*TimeStamp:* 00:29 - Introduction & on Film Criticism 07:35 - Opinion Pieces vs Critical Dissection 14:13 - Big Goal as a Film Critic 20:41 - Writing in No Time 23:25 - Critics vs Business 30:00 - Sundance Film Festival 38:10 - Movies at Sundance 40:55 - on Photograph 45:28 - on Blinded by the Light 47:42 - on Paddleton 52:18 - on One Child Nation 54:51 - on Midnight Family 57:13 - on Disappearance of My Mother 58:20 - on Documentary Films 59:35 - on Throat Singing in Kangirsuk 01:01:58 - on Honey Boy 01:07:28 - on Velvet Buzzsaw 01:10:40 - on Wounds 01:13:42 - on Hole in the Ground 01:19:30 - on Big Time Adolescence 01:23:30 - on Oscars 2019

@rayofficial5170

5 жыл бұрын

Last part of the podcast was really interesting. I wish to hear more of the multi films discussion....hope from next time you'll invest more time in discussion and not q&a. But it was enjoyable. Last part was best. Thanks for putting light on documentaries in india.

@kavish369

5 жыл бұрын

You start a movie debate/fight podcast (watch screen junkies)

@CinemaBeyondEntertainment

5 жыл бұрын

No fights, only love :P :)

@anantmokashi3381

5 жыл бұрын

This is just great.

@smilingbuddha

5 жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter. I listened everything :)

Thanks for bringing Rahul Desai👏

Thank you for letting this interview run long. Sometimes, More is More. The whole podcast was dense with content and yet completely accessible. Strong work!

Wow .... This was a good one!! Took me an entire day but kept coming back to it ! Very informative :-)

I may not agree with all that he says but I can't deny that Rahul is on the path to become the Indian Roger Ebert. Witty, insightful and even more acerbic than the Master himself - love his reviews!

@somrawat1161

5 жыл бұрын

bardwaj rangan is already the indian roger ebert for me.rahul desai's reviews do not resonate with me that much.

@sirlordhenrymortimer6620

5 жыл бұрын

@@somrawat1161 no, you're all missing the point . A great film critic not only needs to have his basic fundamentals of films perfect but needs to have his own unique views for philosophy and arts . That's what separates a gene siskel, paulene Kiel, Roger Ebert from the run of the hill critics

@somrawat1161

5 жыл бұрын

@@sirlordhenrymortimer6620 ya sure......i like ebert and rangan more because many times i have noticed that they have given words to the abstract feelings or emotions which i felt while watching the movie which i could not have done or would have done in a very illeterate way.Rahul Desai i find a bit elitist which is why i dont like his reviews

@sirlordhenrymortimer6620

5 жыл бұрын

@@somrawat1161 I don't follow Indian film critics but if you really want to update yourself about films I recommend you go join roger Eberts official site and join bfi or regularly read their sight and sound magazine . It's really great and to refine your taste subscribe to mubi(by the way I am not paid to write this stuff). You won't feel left out a lot of movies that Desai talks off are actually film festival films or independent films which are really inaccessible to commoners , especially casual cine goers .

@amitabhsharma3916

5 жыл бұрын

@@sirlordhenrymortimer6620 Are the current reviews on Ebert's site as good as the ones he used to write? The only reviewer from that website whose stuff I've read is Christy Lemire and she is amazing. I'm curious as to how good the other ones are

Now here is the depth and nuance that was missing in episode 1. Thank you for introducing me to Anand Patwardhan. At first I was hesitant about the decision of podcasting but it seems to be a lot more informative and enriching.

Vinit it felt like an interview. Please engage more in the discussion and make it bilateral. It got excited by the end, I wish you talked more about movies... Still enjoyed

Hey Vinit, Loved this podcast and your earlier videos. The way you see the film and explain the nuances is quite remarkable and rare in India. I would love to see more such videos on your channel. It would be great if you can talk about great movies from the world cinema. Generally we don't get to know about them. Thanks again for Bringing Rahul Desai and kudos to your effort.

