The fact that bootstrap was free and then still put his life on the line really shows how much he loved his son

@thereasonbehindchickensacts

Жыл бұрын

He knew he couldn't go away from the ship anyway and will would die if he won the game

@IHWKR

Жыл бұрын

Really shows how stupid his son is too.

@Da_Publick

Жыл бұрын

True, but he should've paid closer attention. Will wanted to know about the key more than anything.

@2000yearOldYogiAspirant

Жыл бұрын

I think most parents would go that far 😌

@JadStaAna

Жыл бұрын

Yep.

Ah shit, they cut the best line out of the movie. "Ya can't beat the devil twice, son." "Then why are you walking away?"

@davidbuckley2435

Жыл бұрын

My favourite is: "I choose my own fate." "Then it wouldn't be *fate*, would it?"

@shawnthompson2303

9 ай бұрын

5:05 I only bet On what is dearest to a Man’s heart Else there is no way to tell If he is bluffing. Where a Man is willing to risk Or not to risk *That’s the measure if his soul.*

@Myhandleisasecret123

4 ай бұрын

*best*

@oPHILOSORAPTORo

3 ай бұрын

I know, that line is so cold. And Will plays Jones like a fiddle, knowing his pride, and his reputation as a captain are on the line if he doesn't accept a second time. Jones is playing Liar's Dice, Will is playing 4D Chess. That one line show's how clever and dangerous Will Has become since the first film, and the fact that this scene got cut down is a crime against nature, humanity, and the laws of physics.

@DanielSanchez-ul7ve

14 күн бұрын

I wanted to like this comment, but currently it has 666 likes

The foreshadowing of "your fate is to be married to this ship" though....whole scene should have made the movie

@DeAndre_2000

5 ай бұрын

Yup then he says “I choose my own fate” “then it wouldn’t be fate at all”- jones

@nickrykert2572

Ай бұрын

CONGRATS ON 200!!!🎇🎊⚡🏆

"You can't best the Devil twice son," "Then why are you walking away?" God damn that was cold

@TheUndyingCrystal

17 сағат бұрын

It's strangely melancholic. Jones is actually being really uncharacteristically nice there and trying to tell Will not to push his luck. He never realized that winning was never Will's endgame, it was the means to an end

This was so much better than the theatrical cut. Unlike what the directors said, I don't believe this made Jones look in any way incompetent, because this isn't just a game of competence. It's a game of luck. You can tell that he's lost this game before, and his humanity shone through when he simply congratulated Will upon his win, adding more depth to his character. The stakes also become far greater when you understand the game and realize how slim the chances of winning it twice against a man who has essentially nothing to lose in it are. So Will challenging Jones again would've been incredibly tense seeing it for the first time, and Bootstrap risking his newly won freedom to protect his son hits far harder than it did when he was already set for decades of service. Everything about this cut scene made it better. Sometimes Hollywood really has no clue what its doing.

@EmilioJVC

7 ай бұрын

They cut the scene because Jones looked incompetent?, then they made him an incompetent puppet in the third film, lol

@TheStraightestWhitest

7 ай бұрын

@@EmilioJVC Yup. It undermined him anyway.

@Psy_Ro

6 ай бұрын

or most of the audience test didnt understand the rules of a game most have never played or seen, so the directors made the scene shorter;

@ratemal7748

5 ай бұрын

I would say the theatrical cut did suit it better: First, the first game feels completely pointless from a plot standpoint. It adds nothing to the movie. Winning "freedom" for his father accomplishes nothing either: What is he going to do, swim to the nearest port? The only (seemingly) feasible way to really free him is to kill Davy Jones. Second, the way Jones plays the second game does suit him way better. Both games were decided by skill rather than luck. In the first game Jones plays in a very dull way and gets outplayed hard by Will, in the second game he actually plays like the devil he is. (also, getting four-of-a-kind twice in two consecutive games feels a bit too ridiculous)

