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@SRKH107

9 ай бұрын

I love your vids

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

@@SRKH107 thanks so much for that, really appreciate the support! ❤️

Great review, great presentation, subscribed!

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Thanks so much Marcus, really appreciate that! ❤️

Can you run AC in 120hz ? I’m on index and I’m pushing 3880 per eye upscale all maxed out on 4090 at 120hz smooth

Please tell me do u need them light sensors trackers around the room??? Or is it all the the headset

@VRManCave

7 ай бұрын

No the headset is self tracked like a Quest 2 or Quest 3. They do have an option for a lighthouse faceplate that tracks through those light sensors, but out of the box it tracks itself.

since the panel uses Mini-LED and mini-LED is prone to blooming... how bad can it get with blooming?

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

Mini-LED blooming is really bad on fresnel lenses, but with the aspheric ones used in this it's not at all. It's still the clearest, best looking VR headset I own, and I have everything from Varjo Aero to Quest Pro, so you could say I have a bit of experience with VR 😁

I have an OG Vive, Index, and Vive Pro 2, and never really had any interest in Pimax products due to their reputation (though I can't say HTC's was much better); but I had just built a 4090 system with a 13th gen processor and decided to order a Crystal just to see what the hype was about--and with full plans to evaluate it for a couple weeks and probably return it. It wouldn't be the first time. Anyway, you would have a hard time prying this thing out of my hands now. Personally, I had no problems with the software. That was my first surprise. I had lots of trouble with the Vive Console software when I got my Vive Pro 2 (which they eventually worked the bugs out of), but the Crystal connected the first time and seems to "just work". The reviewer is absolutely correct in saying that you need to kind of learn your way around this headset. It's a PCVR HMD all the way, and you have to work a bit to find its best settings and, especially for DFR, you'll need to work with OpenXR and Quad Views and learn what works and what doesn't. But once you do, the reward is quite remarkable. Just six months ago it would have been a complete dream for me to play DCS at 90fps and have the entire cockpit absolutely crystal clear--even without having to turn my head. And MSFS looks jaw-dropping good and can be locked pretty tightly to 45fps, which is enough to make framerate matters no longer a distraction in that sim for me. But beyond sims, everything else has become stunning. I actually think my new killer app for this thing though is Visual Pinball (VPX) as this thing has made me ditch my thoughts of building a flatscreen virtual pinball machine to building a PinSim instead. Basically, this headset is the very first one I've used since I first got into the hobby in 2017 to offer the view that I always thought of in my imaginings of what VR might be like in the future--one with no SDE, monitor-like clarity, rich and uncompromised color, realistic contrast, healthy field of view, large sweetspot, and decent comfort. In terms of comfort, I find it very comfortable due to its very good balance--and yes, the battery actually helps here. No extra counterweights needed. Is it heavy? Well, its heavier than the Varjo Aero by about 300 grams, which is about the weight of a decent pair of headphones (like my Sony MDR-V6s), which you kinda need anyway since the Aero doesn't have built-in audio; so about the same total weight if that means anything. Yes, and its a bit front heavy. So the reviewer is right that if you shake your head a lot, you'll notice it. So, if your main use for VR is relatively low-poly shooters, this headset would lose a lot of its value; but if you do sims and/or just want the best possible visuals that VR offers these days, that's what the Crystal offers. So yeah, I wasn't expecting this sort of experience from a Pimax, but have to say that I'm impressed so far.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for watching and leaving your two cents. Your experience very closely resembles mine. I had very low expectations and seeing and hearing what Pimax headsets were like in the past, I was genuinely thinking it's gonna be a nightmare, but it genuinely wasn't. Yes the software is not perfect, but it's gotten so much better that I'd put it on par with many other options on the market, I mean I can't even count the times I've had issues with Oculus Link and Meta is 1000 times bigger than Pimax. VR is not easy to get right, but with the Crystal, Pimax is definitely on the right way and like you, I have a hard time using any other headset after experiencing this level of clarity.

@IvoryOasis

8 ай бұрын

Pimax is premium stuff. Their reputation is just trying to do a lot as a small company, and being something you had to troubleshoot and fiddle with. So advanced user stuff. But I have the 8kx, and it's amazingggggg. I'm really excited about the 12k they are working on, and the crystal looks awesome too.

Soooo, if I have in 2023 a 10900K (i need to change it to a 14900K (never an AMD)), and m.2-s and RTX4090 and Valve Index. Will I risk to ditch the index for other "newer" VR?

@VRManCave

6 ай бұрын

IMO paying 1K for an Index in 2023 and beyond is bonkers. Outdated lenses, screens and resolution with massive glare issues. Don’t get me wrong, it’s still a great headset, but Valve keeping the same price they launched it at years later is just plain greedy and there are way better options at that price point.

