Will you be using this system of Hans to remove ladders and unwanted walls from your ships?

@AlexHaan

10 ай бұрын

Certainly. It would help if you added the two system names in the video description though. And/or add timestamps for those parts.

@Shadow__133

10 ай бұрын

I already do, though the video certainly helped understand some of the obscure properties. They really need to fix this, having to rely on hab connectors to force doors and stairs is ridiculous.

@notreallydaedalus

10 ай бұрын

Absolutely not. The extra passageways are much worse than the odd doors.

@Mrcold1

10 ай бұрын

What he didn't showcase is how much of those things weigh each one of those spines with almost twice as much as one full 2x1 hab, That's a lot of unnecessary mass.

@Shadow__133

10 ай бұрын

@@Mrcold1 That is true, but I wouldn't call unnecessary if you want to avoid the cheap'o ladders but still have a double decker. Put more engines and landing gears if you have to.

They really need to implement interior ship design

@Shadow__133

10 ай бұрын

Indeed. They need to do a lot of things for this game to come out of mediocrity. Interior ship design (at least color and a few variants), outpost furnished rooms, ladder and door placements, better structural modules etc.

@thomasn3071

10 ай бұрын

@Shadow__133 Yeah, it's a decent game that could be so much better if they just did a few things

@Linkinpurk

10 ай бұрын

in a year the creation kit will be released

@thomasn3071

10 ай бұрын

@@Linkinpurk yeah but I don't think that's quite the same.

@d1rtyr3d18

10 ай бұрын

Agreed

Probably worth pointing out that you can not only avoid ladders, you can also avoid doors - Taiyo has 2x1 habs that only have doors at the end, not at the sides. This also helped me a lot to control the flow through the ship.

@superdave8248

10 ай бұрын

Those are top and bottom type "A" habs I believe. Interestingly enough, the interior layouts do differ some between type A and type B. mainly because one has side door options while the other does not.

@kcdodger

9 ай бұрын

That's impressive.

A thing I noticed that might help people with ladderless ship builds is that portholes seem to take priority over placement of a ladder. I had two random ladders. One going up through the armory into the captain's quarters in the aft section and one going up from the science lab into the living quarters in the starboard section. Putting a single aft porthole removed the armory ladder and starboard/port portholes removed the ladders in those sections.

The spinal corridor is exclusive to HopeTech, so you don't have a choice there. For the crosswise corridors however, both Nova Galactic and HopeTech have those. Especially early on, do not use the HopeTech ones. Both work exactly the same, but HopeTech is 3.5 times heavier. Mass 14 compared to the Nova corridor's 4. Those 10 extra mass does add up, especially if you're using a bunch of corridors. Matters less when you're doing a Class C ship that masses in the thousands, but if you're trying to this with a Class A, or even a Class B it can be punishing. More ship modules is certainly the number 1 thing I'm looking forward to, be they from mods once the mod tools come out, or official. Two blocks tall companionways that house a ramp or a staircase is on top of the wishlist.

@High_Key

10 ай бұрын

I’d also add door locations and rotatable/horizontal orientation habs

@Stukov961

10 ай бұрын

@@High_Key Oh god yeah, that would be so good. A cutaway view so we can see the interior of the habs and manual door placement would be a godsend. Habs being rotatable in 90 degree steps, visible interior, dedicated stairwell pieces and manually placed doors, and the ship builder would be basically perfect.

@TotalXclipse

10 ай бұрын

Good tip!

@steveharvold

10 ай бұрын

I'd love a 1x1 hab with a bed. I prefer more compact ships and would honestly go without any habs at all, if not for wanting to have a bed in order to heal and get the XP bonus.

@Stukov961

10 ай бұрын

@@steveharvold I do like compact ships, and they work great early on, but once you have a bunch of companions hanging around in your ship it gets pretty crowded. And Bethesda pathfinding is far from the best. I'm currently building a new ship because there's constant traffic jams right outside the cockpit.

While I don't mind ladders in some ship designs, this has been super helpful in figuring out how to better control where door will be. Thank you!

Great tips for forcing a layout! Not sure if anyone else commented this, but using a slim docker on the bottom, and possibly on the landing bay, avoids the ladder for it inside your ship.