@ulfberht4431

2 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@ratemal7748 I’m afraid I have to disagree on a lot of your points. Whether it adds to the plot or not doesn’t matter because, even if it doesn’t, the story is already bloated and convoluted anyway. Sometimes a break from the story to add more lore and story can help benefit the story further. Your first point is a bit of an unfair way of seeing it. While it may not add to the story, it at takes a break from the already massive story, plus it adds more to the lore and it helps audiences to give more context to the game of lair’s dice. And your point about how Bootstrap is free but has no way to get off the ship is a completely moot point. If you’re gonna say that the first game is pointless but then bring up something trivial like “how is he gonna get back, swim to shore or something?” then you need to reevaluate your argument a little better because that’s an irrelevant statement. Your second point shows that you really don’t understand (or even care) about character perspective from a thematically point of view. I agree with the first guy’s comment saying that it shows a bit of humanity in Davy Jones and even if it’s “dull” to you, it’s a more realistic way of showing Jones’s character. Both games show a side of Jones that you completely missed. The first game, he was not desperate to win because the stakes of loosing a crew member matters little to Jones. That shows that human lives don’t matter to him, he doesn’t care if they are free or if they serve him. But when the stakes turn on something he holds dear, that is when he’s desperate. That’s why in the first game he played “dull” because even if he lost, it didn’t matter. Loosing to Liar dice with stakes that low to him doesn’t hurt his pride.

Hearing the organ stop playing was menacing 💀

@voljinshin

5 ай бұрын

And I understand

This entire sequence should have been in the final film

@asdf0747

2 жыл бұрын

no, it diminishes Will Turner having to wager his soul, his freedom entirely. Also, beating the devil alone would've had less impact.

@yoursafeplace8476

2 жыл бұрын

directors commentary explains why it wasn't, they had good reason.

@92edoy

Жыл бұрын

@@asdf0747 eh, I don't know. I can see the first match being Will's plan to set Jones up for a rematch in which the stakes are higher (the key), as well as baiting Jones to believe Will is young and arrogant to dare "challenge the devil twice". The directors surely had motives to shorten the scene, but it might have worked. It gives a more real vibe than "I bet everything, all-in, from the very first game", which is more "cartoonish" IMO, if that makes sense.

@daldan66

Жыл бұрын

@@asdf0747 no because bootstrap had his freedom and came back in to save his son, it adds so much weight to this scene that wasnt really there in the theatric cut

@rodrigofloresruiz1985

Жыл бұрын

@@yoursafeplace8476 why was that?

As someone who has played a lot of Liar's Dice, it's really interesting to analyze just how precise the writing of the game is and how it reflects the characters. Turn 1: Bootstrap makes an unassuming opening bid. Turn 2: Jones makes a safe but deceptive bid to gauge his opponent. Turn 3: Will, the one with the most at stake, makes a cautious bid that tells his hand. Turn 4: Bootstrap makes a bold bid in an attempt to force Jones into a corner. Turn 5: Jones reveals his advantage and uses Will's previous bid against him. Turn 6: Knowing he has lost, Will refuses to surrender and makes a hail Mary bid. Turn 7: Bootstrap makes a desperate bid to save his son. Turn 8: Jones confirms what everyone knows and calls Bootstrap a liar.

I just got the joke when he said “the very next time we make port” He’s telling Will he can go ashore the next time He’s able to step on land in the next 10 years 😭

Anyone else notice at 4:57 when Davy Jones asks Will, "How do you know of the key?", his voice changes to it's human sound...?

@turkishjanitor3666

Жыл бұрын

He sounds a bit like Jack

@dumbidiot4548

Жыл бұрын

my theory is because its something connecting him to his heart.

This scene draws so many beautiful principles of life in one shot. How all of life can be ruined in an instant. How father loves son and son loves father. How men guard their emotions. How people are betting on their lives like its a game. How important it is to take risks and knowing when not to. How easy it is to become part of something you never wished to. How love can push you to do crazy things. How deceptive yet honest people can be. Fairness. How cruel life is. What really matters in life is the ones we love.

I love how that guy behind Will is just enjoying the game while casually scratching his pet Eel's chin at 3:15. And how when it goes to take a nap but wakes up at 3:29 and is like "Ah shit! What I miss guys?"

@Carnidoom

Жыл бұрын

i think its a moray but yeah

@ambience273

11 ай бұрын

That's his pp.

@danceslikeratigan4008

11 ай бұрын

​@@CarnidoomA moray is a breed of Eel

@alisonpurgatory85

10 ай бұрын

the details in the animation are tremendous

@Kubizan

7 ай бұрын

Will: 2 threes Jones: 3 threes. Will: 4 threes. Jones: 5 threes. Will: The Moray: Booooriing... Will: 5 Sixes. The Moray: WHAAA?

