ridiculous. But that was the point I was trying to make. That poisoning the ground with 1080 seems to be cracking a nut with a sledgehammer. I am not there, I am not a New Zealander, and therefore I respectfully bow to opposing arguments like those posed here by Mikey Watson, who obviously has more knowledge on the subject than I could ever have. My angst stems from the fact that non-indigineous species have been introduced by humans who have come to the islands, in many cases deliberately introduced, only to find that at some later date, when humans have decided they are unwanted, they are exterminated wholesale. Even animals we have labelled as pests have as equal a right to live and proliferate as we do. I wonder how the human race would feel if dinosaurs were to make a miraculous re-appearance, and assign our species as unwanted pests ?

New Zealand has many archaic practices- deep sea trolling is another but not poisonous at least. Many narrow-minded rulers in this country.

@MegaDavyk

6 жыл бұрын

The bastards should be made to drink it.

@themadcollecter4988

5 жыл бұрын

Yes many NZers are simply boorish stupid brain addled TV controlled morons, so continue to support their psychotic Government & their vested interests who are doing this :(

@Helterskelter4

5 жыл бұрын

@@themadcollecter4988 You are extremely correct, I've never encountered a nation with such a high percentage of morons. I am a kiwi, but having lived in Europe for 20 years, you can really see how retarded a huge percentage of the population is. It's actually shocking.

@loveitall88

5 жыл бұрын

follow the money

@mikepetergumball8337

5 жыл бұрын

@@Helterskelter4 Well The police are being Armed . go fuck with the owners of NZ now and see what happens.

10 minutes is all i could watch, the horror, i grew up in Rangiwahia deep in Manuwatu, on my horse over mountains to Mangaweka stay in the hut 10yrs old loved the bush. Question what effects does it have on rongoa ? Is it safe to pick rongoa ? Thanks in advance....i thort i have seen dad kill every animal , but at least he was humane about it , I'm pretty strong but fuck i appreciate this but couldnt stomach it , i believe you , WTF , SPCA so must be in conflict of intrest. like stalemate, how do we put the govt on checkmate. I have shared this to massive groups, I think I watch more on you tube than TV , thank you for this will pass it on....unbelievable carnage. Mauri Ora Ka Mau te wehi GrafBoys xx

"A wandering dog has been blamed for the deaths of at least five kiwi in what is believed to be a series of attacks in the Ōkaihau area over the last fortnight, adding to an increasingly grim tally of Kiwi deaths across Northland. The dead birds were found in the Signals Rd area, off Waiare Rd, opposite the Ōkaihau golf course, which provides access to a number of lifestyle properties and farms backing on to the Aratoro Conservation Area, which is connected by an almost unbroken corridor of bush to Northland's biggest native forest, Puketi. Department of Conservation spokeswoman Abigail Monteith confirmed the deaths of five kiwi were being investigated. Details were still limited, but the injuries were consistent with dog attacks, she said, adding that the department was saddened by the loss of the birds. Monteith said dog owners had a responsibility to keep their pets under control at all" And, dogs don't kill Kiwi?

@TheGrafBoys

3 жыл бұрын

Test the birds for poisons. It's easy for DOC to blame dogs where poisons are used.

@t47328

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGrafBoys Why test for poison when it's obviously dog kill. Have you ever gotten any of these birds tested?

@t47328

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheGrafBoys By the way: No 1080 drops in or around Okaiho area.

The DOC hierarchy and the politicians who support them on 1080 should be imprisoned for what they're doing to our beautiful country and it's wildlife.

whats happening in 2018?

From 1990 to 2018, the Department of Conservation recorded 345 kiwi killed by dogs in the North Island alone, with a further 86 likely to have been killed by dogs. Recent studies have shown dogs and ferrets are the main predator of adult kiwi around the country said Jess Scrimgeour, who oversees DOC’s Kiwi Recovery Group. Free avian aversion training sessions are held around New Zealand for dogs that will be taken to places where they could encounter kiwi, and dogs that live on land near kiwi habitats. “The better we are doing with predator control, the more contact there will be between kiwi and domestic pets,” Carson said. Needs to be more of it.

