Plaque Belt Sword Suspension

Besides black magic, how do late 14th century swords hang vertically from plaque belts? Let's take a couple guesses and see what we come up with! In this video we look at some of the speculative solutions for the suspension of a sword scabbard from a knightly girdle of the late 14th century.
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  • @VacuousCat
    @VacuousCat4 жыл бұрын

    I'd say depicting the sword hanging vertically could be an artistic choice in 2D images and relief sculptures, they maybe angled irl.

  • @abhimanyuchoudhary790

    @abhimanyuchoudhary790

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I think it's just medieval drawing

  • @lucas0100araujo
    @lucas0100araujo8 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad that Matt Easton gave you a shout out. You put so much effort in your videos. Congrats!

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Lucas Carvalho Thank you!

  • @fliesatdawn

    @fliesatdawn

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Lucas Carvalho Same. He referred me here, and I have learned so much..!

  • @punchdrunkatheist

    @punchdrunkatheist

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Flies at Dawn Same. I love these vids.

  • @NicoSavio2395
    @NicoSavio23953 жыл бұрын

    I'm so sad that the Jeans, blue sweater, plaque belt and arming sword look didn't catch on since 2015

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    3 жыл бұрын

    I tried...

  • @mattbrown5511
    @mattbrown55117 жыл бұрын

    This the first time I've seen a placard belt suspension. I've always seen the sword on a separate belt. Thank you.

  • @antonberger9951
    @antonberger99518 жыл бұрын

    hi ian! at 2.05", at the right effigy (blue surcoat with golden lions) you can see a little band that goes from the plaque belt to the sword!

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Anton Berger Good eye! I missed that completely. Unfortunately I can't find a detailed enough photo to really get a good look. All the line drawings I can find of this effigy are definitely drawing a strap though, but the drawing details are wrong in a lot of places. If you happen to stumble upon a better photo of the actual effigy please share, I will do the same!

  • @antonberger9951

    @antonberger9951

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Knyght Errant hi ian! the best photos that i was able to find are at: www.flickriver.com/photos/roelipilami/tags/graf/ by the way, i forgot to say that the videos you are doing are great!

  • @TwentythreePER
    @TwentythreePER4 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this explanation of how you suspend your sword from your plaque belt. I must say that your plaque belt, sword, and scabbard are very appealing to the eye. Your Albion Poitiers is a very elegant looking sword and I would love to see more videos about it and possibly hear why you chose the Poitiers and what you think of it.

  • @krisnorge5830
    @krisnorge58308 жыл бұрын

    Ah, Lorifactor makes wonderful belts! Love your sword and that bassinet in the background. Great kit !

  • @floriankrell9438
    @floriankrell94387 ай бұрын

    Man... I miss your videos. I hope you are doing well and your youtube-abssence is for happy reasons.❤

  • @williambilson1555
    @williambilson15558 жыл бұрын

    Did anyone else notice that in the depictions of scabbards worn during combat, the scabbards were hanging at an angle?

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +William Bilson I noticed that as well. You'll also note that in the image I chose that shows that, the men-at-arms are also wearing a quilted jupon over their armor. The surviving jupon of Charles VI is in the same style and features a cut out on the hip for a sword suspension. I wonder if some people by that time were wearing a separate sword belt under the jupon and just wearing the plaque belt separately. If there's a smaller sword belt under the jupon, slung at 45* the image would make sense.

  • @williambilson1555

    @williambilson1555

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Knyght Errant That is a reasonable explanation, thank you for the info!

  • @VermylionMusic
    @VermylionMusic8 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate the music. Good to hear actual historical medieval music on a KZread video for a change.

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +VermylionMusic Thank you for noticing! :)

  • @SamuelTyree1
    @SamuelTyree18 жыл бұрын

    A another interesting and informative video! Thanks for your efforts!

  • @Shirogarasu9
    @Shirogarasu98 жыл бұрын

    I've wanted to learn more about sword suspension for a long time now, thank you for this video! Can I hope for more videos on different types of sword suspension and practicality of wearing while in combat in the future?

