Pixinsight SPCC Color Calibration
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Pixinsight's SPCC color calibration (Spectrophotometric Color Calibration) tool is for accurate color in your images. In this video, I'll show you how to use it.
PLEASE NOTE: If your image does not have an astrometric solution, SPCC won't work. You can go to Scripts/Image Analysis/ImageSolver and search for your object and then click ok to apply an astrometric solution to your image.
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Please note: If your image does not have an astrometric solution, SPCC won't work. You can go to Scripts/Image Analysis/ImageSolver and search for your object and then click ok to apply an astrometric solution to your image.
@bengterlandsson7921
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information it will definitely help.
@Fat-totoro-cat
Жыл бұрын
Shouldnt NINA add an astrometric solution to the FITS file if it's solved by ASTAP?
@paulwilson8367
Жыл бұрын
@@Fat-totoro-cat I'm wondering the same thing. I used NINA instead of my ASIAIR Pro, and Pixinsight keeps saying "No atrometric solution" when I attempt to run this.
@StangspringDK
Жыл бұрын
When using DBE, prior to SPCC, make sure you choose "Replace Target Image" to preserve astrometric information. If you don't, the processed image does not preserve this information.
@standfest_party
6 ай бұрын
"Sorry, but this is not supported in current PixInsight versions." when I use ImageSolver.
Another great how to Shawn san. Thank you very much every time!!
Oh my heck!!! You have saved me hours of frustration and searching. I thank you so much for putting this all together. You are my man!
Hi Shawn, Thank you for the great content. As usual you’ve done a splendid job of showing how it works.
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks James. One thing to note... Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have it if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution.
This video helped me a lot. I am new to Pixinsight, and was not sure how to get SPCC up and running. You saved me a lot of time! Clear Skies!
Extremely helpful as usual. Thanks very much! 👍👍👍
Thank you! At last I got SPCC to work, so I'm a happy little bunny 🙂
Another great video!
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! See my pinned comment. Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have this if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution.
Short, sharp, sweet!! 👍👏👏
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Great video Shawn. Thank You.
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
You are very welcome
Quick and easy guide. Thanks :)
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
One thing I should add... Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have it if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution. See my note at the top of comments about this. Cheers.
As a point of information, storing the Gaia data in the PixInsight folder in C:\Program Files causes it to be deleted if you upgrade PixInsight. You may want to store the Gaia data elsewhere!
Thanks! My brain is atrophying from disuse but my pictures are getting better and better! Can’t wait for you to explain the next PixInsight mystery to me.
@VisibledarkAstro
6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the super thanks!
Hi Shawn thanks for short and sweet video. You need to add that the ImageSolver script needs to be run first otherwise SPCC or PCC will now fail. Additionally it would be nice to know how to set up the filter choices for an OSC
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Don. Yes I'll pin a note in the comments here about that. The image does need an astrometric solution for SPCC to work. Cheers.
Thanks Shawn!
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
Thanks watching Capt! Note... Your image needs to have an astrometric solution before SPCC will work. It may have it if this was checked off in WBPP. But if you have cropped the image at all, then ImageSolver in Pix needs to run on the image to re-apply the astrometric solution.
This is cool but I miss the old photometric calibration where one loads the focal length, pixel size, time, and then search for an object such as M31. The new SPCC doesn't work for me. Has the old PCC been retired? Love your videos. You're one of the few guys that doesn't compress 10 minutes of info into a 20 minute video.
As always, many thanks, Shawn. I'm a little late to the party, but nonetheless . . . mui appreciado, which is "New Mexico Speak" for gracias!😁
thanks man
Viele Dank!!
Thank you Shawn. ⛄️🎄. I know others have asked, but what 'filter' setting should I consider when using OSC with 'no filter' , such as the L-eXtreme, please?
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
It's a good question. For OSC on its own you can select ideal curve and then use a uv/ir filter choice from the drop down. The problem I am seeing is not all the filters are shown. I'm looking into this more. Hopefully I will find an answer.
I’m having a difficult time getting SPCC to work on a narrowband image taken with a OSC camera (ZWO ASI2600MC PRO) using an Optolong l-xtreme filter. Would you be able to give me the appropriate settings or better yet, do a tutorial?
Thanks for this video Shawn. In the filters section, what should I do when using a "One Shot Color" camera (in my case ZWO ASI294MC Pro)? Images were taken without filters. Should I choose the "Sony color sensor R or R-UVIRcut or R-UVcut ?
@RyansAstrophotos
Жыл бұрын
I have the same camera and I chose the Sony sensor R. It seemed to have worked well for mine.
Thanks for the video Shawn. Now I'm going to watch your "Pixinsight SPCC Fails" video. Another user asked and I will echo, what about filter selection for those of us that use OSC cameras?
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
For OSC data I use the Sony uv/ir cut filter options. Majority of cmos cams we use are Sony sensors.
Thanks Shawn. What settings should be used for the filters if using a OSC camera and something like an Optolong L-Pro or IDAS NBZ?
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
The Lpro is in the filter management but does not show in the drop down menus. I am looking into this further. But for OSC on its own you can select ideal curve and then use a uv/ir filter choice from the drop down.
