[PoE 3.23] How Bad Are the Nerfs in 3.23?

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00:00 Some Things Got Nerfed
00:27 Bows
00:42 Kaom's Spirit: Biggest Loser
02:55 Heatshiver
04:00 Returning Projectile "Bug Fix"
05:50 Spark Got Nerfed In Multiple Ways
08:01 Sanctum Is Still Great
09:05 Honourable Mentions
10:56 Conclusion
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  • @Palsteron
    @Palsteron7 ай бұрын

    What's "major" that I forgot about?

  • @gummyblade

    @gummyblade

    7 ай бұрын

    idk

  • @Bishaps

    @Bishaps

    7 ай бұрын

    Righteous fire, iirc was also nerfed.

  • @sadmate_

    @sadmate_

    7 ай бұрын

    definitely righteous fire. Its only useful for leveling now which I don't even know who does that

  • @czosnektoniecebula247

    @czosnektoniecebula247

    7 ай бұрын

    spark has even less proj speed, cause u didnt include ashes i think but its not that major

  • @kronos6460

    @kronos6460

    7 ай бұрын

    Mana. Specifically reduced mana cost from alt gems like divergent inspiration/anom trap and mine dmg, boot enchants that gave 18% reduced mana cost, helm enchants that gave mana reservation efficiency etc. While not build breaking it will require more effort to achieve the desired numbers and that means less power somewhere else in a build. Trap, mine and I think CoC forbidden Rite took major hits.

  • @Quel_droma
    @Quel_droma7 ай бұрын

    Man I love these individual videos taking one or a few skills and reviewing them. Great stuff

  • @sagi3933
    @sagi39337 ай бұрын

    Imagine Spark working like Firestorm currently does: A massive lightning strucks the targeted location, shooting out x amount of spark projectiles around it.

  • @waranddeath6936
    @waranddeath69367 ай бұрын

    0:40 That made me laugh really sincerely

  • @hughthehandjackman1236
    @hughthehandjackman12367 ай бұрын

    Vortex got me interested with Cold DoT Elementalist ? Since it has a cast time now wouldn't it affect the builds as well?

  • @SuperCatacata
    @SuperCatacata7 ай бұрын

    I laughed at your reaction to the bow skill gems actually getting a buff. 😂

  • @thelastverb

    @thelastverb

    7 ай бұрын

    They did not. Almost everything we know so far (no lghdtv gems) got nerfed in core. The problem is people read only half of the note for specific skill. For example TS - "Quality now causes the skill to Fire +0-1 secondary Projectile, instead of providing 0-20% increased Projectile Damage AND +1 SECONDARY PROJECTILE FROM ENCHANT". That's 20% increased projectil damage nerf. For a lot of skills they swapped old quality bonuses to one of old enchants.

  • @kaskhan6875

    @kaskhan6875

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@thelastverboh no 20% increased damage... so anyway

  • @cIappo896

    @cIappo896

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@thelastverb20% increased damage is, let's see, going by this random PoB I found on ninja that's around the middle -75m DPS, about 1.3% damage. Extra projectile is another entire hit. And every hit does multiple dozens of millions of damage.

  • @alex7435

    @alex7435

    7 ай бұрын

    @@thelastverb A 20% proj damage nerf in exchange for never having to deal with a TFT labrunner is actually a buff tbh

  • @thelastverb

    @thelastverb

    7 ай бұрын

    @@alex7435 On this I would agree. Now GGG should do something about Aisling.

  • @niklaslutze3092
    @niklaslutze30927 ай бұрын

    was looking forward to trying out your frenzy/endurance charge stacker. Kinda sad kaoms got kicked down so much. anybody know some alternate gloves or were they mandatory?

  • @kektics3074
    @kektics30747 ай бұрын

    I really hope at least some aura/buff skills get transfigured: losing reservation efficiency on helmet enchant is quite a big hit for aura focussed builds

  • @goldenducky12
    @goldenducky127 ай бұрын

    One of the only builds i can think of that can still probs use kaoms spirit is armor stacker. Due to the armor and evasion mastery regenning based off 1% of the armor every 4 seconds, which is alot at 1-2m+ armor.

  • @kwstasduka211
    @kwstasduka2117 ай бұрын

    Which one u recommend it for pathfinder bow build?

  • @ThaGamingMisfit
    @ThaGamingMisfit7 ай бұрын

    The eradication of mana reservation helmet enchants, including heralds, could be significant for a lot of builds. They're really chipping away as much mana reservation until one aura or herald will be the norm again, that's my prediction. I guess that's not a bad thing, it's always been very clunky, we probably won't see any of that in PoE2 anyways.

