Piracy on the Amiga with Galahad of Fairlight

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  • @JestersDeadUK
    @JestersDeadUK Жыл бұрын

    a LEGEND amongst mortals, thanks for the memories and savings ;) Sir Galahad of Fairlight

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree :)

  • @ICHIBANDIPPER
    @ICHIBANDIPPER4 жыл бұрын

    Fascinating, this was my childhood & teenage years.

  • @WEBB-TECH
    @WEBB-TECH Жыл бұрын

    Thoroughly enjoyed listening to this. Fairlight and the intros were a large part of my formative years!

  • @DavidB-rx3km
    @DavidB-rx3km2 ай бұрын

    I remember about him being on the Vauxhall forum Migweb, put 2+2 together with the name and the Fairlight logo.

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    2 ай бұрын

    He was there as a private person I guess...

  • @timbob9910
    @timbob99102 жыл бұрын

    Great podcast. Great to finally hear someone be honest about the A1200... Could have and should have been so much more. The one thing that Commodore did get right was the A1200's expansion potential, definitely saved it from being remembered as a failed retro computer relic.

  • @pianowhizz

    @pianowhizz

    3 ай бұрын

    They should have simply ported the Amiga OS onto the x86 architecture in 1993 - then hardware and pricing problems would have been all solved overnight!

  • @OLIV3R_YT
    @OLIV3R_YT10 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the interview! Also the Fairlight logo is still awesome ❤

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    9 ай бұрын

    The Angeldawn logo is massive.

  • @2tuff-crystal
    @2tuff-crystal8 ай бұрын

    2tuff of Crystal the then world's #1 original supplier in the worlds #1 cracking group.

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    8 ай бұрын

    Welcome to the KZread channel of the undisputed multiplatform rulers of the last 3,5 decades :)

  • @2tuff-crystal

    @2tuff-crystal

    8 ай бұрын

    @@FairLight1337 I will give you the multiplatform side of things, but on the Amiga, once Crystal was formed out of Angels, then we dominated. I did supply Fairlight with one or two SNES titles; I forget which, but most went to Sneakers. Fairlight was the only cracking group I considered second to Crystal. Now, by the way, 'Accept No Imitations. We are the World's #1.'

  • @EveryoneWhoUsesThisTV
    @EveryoneWhoUsesThisTV3 ай бұрын

    I remember the Fairlight splash screens on so many of my favourite games! The hardware development surge back then was fuelled by everyone buying the hardware in anticipation of getting the games for free from friends! Amiga and C64 eras were great days..... Still have my Amiga 500 with RAM upgrade. :)

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    3 ай бұрын

    I guess you are now on the topic of what I covered here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/moiBktedj8jHe7g.html

  • @simonscott1121
    @simonscott11219 ай бұрын

    Here's my main thought on piracy: while it *would* reduce sales, somewhat, what people forget is that the vast majority of us back then simply didnt have the money to buy the games. You're not losing a sale when the person was never going to buy it anyway. We would buy a game occasionally when it was really good, or complicated (like you need instructions and keyboard overlays or whatever) but most of the games we copied we were never going to be able to afford anyway. Pretty much, for most kids you got all the money out of them you were ever going to anyway.

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    9 ай бұрын

    I generally think the early cracks lured us to buy computers in the first place. This has made the market for games grow exponentially.

  • @anut9091

    @anut9091

    3 ай бұрын

    I fully agree. Getting new games was nice but nothing could beat that amazing feeling when you had saved enough money to actually buy a game. That wonderful box, a manual, a pamphlet with other games you could dream about, sometimes other cool stuff. A pirated game just felt incomplete in its simple form. I still have a few games today, left from my childhood. Some of the boxes have unfortunately suffered some damage, but the magic is still there.

  • @jamespalmer5960
    @jamespalmer5960 Жыл бұрын

    I remember the blue box and.phreaking days brings back some memories, the Amiga was way ahead of its time especially when comes to multi tasking. Even now where in 2022 demos are still made with major improvements to coding ect. I Started with c64, A600 then brought CDTV to network though ParLink as a cdrom, moved to the A1200 later adding 030 cpu with 8mb Fastram. Untill lastly got hold of a A4000 box 300 quid back then. Now a heavy pc user but would never forget the Amiga OS and qurks. Good to see fairlight, Scoopex, still going and seeing others returning with fresh stuff. Keep it up 👍

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    Жыл бұрын

    We see a lot of people returning. Modern computing at work, and doing the retro stuff on their spare time. Look at modern c64 demos - they are insane.