@DovahKanye

9 ай бұрын

I've used that, it gives you great freedom on how tall or long the ship is, because using the stroud landing gear lines up perfectly which no parts can be under that anyway.

@EnglishSaxons

9 ай бұрын

hate those ugly ladders with often no way of getting off making them useless i have to jetpack up which is just stupid af

@pragmaticeagle4832

9 ай бұрын

@@EnglishSaxons You get off the ladder by pressing left... fyi

@LDillon

9 ай бұрын

@@EnglishSaxons You just get off the ladders by moving sidewards lol

i've built a huge ship before but its really nice to visually see and hear where to place everything to avoid too many ladders. super appreciated. my only issue with large ship builds in this game is that it was easy for me to get lost. i REALLY wish there was like a way to customize the interiors even slightly, just to add signage or a map or something.

Using spine hallways like this can lead to a lot of hidden components such as enclosing the grav drive or the reactor on the inside of the ship.

@cryptc

10 ай бұрын

Also good for smuggling, place shielded cargo in middle of ship to not have it be spotted by nosy customs officers

@chefdoc

10 ай бұрын

Does having the reactor, grav drive and shield hidden amongst hull and hab pieces have an effect in combat?

@spoopymcpooperface6707

10 ай бұрын

@@chefdoc not sure, possibly but I doubt it. I feel from a role play perspective it would make sense to not expose your reactor though

@chefdoc

10 ай бұрын

@@spoopymcpooperface6707 I agree with the role play part. Taking some time tonight to use the ideas in this video to make my ultimate ship. Been messing around with different models but none sit right. Hopefully the things learnt in this video will help me out. Also be nice to see the OP test out the theory I mentioned.

@dyent

10 ай бұрын

@@chefdoc I don't think it actually matters to the game where they're located, but in my mind it does so I tend to put grav drives at the back (like an engine) and put the reactor on top/bottom with radiators to pretend its got cooling - usually ill put the reactor either directly above or below the grav drive, because that'd make sense for radiation shielding to protect passengers. Plus if your reactor started to overload its better to be able to jettison it and wait for assistance than to blow up. If it did matter where they were located then you'd want the parts with the highest Hull value on the outside, which would be the grav drive and reactor.

Really useful, thanks! It's clear this is one area the devs put a lot of time into, however, I hope they continue to improve it so this kind of workaround isn't necessary as it easily doubles the size of the ship and adds a lot of weight that could go into cargo instead.

@kedolan4992

10 ай бұрын

To be fair, the connectors are like 5-10 mass or something, while a single cargo bay is like 200+ mass. I really don't think you're going to notice the mobility loss: either you have a good chunk of cargo so the mass is a tiny fraction of the total, or you have no cargo so your engines don't care and power through it anyway.

@QuotidianStupidity

10 ай бұрын

Is it clear? - the system was basically a plug and play element from another game, and then custom assets, of which there aren't that many, certainly not compared to how many plants and other assorted items they made

The design principles of this video helped me build one of the most successful ship interiors I've yet seen. 100% functional and flows logically. The only ladder is actually where you would put one in real life, linking the back of the overhead 3x1 engineering hab with the below 3x2 cargo bay. That cargo bay is also what connects to both airlocks with the landing bay being rear facing and the slimdocker on the underside. In this way people and materials flow naturally into the storage area and engineering has first access to stored ship parts and ready access to visiting ship technicians. Gameplaywise it's probably the simplest layout for a large starship and the keys are those hallways and the NovaGalactic cockpit.

Ive found it useful to hover the connection you prefer an add the hab from it. If the hab snaps to the point in an odd way, overlaps or isnt aligned properly, then it wont connect the way you want an youll have to adjust accordingly. I do appreciate a ladder here an there to boost jump around the ship, but i want to control exactly where they appear. Using the highlight an add method seems to ensure that for me.

This is fantastic and will have to overhaul my ship to make its layout not a mess. Still desperately needed to have taller habs (so not everything is a x1 tall), stairs, and the option to turn off above, below, and front/back connections with individual pieces.

Bless you for this. I've struggled so much with hab layout and accidentally blocking my ship out to be a labyrinth

Learned something cool about the Cabot - you can put equipment panels on top of the very first habs attached on the bottom to prevent ladders. So, if you attach a 2x2 on the bottom slot, you can put x4 equipment panels, and another 2x2 on top of those (it connects to the 2nd level of the bridge).