Gotta love that he is still respectful, bro did the best version of an applause he could to congratulate will

@OfficialArmyman

5 ай бұрын

He was dumping his tobacco out of his pipe, but it works both ways.

@PsYChOtlC_ShArK

5 ай бұрын

@@OfficialArmyman you right. Never actually noticed that

@pedrourbano501

Ай бұрын

​@@OfficialArmymanI think it was basically a dual purpose, yes he was dumping the tobacco, but also, his right hand is a mass of tentacles, if he slapped against his crab claw it would probably sound like throwing a wet rag against a solid surface instead of a clap so he used his pipe.

That sound of "Fuck off" Jones makes at Bootstrap at 4:21 is just so special to me.

@shawnthompson2303

Жыл бұрын

I mean.... he is played as a Glaswegian. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@nikosgreek352

Жыл бұрын

@@shawnthompson2303 ah does that mean from Glasgow?

@Sadistic_Bread

11 ай бұрын

Sounds like Davy Jones was charging a spit if Bootstrap didn't move

@MitchellBPYao

8 күн бұрын

I like James Norrington

"What was it you said about that which is dearest to a mans heart" Shows a drawing of the literal key to Jones heart. They missed out big taking out this extended version

I just want to point out 1 thing: Bootstrap throwing his own dice in AND taking control of the turn order with “your bid captain,” meant that no matter what, Will wouldn’t lose. In this game, you can only call someone a liar on your turn, which means you can only call the player immediately before you a liar. Even though Jones knows Will is lying with his 8 fives, just through deductive reasoning, he can’t call Will a liar cause it’s not Jones’ turn. And we all know Bootstrap would never make Will lose. So before the first bid, Will’s already won.

@jesusortiz4676

3 ай бұрын

Wait, aren't 1s wild in Liar's Dice? Because if so, Will actually won and the moment Jones played his hand, Will would've called him out. This is changed because of Bootstraps outrageous call because he's afraid of his son losing

@lampshade7189

3 ай бұрын

@@jesusortiz4676in directors commentary for the dvd , they claims 1s aren’t wild for this version of the game

@miskarletFGC

2 ай бұрын

@@jesusortiz4676 It's an "optional" rule, some people played it that way, others didn't

@zildjianabuser

Ай бұрын

@@miskarletFGC it was my understanding that you couldn't lower any of the values of the bids. How did Bill's bid of 6 3's be valid?

@theminesweeper1

Ай бұрын

Will could lose if he incorrectly calls Davy Jones a liar.

Fun Fact: The deleted sequence of "Liar's Dice" where Will won the first match against Davy Jones is in the Junior Novelization of the film.

@JDHD99

5 ай бұрын

Junior Novelisation?

@JOSH-lw2jv

5 ай бұрын

@@JDHD99 Yeah, there are no adult novels of the *"Pirates"* films (In fact: the Junior Novel - 1st edition - for *"At World's End"* literally ends with a cliffhanger where Elizabeth orders the crew of the Black Pearl to attack the East India Trading Company before the final show-down. Though there is now a "Special Edition" that adds extra chapters which does includes the ending.)

@JDHD99

5 ай бұрын

@@JOSH-lw2jv Oh wow! I never knew that! That's awesome!

3:57 You know I half expected when bill said ‘I’m free’ Jones would stab Bill and say ‘so you are’

@pugking4518

Жыл бұрын

Davy is a lot of things but he does not break his deals and it is just one man that would have his freedom why waste your time killing just one man? and if he did it would have shown Davy crew that William had got to him which would be a good way to undermine his authority if he did stab Bill

@sandman5522

7 ай бұрын

Lawful Evil

@TheUndyingCrystal

17 сағат бұрын

​@pugking4518 Exactly. And as we see later...the captain of the Dutchman is as much its prisoner as they are its master.

@pyrus0zero

16 сағат бұрын

@@pugking4518 Technically speaking all of his crew are undead. So by ‘being free’ they return to being just dead. He’s technically keeping his deal and dealing a huge emotional blow to Will having his dad die in front of him.

An absolute shame that they cut this short. Any line or frame with Jones is master work and ought to be given the full treatment as such.

Boy, all that radiation from Chernobyl really hit Boris

@analothor

Жыл бұрын

HA

@ankitpairwar

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

The way Jones says "Then it wouldn't be fate, would it?" sounds like as if he's heard people say that a million times.