  • @KincadeCeltoSlav
    @KincadeCeltoSlav8 жыл бұрын

    Masterfully Done Again Good Sir!

  • @ilikewasabe
    @ilikewasabe8 жыл бұрын

    glad i subscribed to this channel. i never even noticed the belts being so ornate

  • @MrHusang23
    @MrHusang234 жыл бұрын

    Love the music at the beginning and at the end! Also: 10:00 - "I swing my sword back and forth!"

  • @darkhandomessiah
    @darkhandomessiah8 жыл бұрын

    awesome i really look forward to your videos.

  • @LiamRenault
    @LiamRenault8 жыл бұрын

    Another great video.

  • @100dfrost
    @100dfrost8 жыл бұрын

    Sir, Matt Easton referred to your site on his, and I subscribed and watched each of your armour related videos. I think your channel is great. Thank-you for sharing your knowledge and your experience. Dante.

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +100dfrost Welcome to the channel!

  • @Swidhelm
    @Swidhelm8 жыл бұрын

    I'm guessing in the images where hands were on the sword, they weren't holding them up, but stabilizing them. I would imagine it would be remarkably common for those that wore them to parade around with their hand resting on the hilt to keep them still.

  • @daddyleon
    @daddyleon6 жыл бұрын

    I've never heard of this before!! I came here via your other video...I guess I'll have to subscribe then.

  • @LasseIlsfort
    @LasseIlsfort8 жыл бұрын

    that is one beautiful looking belt and scabbard. I want now, even though I dont need one.

  • @1Phokion
    @1Phokion8 жыл бұрын

    great video Ian!

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Christian Cameron Thanks Christian!

  • @shannonwaldhauer3345
    @shannonwaldhauer33458 жыл бұрын

    just wanted to say that I am loving these videos. Most of my knowledge came from D&D, which I have found to be rather uninformed

  • @OTEP1234567891011
    @OTEP12345678910117 жыл бұрын

    How did I miss this video?!?!?

  • @kiba3x
    @kiba3x8 жыл бұрын

    Keep them coming, very informative videos. Isn`t the angled scabbard much more practical? Why would that had vertical scabbard?

  • @paulandsueroberts4121
    @paulandsueroberts41218 жыл бұрын

    Happy new year Sir Knyght.....

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Paul and Sue Roberts Thank you. Happy New Year!

  • @michaeldomingue4530
    @michaeldomingue45304 жыл бұрын

    I am given to understand two methods were used in combat. an O ring attatched via a strap like the dagger. Also just a strap wrapped around the sword and looped around the belt. Both removed the scabord wich could get into the way. Whilst allowing quick acces to the sword. As to why the belt was worn so low on the hips was it was easier to draw the sword.

  • @iterenzi
    @iterenzi8 жыл бұрын

    Nice Razer PC Ian XD Great video as well, nice job

  • @lukerope1906
    @lukerope19065 жыл бұрын

    !2th century scabbards are infuriating. Contrary to popular belief, the interlaced scabbard isn't something that's seen until the 13th century. The scabbard from the Sword of St Maurice of Turin is probably one of the earliest examples. Like the late 14th century, the swords seem to be magically stuck the belt. Most times vertically, other times, angled. To add to this, there are some manuscripts that show the sword and scabbard could be removed from the belt. Many have assumed that straps that are seen on the face of the scabbards have to do with the suspension. But some scabbards don't have them. And to make things worse, the one image of the back side of the scabbard(from the 13th century) shows that the belt simply passes through slits cut in leather of scabbard, essentially making a belt loop. The straps on the front don't seem to do anything.

  • @jaysbob
    @jaysbob8 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video, it gives a lot to think about. I love that you take the time to find contemporary depictions and accounts. Unknown technical details like this are always interesting to try to puzzle out and you do a good job making a case for your claims. Is it possible that the sword wasn't generally suspended from the belt at all and was just carried? Seems more practical if you've got a retinue of servants and squires. Perhaps the effigies are depicting the sword being lain next to the reclining figure? Why should a lord have to deal with the inconvenience of having a sword strapped to his waist all the time. Sword bearers are certainly a thing in other formal contexts. Or what about a simple hook or bent nail like you see on later scabbards? This would allow the scabbard to be quickly removed and handed off to a retainer or tossed aside so it wouldn't get in the way. It seems like if it's something that could potentially trip you up you wouldn't want it tied to your waist in a fight. Although you certainly see it physically tied to the waist in later time periods so I dunno. Could all three solutions have been possible concurrently?