  • @jamespalmer5960

    @jamespalmer5960

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FairLight1337 you are right grate things can be archived with so little. Brought a ç64 mini the other day but it's a pie lol,will look into getting a maxi see what's that is.

  • @2tuff-crystal

    @2tuff-crystal

    8 ай бұрын

    The Amiga was way over-hyped and when it come to gaming it was no where near as good as the consoles. In fact a PCEngine would wipe the floor with an Amiga. Then if you wanted the real king of computers you would of course look to the SHARP X68000. I had masses of titles for the Amiga and I can only ever remember a couple I played. The Commodore 64 games were better and I played a lot of those.

  • @2tuff-crystal

    @2tuff-crystal

    8 ай бұрын

    I remember when blueboxing went down and no one had a box to use. I sat for once week around 5-7 hours a night trying to hack on box and I succeeded but I never gave it out. The one thing Crystal was pathetic at was giving you a CC so bluebox was essential especially for my area of expertise.

  • @Galahadfairlight

    @Galahadfairlight

    4 ай бұрын

    The Amiga was good enough, comparing it to the X68000 is pretty ridiculous when you consider how much more expensive the latter was, and essentially was the dev kit computer for arcade machines with a lot of the same hardware. The problem the Amiga had is it was cheap to develop for because of floppy disks. Get it wrong on Amiga, chances are you could still break even, get it wrong on consoles and you have unsold cartridges that need major reworking to put something else on. Original software was where Amiga was king. Populous, Cannon Fodder, Battle Chess, Hybris, Battle Squadron, Another World, when it came to original developed software and not some ratty US Gold Tiertex piece of shit, the Amiga compared VERY well to consoles. Mortal Kombat on Amiga made SF2 on Amiga look fucking ridiculous.

  • @technretro7115
    @technretro71153 жыл бұрын

    Galahad is right about law enforcements computer crime departments and their knowledge of the amiga. I worked for a serving computer crime officer that had a private business but also worked in the computer crime department in Liverpool and they were rank amateurs regarding the amiga and most pc stuff at the time which was 1998. Those days computer crime departments were regional and most big forces had their own team of amateur officers pretending to be computer forensics professionals. In reality they were ill equipped against users who started out in the 80's and 90's and had an understanding of OS and bare metal programming. In the early 2000's the computer crime units went national so no local computer investigation departments. They were happy days 😜

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    8 ай бұрын

    Those were the days. But in schools, students educated the teachers so it was a general lack of knowledge in the adult world.

  • @damian3182
    @damian31822 жыл бұрын

    The .nfo was the first secret space I learned about fairlight. Never knew they were from the EU :D

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    2 жыл бұрын

    Although a Swedish born and bred group, members came from all over the world.

  • @Obviousthrowawayaccount
    @ObviousthrowawayaccountАй бұрын

    copyright fears this one man

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    Ай бұрын

    Indeed

  • @pianowhizz
    @pianowhizz3 ай бұрын

    He’s right, it was the 486 DX-2 66 with Super VGA VESA Local Bus, double-speed CD-ROM and SoundBlaster 16 that killed the Amiga. The Amiga 500/2000 had a good run: it reigned supreme for 7 years (1987 - 1994).

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    3 ай бұрын

    Agree...

  • @namakudamono
    @namakudamono2 жыл бұрын

    Great interview guys! Listening to this in 2022, just curious if anything came about from the classic Amiga Galahad references at around 35:00?

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    Жыл бұрын

    Ask him!

  • @namakudamono

    @namakudamono

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FairLight1337 Go on, spill the beans, please! ;)

  • @Galahadfairlight

    @Galahadfairlight

    4 ай бұрын

    No, the game in question was released without my assistance and was a mess as a result.

  • @namakudamono

    @namakudamono

    4 ай бұрын

    ​@@GalahadfairlightI'm don't follow the retro Amiga scene so much these days, so am not sure which 2022 game you are referring to.

  • @Galahadfairlight

    @Galahadfairlight

    4 ай бұрын

    @namakudamono that's because I didn't mention it ;) will leave you with a final hint, Amiga game but not on Amiga

  • @Mind-your-own-beeswax
    @Mind-your-own-beeswax5 ай бұрын

    Erm what is blue boxing? Was in the Amiga scene back in the day and still have an a500 but never heard the term blue boxing.