Comments and observations from Bruce Reid and Don Sullivan who have been hunting for the South Island Kokako for the last 5 years. Independent of DOC and the government: The scent of damp leaf-litter is thick in the air, already dense with the chattering of kākā, pīwakawaka and other native birds. The one near Saxon Point was quite amazing with what it hit on it. Not kōkako yet, but kiwi, lots of deer, even a takahe,” Bruce says. Not only that, but over the five years he and Don have been searching, they have been recording almost in real-time the effects of DOC pest control programmes. “From the early cameras we put out two years ago, we're not seeing anywhere near the same number of rats or mice - because they did a 1080 drop, and it’s amazing to see the difference,” he says. “That one camera at Saxon, I didn’t see a single rodent. I keep feeding that data to DOC. It definitely has had an effect.”

I had no idea this ecocide existed until I read Terri Irwin's book "Steve & Me" page 107. "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." ― Mahatma Gandhi. I'm truly in shock. Many animals are such agreeable friends―they ask no questions, they pass no criticisms. Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened

@t47328

4 жыл бұрын

Try loving a possum, mustelid or rodent and persuading them not to eat our native wildlife.

@tanzirhossain9973

4 жыл бұрын

You are truly enlightened Mam. I do respect you.

@tanzirhossain9973

4 жыл бұрын

@@t47328 Who's wildlife? You won them as your property? Like toys?

@t47328

4 жыл бұрын

@@tanzirhossain9973 Are you aware of the problems we have in this country? Introduced species are destroying our native fauna and flora, and unless they are combated then we lose many of bird and other species.

@tanzirhossain9973

4 жыл бұрын

@@t47328 are you aware that all of your thinking about nativism and desire to make environment unchanged for eternity is not realistic? have you been aware that your desire can cost other life? have you been aware that invasion biology may not be truth at all? have you been aware that nonnative abiotic component like 1080 you put to kill non native species is another contradictory? have you been aware that those powerful elite can fabricated truth like brainwashing people to kill by using their pesticides to gain more money?have you been aware that children in your country learn killing and that effect can goes to their psychology? have you been aware the newest articles concerning about invasive biology took different roots? Do not be offended, once I was just like you, it took couple of years to know myself and what's wrong and right.

What a cruel system it is! Shame on your government!

@richarddods221

5 жыл бұрын

Save animals from animal cruelty in New Zealand; 1080 poison (Sodium monofluroacetate) is being spread over our mountains, farms, forests and rivers. Sign and share and share... www.thepetitionsite.com/794/295/417/stop-the-drops-save-animals-from-torturous-1080-poison-deaths/ #inhumane #ecocide #EugenieSage #JacindaArdern

How the hell do these people sleep at night, absolutely sticking to think some believe that this is OK

Do you have anything to say about the information regarding the lethal dose of 1080?

@TheGrafBoys

10 жыл бұрын

Lethal doses per Ha (1 Ha = 2.2 acres) Based on standard 3kg of bait per Ha - (0.15% 1080) Species LD50 doses/Ha Dogs 2,571 Sheep 321 Deer 113 Polo Horses** 23 Possums (target) 1,250 Humans 22.5 Wekas 563 Ducks 333 LD50 = dose per Kg body weight to have a 50% kill risk Source: LD50 dosage/Kg: C T Eason, Table 4: Accute oral toxicology of 1080 from "Technical Review of Sodium Monofluoroacetate (1080) toxicology" Animal Health Board and Landcare Research NZ Ltd, 2002 ** LD50 - R Eisler , "Sodium monofluoroacetate (1080) hazards to fish, wildlife and invertebrates: a synoptic review", Patuxent Environmental Science Center, U.S. National Biological Service, Laurel, MD 20708; 1995

@uga290

10 жыл бұрын

Do you have any evidence from New Zealand based scientists?