  • @Z2Matrix
    @Z2Matrix7 ай бұрын

    I know everyone keeps talking about helm enchants, but didn't we loose boot and glove enchants as well?

  • @evilpugg6866
    @evilpugg68667 ай бұрын

    So I know patch notes are out but there is still a lot of information they haven’t released. Does that info just come out in forums or do we have to figure it out once league starts?

  • @nymerjack
    @nymerjack7 ай бұрын

    LOL the Lightning Arrow/Tornado Shot segment sent me. Thanks as always Pal

  • @Le__Toucan
    @Le__Toucan7 ай бұрын

    Dont forget that EK can also use Nimis now without the downsides for damage, but you'll be giving up a ring slot for it

  • @michaelmorrison2862
    @michaelmorrison28627 ай бұрын

    Any thoughts for League start Pal? played your Hexblast last league and loved it!

  • @Somerled_Pox
    @Somerled_Pox7 ай бұрын

    The big thing about gem changes is that it's hard to call them buffs or nerfs as long as we don't know how the new alt gems are gonna work exactly. What are their stats, how easy or hard is it going to get the ones you want, and so on. The rest though, classic nerfs & buffs.

  • @ouroboros4664

    @ouroboros4664

    7 ай бұрын

    Its a nerf. By making the alt gems.drop from fking labs. ITS A HUGE FUN AND BUILD VARIETY NERF

  • @Evil_Arthas

    @Evil_Arthas

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ouroboros4664 What are you talking about blud? You're on some crystals or what?) You can get tf gems from literally 33 level lab while before you would need to wait for Heist cu cks to farm, on top there is 300 alt gems - Lab have 100+ only. Also labs gonna be complete by everyone up to 4 times (4 tf gems for everyone), not to say about those who gonna farm them for 2-3 minutes run. Turn on your brain mate.

  • @ouroboros4664

    @ouroboros4664

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Evil_Arthas do u know how many labs i run a league? 4 thats all. Hate lab. Idc

  • @user-nm4mi2sq1o

    @user-nm4mi2sq1o

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ouroboros4664 And? im 100% sure you buy the fucking helm with enchant on a trade. So with gems - same shit. You just buy it from another player

  • @albertgiovanno1359

    @albertgiovanno1359

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@ouroboros4664build variety nerf??? u need to get off those crack john,just the zombie falling literally just enabled minion attacks +Caster+Triggers archetype lmao if thats not variety i dont know what is

  • @Henbe_
    @Henbe_7 ай бұрын

    Hunter Quiver can have 20% global chance to poison, so it is a nice alternative way to approach poison spellcaster, especially if you go for +3 bow for lvl7 enhance+empower.

  • @Sidnv
    @Sidnv7 ай бұрын

    I think Kaom's spirit is now only for armorstackers and armor + ev Champ builds that can stack upwards of 500k combined armor + evasion. At this number, the mastery for 1% of ev/armor regen as life every 4 seconds does give you solid amounts of rage. Armorstackers in particular can still reach 50 rage regen per 4 seconds.

  • @Scyths1
    @Scyths17 ай бұрын

    Tornado Shot I kinda understand, but is Lightning Arrow really a nerf ? Genuinely asking as I haven't played for 3 leagues now and I'm getting back into this one.

  • @Alphearan

    @Alphearan

    7 ай бұрын

    They weren’t nerfed. They were buffed. That’s why he reacted that way

  • @ryansolomon626
    @ryansolomon6267 ай бұрын

    Can someone explain to me how the changes to the quality on tornado shot and lightning arrow are nerfs?

  • @ElvianEmpire

    @ElvianEmpire

    7 ай бұрын

    they aren't, it was a joke

  • @albertgiovanno1359

    @albertgiovanno1359

    7 ай бұрын

    its a nerf to high end,but its a big big buff to everything low to mid cause u can literally switch to tornado shot as soon as u get the gem with qual

  • @Corvo80

    @Corvo80

    7 ай бұрын

    Second that. Maybe it was a joke?

  • @ryansolomon626

    @ryansolomon626

    7 ай бұрын

    TY! I was so confused lol

  • @frostyiv1509

    @frostyiv1509

    7 ай бұрын

    Fyi, it's a satire

  • @FaeraGaelwyn
    @FaeraGaelwyn7 ай бұрын

    ohh man I completely forgot about alt accuracy support, rip accuracy stacking hopefully they end up making that the default quality.

  • @mateusmelo4180
    @mateusmelo41807 ай бұрын

    i think mine/trap throw speed nerds are really impactful too, making mines and traps way more clunky to play

  • @TheCosmicAstro-

    @TheCosmicAstro-

    7 ай бұрын

    They were already really clunky too. Not sure why they nerfed it. Very weird

  • @Intestine_Ballin-ism

    @Intestine_Ballin-ism

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@TheCosmicAstro-they also nerfed totem placement speed from spell totem. So, sanctum runner nerf

  • @Sammysapphira

    @Sammysapphira

    7 ай бұрын

    That's crazy mines don't do 20m dps with 5c of gear. Build must be dead.

