PoE Complete Lore Series: The Envoy and The Maven (Echoes of the Atlas)

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Now that we have met the Maven, and learned she is just a child who has been drawn to the Atlas - what do we know about her past? The Envoy's past? And what can we expect in our future?
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  • @verzeihturncoat27
    @verzeihturncoat273 жыл бұрын

    Zana: DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT YOU HAVE JUST DONE?! Me, a gladiator following the wish from a higher born being that asked me to fight for her amusement in an arena: "My job?"

  • @liandario7450

    @liandario7450

    3 жыл бұрын

    you prolly dont give a shit but if you're bored like me during the covid times then you can stream all of the new movies on instaflixxer. Been streaming with my brother for the last few days xD

  • @cadethomas142

    @cadethomas142

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Lian Dario Yup, have been watching on instaflixxer for since december myself :)

  • @carlemory6188

    @carlemory6188

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Lian Dario definitely, I've been using InstaFlixxer for since november myself :)

  • @TaCo0oCaT

    @TaCo0oCaT

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@liandario7450 xD

  • @TaCo0oCaT

    @TaCo0oCaT

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cadethomas142 :)

  • @Yakez42
    @Yakez423 жыл бұрын

    Next expansion endgame arena would be called: Absence of Satisfaction and Logic. In this arena boss called Crim Gillsen would play with us minigame, where you need to pick ever multiplying number of splinters in limited time frame.

  • @danielbr93

    @danielbr93

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I hate it.

  • @Pshaurk

    @Pshaurk

    3 жыл бұрын

    After you defeat Crim Gillsen you are afflicted with Crim's affliction. All items automatically shatter to the smallest possible splinters on touch and need to be picked up individually.

  • @ZephytheDragon

    @ZephytheDragon

    9 ай бұрын

    Don't worry, that's now called Trial of the Ancestors league.

  • @leo2543
    @leo25433 жыл бұрын

    Oh boi, poe 1's exile is going to be poe 2 final boss

  • @comraddisc2783

    @comraddisc2783

    3 жыл бұрын

    PoE 1's exile is going to become the eldritch being to be destroyed later.

  • @Minastir1

    @Minastir1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Would be a nice callback to diablo 1 -> 2.

  • @SKKaelth

    @SKKaelth

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wasnt Sirus and conquerors already the poe1's exile tho

  • @lukeluckynblue1873

    @lukeluckynblue1873

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SKKaelth ye

  • @xenogard
    @xenogard3 жыл бұрын

    New Lore video uploaded: "It howls, Nomad. It weeps and howls and cries to be witnessed." Noodle: "WITNESS ME!" Me: "This has been most entertaining.. LIFE PROLONG!"

  • @Dharengo
    @Dharengo9 ай бұрын

    The real mystery here is the Exiles' ability to tango with forces greater than even gods, despite being mortals of early double digits in years. Could it be simply an amalgamation of all the powers from various different sources that have been developed and evolved over time? Virtue gems, the pantheon, ascension, influence, corruption, the list goes on. Is it all these smaller powers combined that lets us defeat these entities?

  • @bobSeigar
    @bobSeigar3 жыл бұрын

    You know, I never gave a shit about the lore until I stumbled upon these videos. Did not realize it was so deep.

  • @Restryouis
    @Restryouis3 жыл бұрын

    I think the Elder is a lot like the Beast, once we defeat it, the Gods awaken, now that we defeated the Elder, the Maiven, the Lightkeeper and the Maiven's father have been "awakened" (more like being made aware of us).

  • @thahoule7924

    @thahoule7924

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah they clearly recycled the beast storyline, only on a much larger scale. pretty boring and uncreative imho, but we shall see

  • @pnutbteronbwlz9799
    @pnutbteronbwlz97992 жыл бұрын

    Dang now with 3.17 I can’t believe how much you got correct about the coming forces. It is only that the progenitor is actually time and entropy, while the lightkeeper is order and ambition. Lightkeeper sent the Searing exarch, Progenitor or as I think, the tangle, sent the Eater of Worlds. I think the Lightkeeer also sent Inocence, hence the descry and the order theme. I think the dreamer is also the lightkeeper because of the fire analogy.

  • @NautilusCosplayer
    @NautilusCosplayer3 жыл бұрын

    The Strange Voice (Delirium guy) mentions the dreamer in simulacrums. He says, "Nothing you do matters. The dream will end, and the dreamer will pass into the next world." Wouldn't be surprised to see him reappear in the future, so maybe he is involved in some say.