The ship building scene is being completely held up by people like you and you have my huge thanks for the guide. The fact that we have to just add parts and hope for the best with no insight as to what the parts look like in the builder was a gigantic misstep on Bethesda's part. I mean even so much as cockpits including a line like "enter from ___" would be miles better than we have now.

I've been trying to figure out how the game decides where to put the doors but after seeing this I'm going back and adding in my own hallways. Amazing video!!!

I've seen some clips online of people using the horizontal walkways/spines but didn't know where to get them, now I know thanks to this vid.

Wish there was a site with all the ship parts listed. We need a way to see what each hab interior looks like, as each brand has their own look on the inside and out

@ddssrr1614

10 ай бұрын

plenty of videos on showcasing interiors. Check em out. Just search for it.

@penmaster003

10 ай бұрын

There are a couple of people who have tours of the interiors on youtube. Space Coconut and DeLindsay Gaming are two of them that I have found. I do wish that the game let you look on the inside while building it though. That would be nice.

@ddssrr1614

10 ай бұрын

@@penmaster003 & add doors / ladders where you want from an interior view / edit phase. Would be also nice to just see how rooms look before purchasing i agree.

@Zerashadow

10 ай бұрын

After som testing i ended up with a odd mix since Stroud has the best Workshop, but hope or nova (wich ever has the mannequins) has the best armor, and Taiyo has some cool living and captain quarters. But i wanna make a ship with better flow, and a proper Brig wich is 3x2, but not sure if that one is level locked or i just havn't found the vendor.

@shadowgamer5scorpio815

10 ай бұрын

I spent several hours building all the rooms, and noticed that some habs were similar design but had different colors. There are 5 ship manufacturers, making 5 vendor locations for unique parts with some bleed over on what they list. Seems like Nova is the only true unique layout style, but is similar in ascetic to Taiyo. Demios and Stroud share similar interiors, whith demios having a brighter vibe and Stroud having a few orange acents in the interior. Hopetech and Taiyo share similar interiors, with hopetech generaly having the darkest colors. Taiyo uses alot of rounded corners, and is the only hab with different outer shapes to pick ftom.

Very nice design! I'm definitely going to do something similar. The one thing I know I'll make different is that my infirmary will be on the bottom floor, right next to the access ramp. If my crew gets badly injured on the field, I'd rather not have them walk up the stairs and bleed all over before accessing the infirmary lol

@timfederwitz

10 ай бұрын

Another bonus of this, you can use the bed in there to sleep and heal and it's right at the entrance to the ship!! Great idea! Stolen!! LOL

@kedolan4992

10 ай бұрын

Just make sure to have a docker somewhere on that first floor then, so that if you're coming back from a fight on a space station you're still on the same floor as the medbay!

Great vid! Very informative! I've also discovered that each hab has its own "preferred" connection point. For example the Deimos 2x2 Battle Station will always establish a connection through the aft-right point if there's a choice.

Best layout guide yet. Also the only successful loop build ive seen. I tried to make a loop a differnt way and broke the game. Thanks for your hard work mate.

I really do hate ladders lol. Half the time I end up falling back down. I don't want my ship to be a maze. Simple and effective.

Well done and thank you for clearing up this confusing situation.

Another tip is that if you vertically align a vertical exit docker and a vertical exit landing bay, they will be the only ladders on your ship. You're free to lay out each floor however without worry that your ladder won't appear randomly.

@gavanwhatever8196

9 ай бұрын

Nope. I'm in the process of customising an Ecliptic Claymore. I did precisely that. Landing bay with 2 companionways stacked on top with a docker on the top of that. Worked perfectly then, at the other end of the ship, I swapped out the 2x2 brig for a 2x2 living quarters and now I have a ladder right in front of the upper level and lower level cockpit hatches... So frustrating!

I really love this large bridge used in your build. I used the DEIMOS one on my first large build. But the offset view really threw me off. This bridge with the stairs and clean appearance just checks all the boxes for me.

Please do a build guide for this ship. Looks really nice and I love the long sight lines inside it...

Very impressive! I'll be taking some ideas for when I get to the late parts of the game!

I personally learned a lot from watching this video. I really like the ship layout. Liked and subbed. keep up the good work and be blessed bruh

Wish I'd watched this before starting my Star trek type build, there are two pieces you highlighted that would have made my build less painful, thank you.