I love this channel!Please never stop making videos... I miss your video essays... upload vdos on filmmaking for budding filmmakers

Great conversations both of u..really enjoyed it

This podcast is a dope.. I have my list ready of movies for the next weekend!!!

Rahul Desai.... Nailed it Thanks for bringing him

Thanks to both of u.

Take a shot every time he says writing

@amritaoxymoron1944

4 жыл бұрын

@ Suyash... Awesome. 😂 ✌

Next Bhardwaj Rangan

In India the scenario of film criticism is very miserable. Apart from the the popular journalistic reviews , we don't have any serious , scholastic journal of films like film comment, sight and sound.

@sirlordhenrymortimer6620

5 жыл бұрын

That's because Indian art scene sucks

@amiyanath7848

5 жыл бұрын

@@sirlordhenrymortimer6620 very true

@sirlordhenrymortimer6620

5 жыл бұрын

@@amiyanath7848 all things are interconnected we can't make good films because we don't have great art scene. Our directors rarely experiments and for some reason we always fall for the lowest common denominator

@saiashwin26

5 жыл бұрын

@@sirlordhenrymortimer6620 Actually there are experiments done but those films never see the light of the day. Classic example is Om Dar-B-Dar

@sirlordhenrymortimer6620

5 жыл бұрын

@@saiashwin26 it's a great film, probably good absurdist piece of art ,we need more of it . If you count monetary return as an yardstick ,than experimental films will always flop at box office afterall polinsky's tenant , mellick's TOL , corn brother's Burton finks all failed at box office. Well, the experimental films of ray,ghatak, Sen worked I can't see why it can't work now Ship of Theseus, court,masaan, lunch box (classic Oscar bait movie, but I will give it a pass) .........we need to consistently churn out more of these films And on dar b dar inspired a certain Anurag kashyap, imitiaz Ali so, you may never know what inspires the next gen.

Get Varun grover plss...

Thank you for this podcast Vinit Bhai 😊😊

The end part of tge podcast is the best thing.....not about oscars but they're talking about some hidden/ ignored films of the year which deserved more than the oscar nominations. Try talking more about movies man. Enjoyed

First of all, Thank You for the upload. Now I am gonna watch it.

Hey Vinit could you please upload the audio version too, to difficult to devour 1.5 hour of audio on youtube

@CinemaBeyondEntertainment

5 жыл бұрын

Audio versions are available only for Patreon members. Their monetary input helps sustain the channel hence that exclusivity. If possible, you too can become a Patreon member and get access to the audio version as well. Link is in the description.

46:30 bookmark

I have been waiting for video

thank you for this podcast vinit.

Great podcast . If u could list out the names of movies u discussed that would be great too. Loved ur taste for movies . Thanks man keep doing such podcast.

Is your podcast available on any podcast app or website?

Great podcast.. A Ques that what are your tips for cracking and how to prepare for ftii admission

Vinit, BR next please?

Vinit sir can you enlighten us on a way or a roadmap of sorts which one can follow to get into film criticism?

Such an intriguing podcast. It's great to see Rahul here. I agree this year's Oscars went wrong in some directions but still Oscars celebrates cinema like no other award show in the whole world, so it's good to hear Indian movie critics talk about Oscars on an Indian platform when most other Indian film critics and channels are busy with ekta kapoor and bhuvan bam!

Welcome Your new subscriber. What a Channel !

Rahul speaks & writers so well, thought i didn't always agree with him

hey vinit, what is your view on roma movie

I think its probably time for your podcast to get on spotify.

Listening to Rahul Desai is my idea of happy time.

Vinit sir wat is ur opinion about heriditary .....did u enjoy it or....???

Thanks for this video

Please upload it with the video...

