Restoring main geometry of a worn Weiler LZ 280 lathe. Planing the bed and reworking tail stock bottom part and the sadle bottom.
Жүктеу.....
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@guzzijohn66Ай бұрын
The only thing better than watching a shaper make chips is watching a planer making chips.
@mackellyman5642Ай бұрын
Remember to water the tree on the shop floor. Excellent content.
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks, and yah that orange tree have a hard life during winter here. It's a bit more happy now 🙂
@jansverrehaugjord9934Ай бұрын
Well explained and done, Henrik! Extremely nice actually :) This must be the answer to "home shop/hobbyist" demand for renovating older machines to get these accurate again
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks Jan, ah although it brings something essentially out of order to working condition its not to compare with a proffesionell rebuild. The best thing is that from here most every one mechanically inclined can do the rest.
@blakehorton8110
29 күн бұрын
@@henrikandren6967 would scrapping be the next step ???
@123bugnessАй бұрын
So relaxing. I could watch for hours!
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Please do 😀
@iandibley8032Ай бұрын
Very interesting video, a beautiful job, this will give the lathe many years of accurate work. That bed had a significant amount of wear .This lathe looked in a general tidy condition as a machinist. I am fanatical cleaning the bed if anything abrasive has been used and regular lubing. Long-term accuracy depends on the bed and slide condition.
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words and you're spot on regarding cleaning and lubrication. I sent along some extra oilers to be installed.
@sulebifas9248
7 күн бұрын
Bagai mana cara memesan nya dan tau harganya
@asmithh2697Ай бұрын
What is crazy I understand what you did even though I have never done it! Great job! Thank you
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks! 🙂
@kooldoozerАй бұрын
I have a Rockford hydraulic planer. Love to watch your videos. ---Doozer
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks, there's a few more in the pipeline 🙂
@JoseAguilar-oq2miАй бұрын
I love the song at second 32, true colors by CYNDI LAUPER.
@jacqueso8424Ай бұрын
Very interesting machine, planer for metal surfaces. Cutting tools like lathe, works similar principal of shaper machine. 1st time i see this type of machine. Hope we get to see next part where remainder of work described end this video is shown. Otherwise, keep up the good work
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks, there's more coming 🙂
@ionolaru744127 күн бұрын
o adevarata lectie !
@tonisiqueira9543Ай бұрын
Simplesmente um plainamento de mestre parabéns pelo trabalho show 🇧🇷🙏
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thank you sir!
@simon3065Ай бұрын
Very well done 👌
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thank you 😊
@eXactModellbauАй бұрын
Die Eier muss man erstmal haben, sein Drehbankbett auf den Hobel zu legen. Die Vorher-Messung funktioniert natürlich nur, wenn man der Geometrie des Hobels 100%ig vertrauen kann. Ist das gegeben?
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
This is google translate both ways so bare with me... Ja und nein... Die Vorher-Messung wie am 2:21min sind nur indikativ, ganz richtigt. Es sind eine aggregat von Planer längsbevegung und drehbenk aber es ist gut. Wie bei allen alten Maschinen müssen Sie wissen, wie sie funktionieren. Zum einen habe ich Arbeitsproben gemacht, um zu evaluieren, wie es läuft. Zum einen gibt es einen Zwischenschritt, den ich glaube ich in einem anderen Film gezeigt zu haben, wo ich vor dem letzten Feinschnitt eine Kontrollmessung mit einem Scheuerlineal durchführe. Hat auch ein Video des Testschnitts in voller Länge. Die Eier sind im Nest ;-) Sehr gute und intressant Arbeit in Ihren Videos!
@eXactModellbau
Ай бұрын
@@henrikandren6967 Vielen Dank für die Antwort. 👍 Was ist denn Ihre Muttersprache?