  • @conto7032
    @conto70323 жыл бұрын

    PoE 2 maps story tldr. prediction: Death of the exile(us in this patch) + helping Maven run away again, so eldritch being won't destroy Wraeclast, but goes after her. Helping will include Harbingers, too. So they do not need run anymore. Harbringes are like animals running away, because fire is behind their back.

  • @sozerox123
    @sozerox1233 жыл бұрын

    The 'dead stone forest' reminds me of the Absence of Meaning and Value, where we fight the Elder. It is encircled by a number of 'stone' figures, presumably dead people. Or perhaps it just means we are small and the 'world' is big.

  • @royce_beyer
    @royce_beyer3 жыл бұрын

    There is a short story written for this leagues talent competition that I head canon as true, it hypothesizes that all life in Wraeclast and maybe even Wraeclast itself are all a part of a greater eldritch entity, a being of change and/or growth, this may or may not be true but I find that it explains a lot of things that happen in Wraeclast such as the fact that humans can become god-like being that could challenge this greater eldritch beings and many other events throughout Wraeclasts history

  • @RealBazaboo
    @RealBazaboo3 жыл бұрын

    Holy shit. I've been playing since late heist and usually skip dialogue and lore stuff. This is amazing. Glad I found this, I've got chills right now

  • @xi_MoppeL
    @xi_MoppeL3 жыл бұрын

    the envoy is my hidden love. I am literally always stopping in a map and listen to him. i adore him to the fullest and now knowing the lore background made me fall even more in love with him. thank you!

  • @toborajnin
    @toborajnin3 жыл бұрын

    Oooh, I've really been looking forward to this one! :)

  • @CTOOFBOOGLE
    @CTOOFBOOGLE3 жыл бұрын

    Didn’t feel too bad about ignoring the spooky boy during maps because I knew I could count on this video coming out. Thanks!

  • @einkar4219
    @einkar42192 жыл бұрын

    next expansion title is "Siege of the Atlas" so we've got about 3 weeks before They come

  • @taggedJC
    @taggedJC3 жыл бұрын

    Could "The Dreamer" refer to "Chayula, Who Dreamt"? There's a chance that the breach / beyond may be a part of this as well.

  • @KittenCatNoodle

    @KittenCatNoodle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent point! I did consider this because of Chayula's title/association with dreams. It's a good idea, I just have no way to connect it because we don't really know enough about Chayula's intentions. I would love, love, love to know more about the Breach Realm and Lords!

  • @ThunderTrash

    @ThunderTrash

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KittenCatNoodle What about the entity from Delirium? He, too, has a line mentioning that the "dreamer will awaken" or something along those lines. I don't think the dreamer is Shaper necessarily, but maybe something bigger/grander.

  • @ebon227

    @ebon227

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking same and it is probably most accurate suggestion because they (breach demons) live in parallel dimension.

  • @ArawnOfAnnwn

    @ArawnOfAnnwn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThunderTrash That entity is Tangmazu, the Trickster god. He's not one of the eldritch entities, but a Wraeclastian god much like Sin, Innocence and all the rest. Although exactly what the nature of those gods is, relative to the eldritch entities of the Atlas and 'beyond', is anyone's guess. So I guess who knows? xD

  • @ThunderTrash

    @ThunderTrash

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ArawnOfAnnwn ahh, did not know that. Thanks! I was always curious about his line about the dreamer, though. I was interested when I noticed the Envoy had a similar line. Thought there might be some overlap there!

  • @FreezyPenguin
    @FreezyPenguin3 жыл бұрын

    Poe has such great lore, it's a shame it's so hard to access without standing still and reading

  • @Xeridanus

    @Xeridanus

    3 жыл бұрын

    Most of those lore objects will keep playing if you move away from them.

  • @shardok2638
    @shardok26383 жыл бұрын

    I have a different theory regarding the dead stone forest dialogue. I believe it to be that the atlas we explore is like the Envoy mentions, cracks of the ancient stone, and that the dead stone forest is a grouping of various other atlases. The reason I think this is one of the Maven's lines, "This atlas has it's delights.", making it suspicious and giving reason for new maps being added. It's possible that the various atlases are connected in some manner but are walled off, that is until the Elder was sealed away, meaning there might be other worlds like Wraeclast, a realm outside of madness where the Envoy must have come from. Also, I kind of feel like the dreamer the Envoy mentioned may have been Sirus, which would make sense how the others like the Maven and Envoy could hear him.