Finally! I enjoy podcasts more. There's so much to learn. Going by the pattern, I am expecting anupama chopra in the next episode. Please bring rajeev masand some day!

@dummycandidate9575

5 жыл бұрын

@@sidharthmalhotra5931 I wasn't aware of that. Let me check.

@sumitpandey9009

5 жыл бұрын

Rajeev Masand is a brilliant critic. Except he reveals the plot a bit, which I don't like. So I watch the reviews after watching the movie.

@dummycandidate9575

5 жыл бұрын

@@sidharthmalhotra5931 I am not seeing anything in the community tab of this channel! What was vineet's comment though?

@dummycandidate9575

5 жыл бұрын

@@sidharthmalhotra5931 Guys are just fuckin' idiots on KZread. They just wanna be in teams and create chaos. I think it gives them a sense of purpose. I don't think vineet overanalyzes. That's the main purpose of his channel and it's really interesting. I like both vineet and rajeev. I don't think he should be reading comments. What was his comment about rajeev though?

@dummycandidate9575

5 жыл бұрын

Vineet if you're reading this I just want you to know that we really appreciate what u do and I know that youtube is not ur main source of income, but if you wanna grow on KZread start uploading more videos. At least twice a week. Your channel will explode if u do that. Also start reviewing movies, not all of them but at least the better ones. Like u could review gully boy or some web series! God bless.

Logan and the Dark Knight was ignored by the Oscars But Black Panther got nominated for Best Picture

@sirlordhenrymortimer6620

5 жыл бұрын

It's because of black lobby and political correctness

Rahul is the best part of Film companion

Wonderful podcast. How about the next podcast has your subscribers asking you the questions and you answering them???

Last 10 min was good

hi, who were who were you guys mentioning about indian documentaries? would like to watch his work

@CinemaBeyondEntertainment

5 жыл бұрын

Anand Patwardhan

@mukultiwari4447

5 жыл бұрын

@@CinemaBeyondEntertainment thanks for the reply

Rahul's review of First Man was his one of the best...that line:"He only loved his daughter to moon and back"

@justhangingaround804

4 жыл бұрын

Micky Myth Rahul is one of the best reviewers and writer in general. But that line doesn’t belong to him. It is a very common phrase in the west, so much so that it’s trite at times. Having said that, I loved that review as well.

Please make the list of best movies you watched in 2018

LOVE LOVE THIS 💖❤️🔥💖🔥❤️🔥💖🔥❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Good to spend some time on quality content.

Ethan Hawke gave the best performance of the year, Jonny should've been nominated for his soundtrack and Thom for original song at least. But they nominated the song from RBG which was ridiculous and that doc was basically the wikipedia summary anyway it didn't deserve the nom either.

I want you to analyze Tumbbad . It's style of story telling, the framing, the runtime ,the acting ..How do you rate it ! Is it just another Bollywood movie or an indie movie ..where will you categorize it in the movie making world. I have not yet seen it's true analysis from anyone !

@CinemaBeyondEntertainment

5 жыл бұрын

INDIE movie isn't a quality benchmark. It's a production category. And yes, Tumbbad is a indie film. And a very very good film.

@saishnatekar683

5 жыл бұрын

@@CinemaBeyondEntertainment ..yes I did not mean to say that it is a quality benchmark . But yes I am glad you found it to be a good film. Hoping for an in-depth analysis soon !

sir, you should more frequently upload videos. miss them a lot. and please start movie reviews

Talk about the web series Scared Games, Soni, & Mirzapur

the last half is kind of out of context for me as i dont know half the movies he was talking and some movies didnt make me interested but enjoyed listening. Compared to the last podcast, vineet sounded more excited and the length of the podcast shows that. I think when you are talking to someone you look upto its more exciting . Mr Rajeev Masand and Mr Bhardwaj Rangan next pls!

