Excellent project! I can imagine using this at the DMV to fill out forms :)

@thewolfin

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I bet the DMV lady would raise a stink even if you signed it with a pen

@ianbelletti6241

Жыл бұрын

The DMV is slow enough. They don't need a tool that's designed to slow them down.

@mahekorvenoges550

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The DMV probably has multi-layered forms on carbonless copy paper. You would need to hit the print bars with a tiny hammer to make the lower layers readable.

@outbakjak

Жыл бұрын

YES make the employees as miserable waiting on you as you are waiting on them 😈

I love projects that are beautiful, meticulously designed, and of extremely dubious utility.

As a nerdy prototype machinist and former tool & die guy, I appreciate this from many angles. Found via Hackaday (congrats!) I love that you didn't go buy the slitting saw and made it and heat treated it, even though theyre commonly available in that size. I also love that you chose rivetting. To hold odd sized objects in collets you don't have sizes for, you can either wrap shim stock around the object to increase its size, or turn a brass or aluminum rod the size of collet, and drill out the diameter of the object. Split it with a dremel tool so it can collapse, you now have a modular emergency collet custom for that part that fits in your main collet. I especially liked the dovetail undercut for fingernails. A lot of clever in this, great work 👏

This is a cool project. As a typewriter hobbyist, an index or typewheel based typewriter might be more effective than one using typebars. Take a look at the Junior or Bennett typewriters as an example. A Simplex might also be a good example to observe. Tiny and portable typewriters is a fascinating area of history to study.

@briannacluck5494

Жыл бұрын

I could see a tiny typewriter wheel shaped kind of like a pitch pipe working really well

@glowytheglowbug

Жыл бұрын

imagine him using a typeball

@zacharybennett3249

Жыл бұрын

Ask me why I read this

@thetinkeringtypist

Жыл бұрын

@@zacharybennett3249 please, tell me. Why did you read this?

@zacharybennett3249

Жыл бұрын

@@thetinkeringtypist No. But thank you!

Firstly, the proper term for "striker bar" is "typebar", and the "type head" is called the "slug" which is typically produced by a foundry and soldered onto the typebar with special soldering gauges. Early typewriters likewise performed the shift by moving the platen (black rubber roller / paper holder) instead of the type basket; this is called "carriage shift" as opposed to "basket/segment shift". There have actually been many attempts at "pocket typewriters" in the past, each of these generally using what is called a "single type element" or a wheel that has all of the characters on them. Since KZread doesn’t like links, I can only give search instructions or the names of specific typewriters. “ETCetera back issues” will bring up the page for all the following relevant ETCetera journal issues: page 6 of Issue #57, page 5 of Issue #77, page 3 of Issue #82 for single-handed pocket typewriters, and page 5 of Issue #105 for coverage of the Taurus which is effectively an early manual label maker; in fact, modern manual label makers are among the last surviving "index typewriters" (originally produced as a budget option compared to the very expensive typebar typewriters of the time), some of which you can fit into your pocket. These designs were capable of holding a paper tape and automatically aligning the print. The approach of having just a set of type slugs and manually inking and pressing them is seen in the Ingersoll "typewriter". Also, the use of ink pads instead of ribbons dates back to the Williams, Yost, and Jackson typewriters among others.

@thetinkeringtypist

Жыл бұрын

It's nice seeing other ETCetera readers in the wild

Ah, its press based!, i was VERY confused how you managed to make the mechanism fit in such a small area! Granted always can be version 2 i guess!

A more practical device is a changeable rubber stamp kit. I used them to to fill out forms. The kit came with movable type, a holder and ink pad.

@SnakebitSTI

Ай бұрын

I was thinking the same. A miniaturized version of one of those with just a single character would be very compact and easier to use. And it could still use metal type to get the look of a typewriter.

I wonder if a hand held mechanical dot matrix printer with a cylindrical look-up table for the pin selection is possible. You'd have a selection wheel for the given letter that sets the start and finish stops so that when you moved the unit over the paper a wheel would pick up the position information to allow the next row of pins to be selected. I bet a watch maker could create such a thing but it would be horribly complicated, still a marvel to behold.