  • @lukeluckynblue1873

    @lukeluckynblue1873

    2 жыл бұрын

    ye i think too that in POE 2 some expansion will be different planet with their OWN atlas atlas it's like a STARGATE or if you want game world of warcraft dark portal..going from one planet to another but atlas is like a dimension..so what if we can go from one atlas to another and then came out in different place for example completely different planet :D who knows what they will do with the story of POE

  • @ishtiaquerahman1220
    @ishtiaquerahman12203 жыл бұрын

    Why can't GGG just admit that Chris Wilson will eventually be a boss in PoE?

  • @mrajaraven
    @mrajaraven3 жыл бұрын

    The Dreamer may be some sort of grand creator (Kalandra maybe?) like Iluvatar from LOTR that revealed the end of all things (feeling his fire?). The line "but an eternity must pass" maybe is some sort of way of telling us that that encounter is like 5 years on the development track.

  • @samuelstout1746
    @samuelstout17463 жыл бұрын

    Great job as always. My favorite quote from the envoy is the one about being an insect charting cracks in the stone.

  • @seedmole
    @seedmole3 жыл бұрын

    All the Lightkeeper mentioning brought back memories of Abyss league and the Lightpoacher helmet. Seems like they may be hinting at what may be the source of Abyss? And the stuff about the "Sleeper" instantly made me think of Shaper, I'm pretty sure they were going for that based on how he's been referenced before. Note the name Valdo's Rest... aka Shaper's Sleepy place.

  • @davood123
    @davood1233 жыл бұрын

    as far as the "mystery parts" we know a few things. chris told us they have 10 years of expansions pre planned and ready to go conceptually. basically one new eldritch being each year. and that the sirus story is gonna get retconned a tiny bit for poe2 finally. yeah im surprised zana has held it together and isnt just trying to zap anyone trying to enter the atlas. there seems to be no point in going into the atlas after sirus is taken down she shouldn't be standing around to "let it all happen again"

  • @gonzavera
    @gonzavera3 жыл бұрын

    Oh the weary travelers draw close to the end of their lives! Amazing as always, thanks for compiling all the lore info for us ♥

  • @thecrack2000
    @thecrack20009 ай бұрын

    I think the SPACE is so LARGE and so many contestants these so called "gods/eltritch beings" or "Their chosen". And suddenly, the presence is gone "The house is vacant". Now all the other gods know that this "space" is without a god or chosen, without a guardian or ruler (The Decay/Elder). And they want it. Just like the Maven wants it. And she stakes her claim through us as we battle other gods over this domain. "I want the atlas its mine!" What I dont understand is... What separates "Wraelclast" and the "Space/atlas". When we use the mapping device and insert a map, are we entering a different realm? Or is like light travel? (Are we moving to another location within the same "Realm" or are we entering another dimension entirely? A new universe so to speak.). It makes sense if its another universe, and the only way INTO our universe, which is wraelclast world is through the map devices and maps. And what is the relationship of the gods of wraelclast? And those gods that are IN the mapping device. (Sin, innocence, kitava VS The Decay, The light keeper, The cleansing fire?).

  • @deatherage9458
    @deatherage94583 жыл бұрын

    The "Dreamer" is mentioned in the Simulacrum. I think it is a separate entity from the Shaper.

  • @Volthoom
    @Volthoom3 жыл бұрын

    What all of this indirectly states, btw, is just how big of a deal the Elder was. The amount of events its disappearance has set in motion, sheesh.

  • @ishtiaquerahman1220
    @ishtiaquerahman12203 жыл бұрын

    There is a fear that keeps me awake more than what lies beyond the atlas: that GGG is going to make the endgame of POE just as long if not longer than the campaign.

  • @Matosis98

    @Matosis98

    3 жыл бұрын

    It already is way way longer

  • @ArawnOfAnnwn

    @ArawnOfAnnwn

    3 жыл бұрын

    It already is. And that's a GOOD thing!

  • @ishtiaquerahman1220

    @ishtiaquerahman1220

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ArawnOfAnnwn Well I don't think that the actual endgame story by itself is longer than that of the campaign. Rather it just feels longer because it takes longer to progress because of the mechanism used to progress. The actual endgame story feels like the length of 3-4 acts but said amount of acts play out way faster in the campaign.

  • @zeriel9148
    @zeriel91483 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes, the thing that even eldritch horrors fear, that wretched monstrocity, the pinnacle of terror: player characters.

  • @franciscodetonne4797
    @franciscodetonne47973 жыл бұрын

    So the Maven cannot really create realities like the Shaper and Elder, despite being extremely powerful? Or she just doesn't have that kind of power. So we may see her "parents" in the future, now that we defeated the Maven? And perhaps more beings from outside of the Atlas that don't have The power of creation surely is a power to be desired. PS. The ultimate endgame boss arena will be named "Absence of DPS and Survivability".