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +jaysbob This is by no means the 'only' way to carry a sword. This is just one possible solution to the problem of reconciling the vertical sword suspension from a plaque belt. One thing I didn't mention in the video, but there are a couple surviving plaques that have little hooks on them on which the 'staple' on the back of the throat locket can just be hooked over. This would give the same visual but it would not be very secure. It lends credence to the idea that the scabbard was typically not worn in combat with that sort of configuration.

  • @EidolonSpecus
    @EidolonSpecus4 жыл бұрын

    My headcanon is that one (or two) big metal clip held it in place on the belt, not unlike the pocket clip of a modern pocket knife. That way it's actually more stable than just a strap, since the pressure of the clip keeps it steady on the belt; and you can easily remove the scabbard from the plaque belt when needed without unbuckling anything.

  • @kamhyde40
    @kamhyde407 жыл бұрын

    Just how much does your plaque belt weigh? Thanks for the inclusion of the medieval music. Nice touch!

  • @bryandouglas7076
    @bryandouglas70767 жыл бұрын

    Wonder if a none ridged scabbard was more common with those that wore it into battle/ I wonder how it would wear from horseback.

  • @Ulfrik12
    @Ulfrik127 жыл бұрын

    Hey does anyone here have a suggestion of what to look for in terms of a historically accurate sword belt for the late 15th century? I'm trying to put together an impression of a Swiss mercenary and I've had a hard time looking for examples to base off of, let alone places to buy something like that.

  • @randomanonymousperson7582
    @randomanonymousperson75827 жыл бұрын

    +Knyght Errant, can you show us how you sharpen you sword?

  • @russelltimmerman3771
    @russelltimmerman37718 жыл бұрын

    This looks like an expensive hobby. Maybe you could mention in a video a rough cost breakdown of your harness and weapons..

  • @lysanthirvt4011

    @lysanthirvt4011

    7 жыл бұрын

    For a proper fitted harness and weapons like his? Probably a good few thousand

  • @spacemanapeinc7202

    @spacemanapeinc7202

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lysanthirvt4011 On Average the cost for plate armour is 28k to 50k depending on the era. That doesn't include the mail and other clothing like the arming shirt and jupon.

  • @bmxriderforlife1234

    @bmxriderforlife1234

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@spacemanapeinc7202 no clue where you got that number got i can get 15th or 16th century gothic. or a 16th century greenwich style harness for a hell of alot less then 28k. for 50k i could get a really fancy ass one. figure 6-12k for something basic. 12k plus for something fancier and then anywhere up from there depending how fancy.

  • @spacemanapeinc7202

    @spacemanapeinc7202

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@bmxriderforlife1234 Have you ever seen how much Jeff Wasson commissions for a full suit of 15th centruy plate armour? 30k, the full suits that cost around 6k to 12k are probably cheaply made.

  • @bmxriderforlife1234

    @bmxriderforlife1234

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@spacemanapeinc7202 im also assuming he lives in europe(actually if memory serves he does) where alot of shit costs more. with higher taxes and costs of living. patrick barta of templ.net his shit is museum grade and yet some of his stuff is cheaper then albions, yet made with pattern welded blades and comes with a scabbard and is more historically accurate. different smiths have different costs. also some smiths get more famous and can then afford to charge more. there are also loads who specifically try to keep costs down without sacrificing quality. lol actually this is what i plan to do if i ever get the cash together to get things rolling. making affordable highly accurate replicas of museum pieces or famous blades from private collections that i can get my hands on for measurements. you also have smiths who use all traditional tools and methods. or their own created methods with the tools they have or can make. others use modern tools to speed up the process and increase quality. some use a combination of both.