  • @TheCosmicAstro-

    @TheCosmicAstro-

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Intestine_Ballin-ism Sanctum is trash anyway. Plus totems arent fun to play lol. Hoping they buff self cast cause everything just being totem totem totem/Ballista is MEGA resident sleeper

  • @Intestine_Ballin-ism

    @Intestine_Ballin-ism

    7 ай бұрын

    @@TheCosmicAstro- sanctum prints money like crazy so elaborate on the trash part lol With that said I absolutely despise it and anyone that runs it exclusively. None of these people were good at dodgeball in high school, no

  • @mathiaslind5266
    @mathiaslind52667 ай бұрын

    Do we know if all alt qual gems will be gone in standard too or are they just legacy?

  • @Melynt
    @Melynt7 ай бұрын

    Will u make summary for best buffs in the patch? ;p would be great

  • @spotLV
    @spotLV7 ай бұрын

    every lightning damage should still have a chance to shock, right? despite the arrow tooltip

  • @DAR0k88
    @DAR0k887 ай бұрын

    I didn't realize accuracy stacking was nerfed so hard. Also, the Lightning Warp TS build is gone without the helm enchant.

  • @tomtr7459
    @tomtr74597 ай бұрын

    Koam’s gloves are still broken on armor stacker

  • @Craesi
    @Craesi7 ай бұрын

    By far my favorite POE creator. Thanks for the videos :)

  • @MrAnt-hh3bp
    @MrAnt-hh3bp7 ай бұрын

    How is added proj on tornado shot a nerf?

  • @jequiti6057

    @jequiti6057

    7 ай бұрын

    Its not, that's the joke

  • @gipsydanger5020

    @gipsydanger5020

    7 ай бұрын

    I mean, losing 20% inc dmg isn't much, but it's still a nerf technically by removing the original quality. It will just be easier for clear to start since that lab chant was $$$

  • @meeptoss
    @meeptoss7 ай бұрын

    Losing divergent void manip also hurts... My leech D: and Anomalous dread banner, so you lose out on a bunch of damage reduction from aura effect and ashes

  • @sirmil3s
    @sirmil3s7 ай бұрын

    No alt quality gems and no helm enchant is a neft to all builds. They sayd trasfig gems are supose to make up for that and more, so we have to w8 and see.

  • @jirisneidr3352
    @jirisneidr33527 ай бұрын

    will your starter from last league be playable? Hexblast Mines Saboteur

  • @denisb5795
    @denisb57957 ай бұрын

    Anomalous minion speed being gone is a big nerf to wardloop. It can only be replaced by 2 extra to dust jewels so basically losing 2 jewel sockets.

  • @hfweuiofnweuio500
    @hfweuiofnweuio5007 ай бұрын

    forgot ralakesh impatience. discharge dead. all endurance/brutal charge stacker have to use farruls fur again. ontop they just killed the boots for every other build as well. every power charge stackers who self cast used this as well because it allowed to use inner conviction and malachais loop. so pretty much all power charge stackers are dead (another assassin nerf :)

  • @forcefulstorm6187
    @forcefulstorm61877 ай бұрын

    Loss of Anomalous HoAg hurts poison spell casters that are not Assassins. Might have to go for 1 or 2 Medium Clusters or Dendrobate over Lightning Coil now. E: Oh you do mention it. Had expected it to be a big enough thing that it gets it's own section haha.

  • @miked94

    @miked94

    7 ай бұрын

    Im betting the transfigured version no longer summons an agony crawler but gives extra poison chance, possibly giving additional bonuses from virulence stacks

  • @ouroboros4664

    @ouroboros4664

    7 ай бұрын

    @@miked94 i dont thing auras/heralds will have transfigured gems .. fk GGG fk poe2.

  • @albertgiovanno1359

    @albertgiovanno1359

    7 ай бұрын

    ​​@@ouroboros4664if u hate it so much,dont play the game,good bye bro no one is gonna miss u

  • @ouroboros4664

    @ouroboros4664

    7 ай бұрын

    @@albertgiovanno1359 vegan

  • @albertgiovanno1359

    @albertgiovanno1359

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ouroboros4664 ? now im 100% sure ur on crack bro

  • @cgt6611
    @cgt66117 ай бұрын

    Could you give us a little sneak peek on the Poison LS league starter? I'm really interested. Tyvm

  • @Palsteron

    @Palsteron

    7 ай бұрын

    dead

  • @cgt6611

    @cgt6611

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Palsteron I lol'd. Rip

  • @stefandemerov8423
    @stefandemerov84237 ай бұрын

    Tornado shot change is a straight up BUFF, previously it was IMPOSSIBLE to get more than 4 secondary arrows per little "tornado" you fire (with helmet enchant), now you can do gem quality shenanigans to get that number to maybe 5, 6, or even 7 secondary projectiles. We lost +20 proj damage, which is so common on the tree anyway. Straight up buff in my book.