  • @comraddisc2783

    @comraddisc2783

    3 жыл бұрын

    If a mere "newborn" gave us this much trouble - what'll happen when "parents" arrive?..Also, we haven't defeated the Maven - the encounter ended in draw by the Envoy.

  • @ArawnOfAnnwn

    @ArawnOfAnnwn

    3 жыл бұрын

    She's not really interested in creating places. She doesn't have a goal. Also, the Shaper is called as such because he 're-shaped' the territories of the Atlas. He didn't create the space. The Atlas didn't necessarily expand under him (whatever that means, since we've no idea how big, or even infinite, it is). Similarly, the Elder didn't contract it, merely 'decayed' it (which I suppose is another kind of transformation). Which just leads to the old question of where or who the Atlas came from in the first place...

  • @KittenCatNoodle

    @KittenCatNoodle

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ArawnOfAnnwn the Elder actually created the Atlas! But he created the center of it. If you think of it like a galaxy that has it's own space, but worlds/planets within that space that could be numerous or few, the Elder created the "galaxy" from his center, the dreamlands, and the Shaper used the Thaumaturgy he learned from the Elder to create "planets" or worlds/maps within that galaxy.

  • @davood123
    @davood1233 жыл бұрын

    19:09 makes me think the envoy kind of wanted the maven to get pooofed as well to be free of his eternal servitude so his protection of her to keep the gaping maw (clever play on words for mom? :P) from coming is self preservation more than protecting her as if she poofed in the part mentioned in 19:09. presumably she wouldn't have been able to call for aid.

  • @luan_luttrix
    @luan_luttrix3 жыл бұрын

    OMG, this video is everything!! I'm beyond excited for how this lore will progress. I think that before her progenitor arrive others will. Lightkeeper and Progenitor silent divergence can be very interesting, and would be awsome one Eldritch that care for us on some level. Anyway, this new endgame is just the begging and I can't wait for how this will progress I love Maven so much, and get so intrigued by her, since the first teasers, yesterday I have tattoo Maven herself on my arm, now she will witness the struggle of my life hahahahaha

  • @araen11

    @araen11

    10 ай бұрын

    holy, I think you are right I don't think searing exarch or something hunger are the "progenitors"... which means the worst is still ahead of us

  • @MattDoesLife539
    @MattDoesLife5393 жыл бұрын

    One day we will fight her "Mummy" and "Daddy".

  • @rainbowsnail4171
    @rainbowsnail41713 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! I absolutely love PoE, and it's lore, but have to live my life on strong pain medications, that also dull my reaction times and makes PoE endgame kind of impossible. So just like with the Conquerors, I can experience the start of the story, up to around the mid point, on my own. The rest I need videos like this for. Really appreciate these videos!

  • @ArawnOfAnnwn

    @ArawnOfAnnwn

    3 жыл бұрын

    My sympathies for your predicament. :/

  • @rainbowsnail4171

    @rainbowsnail4171

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ArawnOfAnnwn Thank you! But because of amazing videos like this, I can still enjoy my hobbies :D

  • @KyokujiFGC
    @KyokujiFGC3 жыл бұрын

    I think it's more than just her realizing you can challenge her, but more like she finally understands that your life has value just like hers. That you feel and want and desire like she does. Prior to that, you were just like dolls to her. She couldn't empathize with other life the same way we wouldn't feel bad about killing an NPC in a videogame.

  • @davood123
    @davood1233 жыл бұрын

    ahh yes was waiting for this. i kind of suspected alot after reading what the envoy says in maps and after you clap the maven's cheeks from the writ fight. its nice to see+hear it all nicely organized.

  • @KittenCatNoodle

    @KittenCatNoodle

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad to hear that! Cause trying to make this into a coherent narrative was the hardest part

  • @alexseguin5245
    @alexseguin52453 жыл бұрын

    Always looking forward to these videos! It seems to me that the Elder would be the one who represents entropy, devouring all the worlds that the progenitor / creator has made. Existence would be experienced in between these two entities. I guess that would make it so ending the agent of entropy would unbalance the whole universe, bringing about the coming of the Progenitor. I guess he might be a being of fire and chaos who's to bringing ultimate destruction upon Wraeclast. Can't wait to fight that guy!

  • @SimbaXp
    @SimbaXp2 жыл бұрын

    Since chris wilson said on one of those podcasts that they want to go away with influenced items and 3.17 it is a revamp of the endgame with possibly that. I think we will be playing in a timeline that once we kill kitava instead of going to the usual atlas chasing the conquerors and zana, we will end up in a different realm where maven and her crew control.