@TheGrafBoys

10 жыл бұрын

The above information is from Landcare Research - NZ based scientists.

@uga290

10 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for your time.

@uga290

10 жыл бұрын

Thanks

can you tell me how these mamals contact to the 1080.

@TheGrafBoys

7 жыл бұрын

The 1080 poison is mixed with the cereal food baits, and dropped across the forests (and waterways). The animals then eat the baits and after several hours of suffering, they die. Their bodies are then poisonous to anything that eats them. Cheers

@richardl7006

7 жыл бұрын

but i think kiwi and another native birds will also easy to eat this as there food too.cheers

@richarddods221

5 жыл бұрын

Yes - Birds & 1080 Poison kzread.info/dash/bejne/aH-Jq5SEnKebqJM.html

2018 and this 1080 shit is killing everything.

Do you guys not have government paid stalkers and trappers? this 1080 is bloody insane. good luck.

@TheGrafBoys

10 жыл бұрын

Yes, New Zealand has some of the best hunters and trappers in the world! However, dropping poison into the forests by helicopter is easy, and make a few people a lot of money. The New Zealand Government owns the factory that imports the poison into New Zealand, so it's an uphill battle

@oilcrash1

9 жыл бұрын

TheGrafBoys The New Zealand Government owns the factory that imports the poison into New Zealand" Give us some names, there must be a company list of the 'people' who are responsible for making this stuff? Lets out them.

@arnamcavoy

9 жыл бұрын

oilcrash1 www.business.govt.nz/companies/app/ui/pages/companies/441007/shareholdings?backurl=%2Fcompanies%2Fapp%2Fui%2Fpages%2Fcompanies%2Fsearch%3Fmode%3Dstandard%26type%3Dentities%26q%3Danimal%2520control%2520products

@richarddods8079

9 жыл бұрын

Robert Ueberfeldt Dr Jo Pollard (BSc (Hons, PhD) “1080 is toxic to species of all forms of life from microbes to plants, insects, birds and humans. In mammals, it causes birth defects, reduced fertility, damage to reproductive organs and other organs including the brain and heart.” www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC1105/S00067/1080-poison-science-and-facts.htm www.1080science.co.nz

The Department of Conservation should be ashamed. This defies belief. Surely there must be corruption involved. Don't you guys have an RSPCA equivalent.

@TheGrafBoys

10 жыл бұрын

The RSPCA here in NZ is, in my opinion, caught up in this and restricted, due to funding issues (from government departments) Cheers.

@pania1953

8 жыл бұрын

+TheGrafBoys This needs to be taken to The Hague for crimes against humanity, and all living things, which in effect is criminal negligence to the Eco system. Has this been brought to the attention of Gareth Morgan? Some how/someway, we must help the RSPCA with funds to fight this! Perhaps Gareth may see it worthy of supporting the RSPCA to take Court action. Perhaps we need to get these videos into the schools. Potentially we could have the youngest peace protesters giving this attention across the world stage. ( Out of this could come a Nobel Peace prize nomination/winner. [Apologies if that is casually insensitive to some people] .) This is just horrible, almost unbearable to watch some much loved domestic animals suffer needlessly! What we don't see we can only imagine the magnitude of cruel deaths of the innocent bird and animal life's natural habitat. Has Maori Television been approached to show the films? Iwi groups should be up in arms about this. It all ties in with protecting the whenua and waterways and rivers. It's unbelievable that four films have won international awards recognition, yet the N.Z. Government is putting a block on any films going to air here. This wreaks of corruption John Key!!! We need Erina Brockervich here to spearhead our national protests.

@gnomechild4459

8 жыл бұрын

+nitrostateteam i hope you realise that this is basically extremist propaganda aimed at making misinformed people scared. these morons like to hunt and to protect their interest they want to stop the killing of deer, which are pests and are being killed by the poison.