@zsolteditor

6 ай бұрын

@@VRManCaveok, got it thx :)

So if the Pimax Crystal's claimed FOV is 125 horizontal and 140 diagonal does it really only have a vertical FOV of 63 degrees? Sounds a bit disappointing for such a large headset, but maybe you'd get used to it.

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

I'm not sure how I can measure that but it's definitely wider than any of my other headsets(I have over 10).

I have a rtx 3080 8 GB Vram, do you think do I need DFR ?

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

Well, I have a 4090 and can't turn everything to max settings without DFR, so I'd say yes you will probably need to use it too. It also depends on what you're playing, as things like HL:Alyx are very well optimized and you'll likely be able to run it on Ultra without DFR, but in other games it's not as easy to do.

Hiya! (giga long question ahead) Great video, really appreciate the range of games. Since you reviewed and used many headsets and for the same as I would I'd like you something. I want a headset for mostly simrace and mostly ACC. Got a good pc, but I rather go high as possible settings with no motion or simple reprojection. Would this pimax be better than a quest pro? I have a g2, but just like q2 and I think even this, older gen lenses waste resolution like crazy. Pixel per degree and rendered fov is what I've been looking into, but still unsure. If I get a quest pro, would I be able to max out games and be better off then this ? (with dfovr enabled) At peak the crystal looks better, but like the performance cost is gigantic (seemingly). Have you compared the two headsets while tinkering with settings? I get a feeling, that this might not, in reality, look better in like ACC or AC then a quest pro, since no pc can run those games without reprojection on max ? Or even if you get some scenarios, the input lagg due to every reprojection ever or lower grapics settings would render it useless as comparison. I am not sure if you understand me babbling, but I want to know how they compare in a competitive, yet high fidelity setup. I want a headset with DFOVR, so sadly q3 won't be an option, but maybe a used quest pro or maybe somehow this or an aero are my options. I want a headset that I can max my simracing games out on and can compete in multiplayer without huge input laggs (reprojection introduces a lot due to brake markers not being where I see them etc), so if you have lower resolution on a qpro, but with the performace headroom I can get a higher pixel density, wouldn't that look kinda the same or be a better option? Thanks for reading this, not sure if it is possible to answer, but any advice is appreciated!

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Hey there! Thanks so much for watching and I'm happy to help as best I can. In terms of visual quality, yes the Pimax is way ahead of the Quest Pro. The Pro looks great but for PCVR it has to deal with the compression/decompression process, which makes the quality worse while also negatively affecting performance. So if you're mostly looking for a headset for PCVR, I'd recommend looking for a dedicated PCVR one, even if it's not Pimax, just get a G2, or even a DPVR, as they will give you better quality and performance. That's the biggest downside of new Meta headsets that are also stand-alone, the compression artifacts. That being said, the Quest Pro is still a fantastic headset and it looks great, so you won't be disappointed unless you test it side by side with a Pimax or Varjo headset. Input lag or reprojection should not be an issue if your PC is good enough to handle VR. Regarding maxxing out settings, it will strictly depend on your PC, and aside from flight sims, racing sims are the most performance hungry VR games that exist. My old PC has an RTX 3070 and 5800x CPU and in most racing Sims I can't really go above Medium settings with any Oculus headset. Reprojection only occurs if your PC can't maintain the target FPS, so even if you have it on, it will only kick in once your framerate dips, and is actually not that bad in racing games, but yes, if you can stay away from it, it's recommended. Hope that helps!

@Mordrede100

9 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave Thanks for the reply! Well, I do have a G2, but since g2 only has motion reprojection, it isn't that great. (it also does not have eye tracking, so no dfovr) I have a 13th gen i7, ddr5 6000mhz ram and a 4090, but I still can't max out the sim games I play on it. Obviously many other games do run great, but not the multiplayer sim games. How bad is the compression noise/quality degradation on a quest pro with link cable? I've heard it isn't really noticable anymore, but from what you wrote it feels like maybe it is? From some videos, they say a quest pro is a huge improvement compared to a G2 visually, but now I am not so sure. What I specifically want is like stable 90 hz with dfovr and maybe ultra settings in ACC with maybe a crisp pixel density so visually, it wouldn't be that ungly compared to 2d racing. Would that be achievable or am I just too off due to maybe misleading videos/forum posts?