  • @Tight_Conduct
    @Tight_Conduct Жыл бұрын

    I’ve never looked into this game but my friend sent me this and I’m hooked. What an immersive universe! Extremely well done video!

  • @andrewfigueras3297
    @andrewfigueras32973 жыл бұрын

    Maintenance made me watch this

  • @Beorninger77
    @Beorninger773 жыл бұрын

    this is one of the most amazing lore and lore videos I've seen so far. Thank you very much for your effort. If I feel hyped for what's to come and if I feel awe for the progenitor and at the same time want to fight him...it's for sure first of all the creators in ggg of this puzzle but nonetheless your work to put the pieces together for us too busy spinning the hamsterwheel of the game. So thank you and keep going!

  • @epicfailtrain
    @epicfailtrain3 жыл бұрын

    Amazing as always Noodle. Your lore videos are always one of my most anticipated league highlights after launch day. :)

  • @darklight1202
    @darklight12023 жыл бұрын

    omg been waiting for this video for ages!!! thanks kittencatnoodle

  • @xTobsecretx
    @xTobsecretx3 жыл бұрын

    The stone thing kinda sounds like there’s gonna be another atlas outside the atlas?! I.e. that other parallel universe?

  • @Theta40
    @Theta403 жыл бұрын

    Just as the Elderslayers represented the player, I believe that the Maven represents Chris Wilson, who just wants to mess with us and takes delight in our suffering. Which would make the Envoy Bex. 🙂

  • @DarkDragonSlayerAQW
    @DarkDragonSlayerAQW3 жыл бұрын

    Playing for the first time and i'm just amazed with both the lore and the gameplay of PoE. I couldn't understand anything while playing, which is normal for arpgs, but i made a good decision checking out the story on youtube. It's so interesting and well written, i couldn't stop watching. Thank you for your effort, i can only imagine how hard it is to put all these story bits together.

  • @EbonyGerm
    @EbonyGerm3 жыл бұрын

    The Dreamer could be this light-keeper you mention. "But an eternity will pass before we feel his fire." Also, I see you're running a fireball build and I am super interested in seeing it. Do you have a PoB and/or your PoE profile I can visit to see the tree/gear?

  • @ProfWollhoven
    @ProfWollhoven3 жыл бұрын

    Dear my lovely Ms. Kitten Cat-Noodle, if you're interested in my opinion, hear me out. I think that we're now in a POE Multiverse and that the Envoy is actually a mirrored version of ourselves who was able to not only defeat but eradicate the Elder in his own Universe. He still got help from Sirus and co (his followers) but had to turn them town too because they where infected but the Elder. After that he discovered that the Elder wasn't the only cosmic identity out there and so he searched for ways to reach and, should they be a thread, destroy them and he succeeded for the first part. He found another one of the, how I call them, "Cosmic Puppeteers". He tried to fight him and lost but was not killed. The Puppeteer shaped the Exile into the thing now called "Envoy" was bound him to Maven (the youngest Puppeteer). I also think that all the Puppeteers are sort of apexes of emotions and feelings. Elder -> hunger/fear and Maven -> greenness/envy (she steals your "toys" to make you visit here).

  • @rocknrollmanic
    @rocknrollmanic3 жыл бұрын

    I'm relatively new to PoE but I think I have an analogy that might explain whats to come. Think of a library, each book is a world. Once a book is completely read, it can be called dead. Reading would involve entering the book. The people "reading" these books are the Eldritch. Eldritch is what Ill use to describe the entities like the Elder, The Maven, etc. Each page is a map in the Atlas or a dimension like a Map. Ours just happened to the thickest from all the realms of the Atlas, thus the most interesting and prized. The Elder was reading ours before we kicked him out of the book and possible out of the library. Now the Maven pick up our book and almost got hurt by it. Her Father will be the next to pick it up. The Lightbright could be thought as the Librarian in this analogy. It only watches and doesn't intervene unless it must.

  • @AdrasAdraki
    @AdrasAdraki3 жыл бұрын

    I really like the scale of this expansion in terms of the oore and the characters, it exoanded the universe and it makes it feel like theres so much more that we dont understand.

  • @MouZ245
    @MouZ2453 жыл бұрын

    Good effort! Nicely put together. Liked and shared.