  • @GladstnJones
    @GladstnJones7 жыл бұрын

    I like Arsgerdyll, that made me laugh XD

  • @paistinlasta1805
    @paistinlasta18052 жыл бұрын

    I don't really know how scabbards were illustrated in medieval art, but I think it could make sense to suspend some swords vertically. It takes a lot of extra straps to suspend a sword at an angle, and it could be that they only started doing it after swords got long enough that they would be scraping the ground if hung vertically. It's the most natural way to hang the sword, straight down. Maybe they didn't suspend the swords at an angle because that's how it's supposed to be hung, but because that's how it had to be hung. After all, the Japanese wore their katanas almost diagonaly. I don't know the ergonomics of drawing a sword at different angles, but I don't think it would make a world of difference. But then again this could be totally debunked by some illustrations, but it's just a thought.

  • @jackryan148
    @jackryan1487 жыл бұрын

    Could the scabbard hook over the hinge pin

  • @kentallard8852
    @kentallard88523 жыл бұрын

    looking at the pictures of them with the belt and no scabbard you have to wonder if maybe they did not carry the sword at all, afterall by that point the sword was a sidearm with a polearm becoming the main weapon

  • @Tyrhor
    @Tyrhor8 жыл бұрын

    For some reason I cannot share an image or link. However I would like to suggest taking look at the belt of Fernando de la Cedra. Even though it is nearly 100 years before the period, the decorated thingy there could be a solution to this question.

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Vojtěch Nosek Yes, the de la Cerda belt is pretty impressive. There are some 14th century plaques that seem to have a hook on them that would complement at staple on the sword scabbard, but for the de le Cerda configuration to work the hook / hanger would have to be reversed, which is also possibility.

  • @SanityVideo
    @SanityVideo6 жыл бұрын

    If they removed the scabbard a lot it's possible they had a cord or string that could be easily untied by pulling one end of the string. I have no reason to assume this is true but it might explain how the swords look like they're levitating on the belt.

  • @imstupid880
    @imstupid8807 жыл бұрын

    I also think that this suspension would be used in combat, since A. Cosmetically, the plaque belt would grind against the throat locket B. It's hard to draw a sword from a 90 degree scabbard C. With a longsword, the length of the scabbard would be longer than the stance from the belt to the ground.

  • @Meffli
    @Meffli8 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ian, can you tell me how the individual plaques are manufactured? Are they cast or stamped or brazed? In what way they are attached to the belt?

  • @urmum1959
    @urmum19595 жыл бұрын

    2:56 weird flex but okay but seriously, nice Albion

  • @Threetails
    @Threetails Жыл бұрын

    Do you know any good resources on late medieval baldrics? It seems like most of the visual sources I have seen show it in the 12th-13th c. and then they seem to vanish until about the 16th-17th c.

  • @brotherandythesage
    @brotherandythesage8 жыл бұрын

    If it's just "hovering" there maybe they used some form of electromagnetism? The History Channel seems to favor alien technology for everything so maybe they're onto something? But seriously you video gives some serious theories of how it must've been done! I also love how you tell us the names of everyone who crafts the gear you show us!

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +brotherandythesage Thanks! You never know, could have been aliens!

  • @AlanH450
    @AlanH4508 жыл бұрын

    I'm thinking that they would have removed the scabbard pre-battle as they wouldn't want it damaged during fighting, and its pretty unnecessary at that stage. plus somebody could grab it during combat and use it to hinder you, or it get caught in something and trap you. just guessing really as I've no experience in the matter.

  • @iordannikolov2887
    @iordannikolov28878 жыл бұрын

    I have one question Knyght. When the plaque belts appear ? I meen the erliest posible dates and decades when it became popular.

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Iordan Nikolov It's kind of hard to say. Earlier sword belts were still highly decorate and had a lot of mounts on them in the first half of the 14th century. It was more of an evolution into the plaque belt than it was a distinct style change.

  • @evavaldos
    @evavaldos8 жыл бұрын

    Nice, informative video, thank you. But are you shure, the hinge system was vertical? All the pictures you show, where an gravestones, maybe the swords where depicted just laying along the side of knight and not hinged at all? All pictures of batle scenes shows non vertical suspension.