  • @frogov99
    @frogov997 ай бұрын

    I know Power Siphon isn´t very popular, but it´s kinda dead for wander single target now. The extra projectiles will work in forbidden rite stile (shoots extra to nearby enemies) not as extra added like now. SST losing the phantasmal quality for crit multi scaling is a big nerf too.

  • @Evil_Arthas

    @Evil_Arthas

    7 ай бұрын

    Well, fortunately there is still hope that Transf gems will make them be closer to the what state we have now (Copium)

  • @madhatten5123

    @madhatten5123

    7 ай бұрын

    Use barrage the skill not the support… Fixed your welcome

  • @frogov99

    @frogov99

    7 ай бұрын

    @@madhatten5123 I thoght about it but Barrage has a low effectiveness of added damage. Maybe the replacement of P. Siphon + Barrage sup for Barrage Skill + best Dmg support will make up for it.

  • @goldenducky12

    @goldenducky12

    7 ай бұрын

    P siphon with qual stacking you can get like up to 60% crit multi per power charge, seems like it still has potential with barrage support but I'm not sure.

  • @hintzod

    @hintzod

    7 ай бұрын

    @@madhatten5123 barrage support with awakened gmp is still a 40% damage nerf.

  • @Waaif
    @Waaif7 ай бұрын

    Tanu Ahi gloves are a good alternative for kaom's

  • @TheSenit
    @TheSenit7 ай бұрын

    Ele hit and wild strike, what are their fate?

  • @Zylosio

    @Zylosio

    7 ай бұрын

    Dont forget prismatic burst, the 3rd prismatic skill that lost its threshold jewels

  • @jamessunderlandseventh7410
    @jamessunderlandseventh74107 ай бұрын

    Kaom's spirit nerf was truly insane, 100 too 300 was too heavy of a nerf imo

  • @noyce.
    @noyce.7 ай бұрын

    Till next time, PAL

  • @iFoss
    @iFoss7 ай бұрын

    Blood and Sand is not an aura tho, is it? It's just a reservation spell

  • @lenandov
    @lenandov7 ай бұрын

    I can't play in the end game where the wealth is. My rig won't run it. Maybe it could if they would allow me to eliminate audio and visual pollution. So I have to grind it out in lower areas to amass currency and trade for it. Aaaand now my gems and builds are gone. Why?

  • @002Nutzername
    @002Nutzername7 ай бұрын

    "... moving on" lol

  • @raikaria3090
    @raikaria30907 ай бұрын

    "Unwavering faith is pretty underpowered" Unironically; last leauge I took 3 ascendancy notables on my Guardian because nothing else fit what I was doing; and it was literally better taking 2 minor nodes than Unwavering Faith.

  • @atmosdwagon4656
    @atmosdwagon46567 ай бұрын

    And here I'm just playing PoE again to see all the campaign crap I missed since I stopped playing. (after Perandus League, I think? Sometime around 2015?) I honestly have no idea what I'm doing beyond my fundamental background of playing way too much Diablo 2. (from 2000 until like 2011) So most of this stuff, while very crunchy and tasty, means little to me in an operational sense.

  • @Carno836
    @Carno8367 ай бұрын

    i hope there are a lot of transfigured gems that do what the alt quals did, like the shockwave totem cold conversion quality, now my shockwave totem build is dead cause the cold conversion will be gone

  • @smookz2028

    @smookz2028

    7 ай бұрын

    Hrimsorrow still exist

  • @madhatten5123

    @madhatten5123

    7 ай бұрын

    @@smookz2028I swear people cannot think for themselves at all. See one change don’t even try to think of a way around it just instant go to “uhhh build dead”

  • @SeventhTenson
    @SeventhTenson7 ай бұрын

    One more for the honorable mention: I will miss the zombies slam attack, but it will nonetheless my starter

  • @moonphase6491
    @moonphase64917 ай бұрын

    pestilent strike

  • @bmnbl
    @bmnbl7 ай бұрын

    It all comes down to the new gems, if they're all pretty bad than these nerfs will be very noticeable next league where you will not have the borrowed power from the new ascendancies. But for now its fine (copium)

  • @seanackley7210
    @seanackley72107 ай бұрын

    There were actually a lot of sneaky nerfs that no one has talked about. Just like the mana leech. Divergent shield crush gone Phantasmal spectral shield throw gone If these don’t get a trans gem then this archetype is gigs nerfed.