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

@@Mordrede100 Well now that you've mentioned you have a 4090, I'd say you won't notice any compression artifacts on the Quest Pro. On my current system I can push the Quest Pro Link cable to 6-700mbps bitrate and the games to nearly max settings and it looks fantastic. I have not tried the G2 personally so I don't know how it compares, but I'd suggest maybe buying a Quest Pro from somewhere that offers a return policy, so that if you don't link it, you can just get a refund for it.

@ThePape78

9 ай бұрын

@@Mordrede100i had the g2 and 8 KX before I got the quest pro and the pro is way better for me with the right settings in the debug tool. I use 960 Mbit . Link sharpening on.. i use it only for Simracing.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

@@ThePape78 yeah the Pro is a Beast for simracing. I even use it without the face gasket cause it reduces heat in the headset and I like the open design.

Great Video! The Crystal is awesome - now I have my eyes on the 12k.. which, i'm hoping, will be like a Crystal had a baby with an 8kx!

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Yeah the 12K should be incredible. And I'm hoping they've sorted out most of the software stuff with the Crystal so it'll be smooth sailing. Thanks for watching and for the comment man!

@reptilexcq2

9 ай бұрын

Hopefully, they can reduce the weight somehow instead of adding additional bricks on it lol.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

@@reptilexcq2 yeah that’s a big one. I really wish they made a Crystal without the standalone mode. The headstrap is great and distributes the weight very well for how big it is, but I will likely never use the standalone so it just adds useless weight.

I wish they would release a just Native PC VR version of this headset without the stand alone stuff. or Batteries being needed. It would cost & weigh less.

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

Me too… hopefully that’s what the Pimax 12K will be. Not sure about the price, but hopefully it’s lighter.

@9ALiTY

8 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave I don't really need the insane resolution of the Pimax 12k you'd probably need a super computer probably not able to run that at full rez at 90hz with 2 generations of Graphics Cards later like an RTX 6090ti, but I hope they keep eye tracking & auto ipd adjustment of the Pimax Cristal. Because there older headsets with only Software IPD Ajusting made me have bad eyestrain & pain + temporary lazy eye.

Apple: ''hold my beer Pimax''

out of my price range but looks like an insane and reasonable luxury VR headset

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Haha yeah. I'm just excited for when this kinda tech trickles down to more affordable stuff.

@xjrthirteen

9 ай бұрын

The only thing that's 'luxury' about the Crystal is the price tag. I sent mine back because I'll be damned if I was paying £1500 for an overweight, poorly balanced and even more poorly fitting piece of creaky cheap plastic. This review is clearly so glowing because of the affiliate link attached. Total garbage.

@laartwork

5 ай бұрын

Love my Crystal. I think they could eliminate the stand alone. I play for hours playing Skyrim and never had any comfort issues

Varjo Aero just slashed its price to 990$ and the software is best in class.....With the new Aero price considered, what would be your recommendation between the two sets? Excellent videos, keep up the great work!

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Yes I own the Varjo as well and the price reduction is fantastic, although be aware it’s 990 before tax and you need base stations and controllers, so overall even with the new price, it comes out at about the same price as the Crystal. I’m still working on comparing the two, but first impressions are that the Pimax has a bit better clarity and considerably bigger FoV than the Aero, but both are great headsets and the clarity is above anything else on the market for both as well.

@xjrthirteen

9 ай бұрын

Varjo Aero over the Crystal any day of the week. Military grade components and build quality over cheap, thin, creaky plastics, poor build quality, awful quality control and an after sales team that tries to force you over the seven day return policy, then keeps your money for almost one month (and several complaints) before refunding you. That's my personal experience, and I know of many more with similar stories.

@techfun123

9 ай бұрын

Aero has no microphone, speakers or internal tracking among a lot of other missing features. The pimax lenses are interchangible if you scratch them or want to upgrade. Even at 50% its original price the aero needs base stations, controllers, headphones, microphone etc. and its still missing things.

@sean.d7171

8 ай бұрын

@@techfun123 And the lenses are better pimax has glass and bigger lens i had a aero its not as good. also 120hz is way better

@MCP2002

7 ай бұрын

​​​@@techfun123For people who use VR for flight sims you don't need controllers and having only one v2.0 base station is fine. :)

Would I notice a difference going from an i7 9700k to a i9 9900k?

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

I would look at your GPU before your CPU, unless you feel your current CPU is bottlenecking your GPU, in which case yes you’d notice a difference. You can use the performance graph in SteamVR to figure out where potential bottlenecks might be coming from.

I have the quest 2 using oculus link and I have half life alyx on ultra settings at 3840x2160. Smooth as butter on my 3080 graphics card!

@VRManCave

7 ай бұрын

Yeah the Quest 2 is still great! and for the price it’s an absolute bargain!