Somewhere in the 5th part Vinit Masram mentions about the mediocre filmmaking in Hindi Cinema from 1965-1980.Although I disagree that the movement of parallel cinema started in 1980(benegal had already started in 1974;MS Sathyu made Garam Hawa in '72) . Guru Dutt's untimely death in '65 according to me could be one of the reasons for lack of great cinema post '65.His death was sad because it dismantled the whole team(Dutt,Abrar Alvi,VK Murthy,Rehman,SD Burman,Waheeda Rehman,Sahir Ludhianvi).

@CinemaBeyondEntertainment

5 жыл бұрын

That wasn't a comment on the quality of cinema because Hindi cinema churned out great movies continuously. And I never used the the term mediocre filmmaking either. That comment was directed towards a noticeable change or diversion from the philosophy of storytelling and story ideas in Hindi cinema.

please make more videos

The respect I have for Oscars is deteriorating year by year and I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks political agendas and representation, etc shouldn't be criteria for judging art. Movies that were totally snubbed this year according to me include You were never really here, Eighth Grade, Mandy(atleast a nomination for cinematography), The Sisters Brothers and Hereditary.

First man is great,the music is fucking awesome.

I watched Tumbad cause I read your review

We really missed u vineet

Is Vinit the Joe Rogan of Indian Cinema? 🤔👍👌 Did you guys smoke a joint or two while recording this? 😁

@Samveg

5 жыл бұрын

Vinit have you ever done DMT?

Please enjoy Intriguism Moving Pictures’ “Curse of the Swine-Beast” -- a comedy satire of Ed Wood, William Castle and Roger Corman films and review. Thanks.

And I thought I knew about film criticism!!!!

Hey, what's your take on the oscars2019? For me it bombed and totally failed to do anything special. Right from the get go , important award being given on commercial breaks. Cringe worthy movies getting selected for best pictures nominee. And finally a proper Oscar bait movie winning the best film of the year's award.

@dragonstormdipro1013

5 жыл бұрын

Green book was horrible

@sirlordhenrymortimer6620

5 жыл бұрын

@@dragonstormdipro1013 Roma or the favourite should've won.

@numbnut

5 жыл бұрын

Birds of passage or burning should be nominated atleast.

@sirlordhenrymortimer6620

5 жыл бұрын

@@numbnut not only that but films like widows, at eternity gate, mission impossible (going by the standards), heredity, 8th grade are also snubbed

@bathecat9834

5 жыл бұрын

@@sirlordhenrymortimer6620 but it was not very much appealing to general audience u must have to agree me on this it takes to 2 to 3 sittings to watch roma i know it requires patience i will call that movie a masterpiece

54:51 Actually America is also very famous for having expensive ambulances.The hospitals charge thousands of dollars, hence why many use Uber instead of 911 to reach a hospital.

@CinemaBeyondEntertainment

5 жыл бұрын

THOUSANDS! WTF! Do these ambulances fly or what!

@saiashwin26

5 жыл бұрын

@@CinemaBeyondEntertainment Lol, thats why Healthcare in America is so fucked

Is it possible to do video podcast ???

@CinemaBeyondEntertainment

5 жыл бұрын

No budget and crew

Total dhamaal...Still recovering from it 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@NephilaClavata

5 жыл бұрын

He didn't even see the trailer so he had no warning 😂

WIDOWS should have got the nomination at least, and I like cold war, more than Roma

Baradwaj rangan please

did you like vice

So then next up is Anupama Chopra? Pls bring some diverse academic voices from the Industry, Vinit.

@CinemaBeyondEntertainment

5 жыл бұрын

Define diverse.

Where the fuck did all the community posts go?

We want an Avinash tiwary interview #Avinashtiwaryonfc

Joker movie pr kuch banao

Ethan Hawke in First Reformed, what a performance and what a propaganda Oscars have become now. PS guys everyone should check out The Lobster by Yorgos Lanthimos.

