Pixinsight SPCC Color Calibration

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Pixinsight's SPCC color calibration (Spectrophotometric Color Calibration) tool is for accurate color in your images. In this video, I'll show you how to use it.
PLEASE NOTE: If your image does not have an astrometric solution, SPCC won't work. You can go to Scripts/Image Analysis/ImageSolver and search for your object and then click ok to apply an astrometric solution to your image.
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  • @VisibledarkAstro
    @VisibledarkAstro Жыл бұрын

    Please note: If your image does not have an astrometric solution, SPCC won't work. You can go to Scripts/Image Analysis/ImageSolver and search for your object and then click ok to apply an astrometric solution to your image.

  • @bengterlandsson7921

    @bengterlandsson7921

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the information it will definitely help.

  • @Fat-totoro-cat

    @Fat-totoro-cat

    Жыл бұрын

    Shouldnt NINA add an astrometric solution to the FITS file if it's solved by ASTAP?

  • @paulwilson8367

    @paulwilson8367

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Fat-totoro-cat I'm wondering the same thing. I used NINA instead of my ASIAIR Pro, and Pixinsight keeps saying "No atrometric solution" when I attempt to run this.

  • @StangspringDK

    @StangspringDK

    Жыл бұрын

    When using DBE, prior to SPCC, make sure you choose "Replace Target Image" to preserve astrometric information. If you don't, the processed image does not preserve this information.

  • @standfest_party

    @standfest_party

    6 ай бұрын

    "Sorry, but this is not supported in current PixInsight versions." when I use ImageSolver.

  • @sekitv
    @sekitv Жыл бұрын

    Another great how to Shawn san. Thank you very much every time!!

  • @oldpicker6315
    @oldpicker63157 ай бұрын

    Oh my heck!!! You have saved me hours of frustration and searching. I thank you so much for putting this all together. You are my man!

  • @jamescowlan8465
    @jamescowlan8465 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Shawn, Thank you for the great content. As usual you’ve done a splendid job of showing how it works.

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks James. One thing to note... Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have it if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution.

  • @briantheprimateastro
    @briantheprimateastro3 ай бұрын

    This video helped me a lot. I am new to Pixinsight, and was not sure how to get SPCC up and running. You saved me a lot of time! Clear Skies!

  • @nikszymaneksastronomymusic6246
    @nikszymaneksastronomymusic62467 ай бұрын

    Extremely helpful as usual. Thanks very much! 👍👍👍

  • @janeclark1881
    @janeclark1881 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! At last I got SPCC to work, so I'm a happy little bunny 🙂

  • @bengterlandsson7921
    @bengterlandsson7921 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video!

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! See my pinned comment. Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have this if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution.

  • @mupangamwanakatwe1300
    @mupangamwanakatwe1300 Жыл бұрын

    Short, sharp, sweet!! 👍👏👏

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @denbergeron
    @denbergeron Жыл бұрын

    Great video Shawn. Thank You.

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    You are very welcome

  • @Lasserubinskov
    @Lasserubinskov Жыл бұрын

    Quick and easy guide. Thanks :)

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    One thing I should add... Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have it if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution. See my note at the top of comments about this. Cheers.

  • @janeclark1881
    @janeclark188111 ай бұрын

    As a point of information, storing the Gaia data in the PixInsight folder in C:\Program Files causes it to be deleted if you upgrade PixInsight. You may want to store the Gaia data elsewhere!

  • @fjrodrick
    @fjrodrick6 ай бұрын

    Thanks! My brain is atrophying from disuse but my pictures are getting better and better! Can’t wait for you to explain the next PixInsight mystery to me.

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    6 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the super thanks!

  • @donsinger1
    @donsinger1 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Shawn thanks for short and sweet video. You need to add that the ImageSolver script needs to be run first otherwise SPCC or PCC will now fail. Additionally it would be nice to know how to set up the filter choices for an OSC

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Don. Yes I'll pin a note in the comments here about that. The image does need an astrometric solution for SPCC to work. Cheers.

  • @CaptRescue2
    @CaptRescue2 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Shawn!

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks watching Capt! Note... Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have it if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution.

  • @Ed-yj8ts
    @Ed-yj8ts Жыл бұрын

    This is cool but I miss the old photometric calibration where one loads the focal length, pixel size, time, and then search for an object such as M31. The new SPCC doesn't work for me. Has the old PCC been retired? Love your videos. You're one of the few guys that doesn't compress 10 minutes of info into a 20 minute video.