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Evaldas Olberkis Definitely possible. With the sword in the scabbard, and a 45* staple, the weight of the sword would still end up twisting or pivoting to sit relatively vertical. With the sword out of the scabbard and a 45* staple, it might sit at an angle because of the lack of weight. As far as battle scenes go, showing scabbards at all in conjunction with plaque belts is pretty rare when compared to showing plaque belts and the scabbard completely removed (which a lot of people think is the more likely scenario). I think there was probably a lot of variation in how it was done in reality.

  • @Finkeren
    @Finkeren8 жыл бұрын

    A bit of speculation on my part: Is it posible, that the reason the scabbards aren't shown in the illuminated fighting scenes is, that the scabbards weren't actually secured to the plaque belt at all, but that the sword was carried by hand and the scabbard thrown to the side in a fighting situation to prevent it getting in the way? Or maybe it's posible, that the scabbard was fastened to the plaque belt by way of a small hook going through a loop on the belt, such that the scabbard could easily be lifted off and thrown away?

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Finkeren There are some surviving hooks like you mention. They would work very well with the staple setup. I can't imagine they would be very stable for wear, but if the intent is to quickly discard the scabbard, or only wear it for the purposes of being all 'dressed up' then it would work wonderfully. I tend to think scabbards were not something you would typically want dangling from anything if you needed to fight unless you couldn't help it.

  • @HaNsWiDjAjA

    @HaNsWiDjAjA

    8 жыл бұрын

    Wasnt the sword typically not the primary weapon for a medieval man-at-arms? Wouldnt he need to keep it in his scabbard until he ditched his primary weapon?

  • @christkandosii3337
    @christkandosii33374 жыл бұрын

    I mix a Milanese breastplate with English arms and Gothic legs. I use a sugarloaf helm from a different time period and I paint it with a Mexican flag motif.

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    4 жыл бұрын

    You must work for the video game or movie industry! ;)

  • @williamcryts5337
    @williamcryts53375 жыл бұрын

    This is an interesting image at 11:28 is there some sort of context? because if it is some sort of cutting demonstration I would love to hear more about that. I havent seen very much information about what they cut. If they made little statues to cut that sounds very interesting, I would like to know what the material is as well.

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    5 жыл бұрын

    No, that image is from the Weltchronik - Cod.bibl.fol.5 f.150v, ca.1383. It's a biblical image from the book of Samuel depicting David destroying the idols of the Philisitines

  • @williamcryts5337

    @williamcryts5337

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the clarification.

  • @theCreativeAssemblymachinimas
    @theCreativeAssemblymachinimas8 жыл бұрын

    if you remove the scabbard you need to keep sword by hand all time thus not being allowed to keep other weapons like polearms which were quite more useful than sword against armored opponents. So i doubt they removed the scabbard, or if they did, they did not take the swords too.

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +the Creative Assembly machinimas On foot, yes. On horseback, you would definitely have some more options. But when on foot, assuming you don't want the scabbard hanging at your side in that fashion, you would need to retire from the line to go fetch your sword, or one of your valets would have to be carrying a sword for you.

  • @theCreativeAssemblymachinimas

    @theCreativeAssemblymachinimas

    8 жыл бұрын

    Knyght Errant reading accounts of battles like Angicourt with solid and crowded formations of knights on foot/men at arms, I doubt each one had his vallets with him in formation or following. The scabbard swinging on your side is not ideally confortable but I do not think that is your main concern when you face death. I think typical equipment for knights of 15th century was polearm and sword as second weapon. Sword is not good against armored opponents (usually noblemen looked for other noblemen -in armor- to fight on same level) and you cannot use the sword fighting techniques against armored opponents in the crowd of a formation. Sword was more a status symbol than a good weapon.

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +the Creative Assembly machinimas Highly adorned swords with fancy fittings and gilded hilt-parts were status symbols. Swords in general were not status symbols in the late Medieval, especially post-Black Death.

  • @docstockandbarrel
    @docstockandbarrel Жыл бұрын

    👍🏻

  • @brized
    @brized8 жыл бұрын

    Method 2 makes me think of an inverse MOLLE system.

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +brized Ha, I never thought of it that way, but you're right, it is very similar.