I want this or a big screen beyond preferably due to the size

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

I love the Crystal but yeah, I wanna see what the beyond is like too.

the better neck muscles has sold me!

@VRManCave

6 ай бұрын

Hahahha 😄

Pimax 8kk or 12k better than Meta quest 3 ?

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

Well the 12K is not out yet, and in terms of visuals, the Crystal is better than the Quest 3, but also larger and 3 times the price 😄

The best VR headset so far for training your neck to super rambo.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Hahaha indeed that’s why I’d mostly recommend it for more static games like sims, but to each their own if you wanna bulk up your neck, feel free to use it for 2 hours a day of Blade and Sorcery 😄

Im not really into VR, But i was thinking the 4090 could have truble pushing 2880x2880 (two times) at up to 160Hz as it only have displayports 1.4, If thats the case you can upgrade to the 7900xtx that has DP 2.1 and therefor supports up to 8k @ 165Hz

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

I can't really comment on that right now, as 144 and 160hz are currently in testing by Pimax, but it runs full res at 120hz with absolutely no issues. I'm hoping I won't have to bump down the resolution to go to the higher refresh rates when they're available, but I guess I'll have to wait and see. Thanks so much for watching and leaving a comment, appreciate the support!

@legendarymark112

9 ай бұрын

Does the headset even have DP2.1?

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

@@legendarymark112 I am not sure. The official spec sheet does not mention the DP version. Is there any way to figure it out?

@legendarymark112

9 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave Looks like the user guide says dp1.4. (Google)

@sean.d7171

8 ай бұрын

Crystal is dp1.4 with dsc 8k 60hz think it needs DP2.1 to do full res 160hz the crystal screens can do 160hz+ its got to be the dp cable. wondering why they would say it could do 160hz knowing this maybe the 160hz will be at a lower res mode like 2400x2400 that would still look good i would use it.

PICO 5 PRO MAX is worth waiting for. That with a 5090 should be a nice combination 😊

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

Looking forward to it but at this point it’s just a rumour 😄

yo bro can I snatch the faulty primax from you?

@VRManCave

6 ай бұрын

Haha sorry but it makes for a great decorative piece on my VR shelves 🤣

@jlagaviota

6 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave aw shucks... cant blame me for trying tho xddd

2 things you need.. studio form headstrap to counter weight and balance headset the other 16mm VR Cover vive pro face cushion

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

I will have to try those, thanks so much for the suggestions! Had no idea the Vive Pro face cushion fits this.

@Simmymind360

9 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave absolutely it's a really nice fit..I don't like the default face cushion

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

@@Simmymind360 I will definitely give that a try. The extended face cushion is pretty comfy for my face but it can always be better. Thanks!

For nearly $2000, this thing needs to be perfect. It can’t be filled with bugs and require tinkering to get it to work, especially when their biggest competitor is 1/4 of the cost

@VRManCave

6 ай бұрын

I’ve been using it almost daily and have not been having any issues whatsoever with it. Yes the software wasn’t perfect at first, but neither was the one on Quest or Pico. The only device with perfect software from the start was Varjo, but while I love my Aero, it doesn’t even come close to the clarity and field of view of the Crystal.

i will edit this comment if iam wrong.. but: let me guess, its a 1000 dollar + headset without controllers and tracking stations? edit: ok so it has controller, yet its 1900€, thats.. hard when you compared the index and how good it was for its time and how much they wanted for a set with tracking stations

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

It has controllers, doesn’t need base stations, and it’s around 1400-1500 depending on the options.

How much clearer is it compared to the quest 3 ?

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

I'd say quite a lot clearer, but then again it's also 3 times the price and 3 times the weight almost, so.. yeah.. depends on what your priority is 😁

I'm turned off that they cheeped out and used the 8k housing instead of making it as small as possible.

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

I don’t think it’s related to cheaping off, but it’s also a standalone device so it has to house those components too.

@AbideinChristFully

8 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave So do you think if a 1995 Chevy S10 was in a 3500 body, that it makes since, because you need to fit all the parts in there?

When the price comes down by a reasonable $1k then I'll consider getting it...

Have you tried the Aero?

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

Yes I have, I actually need to start working on a proper review for it and a comparison to the Crystal as I own both and both are awesome headsets!

@Because_Reasons

8 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave I used to have an Aero but sent it back, do you find you play more with the Crystal? I am a big simmer, but also enjoy other titles.

I think that cool vr you present is so expensive

@VRManCave

6 ай бұрын

For sure it is crazy expensive but same as with any cutting edge technology, it will go down in price with time.

i agree with the whole most powerful on the market, but honestly the price is a bit of a downside. 1700 is kinda steep, not only that but to get the best performance out of it, you need a pretty beefy pc. tho it would be amazing for watching movies on.