For some reason this is my favorite scene in the entire movie. And Jack Sparrow had nothing to do with it.

@trustnotasoul8249

Жыл бұрын

I agree it’s definitely in my top 3 for the entire franchise but my personal favourite is in the first movie when jack sparrow tricks barbossa n says that shit about being dishonest n it’s the honest ones u gotta watch out for or some crazy word play like that😂

@markramsey2454

22 күн бұрын

@@trustnotasoul8249 for a trilogy based on a theme park ride, it had some insanely deep dialogue

@DepravedCoTApologist

11 күн бұрын

Because it has the trilogy's next best character: Davy Jones

Let me get this straight. You have to make a guess of how many of whichever side of the dice in total is facing upward. If you guess right you win, if not you lose. But also, if you think your opponent is wrong you can call them a liar. If you’re right, you win. If you’re wrong, you lose. Do I have that right?

@chancecomic1595

2 жыл бұрын

Basically, ye. You call that a certain number of any particular face are on the board. If your call is less than or equal to the number of that face, your call is valid. If it's more, your call is invalid. On your turn, you can either name the previous player as making an invalid call (ie. Naming them a liar), or make a higher bid (Different versions of the game have different methods of doing this, but the movie works like this: By calling a higher number of the previously called face (eg. two 4s to three 4s); By calling a higher number of a different face than the previous bid (eg. three 5s to four 2s); or By calling an equal number of a higher face (eg. five 3s to five 5s)) You only win if you correctly name another player as a liar (Eg. Jones naming Bootstrap a liar for calling "twelve 5s", despite there only being seven 5s on the board, 7:08), or if another player incorrectly names you as a liar (Eg. Will being named a liar for calling "five 6s", which was the correct number on the board, 3:27). Lord Ravenscraft has a really good breakdown of the scene from a gameplay and character perspective, I recommend that kzread.info/dash/bejne/hmhortexlKuWmdo.html

@persinitrix

Жыл бұрын

It's a game subject to many custom rules. Sometimes 1's are wild cards and can function as any other. Theres also an option of calling spot on where if exactly the amount of the most recently declared bet is true every other players lose. Usually I see this game played where everytime a liar is called the losing party loses one of their remaining die. Obviously that too many rules for a movie clip so many of the nuances of the actual game were chopped

@swguygardner

Жыл бұрын

Not quite. You bet that there are at least x many dice facing number y, and the next person has to make a different bet, with a ln x equal to or higher than the previous, and/or a different y. If you think that there are few y dice facing up on the table than the x bet the previous player made, you can challenge them by calling them a liar and reveal all the dice. If the bet was over, they lose. If the bet was equal to or under, the challenger loses.

@pyrus0zero

Жыл бұрын

It’s not called ‘liars dice’ for no reason. The whole point is to put bluff your opponent.

@analothor

Жыл бұрын

@@pyrus0zero how can you bluff if you don't know their dice, that's a guess not a bluff

Watching Dead Man's Chest again make me realize that this scene should have been included. The whole original scene just felt so short now

Small detail, but I love that thunderclap right after Jones says "It can only be a woman." At first I thought it was for sheer dramatic effect. Then, I remembered that Jones's lover is the sea goddess.

They need to remake these films with the deleted scenes added in. Like what lord of the rings did

@bloodysimile4893

Жыл бұрын

It would be extend edition. A remake is reshooting the movie.

I play Liar's dice since 2019 and only now I realize that Bootstrap could have upped the bid to eight sixes. In the worst case, he would have still lost without making it too obvious. It would have even worked if Jones had a pair of sixes in his hand and ones counted as wild.

@Just_a-guy

9 ай бұрын

At that point everyone knew what is in the table (this is why Jones said welcome with Will bet eight 5s). Bootstrap basically said "i had five fives the whole time" to ad salt into it and make sure Jones will call him Liar and not Will (not certain if they can call someone not from their round liar)