@jakeholland8083

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you Gnome Child, your reply has summed this whole issue up very nicely. I've seen an interview with Clyde Graf where he says that the Department of Conservation should lose all of their funding! This is not a man who loves NZ species

@themadcollecter4988

5 жыл бұрын

Yes HUGE CORRUPTION involved... the NZ Government has used ratepayers & taxpayers money to set up factories to produce the poisonous baits & now that TULL CHEMICALS that manufacture the 1080 in the USA has closed down, no doubt our Govt will now invest more taxpayers money into a new plant to manufacture the poison. They also appoint themselves to the boards of these companies that are being operated as privately owned, despite being publicly funded! :(

Has there been any changes yet by the govt

@TheGrafBoys

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. The govt is using more poison, across increasing forests across new Zealand. The govt has also reduced its restrictions on using the poison. In summary, more poison with less restrictions, unfortunately

Very political, very one sided, very emotive.

@os2841

5 жыл бұрын

What's one sided about animals dying needlessly and painfully? Let's see you injest one of these poison pills and see how you like it. You'll be very "emotive" about it too, trust me.

@jordynclark8259

5 жыл бұрын

N. S. There is so much more to the argument than that. This video is very one sided in its approach to the 1080 debate, it seems incapable of intellectual discussion and instead prefers to twist and manipulate facts to suit the author's own intent. I have nothing against people who oppose 1080 for ethical reasons but intentional miscommunication and denial of science is where I take offence.

@t47328

4 жыл бұрын

@matt15071981 They have many times. Also published their results in national media: In non controlled areas nesting success rates are 0-20%, in controlled areas nesting success rates are higher that 60%.

Sharing in USA

@richarddods221

5 жыл бұрын

A great petition to share also Vickie: Save animals from animal cruelty in New Zealand; 1080 poison (Sodium monofluroacetate) is being spread over our mountains, farms, forests and rivers. Sign and share and share... www.thepetitionsite.com/794/295/417/stop-the-drops-save-animals-from-torturous-1080-poison-deaths/ #inhumane #ecocide #EugenieSage #JacindaArdern

@mereemery4132

3 жыл бұрын

Rubbish

How can these people live with themselves ban 1080

@janettecoleman1714

4 жыл бұрын

They DONT CARE

A survey of North Island kōkako following an aerial 1080 predator control operation in the Mamaku Ranges has revealed 71 pairs - up from 44 pairs in 2018

if i ever came across 1080 while out in the bush in my back yard, id collect it up and pay a visit to the local doc workers homes and throw it in their back yards. see how they like it.

Illuminati

Can anyone help me with verifying the environmental awards mentioned?

@TheGrafBoys

5 жыл бұрын

Here's some press releases for the time ... www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU1008/S00263/poisoning-paradise-wins-uk-award.htm and this one ... www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU1108/S00167/1080-poison-documentary-wins-in-japan.htm and this one ... www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU1009/S00139/1080-film-wins-in-ireland.htm and this one ... and it won this one, after this press release ... www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU1107/S00401/1080-poison-film-continues-to-lead.htm

@ReVoLuTioNaRYMiNDeD

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys. A few of us are currently debating the Wake up NZ facebook page which is pumping out the pro 1080 posts. I mentioned the Ireland award and they came back with "It was a press release from the Graf brothers." Maybe check out the page and drop some info, quite a few Kiwis follow it. Appreciate your hard work on this issue

The people who authorized this, should have abit put in there water tank.

@jordynclark8259

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, well done, you are a fantastic human specimen!

this is terrifying and so bad, how dare you?

Additionally contractors spreading this aren't doing it properly causing huge concentrations. Its also being dumped on town drinking water sources. What's lacking however are viable alternatives that can be deployed. Reality is all our bird life will otherwise be wiped out.

This is just disgusting. How can the NZ government possibly keep defending this. If the NZ government can drop deadly poison why can’t they drop foodstuffs laced with a contraceptive? This was very distressing to watch and I commend the film makers who had to record these distressing scenes.