  • @pumpgod940
    @pumpgod9404 ай бұрын

    We start fighting maven's daddy and to help us 'cause he wants to bring her home, she starts summoning every single damn uber boss to help us 😂

  • @DrEnzyme
    @DrEnzyme2 жыл бұрын

    My guess is that the "dead stone forest" are the atlases in the parallel worlds in which the other leagues occur. It's canonical that each league takes place at the same point in time, but with different variations. Perhaps the forest of dead stones are the atlases that were never opened, the ones that cry out to be explored?

  • @angel38618
    @angel386183 жыл бұрын

    Finalyyy I put it in watch later because I have a mid-term brb in couple of hours

  • @comraddisc2783
    @comraddisc27833 жыл бұрын

    Remember Mass Effect 1, the scene where you speak with the Reaper on Virmire for the first time, remember this line of his, and apply it to PoE universe: "You exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it." + Strange Voice's words in PoE: "Savour the sand that stings your face. It is a reminder that I still let you live."

  • @ArawnOfAnnwn

    @ArawnOfAnnwn

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Strange Voice is Tangmazu, and he's mostly just talk. Basically PoE's version of Loki, the Trickster god. Really just the same thing as Sin, Innocence, Kitava, Solaris, Lunaris, Arakaali, the Brine King, etc. Not that big of a deal. We don't kill him only cos, much like Loki, he's not a fighter. So he never gives us the chance.

  • @Mrnothing1777
    @Mrnothing17772 жыл бұрын

    I guess the envoy referring to zana as the dreamer's fire, wish mean she will turn into a being on the level of maven and such

  • @NihilisticGoliath
    @NihilisticGoliath2 жыл бұрын

    Regarding the "dreamer's fire" - if the dreamers could be Valdo, my guess that his "fire" is Zana, and she will be the one to fulfill his promise... Which already happened, when she sealed away the Elder. I don't know if that's a continuity error, or if I am just wrong. As for the "dead stone forest", I think it refers to our own insignificance, in comparison to the Eldritch beings. The vastness of the universe that these beings can access, versus how little the Exile can reach through the Atlas. And if that is the case, the Envoy may be hinting at being disappointed with how little the Eldritch are doing with their power when he says that the stone forest "howls to be discovered". As for the term "The Dreamer", I think that the Delirium Entity uses the term differently than anyone else in the lore. To me, it seems that Delirium knows about us - the player - that is controlling the Exile; he "knows for a fact" that the Exile is "empty". I think that when Delirium says "Dreamer", he means us, the player. His line about the Dreamer "passing from this world and into the next" could be hinting at us playing other games, but it also fits the Shaper, so I am unsure.

  • @frissonize
    @frissonize3 жыл бұрын

    Noodle: do you still think the Maven is a star of some kind? I have been thinking about this since you speculated before the release of Echoes, and some of the Envoy's lines about being "pulled toward" things might suggest the pull of gravity, perhaps from a collapsing star? Is the Envoy perhaps a planet/former planet? A lot of its lines make sense when viewed through the prism of that metaphor--but, of course, not all of them.

  • @KittenCatNoodle

    @KittenCatNoodle

    3 жыл бұрын

    I didn't get anything that explicitly confirmed it, although the Envoy does refer to the Eldritch beings as "the stars" and "the living abyss." He could be talking in metaphor. I do suspect that they have large influences over extremely distant and possibly cosmic areas, but I dont know if I think she's a star literally. I still like the concept tho; and we do see a lot of star imagery associated with her!

  • @NemisCassander
    @NemisCassander3 жыл бұрын

    KCN, great video as always. I had a point of consideration about the Harbinger video you did. Excellent work, BTW, on the language. I recall that one part of the text mentioned 'pieces' of power. Could this be referring to the fact that Harbinger's drop shards of Orbs rather than Orbs themselves?

  • @chicomanara
    @chicomanara3 жыл бұрын

    Or maybe, maybe, the Shaper might have done more that will be revealed in the future.

  • @wexoriann
    @wexoriann3 жыл бұрын

    another nice video keep it up , need more

  • @Millnar
    @Millnar3 жыл бұрын

    I love this series. Keep it up

  • @KennyAmores
    @KennyAmores3 жыл бұрын

    The Envoy could be the leader of the Harbingers or maybe one of them, reshaped by the Progenitor

  • @winzers
    @winzers2 ай бұрын

    Doesn't the delirium voice refer to us as the dreamer in a meta context. "The dream will end and the dreamer will pass into the next world" something like that.

  • @ILikeGuns1992
    @ILikeGuns19923 жыл бұрын

    Envoy gonna be our friend when Zana goes mad. Calling it.