  • @stevesolon6710
    @stevesolon67104 ай бұрын

    As always, many thanks, Shawn. I'm a little late to the party, but nonetheless . . . mui appreciado, which is "New Mexico Speak" for gracias!😁

  • @valnuke
    @valnuke2 ай бұрын

    thanks man

  • @waldemarwitt764
    @waldemarwitt7648 ай бұрын

    Viele Dank!!

  • @mr.d.8121
    @mr.d.8121 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Shawn. ⛄️🎄. I know others have asked, but what 'filter' setting should I consider when using OSC with 'no filter' , such as the L-eXtreme, please?

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a good question. For OSC on its own you can select ideal curve and then use a uv/ir filter choice from the drop down. The problem I am seeing is not all the filters are shown. I'm looking into this more. Hopefully I will find an answer.

  • @landarch283
    @landarch283 Жыл бұрын

    I’m having a difficult time getting SPCC to work on a narrowband image taken with a OSC camera (ZWO ASI2600MC PRO) using an Optolong l-xtreme filter. Would you be able to give me the appropriate settings or better yet, do a tutorial?

  • @alainprefontaine6092
    @alainprefontaine6092 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video Shawn. In the filters section, what should I do when using a "One Shot Color" camera (in my case ZWO ASI294MC Pro)? Images were taken without filters. Should I choose the "Sony color sensor R or R-UVIRcut or R-UVcut ?

  • @RyansAstrophotos

    @RyansAstrophotos

    Жыл бұрын

    I have the same camera and I chose the Sony sensor R. It seemed to have worked well for mine.

  • @sammyairlines9307
    @sammyairlines9307 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video Shawn. Now I'm going to watch your "Pixinsight SPCC Fails" video. Another user asked and I will echo, what about filter selection for those of us that use OSC cameras?

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    For OSC data I use the Sony uv/ir cut filter options. Majority of cmos cams we use are Sony sensors.

  • @frankrossetti4413
    @frankrossetti4413 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Shawn. What settings should be used for the filters if using a OSC camera and something like an Optolong L-Pro or IDAS NBZ?

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    The Lpro is in the filter management but does not show in the drop down menus. I am looking into this further. But for OSC on its own you can select ideal curve and then use a uv/ir filter choice from the drop down.

  • @ddiver7908
    @ddiver7908 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the tutorial. Question: when do you apply SPCC; linear or non-linear phase of the workflow?

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Should be applied to linear image. Cheers.

  • @weshandrow2011
    @weshandrow2011 Жыл бұрын

    The file type provided in the download is XPSD, but what the program wants is XSPD. The former is of no use to the program and isn't even seen by the program. What's the solution?

  • @curtisswitzer8134
    @curtisswitzer8134 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Shawn, love your videos and always really good info. As a request for teaching people and being clear, you often say "Check OFF background ....." when in fact you want people to select that particular option even though you say "Off". To avoid confusion could you just say "Check" or "Turn on by checking". Thank you

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a good point. Thanks. Now if I can catch myself before saying it. Lol.

  • @lynnhilborn5947
    @lynnhilborn5947 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Shawn Thanks for the video, indeed, all your videos. Any comment on filter selection for a Ha modified Canon 6D ? Cheerd

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Lynn. So modding makes the dslr transmit like a cooled camera with uv/ir. Use ideal curve and the Canon osc filter. The 5d should be fine.

  • @skatsikas
    @skatsikas Жыл бұрын

    Shawn, what might you suggest for an OSC with the l-eNhance filter? Would the narrowband clickbox be appropriate?

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Steve - yes use the narrowband checkbox. Here's a video demonstrating this... kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4mYlqZ7ptOpnLw.html

  • @nebula1863
    @nebula186311 ай бұрын

    Is this superior to PCC? Both use known star/galaxy catalogues and take into account filters. I’d assume their performance is very similar.

  • @mpk2707
    @mpk2707 Жыл бұрын

    Any thoughts why I get -->Error: Insufficient data: only 1 sample(s) are available; at least 5 are required.

  • @charliewalsh9247
    @charliewalsh92477 ай бұрын

    My version of PI has the SPCC in the processes, do I still need to install the Gaia files from the PI website? Using the process did fail for me even with the successful ImageSolve.

  • @kurtbauch5491
    @kurtbauch5491 Жыл бұрын

    Great, Thanks! SO, I assume that we no longer need to do background neutralization (used to be my second step after cropping)?

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    No need for it. In fact if you run DBE also on an image there is no need to run background neutralization.