Are there any particular areas in NZ where wild deer is safe to eat?

@TheGrafBoys

9 жыл бұрын

There are some areas where 1080 poison hasn't been dropped. But the Department of Conservation and TBFree are poisoning more and more forested land, so it's harder and harder to find unpoisoned areas.

@TheGrafBoys

9 жыл бұрын

***** Good stuff, Chris. Thanks for getting the word out there.

@catebuller7371

9 жыл бұрын

Sue Boyde There are warning notices everywhere after a drop telling you not to eat animals from the area, these are put up by DoC and TBFrees contractors.

@richarddods8079

9 жыл бұрын

Sue Boyde Dr Jo Pollard (BSc (Hons, PhD) “1080 is toxic to species of all forms of life from microbes to plants, insects, birds and humans. In mammals, it causes birth defects, reduced fertility, damage to reproductive organs and other organs including the brain and heart.” www.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC1105/S00067/1080-poison-science-and-facts.htm www.1080science.co.nz

@pwigzell

9 жыл бұрын

Get up on the tops, tussock areas, high country because DOC don't go there with poison, no bush generally means safe and its the only places I hunt for meat these days.

#1 Question for anything that makes no sense is who makes the money from supplying and selling 1080 ?

@godj007

8 жыл бұрын

+Nordon Hamsay exactly, to understand most of the problems in this world you just have to "follow the money". I'm a new zealander but our government is like many others & many are after profits no matter the cost

@tazlett60

8 жыл бұрын

+godj007 Some things we just can't fix, I'm on to the moon cover up !!

@duncancunningham5101

8 жыл бұрын

+godj007 So can you please tell us exactly what has been found when someone has done this "follow the money" I read about so much? I ask as I have yet to see anyone publish facts - you know: numbers, people, organisations, dates, times, places that actually mean something in the real world. Oh, wait you just say "follow the money" to sound like you know something when actually you haven't provided any evidence that you do.

@tazlett60

8 жыл бұрын

Well Duncan,You refer to Us, So what organisation are you with? ,Good to see you are keeping an open mind,and not behaving like an obedient servant and not questioning things, Yes, Duncan it is all about money, this comes with all the benefit's of power and monopoly, Media to Schooling we are all conditioned with money. Who loses money or jobs when something stops,like cancer? It's the big pharmaceutical companies.Same as 1080. 94% of all made goes to NZ,

@duncancunningham5101

8 жыл бұрын

+Nordon Hamsay When I referred to "us" I meant the people reading this discussion thread. I am not with any organisation, I think and speak for myself. I note that your response has none of the specifics that might make the bleating assertion of "follow the money" any more credible. So again I ask for: numbers, people, organisations, dates, times, places that actually mean something in the real world. Oh, and documented evidence, the sort that would stand up in a court of law.

The download link isn't working. No good in that.

@TheGrafBoys

6 жыл бұрын

How do you mean, Bobby?

@os2841

5 жыл бұрын

This is youtube. It doesn't let you download.

I love our native birds and species. I don't care so much for possums, stoats and rats. Hunters aren't so humane either. This video is so outdated, read the independent commissioners report into the use of 1080 and you will understand it is the only effective tool to save our native birds and species.

@donmcclumpha6217

5 жыл бұрын

www.pce.parliament.nz/publications/evaluating-the-use-of-1080-predators-poisons-and-silent-forests

Thanks for this mates! This 1080 poisoning has got to stop! Everything in Nature is connected- I sometimes wonder why it’s so hard for some people to understand that it seeps into the ground via rain, enters the soil, plants, us. It’s so cruel to the animals. I can’t believe we choose to do this.

Come to the whirinaki Forest witness doc biggest 1080drop in the world 2017 end of August

Shot clyde, time for a protest i think.

Speak to James Cameron.He bought out half of the country a year back.