  • @comraddisc2783

    @comraddisc2783

    3 жыл бұрын

    We've already seen at least two people (in Heist) that claim our presence makes them hear (Strange Voice) things they'd like not to listen to. What if the same influence is being cast upon Zana, slowly driving her mad, and she simply doesn't tell anyone anything about it?

  • @ILikeGuns1992

    @ILikeGuns1992

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@comraddisc2783 maybe. But honestly you don't need any additional theories to speculate that Zana is going mad. Atlas makes you mad and she spent there more time than anyone else.

  • @ArawnOfAnnwn

    @ArawnOfAnnwn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@comraddisc2783 That's just a reference to Delirium. The Strange Voice is Tangmazu, and he's just a Wraeclastian entity. Basically PoE's version of Loki, the Trickster god. Really just the same thing as Sin, Innocence, Kitava, Solaris, Lunaris, Arakaali, the Brine King, etc. Not that big of a deal. Although yes, he could certainly be toying with others too, as he does with us.

  • @manwevala1
    @manwevala14 ай бұрын

    there is not alot of lore in the game so i found this channel

  • @reddeaththemangolover5202
    @reddeaththemangolover52023 жыл бұрын

    What if the harbingers were immigrants from the other realm trying to warn us about this whole thing, but we couldn't understand their language. But now since the envoy has gotten into this form (a less harbingery form), he's able to talk to us. Just a random, sleep deprived, 5 am thought. Don't mind me. XD

  • @bryankelly335
    @bryankelly3352 жыл бұрын

    Just a comment to boost the Channel .. Thanks for everything you do for us .. Appreciate yah ..!

  • @kawaiinda6252
    @kawaiinda62522 жыл бұрын

    Well, to answer 22:30, we are going to find out in about a months time :D

  • @alexknapp1528
    @alexknapp15282 жыл бұрын

    oh man, i hope you do one of these for the new expansion! do you think the 2 new bosses are her parents?

  • @noxyoshi
    @noxyoshi3 жыл бұрын

    Omg how I miss this video

  • @AKIman85
    @AKIman8511 ай бұрын

    Nice work

  • @scrangos
    @scrangos2 жыл бұрын

    Kuudos, great video!

  • @angel38618
    @angel386183 жыл бұрын

    I love Poe lore But I don't want to be another sirus where we die then turn into new exile

  • @winter9213
    @winter9213 Жыл бұрын

    We and the Maven should be best pals since we also seek out conflict and destruction for our amusement, no matter how much harm that may bring :')

  • @AbdulHakim-lv4gr
    @AbdulHakim-lv4gr3 жыл бұрын

    Doesnt it bothers you the fact that the envoy reached to us instead of the conquerors who are the ones to destroyed the elder?

  • @MayorLag

    @MayorLag

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ironically, it would seem the current (ie. active league) narrative of PoE is not canon until further story progress, at least ever since The Atlas. Every time the story progresses, current cannon morphs into something else: - When Shaper was introduced, we became Zana's helpers in trying to discover his motives; - When Elder was introduced, Shaper stopped being a mysterious architect and became a jailer of The Elder, Zana learned Shapers' identity much earlier, and we help her unmake The Elder; - When conquerors were introduced, we are suddenly no longer the canonical elder slayers, instead helping Zana clean up the mess of Sirus and co stand-in crew. Now we are The Nomad, and Maven tests us; but next time story progresses, we might no longer be the canonical nomad, and instead have to clean up after some other new "stand-in" exile. Or, perhaps more accurately, our point of view shifts and changes, as we discard old characters and make new ones, as a sort of meta narrative device.

  • @SergoskokChannel
    @SergoskokChannel3 жыл бұрын

    a theory I had while playing on my own is that envoy is multiple people in one body or one mind, since he refers to "other like me". A group of people most fit for his memories seems to be the vaal in their last moments, and especially Doriany. Due to a line: "those who followed in my footprints did not halt, pushing me against the warm walls. I was crushed and swallowed whole..." I think that the envoy was created when Doriany tried to enter(?) the beast. I'm not sure what "the silence" is, but the period of gods being sent to "cosmic gay baby jail" seems fitting. feel free to tell me how that's completely wrong thou.