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    5 ай бұрын

    It's a method of calling for free, cheating the telecon system. Blue Box, Designed and Built by Steve Wozniak and Marketed by Steve Jobs, circa 1972 artsandculture.google.com/asset/blue-box-designed-and-built-by-steve-wozniak-and-marketed-by-steve-jobs-circa-1972-wozniak-steve-1950/OQGxyXq2DFvKaw

  • @daved1818
    @daved18183 жыл бұрын

    Hey Galahad, I remember us using that AR Mk1 to learn to hack code on an all nighter waiting for an early coach to Alton Towers. We cheered so loudly the first time we changed an intro message and successfully repacked it we got in trouble for waking my dad up.

  • @galahadscxscoopex5190

    @galahadscxscoopex5190

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mr.Douglas........my real name is no secret you silly bollocks!!! Those were the days editing in game text with filezap or something similar, we were the coolest "hackers" in Salisbury lol How the fuck did you find this? You still a job shy civil servant or did they close your place down?

  • @daved1818

    @daved1818

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@galahadscxscoopex5190 went down some KZread rabbit hole and came across it. Brought back some memories, have I made up that we once spent a night sleeping on top of a bus shelter in Sheffield waiting for an Amiga gathering the next day? Incidentally , I was going through some old Amiga files a while back and I found a letter from Pazza of LSD to you As for work, they did close the place down, so I moved to Bristol to be workshy there instead. How's things with you?

  • @Galahadfairlight

    @Galahadfairlight

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@daved1818 Yeah that was fun, waiting in a dark park overnight because thats the closest time the train would get us there! Letter from Pazza eh, I don't remember my time in LSD very fondly, kinda went onto bigger and better things lol Where in Bristol are you? Presume you're working at Abbey Wood? As for me, I work for myself breaking and fixing cars, and doing unironic Atari ST ports to Amiga, which is more popular than you might imagine!!! Converting stuff that never got done back in the day. Your sisters still speaking with a weird Australian accent from watching too much Neighbours?

  • @daved1818

    @daved1818

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm up in the Redland area, are you still near Bath? I would say let's have a catch up but not really an option until Covid buggers off (or at least lockdown ends). I've got back into coding on the Spectrum Next for a bit of fun and playing around creating hardware in FPGA. Ha, sisters are both well but, wow Neighbours, how long ago! The accent has faded over the last 30 years. I'll have to check out your conversions. I always thought it would be good to redo some of the travesties that were released on the Amiga as ST ports. I did do a proof of concept of how Double Dragon could have looked (on AGA) but never got close to making it an actual game.

  • @galahadscxscoopex5190

    @galahadscxscoopex5190

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@daved1818 well now the world is more sane, you feel like meeting up, just yell :)

  • @DJ_Dopamine
    @DJ_Dopamine10 ай бұрын

    The reality was that my friends and I only bought an Amiga or an ST because of the ease of getting hold of pirated games. We would spend whatever money we had on buying genuine copies of games, but at £25 to £30 each, that didn't allow us to buy games very often in the 80's and early 90's.

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    10 ай бұрын

    Agree. Most of us are into computers, propelling the IT industry with demand and competence due to pirated games.

  • @simonscott1121
    @simonscott11219 ай бұрын

    He talks like he has nothing to prove, so refreshing.

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    9 ай бұрын

    He doesn't. So competent. So cool.

  • @cerysnomi
    @cerysnomi3 жыл бұрын

    hey Phil you still in touch with the other Phil ( spaced out / fine line ) ?

  • @Galahadfairlight

    @Galahadfairlight

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately not, hasn't revealed himself either.

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    7 ай бұрын

    Who is the other Phil? The only other UK Phil I know is Megasnail.

  • @EnemyAI
    @EnemyAI8 ай бұрын

    I think its important to understand that piracy and copying games is not the same thing. Piracy is profiting or making money. Copying games with no benefit is just copying. It was only later when they plugged this gap with "Circumventing copy Protection" made copying illegal. However, this was still not piracy. I'm not saying the cracking groups didn't commit piracy, but the average gamer didn't.

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    8 ай бұрын

    I generally agree with piracy being making profit from the copying.

  • @dacanesta
    @dacanesta9 ай бұрын

    I think a point of 'did piracy kill the Amiga?' is that piracy probably quadrupled the sales of the Amiga. I wouldn't have spent 400 quid on a machine where I then had to spend 25 quid on every game I wanted. That goes for the machine itself, I know, but the more that own it, the more the developers want to make games for it, so quite the contrary, piracy probably made it last long than it should.