IMDB give this doco 9/10, so I guess people like Barbara Duckett know better than them www.imdb.com/title/tt1588425/

@pwigzell

9 жыл бұрын

Sue Boyde I'd have to disagree, some might argue that it is in fact DOC that is committing treason by its very actions killing the protected species and doing it in such a way that would be shocking to most other 'civilized' nations on the planet. The information presented by DOC is extremely bias towards their views. I have never seen or heard of a film or interview on TV involving DOC that had representation from both sides of the argument. It's believe what they tell us or nothing and that isn't very democratic. I say spread the word about 1080 world wide, because then it might actually stop.

@stewartshand9335

9 жыл бұрын

Sue Boyde Please put up the proof of your accusations instead of just mouthing off. You have never been there or done that.

@stewartshand9335

9 жыл бұрын

Paul wigzell Maybe you need to go to Spec Savers first. Go back and read my post and you will see it is aimed at Sue Boyde. As as far as experience with 1080, maybe a lot more than you.

@pwigzell

9 жыл бұрын

Haha, sorry mate, I am on the defensive coz you normally get attacked for saying anything against the use of 1080. Deleted, I'll go and hang my head in shame

@stewartshand9335

9 жыл бұрын

Paul wigzell All Good .. Paul try 1080 eyewitness on facebook

Can I use this video to start a petition to ban 1080 please?

@richarddods221

5 жыл бұрын

Go for it Lynne - here's a great petition to sign and share and share... www.thepetitionsite.com/794/295/417/stop-the-drops-save-animals-from-torturous-1080-poison-deaths/ #inhumane #ecocide #EugenieSage #JacindaArdern

A lot of false propaganda in this film. 1080 is not the most pleasant death for whatever eats it but there is nothing else, either drop 1080 or lose our native birds. Deer have become a pest in the NZ bush again as little as any hunter wants to admit it

Also, we never hear how much money the government is giving TB Free, it's a private company so isn't open to an OIA.

Absolutely preposterous....just sickening, this is really hard to believe.

Can’t bloody share it?? Why’s that??

@TheGrafBoys

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that. Have you tried copying the link? Push the "share" button, then click on "copy link", and then paste it on your message.

How do we stop this

@TheGrafBoys

3 жыл бұрын

It's the government that is doing it, so its pretty difficult to even get them to listen to the facts.

@nicostruyf1305

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGrafBoys well they need a lesson then

@t47328

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGrafBoys They have been listening to the facts - scientifically proven facts - that is why they continue with it.

ANZPP party have pledged to get rid of this cruel and needless poison. Vote Billy TK!💪💪🍻

@t47328

3 жыл бұрын

Polling at less than 1% I don't think we have to worry about Billy and his assorted band of tin foil hat wearing sycophantic followers.

@gedofgont1006

3 жыл бұрын

@@t47328 Seems to me he's got more integrity in his little finger than the entire current government. Ardern is so obviously a shill for her globalist overlords it's positively embarrassing. The woman is as fake as that wider-than-her-face smile.

@t47328

3 жыл бұрын

@@gedofgont1006 A man of integrity? He is using every conspiracy he can find in a desperate attempt to enter politics. He has no semblance of evidence for any of them, particularly the 1080 debate. Having Jamie Lee Ross as your off sider also doesn't help when trying to claim the moral high ground. If Ardern was pandering to the global overlords, whoever they may be, there would have been open borders and a damn sight more illness and death than there has been in NZ. Because she cares for this country we are far better off than just about any other country.

@gedofgont1006

3 жыл бұрын

@@t47328 I don't agree with you, but I respect your point of view. I guess time will tell....🤝

@t47328

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed on both points.@@gedofgont1006

This needs to be shown to everyone in New Zealand. Of import is that pilots and airports need to be watched.

This is outrageous! Where is Jacinta Adern?

@Ever8eliever

3 жыл бұрын

Jacinta? Swotting up on her "Top Socialist Subversion Tactics Volume Six", Chris.