  • @TroubledViking
    @TroubledViking8 жыл бұрын

    How do you make sure the staple and/or buckle don't rub or scratch your plaque belt?

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +TroubledViking The leather strap itself acts as a buffer between the metal on each component.

  • @TroubledViking

    @TroubledViking

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Knyght Errant OK thanks for the reply. These videos are really helpful!

  • @petrvcelak2634
    @petrvcelak26345 жыл бұрын

    Does your plaque belt has that additional removeable piece? At first I thought it hasn't because there is just one "opening" but the I realized that you could just simply remove that additional part for the video. Thanks

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    5 жыл бұрын

    I do have an additional piece for it. In armor I need it, out of armor I take it off.

  • @albinotatertot
    @albinotatertot7 жыл бұрын

    Question: Are "belts of the circle" or sword belts that suspend the sword via a metal ring on the hip historically accurate?

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    7 жыл бұрын

    If you mean the type where you simply put a sword through a metal ring, then no, I don't believe they are historical.

  • @albinotatertot

    @albinotatertot

    7 жыл бұрын

    Knyght Errant​, I'm speaking of the type where the belt is riveted around opposing "sides" of the ring (placed against the hip) with two leather straps/extensions connected to the circle as attachments for the scabbard.

  • @albinotatertot

    @albinotatertot

    7 жыл бұрын

    Knyght Errant It looks like this: www.theinnerbailey.com/sword-belt-ofthecircle2.htm

  • @samueleandriolo4517
    @samueleandriolo45177 жыл бұрын

    Ian but if the sword wasn' t your first wepon, you would need the scabbard, right?

  • @hotcelery4597
    @hotcelery45973 жыл бұрын

    Homie got some hair

  • @caman5
    @caman58 жыл бұрын

    You neglected to mention how the English suspended their scabbards after the transition away from the plaque belt. Am I to understand that the belt, at that point, was worn as an adornment with the addition of a leather frog? I just want clarification.

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    The thinner sword belt can pass directly through the staple on the scabbard throat locket (if present), or attach to the locket by means of other metal-work, like small rings attached to the sides of the throat locket. This assembly was generally depicted as worn over the plaque belt if a plaque belt is present. Here's an example of the second method I just described. There are little rings connecting the thin sword belt to the sides of the throat locket on the sword scabbard: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/St_Mary,_North_Leigh,_Oxon_-_Graffiti_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1624449.jpg

  • @caman5

    @caman5

    8 жыл бұрын

    Thanks.

  • @wanadeena
    @wanadeena8 жыл бұрын

    Did baldrics shoulder belts fall out of style post-Vikinga age? If so, why is that?

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +wanadeena They became much less commonly depicted but they are still present in art throughout the high and late Middle Ages. Why? I'm not sure, perhaps with the advance of armor they found belt-mounted scabbards to be of more practical use? I don't really know, it's not something I've researched or thought about too much. But, here's a wealthy man-at-arms using a well adorned baldric style suspension for his sword as late as the early 15th century (manuscriptminiatures.com/3993/9961/). I'm sure there are later ones if I really dug for them too.

  • @DragosdeGothia
    @DragosdeGothia8 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ian, I was wondering if there is any reason in particular why plaque belts tend to be be worn so low on the body? Practicality or was it just some kind of trend?

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    No one really knows, but it seems to have been more of a fashion thing than anything else. There's almost no information about plaque belts out there, and very few mentions of them in contemporary sources.

  • @MalletMann

    @MalletMann

    7 жыл бұрын

    "Sword on the ground, sword on the ground..."

  • @michaelfranco5191
    @michaelfranco51917 жыл бұрын

    what sword is this?what type of oakeshott Sword is it? and what era is your armor?

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    7 жыл бұрын

    albion poitiers, oakeshott type xv, turn of the 14th/15th century English.

  • @sirnobilant8077
    @sirnobilant80773 жыл бұрын

    Where can I get tailored, historically accurate and functional armor, with real steel? Particularly mail?

  • @petergregory1307
    @petergregory13078 жыл бұрын

    How much does the belt weigh?