The one thing I hate about the ship parts, is only 1 brand has these connectors, and they are a pain to find if you're just starting out. These should be part of the "general" purpose parts found on almost every world honestly. Nice build though, thanks for sharing the locations!

@superdave8248

10 ай бұрын

That is the thing about this game. Depending on your game play, you can come across these vendors very early. I don't even recall what quest sent me to Hopetown the first time. It wasn't even the main quest with the rangers. Some other quest sent me there first. But even if you don't do quests and limit your exploration, if you shift gears to outpost building I believe both pieces becomes available to you in your landing bay ship build menu. But I may be mistaken about that.

@eriklerougeuh5772

10 ай бұрын

build an outpost, build the bigger landingpad, you ll have more option.

@Haladmer

10 ай бұрын

@@eriklerougeuh5772 Current playthrough, lvl 50, (NG+ 6x) maxed ship building, piloting and outpost engineering. These hallway pieces are only available via the specific vendors, just like the other limited parts. They should be generic components, not tied to specific brands, OR each brand should have their own flavor of these parts. According to the game, only ::Edit:: 2 companies saw value in these type of parts being a thing, and only in specific areas. ::/edit::

@Haladmer

10 ай бұрын

@@superdave8248 I've maxed my ship components and piloting skills, at lvl 50+ and they are still not available via the large pad w/ship designer. They're tied to the specific vendors (or were before the patch, I've not tried since patching) ::Edit:: Just confirmed, large pad w/ship builder does not show these passage halls under the Habs or Structural tabs.

@superdave8248

10 ай бұрын

@@Haladmer Noted. And that is the thing about the outpost build option. It does tend to ignore the unique pieces. The Nova two story bridges? Not available. Certain high end cargo modules? Not available (but surprisingly shielded is). Some engine options? Not available. I suspect you are correct and any unique part from a specific vendor is not available at your outpost. The painful part is going to these vendors with a half built ship and all because you want one piece from a specific vendor. You probably spend more credits on modules you need just to keep your ship fly-able than you do buying the actual unique parts from vendors you will use to replace them.

Well this is really nice, did not know that the cockpit comes with staircases. Thank you!

Your videos have helped me a ton across multiple games. Thank You!

The Nova Cross Passage, the HopeTech Lab Spine, and the HopeTech Cross Brace are absolute game changers in shipbuilding! I, too, created a three-layer ship with only one ladder and that was on purpose for cosmetic/RP purposes. I'll make a vid to it one day.

Thanks to this video, we now have a lovely ship on two levels, but with no pesky ladders running through the middle. That is one of my only criticisms with the ship builder tool. Well, that and you can't see how the rooms look inside before you place them. But thanks for this video. It really helped us understand ship building a whole lot more.

Excellent. Thanks! *Can't wait for a modder to do something like: Take a flat piece (like the flat weapon mount plate), make it vertical, and put the connector points from the spines onto it. So you could have the forced connections without the extra pathway distances.

I've been looking for this cockpit for days thank you!!!!!

this is the best breakdown i've seen so far

Fabulous guide! I loved it a lot! Great content, well expalined and on point! +1 Sub! Keep up the good work! Thanks!

Awesome walkthrough, thank-you!

Awesome design. A full build video would be great 👍👍👍

This makes the ship longer than it really needs to be. I really hope Bethesda implements a way to enforce where connections go or don't go (just as long as every hab has a valid connection to the bridge).

Ha! I had not noticed those spine and cross tunnel pieces before. Having that pointed out was well worth watching your video.

Thank you for this. I wanted ladder-free design as well.

LOVED this video.

I will be sure to refer back to this when i can build it.. looks great

Thank you, you solved my biggest bugbear with the ship designer!

Thank you for this! I'm headed back to the game to try it myself!!

Usual top notch TotalXclipse quality content. I got here randomly, was surprised about the content quality, then checked the channel name, and I wasn't surprised anymore.

Amazing design and good info. Thanks for the guide.

Excellent, informative build!

This is a game changer. Thanks!

I have finally designed a ship with no ladders. A bit of a pain to do as we don’t have any outpost and I realised you can’t duplicate parts if they are not available at that ship port. Thanks so much from the help.