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Meine muttersprach sind Schwedisch, oder Svenska som vi säger här 🙂
@FrustratedBaboonАй бұрын
That is some high-precision accuracy. I bought a Grizzly lathe and it is a hunk of junk. I am so sad that I don't know how to fix it.
@OlaSkytterenАй бұрын
Wow this is awesome 😍
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks! 😊
@henrikandren6967Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@devmeistersuperprecision415516 күн бұрын
Awsome Planer. What planer do you have?
@ralfralf7443Ай бұрын
Hervorragende Arbeit 👍👍
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@fernanfelipejuradoespinosa131Ай бұрын
Por falta de aceite 10w40 es que se desgaste de hierro colado
@quanghuynguyen6950Ай бұрын
Hà nội việt nam thanhs you
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@IchigoKurusaki1985Ай бұрын
Question, how much wear do you get on tooling like that? How often is it checked? Just curious on the procedure on that with such exacting dimensions.
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
In terms of carbide tool wear, it is insignificant. Imagine and compare to similar tool in a lathe. Say a cutting speed at least 10X and a dia 200 shaft 1m long gives a cutting length of 120m. Just for reference. Back to the question. The edge is diamond lapped sharp and keen, that's what I check. Sharpness and no damages by means of nail shaving and feeling plus visual loupe inspection.
@BigBoss-rh7zqАй бұрын
No hardened ways ? Hope your planer is well aligned too.
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
It's has no hard ways, just had a hard life ;-) In fact it is very easy cutting material. And yes, the planer is set-up and tested.
@tuju-
Ай бұрын
@@henrikandren6967and if they were hardened, would you still have been able to cut it?
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
No, not like this. I do have a small grinding head adapted to fit but I'm still to put it to use as I'm concerned about grinding stuff and it's definitely not set up for flood cooling.
@tuju-
Ай бұрын
@@henrikandren6967 i wonder how it works, if the stone wears to smaller diameter, is it compensated somehow to make the result flat?
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
I'm no grinderhand but I'd think it wear in the similar amounts as other cutters and I think one dress the wheels for sharpness before they go that much out of size. Maybe some expert on grinding can give you a better answer. For me I'd be more concerned with heat build up.
@hamcheeseenterprises6975Ай бұрын
would it be ground after the planing? or is planing enough to get it into spec
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Depends on the spec i guess... If it was to be ground I think it wouldn´t make sense to plane it first. If one wants to it is very possible to scrape finish it after planing it, relatively little work compared to before planing. Now you´d only need to modify the surface and make sure to not alter any flatness or alignment. Otoh, having planed it for smoothnes and the material cut butter smooth, the result after deburring with a ground precision stone really makes you think trice before starting doing anything else to it... I have though planed other cast irons where I would not feel satisfied with the planed finish for a sliding surface. So it might depend on the case at hand as well.
@devmeistersuperprecision4155
16 күн бұрын
Depends. Some lathes have hardened beds and these are best ground. Often, the last bit is accuracy is obtained from hand scraping of the planed surface
@tropifioriАй бұрын
The tailstock of my lathe ( flat ways) is less worn than the headstock end. Can I just switch ends the headstock is on to make the lathe better? I rarely turn really long things.
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
There is nothing really wrong with your thinking in terms using the un worn end of the lathe, I have however a hard time picturing a configuration facilitating it somewhat easy. Some lathes had loose V-prisms that could be turned around, right or wrong.
@tuju-Ай бұрын
Wonder how the world’s first shaper was done.
@DerrangedGadgeteer
Ай бұрын
Very carefully
@sheriffroylambifs894Ай бұрын
99 + % = PERFECT !!!
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words 😊
@toplist2613Ай бұрын
Does any one know of a reference for doing this kind of operation without the use of machinery?
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Edward Connelly, Machine Tool recondition.
@tuju-Ай бұрын
Hope the shaper bed is well lubricated or it will need machining too :)
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
It is indeed, it has an automatic oiling system feeding each side of the V-prisms individually with a heavy flow rate. I run it for quite some time to make sure the oil feed and film is steady before measuring or making chips
@tuju-
Ай бұрын
@@henrikandren6967 compared to lathe, its ways are used a lot more.