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    2 lbs 10 oz, or about 1.2 kg

  • @beegum1
    @beegum18 жыл бұрын

    The swordsmen at the Vatican hold the scabbard in their hand which seems reasonable if you are unlikely to see combat but when response time would be at a premium, then you wouldn't need it affixed in any way, this is for guards. And then when you know you are going to enter combat, why have a scabbard at all as it weighs something and could get in the way?

  • @beegum1

    @beegum1

    8 жыл бұрын

    The sword isn't really a primary weapon though, so it seems the scabbard might be on the horse, I'm a bit confused on this point of not having a scabbard on the battlefield as it seems like it's a personal weapon, you probably have a bec de corbin or something that's your actual battlefield weapon... oh, of course, and a dagger, rondel or something like that.

  • @johnharvey5412

    @johnharvey5412

    8 жыл бұрын

    +David Lowery I wonder if maybe we don't see the scabbard very often in artwork of the time is that it's just one of those details that artists don't think about. Like, if you tell ten random people to draw a bicycle from memory, how many of them are going to remember to draw the chain?

  • @MegaSweeney123
    @MegaSweeney1238 жыл бұрын

    Why is the plaque belt worn so low? I can only imagine that'd cause flexibility issues :s

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +SerAlgernop BlitzKrieger It's usually worn in line with the hip joints. As long as it doesn't go any lower it shouldn't restrict movement. The mystery is more of how they made sure the plaque belt didn't fall off! :)

  • @MegaSweeney123

    @MegaSweeney123

    8 жыл бұрын

    Knyght Errant I dunno, I mean it must have worked to an extent, because it was around a fair few years... Just my experience in wearing jeans cut to sit in that same spot/have the belt there is telling me otherwise :P

  • @MegaSweeney123

    @MegaSweeney123

    8 жыл бұрын

    Magnets. That's how haha

  • @freedomordeath89
    @freedomordeath898 жыл бұрын

    How did they transported 2 handed swords?

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Johnny Hand-and-a-half swords and arming swords were far more common in the age of the plaque belt, and both will hang just fine vertically. Particularly large swords (which would really become more common far later in history) would have to be carried by other means.

  • @freedomordeath89

    @freedomordeath89

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I was talking about claymores or zweihanders, do they just wrap them in cloths and transport them like spears or others two handed weapons? While carrying them on their shoulders during combat movements?

  • @Finkeren

    @Finkeren

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Johnny You have to keep in mind, that proper two-handed swords (late medieval and renaissance Claymores and Bidenhänders) were battlefield weapons, completely unlike arming swords and longswords, which were sidearms. As such, they weren't "worn" the way other swords are, suspended on your person, but rather were carried in hand or slung over the sholder like a polearm. On campaign they would sometimes be stowed away in the baggage train, but usually it would simply be carried by the owner, as can be seen on numerous depictions of Lendsknechts. There is some evidence, that at least some of these weapons had sheaths that covered the sharp part of the blade and protected it from damage and rust, as well as from doing damage. However, this was a sheath, not a scabbard, and was no used as a means of securing the sword to anything.In short: Two-handed swords were essentially polearms used only in war and (rarely) in duels, and they were treated as such.

  • @freedomordeath89

    @freedomordeath89

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I know its not a sidearm, I was courious about how did they transport them beeing not so cheap and somewhat fancy :-)

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    I would agree that they were probably on the wagons or just slung over the shoulder on march. They could even be strapped to horse, but most are too large to be 'worn' comfortably.

  • @michaelfranco5191
    @michaelfranco51917 жыл бұрын

    sword?

  • @paavoaro003

    @paavoaro003

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sword.

  • @rileyworks3793
    @rileyworks37938 жыл бұрын

    You look and sound a HELL OF A LOT like the dude from Forgotten Weapons, and you both have the SAME FIRST NAME (WHAAAT). You also both brief KZread's users on old weaponry & armor(whaaaaaat!). Go check out his channel (forgotten weapons) and tell me what you think! (you also both have a dry sense of humor and are both veterans [I believe ]).

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +RileyWorks Maybe we're long lost brothers! :)

  • @ryanrandall5446
    @ryanrandall54464 жыл бұрын

    It hangs like a dirk.