Yes, please do a build video!👍

Good guide. I somehow accidentally built a ship that was two floors (using the Nova Cabot C4) with zero ladders and zero door mazes, but I didn't pay attention to how I did it and I couldn't replicate it. This video along with the comments section gives me an understanding of how to manipulate the shipbuilding process.

A build guide for this would be awsome 😀 Great jobb

This was so helpful, thank you 🙏

Love it! Subed!

Great video and yes a build video would be welcome.

Brilliant, very helpful

Wow i really like the way that ship looks like. Might have to try and make one like yours that is my cargo hauler.

Now i have new project to do. Thanks!

Would be nice if there were modules like the passageway that go diagonally in a ramp from one level to the other instead of the ladders. That, and a way to definte WHERE ladders AND doors are open/closed. Better might just be if the player can open them after the ship is build.

@MDK_24_

10 ай бұрын

I would like it if they let us click on the walls to change them to doorways kinda like how you can on some outpost buildings changing them to windows and such.

In terms of armory my favorite has to be the Nova Galactic. Its the only one with Mannequins. 2 of them even.

@chaosmeisters6781

10 ай бұрын

Yea but they eat stuff you put on it. :-/

@Jacob-nn9in

10 ай бұрын

​@@chaosmeisters6781 Think they just fixed that in the latest patch

@chaosmeisters6781

10 ай бұрын

@@Jacob-nn9in Yes, I saw it! Very happy camper now.

As far as I understand it, every time you let a hab snap onto another, it checks for a connection to a connected bay to determine the door it makes. I also want to mention cursoring over the node you want to be a door and adding the new module will always force a door. However some of the habs you select prefer a location if it has multiple options (like a stbd connection on a 1x2, some will prefer the aft or fore port connection).

@richardcagle5475

10 ай бұрын

Yup. I use this an have a lot lot less issues with random doors an ladders. Have really only built two ships after learning this tip, so I don't know if it's absolute, but both ships flowed exactly how I planned them to. Ladders aren't a bad thing. Random ass ladder all over the place is the real issue an this method allows you to predict where they'll be

Oh, also not that Stroud has a a side docker that nicely match the landing bay, and HopeTech has both a front and a side docker. Using either flavour of side docker means you can eliminate the docking port ladder as well. Sadly you can't flip the front docker around to face aft, but that would've been great. If you're using a docker on the bottom, you might as well use any of the three landing bays with a top connection as well. It'll just give you an identical small bit of ladder sticking up with a closed floor hatch, identical to the docking port.

Looks sick

If you click the attachment point, then use the "Attach" function, it creates the connection at that specific point, rather than randomly assigning doors and ladders. I'm not sure whether this is the same thing that you're trying to solve.

i built ladder free ship like this like a week ago before venturing to new game+. other than the Cabot cockpit, most habs that I used are from nova/new homestead, and other parts in Cheyenne/Akila city (engines reactor etc). the 1st floor I use is the 3x1 engineering, eklund side bay and workshop/infirmary next to the engineering hab (all 3 Habs are connected to the Cabot). the second floor attached to the Cabot is 2x2 nova battlestation and a control station/computer core. On the left wing i have 2x2 living quarter and a captains quarter, while the right wing I put 3 2x1 Habs (armory, science lab, 1 all in one berth) The most convenient of my build is that all landing and docking are in one spot (I use NG-2 docker right above the engineering and directly adjacent to the side bay, it took me a while to make it ladder free on the 2nd floor (never put armory on top of engineering hab). I know my ship looks more of like a giant slab with no decor, but it gets the job done and easy access inside, and with 100 mobility its almost invincible:)

A build video of this ship would be fantastic

omg finally looping layouts. ship builder is driving me nuts :D

Really useful video. I wasn't even aware of the hab connectors so I've used them to improve my main ship. It doesn't loop like your example because I didn't want it to be as wide or long as would be needed but It runs front to back on both sides with one connection on the lower deck to the Captain's quarters in the middle (it's three habs wide, top and bottom) and, although it technically has ladders, there's only one on the lower deck connecting to the lander, which makes sense and one on the upper deck which connects to the docker from the armoury, which also makes sense. The only shame is that you can't put a docker on top of the hab spine so I could have had one ladder running from landing bay to docker. Happy enough though so thanks.

Love it!

Great job.

Thx for tips to build a ship make this easier.