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

I agree, the price is more than steep. At around 1000 they would sell sooo many more headsets, and honestrly the inclusion of a stand-alone mode is beyond me, and it increases cost for both them and the consumer, without much benefit as I doubt many people will ever use it for anything other than high-end PCVR.

@demonpride1975

8 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave i won't bash the unit, because i have heard the fov is just out of this world, which i think a lot of vr headsets could work towards better fov. but i also heard that it can be a pain in the rear to really utilize and get the settings right.

ahhh yes i just need 3000 dollars now

@VRManCave

6 ай бұрын

Hahaha yeah, and add the price of a seriously powerful gaming PC 😄

They need to GTA 6 VR edition problem solved, they will probably start selling them.

Well I don't think it is fair to compare $500 quest 3 to $1600 Pimax

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

I 100% agree, and no one's comparing them. In fact, when I made the Pimax review I didn't even have the Quest 3 yet :)

@_nom_

8 ай бұрын

I love the Quest 3

@SJkopa

8 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave Most reviewers of the Quest 3 found the image quality and FOV to be superior to the Pimax Crystal. Quest 3 is so crazy!!!

@AlejandroLopez-wy2st

7 ай бұрын

​@@SJkopaPuaghaha Hahahaha 😂😂😂 that was a good one. NO, the image clarity of the Quest 3 is not comparable to Pimax Crystal, not even comparable to Varjo Aero which is the one I tried. Yes, the Quest 3 is great, but Varjo is in another level due to Displayport, higher resolution and better colours/brightness, period. That is about visuals, then of course the pancake lenses and fov of Quest 3 are great, and you may prefer it as a whole, but if we just talk about visuals, noooo, it's not the same man.

Consoles and monitors are in trouble right now

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

Maybe not just yet but in a few years that might be a possibility 😄

I thought the bigscreen was better

@VRManCave

6 ай бұрын

Haven’t personally tried it, but it has pretty low FOV, harsh blooming and only works at 90hz at way lower resolution. This info is from others who have tested it, but it seems consistent across reviews.

@miniramptricks1986

6 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave cheers for the info

I can wait until they figure out the BUGS .

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Most of them seem to be ironed out, just the small hickup here and there but there are constant updates to both headset firmware and PC software.

Have to go to the gym and work on my neck muscles first to tolerate this massive piece of plastic and build a $4,000 PC to run this thing. No thanks, rather go with the Quest 3, besides most VR games except Half Life Alyx are cartoony short tech demos. I guess the Pimax will be mostly for car and flight sim enthusiasts.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Yes the most perfect fit are car and flight sim fans. Regarding the PC, you’d need to build a similar spec for high quality PCVR on any headset. I will get the Quest 3 soon and compare them but I doubt the clarity will be that much different from Quest Pro, which I own. For PCVR the biggest downside of Quest devices is the compression, but with a good enough computer you can get rid of most of it by raising the bitrate. Thanks for watching and leaving your thoughts!

@beanos2287

9 ай бұрын

​@VRManCave fun fact if you didn't know. You can raise the bitrate on Quest headsets as high as 960mbps by typing a number between "501" and "960" in Notepad and then copying and pasting that number into the Oculus Debug Tool's section for Link Bitrate. Maybe you should give that a try and see if it improves the compression you're experiencing. I tried it with 800mbps on the Quest 2 yesterday and it didn't seem to have much more of an impact on latency as having 500mbps.

@richwhilecooper

9 ай бұрын

Only $4000?

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

@@beanos2287 Yes I'm aware, but even by doing that it's not even close to this level of clarity, but it's also 1/5th of the price, so makes sense 😁😁

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

@@richwhilecooper The PC? yeah, around that probably to get the absolute most out of this beast of a headset 😁

Quest 3 all the way

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

I love my Quest 3, and still use both in parallel, but especially for Sim Racing, the Crystal is just next level.

@Naranek

8 ай бұрын

@@VRManCavecan you please male a comparison of both unites? I think the Quest 3, especially with the Game Optimizer Software is absolutely breathtaking as standalone. And with some tweaks it‘s an incredible PCVR headset… buuuut I‘m still very interested 😊

@Hboogie182

6 ай бұрын

Hate to burst your bubble but the Quest 3 is obsolete.

@JC-ts5ii

6 ай бұрын

@@Hboogie182if you got 4-5k to blow sure, but far from obsolete especially with pcvr functionality and standalone at 500 bucks

@ario9907

6 ай бұрын

Quest 3 was a very underwhelming experience, returned it. Literally the same as the quest 2 just pass through with color and slightly better pass through resolution

I'd prefer the beyond.