You should have talked about Green Book

Oscar is a sham...US's filmfare!

why not u taking face to face interview, like u did with anil mehta, it will be better actually

Is he happy today, he is very sad always

Vinit's voice is not audible enough, not as much as Rahul's. Rahul have spoken more throughout the podcast so, it is really difficult to understand Vinit's voice in between during tge traffic.

Avatar was nominated ... So ? It was a great movie. It was an ambitious movie. If the story has some Indian sensibilities doesn't mean it is bad..

@karthikeyas7900

5 жыл бұрын

But the movie itself is pretty forgettable.

@sagarthorat9175

5 жыл бұрын

@@karthikeyas7900 Not for the world audience. The Indians had a lot of familiarity with the theme, with the sadhu type chants at the end and the hero falling in love with clan chief's daughter.. but the movie was good and it's rightfully nominated

@CinemaBeyondEntertainment

5 жыл бұрын

Watch 'Last of the Mohicans' and 'Pocahontas' and see where those 'Indian Sensibilities' are borrowed from.

@sagarthorat9175

5 жыл бұрын

@@CinemaBeyondEntertainment the name itself is Indian.. Avatar. the sensibilities may be universal but they are overdone in Indian cinema and hence my point is that most Indians will have more familiarity to Avatar than the western audience...and Familiarity breeds contempt naturally.. I remember watching it in Imax in Mumbai and the audience were mockful at ending scenes of chanting where they are doing the body transfer.. But it's a very good film and deserves Oscar nomination .

@CinemaBeyondEntertainment

5 жыл бұрын

Okay... If you say so.

Superb conversation. So many great movies to watch. Rahul Desai is so interesting when he talks about specific movies n Sundance. But severely boring first 30 minutes. Pls don't talk about the 'craft' of film reviewing again.

@CinemaBeyondEntertainment

5 жыл бұрын

Why?

@aruncatarun

5 жыл бұрын

@@CinemaBeyondEntertainment because it's a job, like any other job. It is interesting to you and not many other ppl (in my opinion). One ends up elevating the hardships one faces and all the sacrifices one makes. Every single person faces these. It self-aggrandizing. And we've heard it before. You don't want to give numerical scores and u wish ppl wud stop forcing u to give them. You're frequently asked why u gave a higher score to one film n not the other. U are asked why u don't make films instead of just reviewing them. U are frequently trolled. We've heard it all. Noone knows or cares what is the difference between opinion peices n criticism. But, don't get me wrong. I love the output. Ur film criticism n analysis are brilliant and so is Rahul's work.

@CinemaBeyondEntertainment

5 жыл бұрын

So what is wrong if someone who goes through it want to express it. Timestamp is there to skip such sections for people who don't want to listen to that. I am not going dictate what people should and shouldn't express on my show. I don't even edit anything out. You find certain sections boring, skip it. You find the person boring, skip the episode. Let's not tell people what to talk and not to talk about when you are getting it all to consume for free.

@aruncatarun

5 жыл бұрын

@@CinemaBeyondEntertainment point taken - about the time stamp. The part about it being 'free' was unnecessary. It's ironic that a film critic/analyst is touchy about ppl commenting on his work

@CinemaBeyondEntertainment

5 жыл бұрын

By Touchy if you mean shutting down unnecessary remark on people's willingness to talk any topic, then yeah, I will gladly be touchy about it. Make a counter argument instead of telling people not to talk about a specific thing. That way, a discourse can take place.

add video than podcast ... podcast se interest nahi rahta

First................ To Comment last

But i am not impressed by gully boy and ranveer performances

Am I wasting my time?

10 mins into this and I’m already bored with rahul. It sounds like a diplomatic interview rather than 2 dudes discussing their taste and views on films, criticism, methods and style. Its painful to hear. Sorry can’t hear anymore already bored.

@youisstupid2586

5 жыл бұрын

I can't believe I am saying this but sucharitas podcast was much more interesting

So enriching podcast ♥️