@LuxurioMusic

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I can imagine something like this, using a dot array and a daisy wheel with the pin data on it. To simplify things for I'd make the font monospaced, and I'd probably use 5 dotwidths to a character. (tbh I'd probably use a 5x5 matrix bc those make very cute fonts). You'd set the wheel, then use a button at the top of the contraption to press it down onto the printing material. For automatic scrolling, you could use the same mechanism that a camera uses to advance film, so the button you press would punch down the dot matrix through typewriter ribbon, spring it back up, then latch onto the scrolling mechanism so all of that could be done in one motion. I was going to say that because it's handheld, I'd expect it to be easy to accidentally move and so it would be hard to get it to hold its place , but now I think I misunderstood what you meant, I took it to mean setting one character at a time, scroll, then set another character, but maybe you meant setting it a line at a time, like a typesetting rolling pin, or a string of daisy wheels together? Edit: Wait no, so it would print a single character at a time, but have a memory, to move x amount to get to the next character before? I feel like that would take up a lot of space, so I definitely see why you mention watchmakers.

@melody3741

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Getting proper ink flow for it would be a nightmare, especially if you wanted to be precise and have it look like a real font. As a watchmaker, this seems impossible to make by hand

@DanielSMatthews

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@@melody3741 Yes each pin may have to be hollow and use an individual pump per deployment mechanism. As the pin is selected and it descends into position a pumping action would need to load it with a set amount of ink of the right stickiness and viscosity. As for what is possible, who said how small you needed to make it? BTW have you ever worked with using optical masks and metal etching to make parts? MEMS devices can be very complex and incredibly small. kzread.info/dash/bejne/m4R70tGOfpWfqs4.html

@gcewing

Ай бұрын

The IBM 026 card punch actually used a completely mechanical dot matrix printer to print characters along the top of the card. A 5x7 array of fine wires splayed out through a casting to a code plate. The plate was positioned to select the character and then pressed against the ends of the wires.

@DanielSMatthews

Ай бұрын

@@gcewing That is a very obscure rabbit hole to jump down! If you use the wayback machine you can find 225-6535-5_24-Base_Machines_FEMM_Dec65.pdf See Page 39, section 2.11 Print Unit Also S225-3358-4_29_FETOM_Mar70.pdf has a diagram of the wires, Figure 2-55. Print Wires

You've got an INSANE workshop setup! Can't wait for more builds in the future!

I found watching this truly fascinating! I love how you show and narrate the process from idea to CAD to finish. Your demeanor is just right for this kind of thing, relaxing but not too slow or boring! Honestly that's a skill in of it's own. You sir have earned a sub from me and I wish you more success in future endeavors!

As someone who owns 16 typewriters this video was an awesome watch, take my subscription!

I love how totally impractical this is! Awesome!

Whoa, making a similar one with a typeball would be an interesting idea. I love the way you presented your process. Looking forward for more!

Sometimes you're just really impressed by someone who's got remarkable skills in their area and you can't help but applaud it

This is like a Swiss Army Knife/multitool fever dream, and I love it! I’m very impressed with your dedication to your hobby!

The SHIFT key, huh, I never knew that! This was fun, I was unsure how it was going to end, but I guess that's probably the only way to make a pocket typewriter! :)

I think this is an interesting idea; but I think the execution leaves a lot to be desired. First & foremost, the main value a typewriter adds is speed to writing. In this way it’s a fairly poor typewriter. Using a set of punch letters would be faster hahaha. But in terms of idea; I think you have room to take this to it’s most logical conclusion. Two ideas worth examining is the type matrix or type box of old teletype machines. It’s a square grid of type slugs in a box. Pretty easy to control with XY coordinates, or a mechanical baudaut code interpreter. Second is chinese typewriters; they use a stylus to select a character, imprint it, and return it to the typecase. A pocket typewriter I think would combine there two ideas. You’d have a typebox, which slides in the X & Y axis, the movement coupled & controlled by a reticule/cursor, which however’s over a qwerty type chart. Since the chart matches the arrangement of the type, typing is straightforward. The reticule has a single button or key, sprung, and on a pivot, so it strikes the type slug in the box but only the selected character. This provides a consistent impression. The lever should also advance a ratchet & pawl, therefore moving a rubber roller one character space. (The other bearings being two wheels or ball bearings) (And advancing the ink ribbon), the whole assembly therefore should wind up about computer mouse sized or phone sized, but actually offer a real value. It also should be fairly simple mechanically. Also each type slug should be sprung so they are in contact with the page only when they’ve been struck. Interestingly this problem has been solved before. Because architects & engineers needed to letter drawings, and hand lettering is time consuming. Technical drawings are usually too big for typewriters, even wide platten bookkeeping models. So you make a typewriter that types on a flat surface. The Blickenderfer architect’s typewriter, rides on a drafting machine scale with teeth set into it; typing moves it along the rack, and strikes the page in india ink, applied from a pad. They’re not large, almost pocket sized. But fairly similar. An alternative proposition, is a type drum, with the type arranged around a drum, and positionally matched to a corresponding drum with the reticule, and a striker key sitting below the drum, this saving you the number of springs for the type to ones necessary to return the carriage to neutral. (Also substantially easier than making a type ball). Since the paper is flat however, you’ll only be able to have one character in a row, since two or more rows would imprint at a time if struck. The more characters you need, the larger the drum. (However if the characters are rubber, it could be more compact as a belt.)

