Planing a Weiler LZ280 lathe bed

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Restoring main geometry of a worn Weiler LZ 280 lathe. Planing the bed and reworking tail stock bottom part and the sadle bottom.

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  • @guzzijohn66
    @guzzijohn66Ай бұрын

    The only thing better than watching a shaper make chips is watching a planer making chips.

  • @mackellyman5642
    @mackellyman5642Ай бұрын

    Remember to water the tree on the shop floor. Excellent content.

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks, and yah that orange tree have a hard life during winter here. It's a bit more happy now 🙂

  • @jansverrehaugjord9934
    @jansverrehaugjord9934Ай бұрын

    Well explained and done, Henrik! Extremely nice actually :) This must be the answer to "home shop/hobbyist" demand for renovating older machines to get these accurate again

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks Jan, ah although it brings something essentially out of order to working condition its not to compare with a proffesionell rebuild. The best thing is that from here most every one mechanically inclined can do the rest.

  • @blakehorton8110

    @blakehorton8110

    29 күн бұрын

    ​@@henrikandren6967 would scrapping be the next step ???

  • @123bugness
    @123bugnessАй бұрын

    So relaxing. I could watch for hours!

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Please do 😀

  • @iandibley8032
    @iandibley8032Ай бұрын

    Very interesting video, a beautiful job, this will give the lathe many years of accurate work. That bed had a significant amount of wear .This lathe looked in a general tidy condition as a machinist. I am fanatical cleaning the bed if anything abrasive has been used and regular lubing. Long-term accuracy depends on the bed and slide condition.

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for your kind words and you're spot on regarding cleaning and lubrication. I sent along some extra oilers to be installed.

  • @sulebifas9248

    @sulebifas9248

    7 күн бұрын

    Bagai mana cara memesan nya dan tau harganya

  • @asmithh2697
    @asmithh2697Ай бұрын

    What is crazy I understand what you did even though I have never done it! Great job! Thank you

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks! 🙂

  • @kooldoozer
    @kooldoozerАй бұрын

    I have a Rockford hydraulic planer. Love to watch your videos. ---Doozer

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks, there's a few more in the pipeline 🙂

  • @JoseAguilar-oq2mi
    @JoseAguilar-oq2miАй бұрын

    I love the song at second 32, true colors by CYNDI LAUPER.

  • @jacqueso8424
    @jacqueso8424Ай бұрын

    Very interesting machine, planer for metal surfaces. Cutting tools like lathe, works similar principal of shaper machine. 1st time i see this type of machine. Hope we get to see next part where remainder of work described end this video is shown. Otherwise, keep up the good work

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks, there's more coming 🙂

  • @ionolaru7441
    @ionolaru744127 күн бұрын

    o adevarata lectie !

  • @tonisiqueira9543
    @tonisiqueira9543Ай бұрын

    Simplesmente um plainamento de mestre parabéns pelo trabalho show 🇧🇷🙏

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you sir!

  • @simon3065
    @simon3065Ай бұрын

    Very well done 👌

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you 😊

  • @eXactModellbau
    @eXactModellbauАй бұрын

    Die Eier muss man erstmal haben, sein Drehbankbett auf den Hobel zu legen. Die Vorher-Messung funktioniert natürlich nur, wenn man der Geometrie des Hobels 100%ig vertrauen kann. Ist das gegeben?

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    This is google translate both ways so bare with me... Ja und nein... Die Vorher-Messung wie am 2:21min sind nur indikativ, ganz richtigt. Es sind eine aggregat von Planer längsbevegung und drehbenk aber es ist gut. Wie bei allen alten Maschinen müssen Sie wissen, wie sie funktionieren. Zum einen habe ich Arbeitsproben gemacht, um zu evaluieren, wie es läuft. Zum einen gibt es einen Zwischenschritt, den ich glaube ich in einem anderen Film gezeigt zu haben, wo ich vor dem letzten Feinschnitt eine Kontrollmessung mit einem Scheuerlineal durchführe. Hat auch ein Video des Testschnitts in voller Länge. Die Eier sind im Nest ;-) Sehr gute und intressant Arbeit in Ihren Videos!

  • @eXactModellbau

    @eXactModellbau

    Ай бұрын

    @@henrikandren6967 Vielen Dank für die Antwort. 👍 Was ist denn Ihre Muttersprache?

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Meine muttersprach sind Schwedisch, oder Svenska som vi säger här 🙂

  • @FrustratedBaboon
    @FrustratedBaboonАй бұрын

    That is some high-precision accuracy. I bought a Grizzly lathe and it is a hunk of junk. I am so sad that I don't know how to fix it.

  • @OlaSkytteren
    @OlaSkytterenАй бұрын

    Wow this is awesome 😍

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks! 😊

  • @henrikandren6967
    @henrikandren6967Ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @devmeistersuperprecision4155
    @devmeistersuperprecision415516 күн бұрын

    Awsome Planer. What planer do you have?