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    9 ай бұрын

    My main argument is basically that. Without the early c64 cracks we wouldn't have seen the explosion of early home computers which lead to later home computers and the general increase in computer literacy that is also the foundation of today's computer industry.

  • @mrpoop8633
    @mrpoop86333 жыл бұрын

    Galahad sounds like Ashens just with his voice lowered a pitch or two 🤔

  • @galahadscxscoopex5190

    @galahadscxscoopex5190

    3 жыл бұрын

    A very manly voice you might say.

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    4 ай бұрын

    Just recorded more talk with him. Works keeping an eye open for .. :)

  • @MrYazbo
    @MrYazbo5 ай бұрын

    People who've only lived in the years with p2p and torrents literally have no idea of how difficult in comparison it would be to get pirated games back in the Amiga days. If you were lamers didn't know proper contacts in the scene then you were left buying floppies off markets or computer shows. As a scener we would turn up at our local computer club in Doncaster and treated like celebrities when we had all the latest cracked stuff from our own mail traders and BBS sites - we never charged for anything though. In fact we used to go mental at market traders selling 'PD disks' which had our Amiga demos on and charging money for them and demanded the disks off them, which in most cases they complied with. When he talks about AT&T cards I do know folks who got prison sentences for distributing those back in the day for money as well - when you consider folks were getting AT&T cards with PIN numbers you can see the issue...

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for your view. I had a bit bäof both seed and leech perspective, being a cracker on the c64 and at the same time being an Amiga game lamer.

  • @MrYazbo

    @MrYazbo

    5 ай бұрын

    @@FairLight1337Great times for sure - as one of the coders/musicians in Magnetic Fields/Digital back in those days I can safely say Cosy's insane amount of mail swapping was definitely part of how well we were known (at least in the UK) even before we got to running our own BBS. The guy used to literally get a massive sack a DAY of jiffy bags of disks from the post office (via a van as the postie couldn't carry them all!!) and he would xcopy and return every single bag the same day. Bonkers nowadays when you think about it...

  • @dnvp3644
    @dnvp36444 жыл бұрын

    GALAHAD WAS ALSO IN EAST GERMANY 1993 Member in INFECT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Galahadfairlight

    @Galahadfairlight

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh no he wasn't!

  • @dnvp3644

    @dnvp3644

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Galahadfairlight YES YOU WARS MEMBER IN INFECT !!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE THE MEMBER GUIDE FROM S. S. !!!!!!!

  • @Galahadfairlight

    @Galahadfairlight

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dnvp3644 Pretty sure I would know what group I was in, and I was NEVER in Infect, but feel free to believe whatever you like, keep you out of trouble.... hopefully!

  • @dnvp3644

    @dnvp3644

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Galahadfairlight I must accept now ! seltsam einer lügt hier.

  • @Mind-your-own-beeswax

    @Mind-your-own-beeswax

    5 ай бұрын

    @@dnvp3644those lists are never accurate. Echo from LSD is listed in being in several groups yet he was only ever in LSD

  • @TheBerendir
    @TheBerendir4 жыл бұрын

    tried a cracked witcher 3 loved it bought it! the fact there was no drm helped them too.

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    3 ай бұрын

    That ties into my episode on the Society effects of cracking...

  • @xenorama7033
    @xenorama70335 жыл бұрын

    Galahad aka Phill, right? I know him ;)

  • @dnvp3644

    @dnvp3644

    4 жыл бұрын

    YES PHIL, RUFTE MICH DOCH TATSÄCHLICH 1993 an.

  • @Galahadfairlight

    @Galahadfairlight

    3 жыл бұрын

    And you may be whom?

  • @nebularain3338

    @nebularain3338

    3 жыл бұрын

    Probably not the best idea to give someone's personal info out on a KZread comment's section.

  • @galahadscxscoopex5190

    @galahadscxscoopex5190

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nebularain3338 hints work though, treat it as a game show with no prizes!!

  • @computerb0y27
    @computerb0y278 ай бұрын

    Anyone remember SoftAGA? Excellent troll

  • @FairLight1337

    @FairLight1337

    8 ай бұрын

    No, who was that?

  • @computerb0y27

    @computerb0y27

    8 ай бұрын

    it was a "tool" with a complicated UI for OCS/ECS that claimed to enable AGA graphics if you got all the settings right but it did nothing. cannot recall who created it @@FairLight1337

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