Thats really cool. I mean its a stamp set using type bars so not a type writer, but really neat

Watching this video on my own portable typewriter! I like yours better though

This isn’t a pocket typewriter. It’s just a stamp set…

I still say you should use this as your new way to sign receipts.

This is so cool and funny as a machinist project. A perfect curio! I do hope, for the V2, that you add a spring-load bar. Then you can pull back the striker of choice and let fly under spring pressure, and get that classic tywriter Thwack!... just a bit more slowly

lol, its a very, very overbuilt dial stamp! i have a bunch of dial stamps from when i used to work in an office that still used an ibm selectric. we had a few dial stamps that you could select any letter and they were 4 or 5 characters long. i believe i had a dial stamp that was only one character, so you could slowly spell out any word. your method is certainly more entertaining, but a dial stamp is a fraction of the size and significantly easier to use. now that i'm thinking about it, the most common dial stamps were simply every possible date in various formats. i think i had one that you could rearrange the date format as well. i'll have to dig through the old office supplies and see if they are still in there. also who doesn't love smashing a massive rubber "DENIED" stamp on things!

Aah, pastimes. A watchmakers lathe might be a usefull addition to your shop. Just a thought.

To be honest, a ball head or type-wheel would make for a much more complicated, but likely also better pocket-typewriter.

"Concentrated essence of stationery store". My favorite fragrance!

I wish after the strong adhesive comment there was a quick cut of the blues brothers glueing the gas pedal of the RV “this is glue. stronggg stuff”

your channel is so high quality, you deserve more subs ❤

Pocket Typewriter when Pen comes out:

Love the title! Wait, is that banana in your pocket or you are just happy to see me?

congrats! that was a nice build

That's really cool! I could see that being really practical to use as a labelmaker!

I feel like there could be a more realistic every day use version of this that might work if the letter type heads got ink in a similar way to fountain pens or something. Maybe the force of the metal arm swinging could be used to draw the ink up to the head if done hard enough. It would be tricky to make it not get leaky however. I'm envisioning a soft stamp style design instead of metal type sets, the letters being made of a somewhat porous rubber foam or felt that will take in the right amount of ink to write but not bleed. as for the previously stated "swinging", changing the length of the arms and setting them up to be flipped into position to type with a sort of "see-saw" or piano hammer motion. like it folds out in two ways to be a line or bar that can be manually slid like a ruler by the user so that the letters can be spaced properly. theoretically when fully engaged the tool will look kind of like a melodica but with round buttons instead of long tooth ones. the entire thing could potentially be made to fold down to the size of a box of cigarettes. I could be wrong but I figured that it at very least might spark some other ideas even if it isn't a good one itself.

@Gunbudder

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the practical version of this is called a dial stamp, and they have been around since the 1800's lol (i have a bunch of them). usually they are purpose built with every date or a bunch of common words (approved, denied, paid, void, etc) but i have some that are every letter and you just dial the letter you want to stamp down. this weird typewriter version is way more fun though.

These are the video's that remind me why i like KZread so much, Shame KZread doesn't feel the same way haha

We all have our rabbit holes 😉 I wish I had all your metal working tools!

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old label makers are basically pocket typewriters, the ones that look like star trek phasers with circular print heads.

I liked this very much... Gave me a lot of inspiration! Love from Sweden'!

That is really cool! I can imagine a dot matrix version!

There may be a practical application for something like this yet, like as a means to keep a set of punches or dies nicely organized.

lol what an anticlimactic ending

Pocket typewriter sounds like either innuendo or a song lyric and I can't figure out which

I'd add a line to the back of each striker bar that would coincide with the bottom of the character. So say if you were filling in a document, you could line up the line on the back of the striker with the line on the page and be sure it would place each character at the same point on the line.

Erm, you could have just made a small box containing a bunch of tiny little stamps for each character

I would absolutely buy one of these lmao

Nice stamp set!

I imagine an old timey spy using this to alter documents.

I feel like call this a typewriter doesnt fit. You arent typing since its manually done, printing for sure. I was hoping for something mechanical but small. However this is a really cute project and I appreciate thr effort that went into it

Really cool project, now it's time to get one of these and retire the beloved Selectic ball i carry around in my pocket Cheer's

You should take a look at the Bennett typewriter. It used a typing element like a Blickensderfer.