  • @HansWurst-gm2rx

    @HansWurst-gm2rx

    7 ай бұрын

    Discharge aswell. There were builds that got to 95-100% Chance of not removing charges, which is now nowhere near possible anymore (mainly due to missing lab enchant). I am really disappointed by the uninspired nerfs (for e.g. Spark) and most likely the Transfigured Gems/Normal Gems not even being close in replacing Lab enchants in most cases.

  • @chriskeel3096
    @chriskeel30967 ай бұрын

    can already see it wont take but a few days for GGG to walk some of this back

  • @SabaDOP
    @SabaDOP7 ай бұрын

    is Impending doom path finder still doable ?

  • @gipsydanger5020
    @gipsydanger50207 ай бұрын

    I'm still trying to make sense of everything but their commentary of "making gems much stronger" doesn't seem like the case for certain gems, TS and Scourge Arrow. And SA wasn't in the best place to begin with anyway. The way GGG lately markets their league changes doesn't come off as genuine - "we're combining everything into gem's quality to make them powerful"

  • @1bullneck1
    @1bullneck17 ай бұрын

    quality is gonna be insanely broken. ashes + enhance 8 (enhance 5 + 1 to all skills + 2 support gems) -> 106% quality on lightning conduit for example would mean you get 21% more damage per 5% of shock effect. You can get up to 115% shock effect in theory. meaning the quality alone would get you 483% more damage in a 2 link.

  • @Bahzur

    @Bahzur

    7 ай бұрын

    Playing for the first time and i chose Enki's Lightning Conduit; i thought shock ist capped at 65% with 249% ailment effectiveness? The maximum i ever see ingame on mobs is 65% too.

  • @1bullneck1

    @1bullneck1

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Bahzur There are also sources of +flat max shock. I don't recall how exactly, but i remember it being 115%. Could be wrong though. It is def more than 65% though. Don't know how applicable it would be to actually build around, was just throwing out the numbers.

  • @circuitousprime

    @circuitousprime

    7 ай бұрын

    New lightning conduit quality is additive with the 21% more damage per 5% of shock effect on the gem (at gem levels 27-30) rather than being a new separate more multiplier. 20% quality to 106% quality will be ~58% more damage at 115% shock. 50% quality to 106% quality will be only ~31% more damage for an Enhance 8 if you're already using Ashes.

  • @BlackLight620
    @BlackLight6207 ай бұрын

    Lightning arrow players say it got buffed also able to switch to tornado shot earlier with is a buff

  • @Ceberox
    @Ceberox7 ай бұрын

    The loss of boot enchants will be rough. Over all we lost a bunch of power. %reserv helmet enchants alone are such a big hit. Its all just nerfs in fancy packaging.

  • @AGVenge
    @AGVenge7 ай бұрын

    Time of need is huge noob trap. You cant use unreliable regen for anything at all. Simple math will help you evaluate that it is very unlikely that you get hurt at the exact momement where you would benefit from the regen.

  • @Allthenameable
    @Allthenameable7 ай бұрын

    can you actually read the patch notes youre referring too for listeners?

  • @Atlantis357
    @Atlantis3577 ай бұрын

    Time of Need on Guardian should still be perfectly fine. Remember that Minions don't give any leech and Time of Need gives more than 5 vitalities worth of regen per second on average.

  • @lfantucci2011
    @lfantucci20117 ай бұрын

    Sst lost alt quality and threshold jewel?

  • @Vandurman
    @Vandurman7 ай бұрын

    I think that accuracy stackers are ok. GGG changes 2 accuracy mastery and 1 mark mastery from inc accuracy to more accutace (40%. 50% and 50%). This 3 mastery gives a total 1.4*1.5*1.5= x3.15 more multiplier (so it's x3 flat damage and x3 attack speed - that gives as nearly x9 DPS). We lost inc dmg from gem quality, but we still have inc damage from helm and bow. I think that accuracy stacking will be even stronger this league

  • @LumpyCrumpets

    @LumpyCrumpets

    7 ай бұрын

    But those masteries are conditional, so they shouldn't affect your character's stats, meaning you most likely won't get any benefit from them sadly.