@redhood2054

24 күн бұрын

Plus in the commentary they make it clear the rule is aces aren't wilds

All this game is, for those wondering, is a dice version of Bullsh*t...but the stakes and wagers can be higher BASED off of the number of faces (6 being max faces) and how many of those faces are in play (a max of 15, when there are 3 players, a max of 10 when there are 2 players; 5 dice a person). Example: Will wages five 6's, believing intently based off of Jones's previous bet that he had another 6, making that wager of five 6's true. Jones is thinking 'liar/BS' because of the previous bets of the bluffs. Will bets three 3's, and when he throws out 6s from nowhere, it sends Jones into the doubt he has ANY 6s, when in reality he had one 3 the whole time. Jones gets played good by Will Turner, and reveals HE was bluffing all along. So, the game is very much like Bullsh*t (the card game): you throw out your bets face down into the discard, wagering you had up to 4 of a number/face card. If someone guesses BS on your wager, you take your cards back, AND EVERYTHING beneath it. But if your wager was TRUE, they take your cards and everything beneath it. The objective is to lose your whole hand first to win. The reason this game Liar's Dice is so good is because instead of there being ONLY 4 possibilities in play and trying to lose your hand, there can be over DOUBLE the amount in play (based entirely off of the number of players), and your goal is to make bluff/truthful wagers against your opponent and have them guess WRONG (in either scenario.). If they're wrong about you being truthful in your wager, you win. If you're bluffing and they miss the opportunity, but you call them out on THEIR bluff, you win. But, if you bluff and they call you out on it (like Bootstrap-Bill Turner), you lose. Pretty neat game. I wonder if sailors used to play it, and isn't just some made-up game inspired by other dice games JUST for this scene xD Wouldn't surprise me, actually. Such a cool and underrated scene, IMO, of the entire franchise.

@DepravedCoTApologist

11 күн бұрын

It's a real game that's been around for centuries. Some quick Google searches suggest that it was a game sailors would play

They should have kept this in

@samanthapatrick4345

Жыл бұрын

you could probably find it in the extended version

I actually find it really interesting that Clanker is the only one that has a more human appearance compared to the other crew members on the Flying Dutchman.

@aidansalas8389

Жыл бұрын

I think I read somewhere that that means he’s still somewhat new to the crew and hasn’t been part of the ship that long like bootstrap bill

@RDS-3

Күн бұрын

@@aidansalas8389bootstrap was only on the ship for about 10 years, I think the others have been on way longer considering they were wagering that amount

4:16 I still love davey’s random little “shwa!”

The irony here was that in the end, Jones was right.

@anakinskywalker2563

Жыл бұрын

About wills fate or his bid or SEVEN fives?

@king_mansamusa7158

Жыл бұрын

@@anakinskywalker2563 about him being married to the Flying Dutchman.

@ZaddyGohan

Жыл бұрын

@@anakinskywalker2563 7 fives as well, he got lucky when he bluffed the 4 fours because it forced Will’s hand and he told the truth

Will could never lose here though, because of his father. I dont see what Davy's plan was the moment Bill joined the table.

@endertuber8300

Жыл бұрын

Jones simply could not fathom the possibility that Bootstrap would willingly loose and surrender his just found freedom to an eternity of servitude to save Will...

@prestonlogan3808

Жыл бұрын

Hope bill didn't say who went next

@Pedro_Le_Chef

Жыл бұрын

He could doom either of them to serve the ship forever. Pretty sweet deal

I like how the second Will challenged Jones, the entire crew immediately stopped what they were doing and looked at him. 0:43 really goes to show how ballsy such a choice was to make.

The music in the background is just soul stirring and beautiful dub to the origan

Honestly one of the best scenes in cinema history, shame they cut it.

I really wish that the "Spot on!" rule was a part of this match. For those unaware, if a player believes that someone's bet is spot on (and it's his turn), he can say so, and if he's right, everyone else loses a die. If he's wrong, he loses 2 dice. Obviously, since this is an all-in round, Will would have won outright.

@widmo206

Жыл бұрын

If everybody looses, wouldn't that mean he'd condemn Bootstrap to an eternity of service?

@ZaddyGohan

Жыл бұрын

@@widmo206 no, just means jones loses. They aren’t playing the rules where you go down until all the die are gone, they’re only playing one round

I love the fact that Davy Jones calls Will Master Turner

So I can understand why this scene was cut down. Even in the theatrical cut, the pacing of the movie is quite slow and this would've slowed it down even further. But MY GOSH everything in this scene is so good. So much good Davy Jones material and fantastic CGI. Ugh it must've been agonizing for them to cut. I still think it would've been worth leaving in.