This was harrowing but it needs to be watched. Of course we also know now in 2021 that the govt has had additional motives for the systematic poisoning of our land, our living creatures, our waterways and our people. Depopulation, the removal of people off the land and into high density urban areas so as to be easier to control and surveil, the total economic ruin of agricultural and farming family-run small and medium businesses, widespread legislative changes which make it nearly impossible for people who rely on the land to live, to do this without having to use chemicals and gm seeds from bayer/monsanto - this ALL ties in with the 1080 POISON. They have almost destroyed any option of people living off the land, being resourceful, feeding our families, and being independent, with pride. Once the people are dependant on the corrupt govt for food, water and shelter, they can control us completely. We need to wake up and start fighting back against this tyranny. Turn off your tvs - take a walk in the bush and open your eyes, your mind and your heart.

@t47328

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, open your eyes and see that where 1080 has not been used the native birdlife is almost non-existent and in controlled areas it is thriving. Given that only one person in NZ has died from 1080 poisoning (his fault) I can't see the population control being very effective.

Not Clean Green!

well in that case BAN salt and vinegar chips and its brother 1080.

Is there a way that this can legally can be shown in public ! Public events ? Where can I get a hard copy ?

@t47328

3 жыл бұрын

It can be shown in public at anytime. The problem is that because it is a documentary it is supposed to be factual and also present both sides of the subject. This video and their others do neither.

@andezbox

3 жыл бұрын

@@t47328 ok .I know I am not an expert when it comes to science but would beg to differ regarding your comment on facts when people such as quinn e whiting okeefe has provided Factual evidence and exposed the issues which are ignored by "non experts the real experts in doc are in fact unqualified managers that tell their expert scientist what to do then pick and choose which material they wish to expose and which they wish to hide. But anyone would try to paint it black especially one who supports a department that let's management control what happens even when their own expert scientists advise more substantial testing is needed . Unless you have as much experience as quinn okeefe I would say you are not qualified to claim that there were no facts in this film. But you may be right to have docs side shared on this doc do it was balanced. Which leads us to this equation. When will doc ever get in the public arena for a civilised conversation. We all know the answer to that. Never. Quinn would eat docs "experts" up for morning tea. Truth is advasive action is at hand. Why else would the west coast council pull out of pcr. Because there is a rat in the kitchen. And rats like to take cover when they see experts who are not controlled by managers.

@t47328

3 жыл бұрын

@@andezbox Quin o'keefe has not actually come up with any facts to support their premise. All they say is that 1080 is bad and that other countries do not use it without explaining why NZ does. They have not come up with solutions for our problems or come up with useable facts that can be laid against the very thorough research and science that has been conducted in NZ that shows that 1080 is a safe and effective way of managing our way out of a serious situation. The West Coast Council has pulled out of the factory for various reasons, none of which has to do with 1080 control. They still support and are actively involved in the 1080 programme on the West Coast. You are adding 2 plus 2 to make 5.

@andezbox

3 жыл бұрын

@@t47328 alternative humaine non toxin methods have been proven successful by doc themselves and there are documents that prove this. But I guess the same reason that doc stole "predator free nz" off a kiwi who shared his interlectual property with doc would marry up with people such as yourself acting as if quinn okeefe has not supplied evidence when he clearly has the experience to show that doc is using our environment as a mass guinea pig experiment. But anyway ok then. Why does doc use 1080 when they have tried to delete all alternatives to 1080 even after they themselves have documents to prove there are more economical humaine methods. Or have you not seen these reports? If not ... I wonder why? But proof is in the pudding. We use a deadly poision "orillion msds"(legal document)"world health org class 1a"extremly hazard ious and pour hundreds of tons all over our native forests every few months. Don't worry, it's safe as eating a pack of salt n vinagar chips.dont worry FBI did have concerns that it could be used as a weapon of mass destruction yet nz accumulates it and has 80-90 percent of the world's supply. It's ok we know how to handle it so it's safe. Ask Mathew obrien.