  • @KittenCatNoodle

    @KittenCatNoodle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, Doryani was Atziri's right hand here on Wraeclast. He had communion with the Beast, but we don't have any info that suggests he had contact with Eldritch beings. He could have, as the Watchers of Decay are very old as well, but I don't think the Envoy is from Wraeclast or our world, personally. He says he's taken on a new form to be able to talk to us, but if he used to be human, it wouldn't feel like such a foreign form? Instead of saying this new, human form makes it so he "can't remember" his original form, he might have said this new form is "familiar" if they were trying to hint at him once being human

  • @osamely_varan
    @osamely_varan3 жыл бұрын

    good job

  • @garf412
    @garf4123 жыл бұрын

    cool, thanks

  • @friendssmoking
    @friendssmoking Жыл бұрын

    Path of Exile 3 Is going to be the Eldritch beings conquer Oriath

  • @user-xk9ws1lq3w
    @user-xk9ws1lq3w2 жыл бұрын

    What are the powers of the Eldritch Gods before my power of unlimited continues in the softcore? Mere joke! But still, i would love to see a multi-phase apocalyptic fight with the Maven's Dad, which can be a nice transition to poe 2. If they dont screw it up, atleast..

  • @noxyoshi
    @noxyoshi3 жыл бұрын

    how do you have your curser that color & size, is there a way to change it ingame?

  • @KittenCatNoodle

    @KittenCatNoodle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not in game but a stream app called yolo mouse! Can be used not on steam games as well

  • @maikatiemuj2706
    @maikatiemuj27062 жыл бұрын

    Lore for poe.... let me tell you what a wise man said....''POE LORE IS MYTH''

  • @dawbra
    @dawbra3 жыл бұрын

    *Zana goes in to cat form and follow us to maven den* *Maven senses a cat ilussion* Maven:Come my child don't be afraid. *Zana stand in front of Maven * Maven :Am your mother!

  • @Xeridanus
    @Xeridanus3 жыл бұрын

    Didn't synthesis have something to do with dreaming/dreamer? I don't remember much of that league as it was annoying to play.

  • @fate5233
    @fate52333 жыл бұрын

    WAYTOODANK

  • @saltamuertosturambar4050
    @saltamuertosturambar40503 жыл бұрын

    Conclusion: "We are fucked".

  • @TheCubecrafer
    @TheCubecrafer3 жыл бұрын

    this is some meta-textual writing about the heat death of the universe and How gods work in tandem with mortals. As you know these beings are created by believe its an IDEA world they live in. This were the elder comes from DREAMS! Dream of the endless :)He owns the dreamlands and creates dreams and most gods are born from dreams. Its Like HP lovecraft.

  • @TheCubecrafer
    @TheCubecrafer3 жыл бұрын

    Imagine if the awesome story was easier to access

  • @anba9499
    @anba94993 жыл бұрын

    whaddup doood

  • @Glenwald
    @Glenwald3 жыл бұрын

    Epic

  • @TheCubecrafer
    @TheCubecrafer3 жыл бұрын

    You have watch "The Seven Dark Gods of the DC Universe" from Imaginary axis this dude Dream of the endless is in prettymuch every story... Even in this video 1:20 "dreamlands"

  • @elefprime8809
    @elefprime88093 жыл бұрын

    Do you plan on making any Grim Dawn lore videos? GD has some pretty deep lore but not many people bother to read it because the storytelling is even worse than in POE.

  • @ItsapaulGaming
    @ItsapaulGaming3 жыл бұрын

    peepoClap

  • @user-xw3hv3sn7s
    @user-xw3hv3sn7s3 жыл бұрын

    why u say Envoy is like harbinger?

  • @KittenCatNoodle

    @KittenCatNoodle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Look I can dream they'll make good on their Harbinger 2.0 promise! But visually, yes; the floating, cracks in his skull with blue/celestial glowing... I can dream

  • @user-xw3hv3sn7s

    @user-xw3hv3sn7s

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@KittenCatNoodleI'm very pleased that you answered me! Thanks.

  • @RabRabNZ
    @RabRabNZ3 жыл бұрын

    you are better at lore than GGG

  • @ArawnOfAnnwn

    @ArawnOfAnnwn

    3 жыл бұрын

    Err...GGG WROTE all the lore she's explaining.

  • @yaythereal
    @yaythereal3 жыл бұрын

    the envoy is just an excuse for GGG to add unskippable obnoxiously long fake deep lines to game.

  • @FartSmucker

    @FartSmucker

    3 жыл бұрын

    Explain why they would add that and how it benefits them to add it so we can't it? Go on...

  • @conto7032

    @conto7032

    3 жыл бұрын

    u can skip it by clicking on him ... i hope they add it to "space bar" close action

  • @gonzavera

    @gonzavera

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you run into another master/NPC he will shut up. I.E.: when you find Cassia and she spots you saying "oh.."

  • @KittenCatNoodle

    @KittenCatNoodle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Personally, I want the Envoy to read me bed time stories

  • @xenogard

    @xenogard

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@KittenCatNoodle Same

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