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

From a size and form factor perspective, me too! But I haven’t tested it personally and from other reviews it seems like the FoV won’t be that great, there’s godrays and chromatic aberration, so while I would definitely use the Beyond heavily due to how comfortable it probably is, the Crystal will still have it’s usecases for me as well.

Nice but until.they can make it comfortable i am sticking with quest 3 baby.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Well, I have both and I love both, for very different reasons. The Quest 3 is small and light, decent FOV and great for stand-alone or even more active PC VR games, but for sim racing and flight sims, I’m sticking to the Crystal and the Varjo Aero. The clarity is just way better, no compression, and for the Crystal in particular the FoV is just awesome. But honestly all that matters is for you to be happy and immersed, and if the Quest 3 brings you that, stick with it and enjoy your new purchase!

Lots of face-mites on that Crystal Headset - recommend Salicylic Acid in your diet .

@VRManCave

7 ай бұрын

I think it might just be dust 🤣

The headset is just to big. For me I need the Quest 3 or smaller with inside out tracking, Pancake lens and wireless PCVR. Anything less than that is not worth my time. Extra quality in image is no longer my driving force. The Q3 is good enough in this area.

The price, size and weight are no go

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

Totally understandable 😁 Thanks for watching and leaving a comment, appreciate it!

@supersasquatch

8 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave but I get that for those who seek the ultimate screen quality, this is it by large margin! Cheers for the great videos mate

I know PSVR2 is expensive but I still believe it’s worth every penny and the best headset out there right now

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

PSVR2 is very very good, I absolutely love mine and for around 1K for both the headset and console it’s fantastic value for the quality you get. That being said it’s not perfect and it does not compare to a high end headset and PC combo, but it’s also 5-6 times cheaper so it makes sense 😄

@westonsgenericchannel

9 ай бұрын

Zero games. Zero bitches

@ToGrimmToWin

8 ай бұрын

Well true. Also completely not true due to the fact that it gets crippled due to the PS5

@tomcat3900

7 ай бұрын

If it weren't for the lenses, it think it would be the best headset. Because of the small sweet spot with the fresnel lenses, it kind of nullifies the use of dynamic foveated rendering. What good is eye tracking if you have to look in the center of the lenses to get a clear picture?

That is some rig, £450 CPU, £1600 GPU and £1600 VR headset.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Haha yeah it is, I’ve actually made a dedicated video on it, testing various VR games and it’s an absolute monster for PCVR. You can check it out here if interested: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oKqTm5JpkqfdiaQ.html

IT’s recommended for users who have the patients to resolve all the bugs and issues with Pimax headsets.

@crimsom2977

9 ай бұрын

its recommended for users who hate them selves.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

It’s gotten a lot better with the latest updates, genuinely not that many bugs at all now.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

You’re exagerrating, it’s really not as bad as Pimax headsets historically seem to have been. I have not tried others but seen many reviews and I can promise this one is way better than what I’ve heard of older headsets. Companies learn, grow and fix things, ya know?

Thx for hearting my comment❤

@SRKH107

9 ай бұрын

:)

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Haha you are very welcome, thanks so much for watching! ❤️

woop

@VRManCave

6 ай бұрын

Heyooo 😄

Just an FYI: With a stupid amount of research (about how to increase bitrate through oculus debug tool) and a good quality stand alone wifi 6 router (Asus RT-86U PRO). You can achieve better than wired graphics on Quest 3. I've done it (RTX-3070 ti) (btw I'm willing to help. Just ask)

@VRManCave

7 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t say better than wired, but the same yes, as you can increase the bitrate for both Link and Airlink. I’ve recently made a video about exactly this topic: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gqdqupWSqa2-fLg.html 😄

Its a 4k headset Wait for 8k headset and content with Occulus.

For that price? I'll stick to my quest 2

@VRManCave

6 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s very expensive, not trying to deny that. But the difference between Quest 2 and this is bonkers. Hopefully this kind of tech drops in price with time and trickles down to less expensive headsets.

@saren6538

Ай бұрын

Yeah you do that

I’ll stick with the Quest.

Every video I watched in KZread says that the Quest 3 has a really good sharp screen. But my quest 3 seems to have a slight blurry video and screens no matter what apps I’m using. Even in the Home Screen, the background is blurry and not sharp.

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

The Quest 3 does have a really sharp screen. Not sure what might be wrong with yours, or if maybe your expectations were too high. You have to understand that VR tech is not yet at a stage where a screen that is 1cm from your eyes can be as sharp as looking at a 4K monitor or TV, but as far as VR headsets go, the Quest 3 is the sharpest in it's price point. Not quite as sharp as the Pimax I'm reviewing in this video, but it's 1/3 of the price, so that makes sense.