@JohnSmith-vk9ds

6 ай бұрын

I can easily think of 6 minutes elsewhere in Dead Man's Chest that I would have cut for length before this scene, so it wasn't about pacing or run time. Allegedly, it was one of the producer's that wanted this cut down because they felt that showing Jones lose a game of dice to Will would make him seem incompetent. Frankly, I think this scene does the opposite, and that if anything in that film makes Jones look incompetent it's Will turner sneaking up on him in his sleep and comically lifting up his beard tentacle with a wooden dip pen that he holds steady in his teeth to grab the key from underneath it.

If Will would have called Jones a liar on his 4 fours bid, he would have won the key

@salvadorgiron5527

Жыл бұрын

He coulnt win otherwise davy woul,d kill him he just needed to know where the key was to steal it later

@hotcauldron7918

Жыл бұрын

You are right, but they would still be on Jones's ship. They might be free but it doesn't mean Jones won't kill them

@wombatyoo1600

Жыл бұрын

That would never happen, with three people in the game it is way to common to see 4 fours, and if you call that out it makes it seem like you have some. This game went exactly as it should

@bmobmo6438

Жыл бұрын

Even if that wasn't the dumbest, riskiest move Will could make, there's exactly nothing stopping Jones from just killing him and taking it back.

@turkishjanitor3666

Жыл бұрын

*Throws a drawing of the key back at Will, proceeds to leave*

In the novelization, when Will issues his challenge, Jones just teleports to that spot and says, "Accepted."

All of Davy jones’ scenes were gold and why I love this movie, this should have made the Final Cut

Thank you for this. Such a great scene. ☮

Where are my Director's Cuts of the Pirates movies? This and the "People aren't cargo" scenes need to be in the movies.

Great edit mate

Bootstrap Bill, you are a liar and you will spend an eternity on this Ship! "

I learned to play this game in Red Dead Redemption so now I understand that scene

I love this scene so much

7:37 when he laughs Just when you think Blackbeard and Salazar were evil

Davy Jones knew about will love, he try to show himself as a genius( speaks like he found that) that makes will nervous, but will smartly overturned his strategy against him.

I love his facial expression when he says that it had to be a woman making Will this desperate. The little cheeky eyebrow wiggle, like "yeah I'm right, aren't I?" He's teasing Will, but at the same time you can tell that he knows exactly what that's like and gets it. Almost a shared moment of bonding over what Jones views as the worst thing in his life: love.

The extended part(s) are admittedly unnecessary, but it does kinda hit a bit harder knowing Will had actually won his father's freedom before that was stripped away almost immediately.

@Mustang-wt1se

Жыл бұрын

It also explains why Jones was so surprised, he didn’t expect Bill to throw away his freedom as soon as he got it

@ulfberht4431

Жыл бұрын

Why is this scene in particular unnecessary? To me it adds more development to Davy Jones’s cunningness and psychopathy, as well as his particular philosophy of how he can both manipulate a person and make them feel inferior because of how much he relishes in their desperation. It’s that level of villainy that you don’t see often. If they left that in, then it would’ve made Davy Jones 10x more badass and cool than he already is. It also adds more on how Liar Dice is actually played, at least this version of it. The theatrical cut only gives a brief understanding of the game, which is a shame because liar dice in the real world is actually very fun. I’d say it was necessary to add drama to Will’s desperation, extended Davy Jones’s personality and gave a bit of rules to a very underrated game.

Bill Nighy was seriously the most amazing actor in these films.

Really well done scene.

How do they cut this scene? Davy Jones reaction to his loss added so much depth to his character.

@joewhitehead3

Ай бұрын

For the sake of the runtime, I’m guessing

Bootstraps move was brilliant. Because you can only accuse someone of living on their turn. He entered the game in such a way that Jones can never accuse his son of living, only bootstrap himself. In essence: the game was rigged from the start.

Will's actually pretty smart here. He understands that although Davy Jones is far from human anymore, he has no reason to suspect he can change the dice at will, and since nobody would DARE challenge Davy Jones himself, he's likely well out of practice/inexperienced, leaving them equally matched.

@MitchellBPYao

8 күн бұрын

"I accept, Mate"

Davy Jones is my favorite villain from the Pirates Of The Caribbean franchise ❤

Why was this cut. It's amazing.