Thanks for the information of force doorway.

That bridge is game changer.

According to my testing. On a ship with stairs, the only time you will see ladders on a 2 level ship is if you add a companionway. Companionways are given preference for ladder placement. You can even get multiple ladders by adding multiple companionways. If you don't want a ladder, but still want a 1x1 then you use a storeroom instead, which seems to be given last selection for ladder placement. Using these modules you can easily control your ladder placement. If you want it in a specific place between 3 levels, then one 1x1 hab on one of those levels must be a companionway, otherwise the ladder placement will be random.

Great vid ! I also like 2 build 1-story ships or using that exact bridge to make it 2 stories....But so far I did not use those connection-thingies u used... good idea !

For full creativity and control, we need ALL parts available at the outpost landing pad. Otherwise you have to make concessions and lose focus of your intent

@seoghdha4389

9 ай бұрын

My current plan for when I make my "perfect ship" is to buy all the unique parts I want and throw em on wherever they fit, then go to the landing pad builder and actually build. I'll just move the unique parts off to the side till I get to where I actually want them.

@HellraiserMark666

9 ай бұрын

There is a mod for PC where you can give all of the available ship parts to a ship technician, but in game would be nice. You can also have the majority of the parts at an outpost landing pad.

@iskenderaknc7460

6 ай бұрын

That's not immersive. What we need is to be able to save cbanges on a ship edit. And not being forced to make the whole ship flyable in 1 go.

The Cabot bridge does most of the work for a no-ladder build, in my experience the 1x1 Companion Way and 1x1 Storage Room are the biggest culprits for putting ladders in an otherwise ladderless layout so best to avoid using those pieces on top or below other hab access points. That said, the NG and HopeTech hallway/spine pieces are very useful when you really want to specify exactly where hab entrances will be placed, as sadly there’s very little else we can do for now.

Good tip!

I use this cockpit with a similar layout, i would personally use a bay that has a ladder as you can easily spawn in stuck underneath the cockpit.

My ship is somewhat similar but I have only one short corridor bridging the gap between 2 modules in the back. All other modules touch each other on two levels. First try was an infuriating maze. I got lost on the way to the bridge. Second try was tolerable, but after swapping some modules in some unbelievable stroke of luck all internal connections were perfectly placed and also symmetrical. I will never touch any of the room modules again, because it can only get worse now if I do. Once I unlock C ships I will build another one.

Would love more variation in habs passagways, like taller habs and passage staircases that brings you one level down to the side. With such a piece you can make two stories without ladders and you can use any cockpit. I hope someone adds that in some kind og mod.

@QuotidianStupidity

10 ай бұрын

Given how many assets they created for the game world, I am surprised they went with so few ship interior styles.

@SpaceMike3

9 ай бұрын

​@@QuotidianStupiditytime constraints I assume.

@QuotidianStupidity

9 ай бұрын

@@SpaceMike3 surely a few less potted plants vs some actual variance with the ships would have been better. Seems a bit half arsed to me. Just lighting differences. In lore, not one manufacturer went with a more luxury/stylish design style?

There is a way to eliminate the half ladder for bottom boarding and that's to use the side or fore dockers with one of the two the doorway bays. But your pathways are VERY specific if you do this and you have to use hab spines (hopetech) and corridors (hopetech or nova). Hopetech corridors can be snapped top or bottom. Nova ones have no "magnets".

@bugnazbinnyking1198

8 ай бұрын

You can just stick a side docker onto any of the Habs. Just pick a Hab without anything you'd want to lose (bed, work station etc) in that area. You can also Flip the Slim Docker to make it a bottom docker - and I don't think that has a ladder, I could be wrong though.

@bra171

8 ай бұрын

@@bugnazbinnyking1198 it has to be on an outer edge. So it's not just that simple. Same rules as dockers. What if my outer edge isn't habs? Bottom docker has a half ladder.

Very cool! I half way figured this stuff out but your video did make a couple of lightbulbs go off. I'm still using a single 4-story tall ladder in the back of the ship leading from the entrance to each floor, but there are no ladders. The cockpit that only has the entrance on the underside is the 4th "floor" at the top of my ladder.

My one problem will now be solved 😂 thanks!

Yes do a build series on this ship.