  • @ralfralf7443
    @ralfralf7443Ай бұрын

    Hervorragende Arbeit 👍👍

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @fernanfelipejuradoespinosa131
    @fernanfelipejuradoespinosa131Ай бұрын

    Por falta de aceite 10w40 es que se desgaste de hierro colado

  • @quanghuynguyen6950
    @quanghuynguyen6950Ай бұрын

    Hà nội việt nam thanhs you

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @IchigoKurusaki1985
    @IchigoKurusaki1985Ай бұрын

    Question, how much wear do you get on tooling like that? How often is it checked? Just curious on the procedure on that with such exacting dimensions.

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    In terms of carbide tool wear, it is insignificant. Imagine and compare to similar tool in a lathe. Say a cutting speed at least 10X and a dia 200 shaft 1m long gives a cutting length of 120m. Just for reference. Back to the question. The edge is diamond lapped sharp and keen, that's what I check. Sharpness and no damages by means of nail shaving and feeling plus visual loupe inspection.

  • @BigBoss-rh7zq
    @BigBoss-rh7zqАй бұрын

    No hardened ways ? Hope your planer is well aligned too.

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    It's has no hard ways, just had a hard life ;-) In fact it is very easy cutting material. And yes, the planer is set-up and tested.

  • @tuju-

    @tuju-

    Ай бұрын

    @@henrikandren6967and if they were hardened, would you still have been able to cut it?

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    No, not like this. I do have a small grinding head adapted to fit but I'm still to put it to use as I'm concerned about grinding stuff and it's definitely not set up for flood cooling.

  • @tuju-

    @tuju-

    Ай бұрын

    @@henrikandren6967 i wonder how it works, if the stone wears to smaller diameter, is it compensated somehow to make the result flat?

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    I'm no grinderhand but I'd think it wear in the similar amounts as other cutters and I think one dress the wheels for sharpness before they go that much out of size. Maybe some expert on grinding can give you a better answer. For me I'd be more concerned with heat build up.

  • @hamcheeseenterprises6975
    @hamcheeseenterprises6975Ай бұрын

    would it be ground after the planing? or is planing enough to get it into spec

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Depends on the spec i guess... If it was to be ground I think it wouldn´t make sense to plane it first. If one wants to it is very possible to scrape finish it after planing it, relatively little work compared to before planing. Now you´d only need to modify the surface and make sure to not alter any flatness or alignment. Otoh, having planed it for smoothnes and the material cut butter smooth, the result after deburring with a ground precision stone really makes you think trice before starting doing anything else to it... I have though planed other cast irons where I would not feel satisfied with the planed finish for a sliding surface. So it might depend on the case at hand as well.

  • @devmeistersuperprecision4155

    @devmeistersuperprecision4155

    16 күн бұрын

    Depends. Some lathes have hardened beds and these are best ground. Often, the last bit is accuracy is obtained from hand scraping of the planed surface

  • @tropifiori
    @tropifioriАй бұрын

    The tailstock of my lathe ( flat ways) is less worn than the headstock end. Can I just switch ends the headstock is on to make the lathe better? I rarely turn really long things.

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    There is nothing really wrong with your thinking in terms using the un worn end of the lathe, I have however a hard time picturing a configuration facilitating it somewhat easy. Some lathes had loose V-prisms that could be turned around, right or wrong.

  • @tuju-
    @tuju-Ай бұрын

    Wonder how the world’s first shaper was done.

  • @DerrangedGadgeteer

    @DerrangedGadgeteer

    Ай бұрын

    Very carefully

  • @sheriffroylambifs894
    @sheriffroylambifs894Ай бұрын

    99 + % = PERFECT !!!

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for your kind words 😊

  • @toplist2613
    @toplist2613Ай бұрын

    Does any one know of a reference for doing this kind of operation without the use of machinery?

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    Edward Connelly, Machine Tool recondition.

  • @tuju-
    @tuju-Ай бұрын

    Hope the shaper bed is well lubricated or it will need machining too :)

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    It is indeed, it has an automatic oiling system feeding each side of the V-prisms individually with a heavy flow rate. I run it for quite some time to make sure the oil feed and film is steady before measuring or making chips

  • @tuju-

    @tuju-

    Ай бұрын

    @@henrikandren6967 compared to lathe, its ways are used a lot more.

  • @abramfriesen9834
    @abramfriesen9834Ай бұрын

    I have a lathe that's to be done

  • @jimsvideos7201
    @jimsvideos7201Ай бұрын

    CNC planer?

  • @jml3327

    @jml3327

    Ай бұрын

    You offering?

  • @henrikandren6967

    @henrikandren6967

    Ай бұрын

    No, just a normal old planer. Only replaced the belt drive with electric motor and VFD.

  • @melitonalvarezbaez2158
    @melitonalvarezbaez2158Ай бұрын

    El cepillo tendría q estar 0 para dejar la bancada también 0

  • @robertpearson8546
    @robertpearson8546Ай бұрын

    So different from the way the Indians/Pakistanis cast a lathe bed out of crap and plane the result to resemble a lathe bed.

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