@andezbox

3 жыл бұрын

@@t47328 call it what you will. Usually when things get too hot people get out of the fire. Wcc smelt a rat burning so the got out cause they had a gut feeling that this fire will keep the stink on them for a long time if the continue investing in a dangerous hazard. Why else has it taken over a year and still the site is contained if someone else has not already gone on in to clean the place up before they can investigate. Yep I add 1 and 1 up and it comes to 4 and I can see why the sum is not correct even after I push the right buttons.

OH MY GOD !! WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU PEOPLE LET THOSE ANIMALS SUFFER FOR THREE DAYS AND NIGHTS, SCREAMING AND CRYING, AND WRITHING IN THE AGONIES OF HELL ?????? “”SOMEONE.......PLEASE......EXPLAIN .....NOW.....”YOUR REASONS FOR ALLOWING THAT ??” BLOODY NORA !! IN MY MIND, THERE IS NO EXPLANATION THAT COMES TO MIND, THATS GOOD ENOUGH....😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

Saving the Kokako, a so far successful project , and guess what. 1080 is a part of that success: "Translocation and intensive predator control by DOC, including ground control and the use of biodegradable 1080 in aerial operations in large rugged areas, had been vital to rebuilding the species, she said".

Can't understand where you pro 1080 people are coming from at all. Bottom line is is it needs to go and needs to go now.

@jordynclark8259

5 жыл бұрын

We are coming from the angle that native wildlife needs to be protected from invasive predators that are harming biodiversity. Where are you coming from?

@whoaretheyhiding798

5 жыл бұрын

How do you prevent the native wildlife from ingesting it? Do you phone them first before a drop and warn them to stay away? Do you realise how ridiculous you sound? It's like saying the best way to deflea a dog is to kill it.

This not humane AT ALL....I CAN'T WATCH THIS TORTURE. I appreciate the awareness anyways.

@t47328

3 жыл бұрын

Are you referring to the images of introduced mammals killing our native flora and fauna?

God knows what it is doing to our water systems. Cancer rates in New Zealand are quite high.

The reason that TV in NZ won't show it is because of the huge bias, by the documentary makers. In fact, the bias is so profound that it goes over the edge into propaganda. A good documentary shows both sides of the story. This documentary doesn't even pretend to show the other side of the 1080 debate. The other side is that: there are literally hundreds of peer reviewed studies showing that 1080 is safe and is an effective tool for the survival of our species. Without 1080 our natural habitat and inhabitants would be in far worse straits than they already are.

Such cruelty and deception.

@t47328

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the videos are extraordinarily deceptive and full of lies. The cruelty is in the brothers trying to stop a tool that is vital in the ongoing fight against introduced predators.

Further to my comment below, do tourists coming to NZ get a warning not to touch these pellets or dying birds/animals should they find them when walking in the countryside? So much of NZ’s economy is based on tourism that this just beggars belief.

@TheGrafBoys

5 жыл бұрын

Tourists get no warning. They not only get no warning, they are treated with contempt, as is shown in this video clip where the Department of Conservation dropped 1080 poison across the waterways tourists were drinking from, and directly around them while camping in the summer of 2017... kzread.info/dash/bejne/X6aL0qOYnrm1p6g.html

@t47328

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheGrafBoys 1080 is broken down extremely quickly in waer. To suffer 1080 poisoning from our water you would need to drink thousands of litres of water. There has only been one death in NZ from 1080 and that was a guy who ate the peanut butter that he had laced with 1080. Far more people have been killed accidentally by hunters. Perhaps we should ban hunting.

@t47328

4 жыл бұрын

@@paintbrush8743 It's called sub lethal for a reason. Thousands of water samples taken after a drop show that the level of 1080 in the water after a drop would mean you need to drink thousands of litres to fall ill. Are you saying that 1080 doesn't kill animals. After a sub lethal dose the residue poison is excreted from the animal the same as any other poison. You are more likely to die from mercury poising as that is found in large quantities, naturally, in our bush.