Thank you for the tutorial. Question: when do you apply SPCC; linear or non-linear phase of the workflow?
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
Should be applied to linear image. Cheers.
The file type provided in the download is XPSD, but what the program wants is XSPD. The former is of no use to the program and isn't even seen by the program. What's the solution?
Hey Shawn, love your videos and always really good info. As a request for teaching people and being clear, you often say "Check OFF background ....." when in fact you want people to select that particular option even though you say "Off". To avoid confusion could you just say "Check" or "Turn on by checking". Thank you
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
That's a good point. Thanks. Now if I can catch myself before saying it. Lol.
Hi Shawn Thanks for the video, indeed, all your videos. Any comment on filter selection for a Ha modified Canon 6D ? Cheerd
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
Hi Lynn. So modding makes the dslr transmit like a cooled camera with uv/ir. Use ideal curve and the Canon osc filter. The 5d should be fine.
Shawn, what might you suggest for an OSC with the l-eNhance filter? Would the narrowband clickbox be appropriate?
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
Hi Steve - yes use the narrowband checkbox. Here's a video demonstrating this... kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4mYlqZ7ptOpnLw.html
Is this superior to PCC? Both use known star/galaxy catalogues and take into account filters. I’d assume their performance is very similar.
Any thoughts why I get -->Error: Insufficient data: only 1 sample(s) are available; at least 5 are required.
My version of PI has the SPCC in the processes, do I still need to install the Gaia files from the PI website? Using the process did fail for me even with the successful ImageSolve.
Great, Thanks! SO, I assume that we no longer need to do background neutralization (used to be my second step after cropping)?
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
No need for it. In fact if you run DBE also on an image there is no need to run background neutralization.
@kurtbauch5491
Жыл бұрын
@@VisibledarkAstro Interesting. Thanks! BTW, I use your DBE method.
Hello, Thanks for the great content. What if I didn't use a filter? what choice should I make for red, green and blue considering that there are no "no filter" option available?
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
If you are using OSC, there is most likely a uv/ir cut involved. So in SPCC you would want to select Ideal QE Curve and then the Sony uv/ir filter in the RGB for OSC. Cheers.
@magedsyehia
Жыл бұрын
@@VisibledarkAstro Many thanks to you!
hOW to download gaia dr3 date?
I do not have SpectroPhotoColorCalibration, only have PhotoColorCalibration. How do I get this script? I tried to update my PixInsight but "There is no update in your current installation.".
Hi Shawn great video but when installing in pi i go to process/Gaia then the spanner but where it says data release i only have a Gaia EDR3 option and not the Gaia Dr3/sp option you have,any ideas please
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
Did you download the Gaia dr3 small set from the pixinsight site?
@iwolsiwols
Жыл бұрын
@@VisibledarkAstro yes i did
Hi Shawn. Should I do Background Neutralization before SPCC ?
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
No. Not needed. SPCC does it.
What do I put in for filters in SPCC if I am using a OSC camera? I generally use a light pollution filter or a UV/IT cut filter. It just noticed that a few others asked the same question.
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
You would want to select Ideal QE Curve and then the Sony uv/ir filter in the RGB for OSC. Hope this helps!
@conradsanders8475
Жыл бұрын
@@VisibledarkAstro thanks !
Hi Shawn. This tool looks promising and powerful, but I am not able to run it properly. I did the solving and that is fine, but then when extracting PSF samples it says "no stars found" :( Any clues?
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
Hi Juan - I had this happen when I accidently tried applying SPCC to a stretched image. It needs to be applied to a linear (not stretched) image.
This only seems to work on linear images. I tried it on a stretched image and I got an error message: Error: Insufficient data only 0 samples are available: at least 5 are required. Just thought I'd mention this, it gave me fits when I tried it on a stretched image. Monty
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
Oh ya for sure it would. It needs to be done at a linear state.
Hi Shawn! I did everything as you said in this video, but got *** Error: The image has no valid astrometric solution What can be the problem?
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
Yep! Check my other video about SPCC fails. The answer is there! :)
@ijontichy7179
Жыл бұрын
@@VisibledarkAstro I figured it out - ImageSolver is needed between these two steps so that the program knows the celestial coordinates :) Thanks, Shawn! Your videos are a real time saver!
And only 11 Gb of files to download 😬 🤭 Helpful video though, as always 👍
Wouldn’t it be simpler to call it “Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious”? 😊
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
Hilarious 😂
Using all the same settings as you have, except I use the narrowband with the default settings for my L-Ultimate Filter, I get an error that says image has no valid astrometric solution. Any idea what would cause this? I tried it with an M33 photo and Thor's Helmet. Same error
@VisibledarkAstro
Жыл бұрын
Your image doesn't have an astrometric solution then. You would need to run ImageSolver on it. See my pinned comment at top. Cheers.
@cryptojihadi265
Жыл бұрын
@@VisibledarkAstro Thanks I found that being the root cause and got the image solver to work, and then when I ran the SPCC it started working but then gave me an error * Extracting PSF signal samples *** Error: No stars found (channel 0) The image is loaded with stars in it, so not sure how it's not finding any.