  • @Vandurman

    @Vandurman

    7 ай бұрын

    @@LumpyCrumpets Pob say's that they will affect and they will give u dps. One mastery gives u accuracy at close range (then u play meele it's almost always), one gives accuracy agianst unique enemy's and last against marked enemy's. So the only situation then last two mastery doesn't give u accuracy is then u fight with white/blue trash

  • @LumpyCrumpets

    @LumpyCrumpets

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Vandurman Huh. Well fair enough, I guess I was off on that one

  • @xtreme_poe6451
    @xtreme_poe64517 ай бұрын

    Rip boot enchants

  • @codranine6054
    @codranine60547 ай бұрын

    I’m still not sure how I feel about no more helm enchants. Like I don’t get too much time to play and I actually hated farming lab for enchants. Now it’s even more important to run.

  • @conbeo8817

    @conbeo8817

    7 ай бұрын

    buy it from trade helm enchants = right helm base + right enchant now its only gem = easier

  • @Iamverystrong8
    @Iamverystrong87 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @Moppel1311
    @Moppel13117 ай бұрын

    Didnt even know you´re German xD thanks for the video :D

  • @tigerland277
    @tigerland2777 ай бұрын

    Love the bow joke :)

  • @bonesaw2716
    @bonesaw27167 ай бұрын

    hey pal do you have heartburn or something?

  • @bonesaw2716

    @bonesaw2716

    7 ай бұрын

    oh no wait that's just your noisegate

  • @wolfinthewoods1400
    @wolfinthewoods14007 ай бұрын

    RIP poison LS.... the funnest build Ive ever played.

  • @foreverknowforever6403
    @foreverknowforever64037 ай бұрын

    Gluttony Tide should be buffed with ralakesh changes

  • @eraman7
    @eraman77 ай бұрын

    So spark is dead or nah?

  • @Evil_Arthas

    @Evil_Arthas

    7 ай бұрын

    You're basically losing 1 extra hit on average - which probably means its lot worse. I think "Bow" tech is now the only good version to rely on since there is even more than need while spark had before - now just right

  • @user-pk9cf8gq9k
    @user-pk9cf8gq9k7 ай бұрын

    lots of mine builds lost throwing speed frm quality

  • @user-pk9cf8gq9k

    @user-pk9cf8gq9k

    7 ай бұрын

    so they can't get throwing speed frm spaming quality with Dialla's Malefaction And also lots of self casters lost Ralakesh's Impatience

  • @prosamis
    @prosamis7 ай бұрын

    Ele weakness also lost its curse effect in quality

  • @marcosdheleno

    @marcosdheleno

    7 ай бұрын

    is there any quality that ended as a buff? because the more i looked, the more i saw nerfs. for example, righteous fire lost its burning damage and got range, which is good, but its so small, you wont even notice unless you are using something that boost its quality.

  • @prosamis

    @prosamis

    7 ай бұрын

    @@marcosdheleno oh there are many buffs Ball lightning getting base radius is huge cause a lot of BL damage comes from messing with overlaps Bane now gives 1% curse effect with 1% quality. That's insane. Temp chains with 75% slower rate is back, so poison got a huge buff here Many other ones too. Especially for lesser used gems

  • @Nemrod10
    @Nemrod107 ай бұрын

    Last time GGG reduced a drop rate, Ashe of the start came from 1 div to 30. Care of GGG extremism

  • @marcosdheleno

    @marcosdheleno

    7 ай бұрын

    i mean, they cut heatshiver's extra damage from 100 to 30. and kaom went from needing 100 regen, to 300. they dont do nerfs, they do glorified ban hammers.

  • @Zylosio

    @Zylosio

    7 ай бұрын

    @@marcosdheleno heatshiver is still the best helmet for dmg lmao

  • @b0nes95
    @b0nes957 ай бұрын

    I wonder how many people agree that iLvL 83 Sanctums are easy content without a specialized/optimized build and uber expensive relics.

  • @killuahsmathetricks389
    @killuahsmathetricks3897 ай бұрын

    I would argue that kaoms spirit now is in a more balanced place now. Sure you dont have berserk as any random build now. But as e.g. CF champion you can easily skill the armour evasion burst life regen and still get like 12 average rage regen and 18-20 burst rage regen. Is it worde than before? Sure. Is it entirely dead for some builds? No.

  • @marcosdheleno

    @marcosdheleno

    7 ай бұрын

    its 1/3rd the amount of rage it used to give, and that's not counting builds that have regen with numbers that arent divisible by 300, which is most of them. ALOT of rage lost that way. is it still useable? sure, but dont expect it to be good. because it wont. in other words, its no longer something most builds will think about using, only very specific, builds will. so congrats on diminishing the viability of another unique.

  • @elvis8959
    @elvis89597 ай бұрын

    Nerfs toggle over lighting arrow and Ts doesn’t say anything did miss something here?

  • @zachlewis9751
    @zachlewis97517 ай бұрын

    With the new alt gems it’s kinda wrong to call gem changes a nerf. New alt gems could be stronger than old ones, they could be worse.