@joewhitehead3

Ай бұрын

For the sake of the runtime I guess

Why didn't bootstrap turn back to normal as soon as he was free is what I wanna know

@jaycee2040

Жыл бұрын

I think their appearance is due to the influence of Davey Jones. Like Calypso stated later he corrupted his original purpose: to guide fallen seaman to the afterlife. Even though Bootstrap was freed, Davey Jones did not drop that "illusion" appearance, if we were to give it a name. *Spoiler below, if you haven't seen all the movies yet* When Will becomes the next captain of the Dutchman, you see all the crew immediately lose their sea creature appearance, which leads me to believe that's one of abilities granted among unknown others. Will obliviously has a different outlook than Jones.

I understand why this was cut, but I would have gladly watched the full 8 minute version of this scene back in 2006. It would have been studied in film schools.

Four fours i love the delivery of the line

I understand why this was cut. If his dad is free than there's no motivation for will to get the key right?

@Mustang-wt1se

Жыл бұрын

He wanted to know where it was and was willing to lose. It also explains why Jones was so surprised, he didn’t expect Bill to throw away his new freedom

@G_Kchrst

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but without the key he could not save Elizabeth from hanging so it still makes sence to go for the key. He goes for everything and the Devil bests him, this is why it makes sense.

@Pedro_Le_Chef

Жыл бұрын

There are plenty more reasons to keep this in instead of the cannibal nonsense (even if it was somewhat fun)

the tragedy of this scene was those last 2 lines...bill really thought will wanted the key,when in reality ,will only wanted to know where it was and later pull a jack sparrow and scape with it anyway but then again,jack said it best "im a dishonest person,you can count on me being dishonest...its an honest person you should be weary of,theyre always down to do something stupid"

They should have put this in the movie. It made way more sense to the story

0:34 I love how you can see the idea forming in Will's head.

I really did not notice how good of a movie this was when i was a kid. Young me was just hyped for pirate battles and Keira Knightley lol

It's strange how my favourite Pirates of the Caribbean scene does not feature Captain Jack Sparrow.

Of all the scenes that were cut. This one should not have been one of them

"I challenge Davy Jones!" **organ music stops**

What did he mean by "Master Turner feel free to go a shore,the very next time we make port? I don't understand what he meant by that?

@Camel-from-Arabia

2 жыл бұрын

Because he won his freedom, it was Bill who loose game.

@HeyItsNate

2 жыл бұрын

because the Flying Dutchman (the ship they're on) only ports every 10 years. So he has to wait 10 years before leaving the ship onto land, unless he finds another boat to escape to which he does in the movie.

@sk55065

2 жыл бұрын

The Dutchman never makes port. He's mocking Will by saying that even though he is technically free still since Bill sacrificed himself, it doesn't matter because Jones holds all the cards and there's no way to escape him.

Heres the thing assuming they just left it after the first game, what would happen to Bootstrap? Would he be alive again or be sent to the afterlife?

What would've made this better ID if Bootstraps body would've became normal, and went back after he lost. But still a good sene.

Is every little wager enforced by magic or a curse? Even if Will had lost the second game, what would have stopped him from just leaving anyway?

@mileskessler2905

Жыл бұрын

It's not magic, just honor. Once you've cast your dice, leaving is cowardice. You see the hand through or no one will interact with you. At least in the movie, irl people forgive(mostly).

@mileskessler2905

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, that was vague. In the movie, the stakes of the game(lives pledged to servitude, the key to a demigod's(Davy Jones) weak spot) make backing out impossible. To do so would mean Jones (who technically as the captain "owns" the crew) would make Will's life hell, or kill him for breaking his word. In real life of course dice is just a game and means nothing.

@JaketheMovieGeek

Жыл бұрын

“Once you’ve sworn an oath to the Dutchman there’s no leaving it”

It bothers me sooo much that this was cut from the final film and yet they spend the first 40 minutes dicking about and in Pelecostos before any story happened.

I understand it doesn't directly forward the story but it builds so much charecter tension and stakes. They really should have kept this scene

I prefer the way the directors did it. Why would Will have a second game? The debt he was "sent to settle" is Sparrow's problem. The whole point of Will staying on the Dutchman was to free his father, and he did that with the first game in this video. Will hadn't declared his 100 years before the mast, so he can go free at this point. Why look for the key? It makes Will look like a badly written character.

@bachpham6862

7 ай бұрын

Will needs Jack Sparrow's compass to free Elizabeth. He wanted the key to barter for it with Jack.