Imagine the mechanism where you can flick it and the force from the flick presses on the paper

This is awesome! you're a very capable machinest

Dang, wish I had a lathe. Could I borrow yours so i can build my own "pocketable typewriter"

Make those brass rods from drill rod and you won't have issues it's perfect for people with dysgraphia

great video.

Very cool idea!

I loved this!

This is cool but looks like a more impractical version of a label maker.

I like this project. I assume that something like this was tried back then but not with striker bars because we humans dont need bars when you don't have the chassis. I could imagine that you could make some last minute adds if somehow you missed a letter.

is that a typewriter in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

Awww... honestly I was expecting something better... this is like a downmarket Dymo labeller. You might sell this to hipsters if you put just a little steampunk on it. I don't mean gluing half a clock to the outside case, but at least include some actual mechanisms, levers and the like. A folding case that makes them go "Aaahhh!". Similarly you might be able to attract the "elderly nerd" market, who have a bit of money sloshing around and spend it on stuff like Curtas. It would benefit from an actual keyboard though, and if not a full carriage, at least be able to place it on paper, press a key, and print a character. You might not have the full finger-power of a full-size typewriter available, but you could have a little clockwork motor in there. You can buy those, even cheap from China. The thing could have a groove that aligns with the edge of a notepad or the like, or perhaps a nice brass rod with a foot on each end, that the whole thing slides along, to provide something equivalent to a carriage. Move the printer, not the paper. It would likely require a redesign, but how great would a pocket typewriter that's actually mechanical, not just a Swiss Army Knife printing set, be? It could be done, we have such clever software these days and CNC, you can produce stuff well beyond your manual skill level. You might have it type on a scroll of paper, just 2cm high or so, and wound like cine film on a sort-of carriage. Tiny little 1-character platen! These would be it's special medium! You could store scrolls in the case somewhere, it would be a new and pointless medium, but artists love all that shit.

Trade for my pocket toaster?

What about a pocket printer that uses a type ball from an electric typewriter I feel like it could be made very small and work much faster

Quiet clap from our ancestors.

Interesting concept.

Well striker bars smell like typewriter tape wich is one of the best smells in the world

One light nanosecond is one attoparsec

Cool project, but isn't it more like a stamp holder in swiss army knife style? Haha

super cool, my writing is awful i will love to have this to fill forms a such

What if you used the cover as a straight edge to line up the strikers when you pressed them to paper?

Amazing!!! Incredibly talented. And that crazy brain of yours! I love you so much!

Holy fuck he's using the mossbag font

Did you by any change also make THE HISTORY OF THE TWENTIETH CENTURY Podcast? Voice is familiar!

Good for ransom notes

Is the name of your channel an intentional joke about an attoparsec being about 3 cm, which is fairly close to one inch (2,5 cm)?

Hi 3,08cm , your channel is really cool.

It needs something to align those letters

I already have one called my cell phone

What was the issue with bending the ends to allow for both upper and lower case?

@Attoparsec

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They kept breaking in half in the process.

@TiagoTiagoT

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@@Attoparsec Soldering/welding pieces in place would not be an option?

@Attoparsec

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@@TiagoTiagoT Possibly! I probably should have tried soldering, but I figured it would all just melt and destroy the type itself.

is it just me or is the audio out of sync from the video slightly

why i was expecting folding keyboard and small electromechanical typewriter head srtiking the paper lay down on a table, nothing say typewriter has to be fylly mechanical, in fact there were many models that were more computers than typewriters and yet they only had one job like those wierd casio typewriters that could edit thext line by line before printing it

Rotating heads with 4 faces....

nobody tell him about a label maker...

amazing channel!

Or are you happy to see me?

Having seen mechanical pocket encryption-decription typewriter (Hagelin CD-57 ), impressive work but No

1:53 that's a broken "Я" replace plz

Ah, dude, your sound and video are just a bit out of sync and it's really distracting now I notice it! Now I'm gonna have to watch from the other side of the room with a pillowcase over my head.

pen

this isn't a typewriter.

@StefanReich

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Sure it is. Just a bit manual

@MegaDuck3

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100% is, it writes type.

The waffle house has a new host.

What a waste of time, there are stamps made of the whole alphabet and they are easier to arrange and type a word with better alignment!

Bro.. add a “hammer on a spring” that pops each Peter down… just one wide one that can hit any letter.

Well thats one less set of typebars someone will be able to restore something with

Found this on hackaday. I love this design and the your video style.

I loved this!