  • @kurtbauch5491

    @kurtbauch5491

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VisibledarkAstro Interesting. Thanks! BTW, I use your DBE method.

  • @magedsyehia
    @magedsyehia Жыл бұрын

    Hello, Thanks for the great content. What if I didn't use a filter? what choice should I make for red, green and blue considering that there are no "no filter" option available?

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    If you are using OSC, there is most likely a uv/ir cut involved. So in SPCC you would want to select Ideal QE Curve and then the Sony uv/ir filter in the RGB for OSC. Cheers.

  • @magedsyehia

    @magedsyehia

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VisibledarkAstro Many thanks to you!

  • @wescomcai5052
    @wescomcai5052 Жыл бұрын

    hOW to download gaia dr3 date?

  • @erniehuang5763
    @erniehuang57637 ай бұрын

    I do not have SpectroPhotoColorCalibration, only have PhotoColorCalibration. How do I get this script? I tried to update my PixInsight but "There is no update in your current installation.".

  • @iwolsiwols
    @iwolsiwols Жыл бұрын

    Hi Shawn great video but when installing in pi i go to process/Gaia then the spanner but where it says data release i only have a Gaia EDR3 option and not the Gaia Dr3/sp option you have,any ideas please

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you download the Gaia dr3 small set from the pixinsight site?

  • @iwolsiwols

    @iwolsiwols

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VisibledarkAstro yes i did

  • @user-qn2gk2vy5v
    @user-qn2gk2vy5v Жыл бұрын

    Hi Shawn. Should I do Background Neutralization before SPCC ?

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    No. Not needed. SPCC does it.

  • @conradsanders8475
    @conradsanders8475 Жыл бұрын

    What do I put in for filters in SPCC if I am using a OSC camera? I generally use a light pollution filter or a UV/IT cut filter. It just noticed that a few others asked the same question.

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    You would want to select Ideal QE Curve and then the Sony uv/ir filter in the RGB for OSC. Hope this helps!

  • @conradsanders8475

    @conradsanders8475

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VisibledarkAstro thanks !

  • @juangonzalezsanz3840
    @juangonzalezsanz3840 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Shawn. This tool looks promising and powerful, but I am not able to run it properly. I did the solving and that is fine, but then when extracting PSF samples it says "no stars found" :( Any clues?

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Juan - I had this happen when I accidently tried applying SPCC to a stretched image. It needs to be applied to a linear (not stretched) image.

  • @montygiavelli8125
    @montygiavelli8125 Жыл бұрын

    This only seems to work on linear images. I tried it on a stretched image and I got an error message: Error: Insufficient data only 0 samples are available: at least 5 are required. Just thought I'd mention this, it gave me fits when I tried it on a stretched image. Monty

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh ya for sure it would. It needs to be done at a linear state.

  • @ijontichy7179
    @ijontichy7179 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Shawn! I did everything as you said in this video, but got *** Error: The image has no valid astrometric solution What can be the problem?

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep! Check my other video about SPCC fails. The answer is there! :)

  • @ijontichy7179

    @ijontichy7179

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VisibledarkAstro I figured it out - ImageSolver is needed between these two steps so that the program knows the celestial coordinates :) Thanks, Shawn! Your videos are a real time saver!

  • @TheOriginalTommo
    @TheOriginalTommo Жыл бұрын

    And only 11 Gb of files to download 😬 🤭 Helpful video though, as always 👍

  • @MrPedalpaddle
    @MrPedalpaddle Жыл бұрын

    Wouldn’t it be simpler to call it “Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious”? 😊

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Hilarious 😂

  • @cryptojihadi265
    @cryptojihadi265 Жыл бұрын

    Using all the same settings as you have, except I use the narrowband with the default settings for my L-Ultimate Filter, I get an error that says image has no valid astrometric solution. Any idea what would cause this? I tried it with an M33 photo and Thor's Helmet. Same error

  • @VisibledarkAstro

    @VisibledarkAstro

    Жыл бұрын

    Your image doesn't have an astrometric solution then. You would need to run ImageSolver on it. See my pinned comment at top. Cheers.

  • @cryptojihadi265

    @cryptojihadi265

    Жыл бұрын

    @@VisibledarkAstro Thanks I found that being the root cause and got the image solver to work, and then when I ran the SPCC it started working but then gave me an error * Extracting PSF signal samples *** Error: No stars found (channel 0) The image is loaded with stars in it, so not sure how it's not finding any.

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