I’m still wondering who’s better, Barbossa or Jones

It's hilarious when the music cuts on and off again

*BOOT-STRAP BILL YOU’RE A LIAR AND YOU WILL SPEND AN ETERNITY ON THIS SHIP!*

0:00-0:45 listening to that organ would make my slow and painful transformation into a hellish sea creature abomination slightly more tolerable

In the canon, Will should’ve added another point to his bet, and that would be that his father must be returned safely to shore within a week. That way, when Will loses the next game he offers Jones, it doesn’t matter because he was going to leave anyway, and his father is secured where he can meet him later in the canon.

0:34 All these years and I never caught the master of the second plan.

Another reason it’s awful that this was cut is the fact Davy Jones was *completely right* about Will’s fate of being married to the Flying Dutchman. Bummer they cut that clever foreshadowing.

Not sure what Will was going to do if his father hadn't stepped in though. I mean, if he'd lost, he'd be bound to the ship like the rest of them, right? Or can the crew still, like, try to escape? Is it just the fear of the Kraken that keeps them in line, or are they like mystically unable to attempt to abscond or mutiny?

Biggest issue here and why I think the scene was cut down is, what was Will's plan if he lost the first game? If his whole plan was to find out where the key was to save them both in the end, when the first bet was pointless and overall pretty stupid on Will's part. I mean 100 years of service is already pretty much a life sentence for him. Jones wouldn't of had to play the second game. Unless, we are to presume two things. 1. Serving on Davy Jone's crew makes you immortal as long as you serve and 2. Will thinks Jones would entertain the bet despite having a lot less to gain compared to what he would lose.

so much better

Imagine how fucking sick it would’ve been to see Davey Jones say “seven fives” and then Will counters with “Spot-on”. The rest of the movie would’ve still involved the race against the Dutchman, except Davy Jones’ emotional investment in the stakes would be in a lot more interesting context (The devil’s been bested twice and now he’s absolutely pissed). I would’ve had the major twist be that Will actually succeeds in stabbing the heart, unbeknownst to the fact that that now makes him the de facto captain of the Flying Dutchman. Then the third movie could be about finding a way to break the curse completely, while Will struggles with his role as captain and his crew begins to grapple with the prospect of losing their immortality permanently. I’m now angry that we don’t live in the timeline where this series was written like that.

@cap-ml7ky

Жыл бұрын

i like this better cause besides the final battle, i didnt really like the 3rd movie.

@jahscnviv

Жыл бұрын

I prefer the original

you cant best the devil twice exchange of lines is a hot line, and having bill be free makes his entering make more sense as its an even bet making the scene even more impactful. But i can see an issue with having davy lose round 1. it takes away some of that invincibility hes built up the whole movie. Hes literally untouchable until we find out that the whole game was a set up. so losing the first game makes the second games secret loss less impactful

Four fourssssss

Isn't turn order supposed to be clockwise? Great scene regardless.

It still doesn't make sense to me what Will was thinking. He just wanted to know where the key was, fine, but if he lost the game, he'd still have been bound to the ship. That knowledge wouldn't have done him any good at all.

Davy jones is smoooth💀

How weird dear old dad in the same boat as son how fickle is fate

4:14 In the behind the scene's where Davy Jones actor does those wierd chin movements always confused me, but HES FLIPPING HIS FUCKING CHIN TENTACLES LIKE HES GOT LONG HAIR LMAOO

You own the sea outer god love is our Bond for ever we fight for love treaty

You would think Davy jones would re hide the key after this

6:18 How can Bootsrap bid six 3s after Will said four 5s? He could say six 5s, or four 6s, but not six 3s, as that's a lower face value. Am I missing something?

@aceca5147

4 ай бұрын

You can either bid that there are the same number of dice but more pips (from 4 5s you can only bid up to 4 6s in that case) , or any face number by increasing the dice total. (You could go from 4 5s to 5 1s or anything above because you've increased the total number of dice)

@jimhalpert8996

3 ай бұрын

@@aceca5147well done Masta Turna

7:32 Master Turner, feel free to go ashore.. the better next time we make port 😂😂😂

@joshualighttime604

8 ай бұрын

🌩🤣🤣😭😭

Wager with the devil, and expect him to keep his word that is the best plan Will had Truly desperate

@shawnthompson2303

Жыл бұрын

*Doesn't mean he has to like losing.*