Very helpful

Cool. Satisfactory finally added flying factories. Okay, for real though, nice guide. I didn't know about the spine pieces. I haven't acquired that just yet. Without being able to play with them, I'm not seeing a way to add things like a mess hall and not have ladders, unless you want a HUGE ship.

I ised the design to build my version. Have a few structural changes. It's also a bit shorter as it won't allow anything bigger for me. But it's layout is perfect for what I need it for.

OK .. I initially did not like this concept; however, I revisited it after a few days, and I just built a ship using the concepts here. The ship has 38 power, 30 LY Jump. Weapons 112 BAL, 1 EM, 148 PAR (PAR is Auto Turret). 1600 Shield, 8 crew, 420 fuel. 6240 cargo. 1483 hull. 130 top speed and 90 mobility. With my current crew of Sarah, Sam, and Andreja (I am going to recruit non companion NPC crew in a little bit), my cargo is 8237. Readtor is 43. Shield is 4160. It can carry 6 passengers. The only ladder on the ship is the Docking Port. There are a couple doors and hatches on each level. This is by far my most powerful ship. And the connivence of not having ladders is immeasurable. This very thought-out system to build ships is spot on. I should have learned my lesson based on your Satisfactory videos and not taken 3 days to come back and create a similar ship 😁 Thanks for your very good advice and outstanding videos.

@TotalXclipse

10 ай бұрын

Sounds like an awesome ship

Blue and yellow ship called the Trident... I see what you did there. I dig it! ;)

@TotalXclipse

10 ай бұрын

Hahaha unplanned!

Wanting to do something with the Frontier, I turned it into a B-class beast that ended up looking a lot like your C-class ship. Naturally, I used the Cabot cockpit. I just need to figure out how to get rid of the ladder without having to make it so big. I did use the horizontal hallways in two places I need to play around with it some more.

It's worth mentioning that New Homestead on Titan has specialized cockpits from more than just Nova Galactic. They also have the Ares cockpit from Deimos. Additionally, they also have the spine pieces from HopeTech. Aaaaand they have extra large habs from the other manufacturers, as well.

Ive done something very similar to this, and i am trying to have just 1 ladded at the back of the ship to loop both levels but it always creates a ladder up front and never the back!

If you select the white circle on the already placed module ie the cockpit in this case (be it on the side or back or top etc) and add the module u want from the menu u can get the door way where you want it rather then leaving it to chance or having to use those spine pieces that just add weight to your ship and make it bigger then needed. If you just spawn the item from the menu like the streamer did than place it the door or ladder will be random. unless u use the spines which you don't have to do.

@keith4047

10 ай бұрын

Side note mostly this works, but sometime the game has a mind of its own.

I would love to see a build video if you wouldn't mind please?! I just liked & subscribed, I'm new to ship builder, and a build video for this would be amazing! Thank you for the great content either way!

Something worth mentioning. The Hopewell "spine" and hab cross piece both come in at 14 mass. Which is almost 3 times the weight of a normal 1X1 hab. The Nova cross piece comes in at 4. Which is less than a 1x1 hab. An extra 10 mass might not seem like much but it adds up quick. Especially when you are trying to build larger multi-tier level ships. All that weight impacts mobility. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. There is a Class C engine that weights a ton but only uses 2 power and produces a ridiculous amount of thrust. So with a 12 power allotment, you can stack six of these engines together in a build and damn near ignore weight restrictions. That engine also from what I understand gives a top speed of 180. The fastest currently in game. It is a quest reward and from what I have heard, a reward specific to a end quest outcome. So if this engine is what you are looking for in your builds, I'd suggest researching the quest and quest result you need to get it. I'll be honest. I really wonder if the Hopewell pieces are a typo. They both were supposed to be "4" mass just like the Nova cross piece. Hopewell is also the only provider for fuselage pieces that are also crosswalks. I also think these pieces were misidentified in the game. Instead of "Structures" they should have been listed under "Habs" just like the spine and crosswalk pieces. What is great about the fuselage pieces is that if you place this piece on top of a ladder well it will act as a termination of the ladder well. Combine this with the two story Nova bridge and there is no path conflict. You can have both a ladder well and the stair case with no breaks in your travel path. Slap a 1X1 hab where the fuselage is, and magically you now have a conflict in your path and the travel path will be blocked right at the 1X1 you are using for your ladder well.