  • @Mythicalmage
    @Mythicalmage8 жыл бұрын

    I'm assuming that having the sword vertical was more style than function?

  • @Mythicalmage

    @Mythicalmage

    8 жыл бұрын

    ***** I would assume it would be more difficult to draw, and as he said in the video it was phased out for a more diagonal mounting. Though the way he showed it seemed rather practical in it's ability to maneuver easily, so it's probably more reasonable than I would at first assume.

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Rob Wilson When I took the photo of my Albion Crecy suspension (2:50) I then tried to walk back downstairs to take it off and not thinking about it, it started to bounce off the steps behind me. When I do the same thing with my Poitiers on the plaque belt I can actually walk up and down the stairs without trying to kill myself. :) Granted, the Poitiers is a shorter arming sword, so I'm not sure how the Crecy or my A&A Black Prince would do going up and down stairs in a vertical position. As far as drawing it goes, it's easy enough to cant the sword forward with my left hand to draw it. Maybe it's because I'm used to it, but I find I get caught on less things with a vertical suspension than an angled suspension.

  • @Mythicalmage

    @Mythicalmage

    8 жыл бұрын

    Knyght Errant Ah, ok thanks for the reply!

  • @lukerope1906

    @lukerope1906

    5 жыл бұрын

    This has to do with earlier centuries when shields were more prominent and larger. But if you were in a formation of men, an angled sword would be difficult to draw, because of the shield in front of you, and the scabbard would stab your neighbor. This is why the Romans carried their swords more or less vertically and on the right side.

  • @jonmakar5646
    @jonmakar56468 жыл бұрын

    Preyse God......Umbasa

  • @barghestblue731
    @barghestblue7317 жыл бұрын

    The answer is magnets :p

  • @chadianguardsman3358
    @chadianguardsman33587 жыл бұрын

    a pin

  • @ktoth29
    @ktoth298 жыл бұрын

    Just pricing out the individual elements of the belt, sword and scabbard... its clear that you have a super expensive hobby.

  • @michaelfranco5191
    @michaelfranco51917 жыл бұрын

    albion sword?

  • @KnyghtErrant

    @KnyghtErrant

    7 жыл бұрын

    albion poitiers

  • @genericfakename8197
    @genericfakename81978 жыл бұрын

    So because you have the right to bear arms, you could just wear that sword every day right? Sweet, I want to live in america

  • @bmxriderforlife1234

    @bmxriderforlife1234

    7 жыл бұрын

    unfortunately no, many places in north america even when they have no set rules against it like canada, have by laws that whilst cant get you arrested can get you fined every time you get caught plus having the weapon taken each and every time with probably paperwork or court cases to get it back. also many states let you own firtearms but not carry them

  • @genericfakename8197

    @genericfakename8197

    7 жыл бұрын

    bmxriderforlife1234 I'll have to wear my sword in an open carry state then.

  • @bmxriderforlife1234

    @bmxriderforlife1234

    7 жыл бұрын

    GenericFakeName can still get you in trouble, and some states do have laws against the carrying of swords, however canada doesnt so check local laws. also a man here in canada got caught carrying a sword and it took over a year of court cases and legal issues before charges were dropped and then they turned around and fined him.

  • @jobdylan5782

    @jobdylan5782

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bmxriderforlife1234 he was clearly talking about the us and not canada

  • @bmxriderforlife1234

    @bmxriderforlife1234

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jobdylan5782 yeah. Notice my other comment. Lmfao. Canada had laws that are more free on swords than most states. In Texas you could go to jail until recently for carrying a sword. AND ITS FUCKING TEXAS. So yeah. Maybe just stop being silly for a minute.

  • @gabrielolmedo6155
    @gabrielolmedo61556 жыл бұрын

    this belt is the strongest proof that no knight nor man at arms was fat ass.

  • @Lo-tf6qt
    @Lo-tf6qt6 жыл бұрын

    How to suspend your sword from the plaque belt? Just wear it on your back like an idiot!

  • @bigmofo1122
    @bigmofo11226 жыл бұрын

    Woah. This is boring.