@abramfriesen9834Ай бұрын
I have a lathe that's to be done
@jimsvideos7201Ай бұрын
CNC planer?
@jml3327
Ай бұрын
You offering?
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
No, just a normal old planer. Only replaced the belt drive with electric motor and VFD.
@melitonalvarezbaez2158Ай бұрын
El cepillo tendría q estar 0 para dejar la bancada también 0
@robertpearson8546Ай бұрын
So different from the way the Indians/Pakistanis cast a lathe bed out of crap and plane the result to resemble a lathe bed.
Пікірлер: 66
The only thing better than watching a shaper make chips is watching a planer making chips.
Remember to water the tree on the shop floor. Excellent content.
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks, and yah that orange tree have a hard life during winter here. It's a bit more happy now 🙂
Well explained and done, Henrik! Extremely nice actually :) This must be the answer to "home shop/hobbyist" demand for renovating older machines to get these accurate again
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks Jan, ah although it brings something essentially out of order to working condition its not to compare with a proffesionell rebuild. The best thing is that from here most every one mechanically inclined can do the rest.
@blakehorton8110
29 күн бұрын
@@henrikandren6967 would scrapping be the next step ???
So relaxing. I could watch for hours!
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Please do 😀
Very interesting video, a beautiful job, this will give the lathe many years of accurate work. That bed had a significant amount of wear .This lathe looked in a general tidy condition as a machinist. I am fanatical cleaning the bed if anything abrasive has been used and regular lubing. Long-term accuracy depends on the bed and slide condition.
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words and you're spot on regarding cleaning and lubrication. I sent along some extra oilers to be installed.
@sulebifas9248
7 күн бұрын
Bagai mana cara memesan nya dan tau harganya
What is crazy I understand what you did even though I have never done it! Great job! Thank you
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks! 🙂
I have a Rockford hydraulic planer. Love to watch your videos. ---Doozer
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks, there's a few more in the pipeline 🙂
I love the song at second 32, true colors by CYNDI LAUPER.
Very interesting machine, planer for metal surfaces. Cutting tools like lathe, works similar principal of shaper machine. 1st time i see this type of machine. Hope we get to see next part where remainder of work described end this video is shown. Otherwise, keep up the good work
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks, there's more coming 🙂
o adevarata lectie !
Simplesmente um plainamento de mestre parabéns pelo trabalho show 🇧🇷🙏
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thank you sir!
Very well done 👌
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thank you 😊
Die Eier muss man erstmal haben, sein Drehbankbett auf den Hobel zu legen. Die Vorher-Messung funktioniert natürlich nur, wenn man der Geometrie des Hobels 100%ig vertrauen kann. Ist das gegeben?
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
This is google translate both ways so bare with me... Ja und nein... Die Vorher-Messung wie am 2:21min sind nur indikativ, ganz richtigt. Es sind eine aggregat von Planer längsbevegung und drehbenk aber es ist gut. Wie bei allen alten Maschinen müssen Sie wissen, wie sie funktionieren. Zum einen habe ich Arbeitsproben gemacht, um zu evaluieren, wie es läuft. Zum einen gibt es einen Zwischenschritt, den ich glaube ich in einem anderen Film gezeigt zu haben, wo ich vor dem letzten Feinschnitt eine Kontrollmessung mit einem Scheuerlineal durchführe. Hat auch ein Video des Testschnitts in voller Länge. Die Eier sind im Nest ;-) Sehr gute und intressant Arbeit in Ihren Videos!
@eXactModellbau
Ай бұрын
@@henrikandren6967 Vielen Dank für die Antwort. 👍 Was ist denn Ihre Muttersprache?