  • @elemfao500
    @elemfao5007 ай бұрын

    I dont even play these builds mentioned, im fine.

  • @Summit_of_Industry
    @Summit_of_Industry7 ай бұрын

    HAHAHAHHAHAHA you got me at TS and LA

  • @8bitpoe177
    @8bitpoe1777 ай бұрын

    La and tornado shot is not nerfed lol. Correct me if I'm wrong

  • @Zylosio

    @Zylosio

    7 ай бұрын

    since kaoms and heatshiver got nerfed its a bit worse, but they are still probably the best skills in the game

  • @8bitpoe177

    @8bitpoe177

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Zylosio im sure with the new ascendency will be as op or even better

  • @tindekappa9047
    @tindekappa90477 ай бұрын

    Chances are most of the alt quality gems that people used are still in the game. It's the useless one that got reworked. If GGG knows what they're doing.

  • @notskrub7013
    @notskrub70137 ай бұрын

    Cold dot is also pretty kill. Vortex has a cast time now and does way less dmg. Weird, cause cold dot was already pretty mid imo Also heatshiver is completely dead and no amount of coping will ever revive it. But I guess it had it coming, common unique being so turbo broken was eventually gonna catch the ire of ggg

  • @remus6846

    @remus6846

    7 ай бұрын

    cold dot isnt mid at all i played it this league and it was really great

  • @TheEternalVortex42

    @TheEternalVortex42

    7 ай бұрын

    Heatshiver still gives 50% more damage. What other helmet beats that?

  • @apalsnerg

    @apalsnerg

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@remus6846 If bait, very nice.

  • @remus6846

    @remus6846

    7 ай бұрын

    @@apalsnerg not bait i league started it and it was great i am not saying its broken or op but its great its not anymore tho they killed vortex

  • @Juuz9

    @Juuz9

    7 ай бұрын

    @notskrub7013 insanely delusional you are. Heatshiver is now in spot where he should be, strong helmet, but not busted, so now you have to consider if smtng isnt stronger. Previously you just took heatshiver n called it good, now you have to think

  • @alvinlau256
    @alvinlau2567 ай бұрын

    Your are killing me with the pronouncing "Camp's spirit"

  • @tnc4700
    @tnc47007 ай бұрын

    Spark + widowhail should feel fine i think

  • @madhatten5123

    @madhatten5123

    7 ай бұрын

    Except that if your left side of the tree and running widowhail your end game spark builds total movement abilities is going to be running and flame dashing and that’s it…. No thanks that sounds pretty terrible

  • @phonoacid

    @phonoacid

    7 ай бұрын

    @@madhatten5123 Not that bad to run with magleblood +3x15%flask effect charms evan on the left side of the tree:)

  • @madhatten5123

    @madhatten5123

    7 ай бұрын

    @@phonoacid I mean once u have a mageblood everything works, but I guess I did say end game so I set myself up for that. Touché

  • @ekoene6162
    @ekoene61627 ай бұрын

    Moleten strike boys ❤

  • @kingfisher1638
    @kingfisher16387 ай бұрын

    You didn't mention the huge nerf to generals cry. They removed 50% cdr from it.

  • @Alphearan

    @Alphearan

    7 ай бұрын

    They removed 20 though. Unless you were enhancing/ashes

  • @kingfisher1638

    @kingfisher1638

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Alphearan You are forgetting the helm enchant. 20 qual + 30 from helm is 50. also no more tattoos so its pretty much dead unless the tranfig is god tier.

  • @Alphearan

    @Alphearan

    7 ай бұрын

    @@kingfisher1638 Ah true. Yeah fair enough. Honestly even if they didn’t change those two things. It was probably already dead just from tattoos being gone in a lot of peoples eyes

  • @kingfisher1638

    @kingfisher1638

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Alphearan It was my favorite skill and they nerfed it only because corrupting cry shako was overtuned... I am gutted.

  • @Alphearan

    @Alphearan

    7 ай бұрын

    @@kingfisher1638 well at least you get an extra clone. It’s at least something

  • @goldenducky12
    @goldenducky127 ай бұрын

    One major "nerf" (more of a bug fix) was for ralakesh boots. Pretty much seems like it gets rid of the interaction with discharge builds.

  • @derpizzadieb

    @derpizzadieb

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah, "counting as maximum charges" doesnt leave discharge any charges to remove as far as i understand

  • @finalfragment8432
    @finalfragment84327 ай бұрын

    heatshiver was overpowered but no build that used it was overpowered that is the main thing. its just the main piece that made allot of builds work now its gone and gone are all the builds that used it.