@enigmo20

8 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave thanks for the reply. I’m not expecting the quest 3 to blow me out of the water with resolution. I’ve had the original Oculus & I’ve played around with the quest 2. So I’m not expecting 4k in each eye. But my quest 3 looks like the quest 2 but with less screen door effect. Maybe I have a bad unit?

@AvgPlayaHata

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@enigmo20this is a pretty old thread now but one important thing to note regarding sharpness on the quest 3 is wether or not you’re playing on the standalone quest or pcvr. On the standalone quest you don’t actually play games on the native resolution of the headset and it will look blurry. I play pcvr with a quest 3 and I’ve gone in and manually changed the render and display resolutions to their highest native settings and let me say it looks absolutely phenomenal. Very sharp and very clean especially when using h.265 encoding.

Well out of my price-range.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Probably the case for many, but it just shows where VR is headed, and I'm sure the tech will come down in price. Honestly would have preferred them to leave out the stand-alone and make it around the $1K mark.

My pc would shit itself

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

With Dynamic Foveated Rendering on you can actually use it on lower specs. My old PC has a 3070 and I was able to use it on that and get great framerate. What are your PC specs?

I would get an RTX4090 card before I bought one of these. But, I am going to wait until the next series of cards come out before I upgrade my RTX 3090. I am perfectly happy with my current VR HMD setup. I just want better VR games to play. Luckily, we have people like Luke Ross who bring good games to VR. I am currently playing Hogwart's Legacy in VR, and it is absolutly amazing. I have far cry 6 and cyberpunk 2077 on standby to try out in VR. Was thinking of getting a Quest 3 but, I believe, I will pass on getting it and enjoy the VR headsets I already have. I am excited to play Resident Evil 4 on my PSVR2 and Ghostbusters VR. Heck Yeah! But, I would ❤ to own one of those Pimax Crystal headsets. Just not sure my Intel i9-12900K 32GB DDR4 and RTX3090 will be capable of offering the experience it can deliver. Thanks for the Video. Enjoyed watching it. Have a Wonderful Day! 😉👌💯🎮🕹👻🥷

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

100% agree for most people a good PC should be their first purchase. With your PC specs you should not have any issues running this beautifully, but being happy is all that matters, so if you're satisfied with your current setup, then I agree, there's no point in buying a new HMD. And yeah I fully agree, we need more games that take advantage of high-end headsets like this one. It's easy to get lost in the constant need to upgrade, but you're totally right, enjoying what you already have is a way better use of your time and energy. I'm super excited for Ghostbusters and RE4 on PSVR2 as well. Thanks so much for watching, wish you the best day as well! ❤️

Yeah yeah yeah bruh let me just pay 3 times as much xD

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

Well there clearly are lots of people doing exactly that. I have both and love both, but they’re very different beasts 😄

What a shocker, a VR headset for triple the price is better

@VRManCave

5 ай бұрын

You’d be surprised 😂 The Index is 2x the price and it’s worse in pretty much every way besides maybe FoV and Audio.

Two grand for that, nah.

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

Yeah definitely crazy expensive, but also crazy good. For sure it’s not a mass appeal headset though.

Lol that headset is so bulky i doubt that trade off is worth it lol

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

Don't knock it 'till you've tried it :)) Yeah it's definitely big and bulky, but the image quality is stunning.

I can't wait until better companies make stuff like this for under 1k... (AUD) Preferably with eye tracked foveated rendering at least 150⁰ horizontal fov, wireless in built OR as an add-on for no more than a few hundred bucks.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Absolutely me too! Tech like this is bound to come down in price and become more and more common. The specs you’ve mentioned sound like a dream, just perfect! Thanks for watching and for the comment!

Whats lol so funny is how die-hard fans of Meta tell you the Quest 3 is better haha

@VRManCave

6 ай бұрын

I own lots of headsets including Quest 2, Quest 3 and Quest Pro. You don't have to be a fanboy to think the Quest 3 is a fantastic headset for the price, because it is. Is it better than the Pimax Crystal? Well, depends on what's important to you. In terms of clarity, absolutely not, but then again it's less than half the weight, a third of the size and a third of the price. I love both of them, and for very active games I reach for my Quest 3 way more than I do my Crystal.

Hmmm quest 3 sorry

@VRManCave

6 ай бұрын

Haha no need to say sorry, I love my Quest 3, and Pimax is not my company 😅 The clarity is waaayy higher than Quest 3, but I still love both. Only thing that matters is that you enjoy your VR experience, regardless of the headset.