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Meine muttersprach sind Schwedisch, oder Svenska som vi säger här 🙂
That is some high-precision accuracy. I bought a Grizzly lathe and it is a hunk of junk. I am so sad that I don't know how to fix it.
Wow this is awesome 😍
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks! 😊
Thanks!
Awsome Planer. What planer do you have?
Hervorragende Arbeit 👍👍
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks!
Por falta de aceite 10w40 es que se desgaste de hierro colado
Hà nội việt nam thanhs you
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thank you!
Question, how much wear do you get on tooling like that? How often is it checked? Just curious on the procedure on that with such exacting dimensions.
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
In terms of carbide tool wear, it is insignificant. Imagine and compare to similar tool in a lathe. Say a cutting speed at least 10X and a dia 200 shaft 1m long gives a cutting length of 120m. Just for reference. Back to the question. The edge is diamond lapped sharp and keen, that's what I check. Sharpness and no damages by means of nail shaving and feeling plus visual loupe inspection.
No hardened ways ? Hope your planer is well aligned too.
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
It's has no hard ways, just had a hard life ;-) In fact it is very easy cutting material. And yes, the planer is set-up and tested.
@tuju-
Ай бұрын
@@henrikandren6967and if they were hardened, would you still have been able to cut it?
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
No, not like this. I do have a small grinding head adapted to fit but I'm still to put it to use as I'm concerned about grinding stuff and it's definitely not set up for flood cooling.
@tuju-
Ай бұрын
@@henrikandren6967 i wonder how it works, if the stone wears to smaller diameter, is it compensated somehow to make the result flat?
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
I'm no grinderhand but I'd think it wear in the similar amounts as other cutters and I think one dress the wheels for sharpness before they go that much out of size. Maybe some expert on grinding can give you a better answer. For me I'd be more concerned with heat build up.
would it be ground after the planing? or is planing enough to get it into spec
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Depends on the spec i guess... If it was to be ground I think it wouldn´t make sense to plane it first. If one wants to it is very possible to scrape finish it after planing it, relatively little work compared to before planing. Now you´d only need to modify the surface and make sure to not alter any flatness or alignment. Otoh, having planed it for smoothnes and the material cut butter smooth, the result after deburring with a ground precision stone really makes you think trice before starting doing anything else to it... I have though planed other cast irons where I would not feel satisfied with the planed finish for a sliding surface. So it might depend on the case at hand as well.
@devmeistersuperprecision4155
16 күн бұрын
Depends. Some lathes have hardened beds and these are best ground. Often, the last bit is accuracy is obtained from hand scraping of the planed surface
The tailstock of my lathe ( flat ways) is less worn than the headstock end. Can I just switch ends the headstock is on to make the lathe better? I rarely turn really long things.
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
There is nothing really wrong with your thinking in terms using the un worn end of the lathe, I have however a hard time picturing a configuration facilitating it somewhat easy. Some lathes had loose V-prisms that could be turned around, right or wrong.
Wonder how the world’s first shaper was done.
@DerrangedGadgeteer
Ай бұрын
Very carefully
99 + % = PERFECT !!!
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words 😊
Does any one know of a reference for doing this kind of operation without the use of machinery?
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
Edward Connelly, Machine Tool recondition.
Hope the shaper bed is well lubricated or it will need machining too :)
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
It is indeed, it has an automatic oiling system feeding each side of the V-prisms individually with a heavy flow rate. I run it for quite some time to make sure the oil feed and film is steady before measuring or making chips
@tuju-
Ай бұрын
@@henrikandren6967 compared to lathe, its ways are used a lot more.
I have a lathe that's to be done
CNC planer?
@jml3327
Ай бұрын
You offering?
@henrikandren6967
Ай бұрын
No, just a normal old planer. Only replaced the belt drive with electric motor and VFD.
El cepillo tendría q estar 0 para dejar la bancada también 0
So different from the way the Indians/Pakistanis cast a lathe bed out of crap and plane the result to resemble a lathe bed.