  • @Seelenverheizer

    @Seelenverheizer

    7 ай бұрын

    its not good for a unique to prob up so many builds. GGG mentioned they will do so number adjustments in Ascendendies and gems in the future likely to even out extreme imbalances these gem changes will bring. But mark my words, this is a massive late endgame nerf by like 50% powerlevel. Floor went up but the cieling came crashing down.

  • @madhatten5123

    @madhatten5123

    7 ай бұрын

    Frost blades was doing like 480 million damage on a min/maxed build. Thats not broken?

  • @marcosdheleno

    @marcosdheleno

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Seelenverheizer why not? that's the whole point of uniques in PoE. since 90% is complete trash nobody uses, because the game demands so much yellow crafted stuff. if anything, uniques SHOULD be build defining. that's what make them useable in PoE in the first place.

  • @finalfragment8432

    @finalfragment8432

    7 ай бұрын

    @@madhatten5123 ya no if a build is well known and is not considered as a top build by top players than certainly it is not OP. u can think that its op all you want but does your measure of what is op really matter?

  • @madhatten5123

    @madhatten5123

    7 ай бұрын

    @@finalfragment8432 I can read a path of building just like a content creator. Kobe was playing top end frost blade builds over a year ago. Its one of the best clear skills in the game the problem it has always had is single target. Heatershiver solved that so you take one of best clear skills in the game and solve its weaknesses. The only thing bow builds really have on frost blades is raw speed. You my friend are a sheep if you believe what you see on youtube more than what you can see with your own eyes.

  • @exileexile9296
    @exileexile92967 ай бұрын

    KOM not kam!

  • @yuriperess4828
    @yuriperess48287 ай бұрын

    Next are the hidden nerfs that you'll discover when the game released 😂

  • @onerimeuse
    @onerimeuse7 ай бұрын

    Love that healthy attitude of "it is what it is" with the changes. Like, whoa, sorry you guys can't just play the exact same thing. To me, that's the beauty of this game, is thinking through things and creatively working through how to get something to it's highest potential. That's what keeps poe fresh and alive!

  • @ConradMarbourg3635

    @ConradMarbourg3635

    7 ай бұрын

    Indeed, I was new to the game and like it so far but since they killed the build that i learn to play and have no desire to invest Time to learn a new one, i just leave this game. I might try poe 2 but that is all. Sad cause the game was nice but as you said it is what it is

  • @madhatten5123

    @madhatten5123

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ConradMarbourg3635you were planning to only play 1 build forever? What build did they actually kill because I don’t see anything that isn’t playable…,, Ah let me guess RF right. Anyways if these changes run you off you were not meant for this game. Bye

  • @quantumhawk806

    @quantumhawk806

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@madhatten5123RF is buffed as far as I see it tbh. Just have to play a different style.

  • @marcosdheleno

    @marcosdheleno

    7 ай бұрын

    @@quantumhawk806 how is it a buff? you need to invest heavily into es to make up for the loss, its now far less useable ealy game due to low max hp/es. and it lost burning damage on the quality. its only buffed on extremely end game builds.

  • @stoplosinglilboy1461

    @stoplosinglilboy1461

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@marcosdheleno "how Is it a buff" then proceed to explain how it's a buff srry you gotta leagestart a diff build to have a stronger version of skill in endgame oh my what a nerf

  • @Seelenverheizer
    @Seelenverheizer7 ай бұрын

    I suspect there will be a transfigured spark that always poisons and has 100% conversion as well. But i do agree its a massive nerf. I played spark to mid endgame (200div invest build) Inquisitor and i must say the power already wasnt there. Its limited in map and league choise, tankyness is subpar and overall for the investment i could easily get a much better build. I wouldnt touch it with a 50 foot pole.

  • @QUU1108
    @QUU11087 ай бұрын

    0.1 second into the video, instalike, great content as usual Pal

  • @lupercalius89
    @lupercalius897 ай бұрын

    How big is the nerf on LA?(lightning arrow)

  • @cIappo896
    @cIappo8967 ай бұрын

    Melee got fucked. Like, in multiple ways. Alt quality CoC in Disfavour was 50% more damage without any of the downsides other melee DPS gems had with the 10% less ASP. That's literally the single best melee DPS gem with that axe.

  • @mikenieradko8877
    @mikenieradko88777 ай бұрын

    Another POE patch where melee is garbage, except for boneshatter which is only 90% garbage and kills itself in the process.

  • @restarting9213
    @restarting92137 ай бұрын

    Besides for really Tanky map mobs i don't think that Heatshiver really got a big nerf, same dmg on bosses since they can't get frozen

  • @Alphearan

    @Alphearan

    7 ай бұрын

    They can be frozen. It just sets them to the minimum action speed. If you freeze a boss, you can just hover over their health bar and clearly see it.

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