The Quest 3 is next Gen as far as it becoming truly AR compatible.

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

It’s a decent first gen AR/MR device but I’d argue the biggest strengths lie in other areas like screens and lenses.

Did you just compare a $1,799.99 dollar vr headset to a Meta (Oculus) Quest 3?

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

I did not, no. I very clearly said it’s NOT Quest 3 🤣. It would be a ridiculous comparison anyway.

No inside-out tracking = no buy. Ever.

@VRManCave

7 ай бұрын

It IS inside out tracked 😄 The lighthouse tracked faceplate is just optional, but by default it’s tracked just like a Quest 2 or 3 would be, using cameras on the headset itself :)

As a vr enthusiast, software and ease of use are far more important than graphics...thats why I use my Quest over my mor powerful vr headsets.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

I agree! Frustration and having to fiddle with stuff takes away from the enjoyment. That being said, with the newest updates the Pimax has been rock solid. I’ve had way more issues with things not working and stuttering on my Quest 2 and Pro.

So .. bad software, bulky and heavy design, which arrived with a faulty display, and so on and so forth.. but at least you mentioned the quest 3 in the title to gain views. I mean yeah, seems like a good headset for its usecase, but also pretty limited, and the Quest 3 mention is there for no other reasons than clickbait. So.. uff.

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

Not sure how much you’ve skipped through the video and how much of it you’ve actually watched, but no, the software is not bad at all anymore, and the headset was actually decent comfort wise, especially with the level of visual quality it offers. Regarding the Quest 3 mention, I don’t really see how I’m getting extra clicks by saying it’s NOT Quest 3 😄 It’s more of a joke than clickbait tbh, cause everyone’s only talking about that now.

@Yamyatos

8 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave I didnt mean to sound rude, but it clearly is clickbait nontheless. As you said it yourself, there is a lot of content about the Quest 3 right now. A lot of it justifiably, since it just launched and people are curious. But many people also love to play devils advocate and imply there are problems with the headset, or that is has some issues or is not for everybody, or whatnot. This serves no other purpose than getting clicks, mostly from people who are interrested in the headset or want to see if they missed something about the tech they just bought. Intentional or not, this title certainly does the same, implying the hype is unjustified and the actual future of VR lies somewhere else. I dont wanna get into an argument over this, but if the Quest 3 is not part of the videos content, there really is only one reason for it being in the title. There is a clear linguistic difference between "Next Gen is here and it's not the Quest 3" and "Next Gen is here, and no this video is not about the Quest 3" too. For the latter you could possibly argue it's meant as a joke, but for the former, clearly not. Anyways, you know what you did and why and im just one of many viewers. So take this as feedback, and continue doing what you feel is right. I personally dont like titles that just ride the hype. The video content itself was solid.

Big screen VR bro.............

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

Yeah looking forward to trying it out for sure! Many reports of it having issues with glare and edge to edge clarity but would still love to give it a go just for the size alone.

$1700 vs $500 what a surprise. It is still a Pimax with Pimax quality and Pimax qerks.

@VRManCave

7 ай бұрын

It's not a direct comparison, I just released the video right before the Quest 3 launched and everyone was eagerly waiting for Quest 3 videos, so that's why I put it in the title, to emphasize that there are other, better options, even if at a very different pricepoint. Otherwise, the Crystal is vastly different from the Pimax of the past.

Only $2000 🤣

Oh come on dude?! Comparing a high end pcvr headset with the highest end pc you can get to an entry level headset with a snapdragon processor running android? You can't make this up! 😂😂😂

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

I'm not comparing it, that would be absurd for too many reasons to even start listing here. I'm just saying that everyone is out here talking about the Quest 3, and there are other options for hardcore VR enthusiasts with deep wallets, that's all! 😁

not Quest 3, i thought its beyond.. so i watch it.. and i see pimax.. Bye😂

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

This was actually my first experience with a Pimax headset and after all the negative stuff about older Pimax products I was expecting the worse. I was super pleasantly surprised and I’d say give the video a chance, cause I go pretty in depth on the Crystal and 99% of previous issues are gone with the new updates. Companies do learn and grow, and Pimax has been in the VR hardware space for waaaay longer than Bigscreen has. TLDR: Watch the video, things change and preconceived ideas are rarely useful in life 😄

@eldisenador662

9 ай бұрын

And you're wrong, Quest 3 is much more because it mixes realities, not only is the viewer limited to play, they offer you experience and interaction, from the moment you turn it on they already want to make you feel part of another reality and with the 3 even more.

@moncimoov

9 ай бұрын

@@VRManCaveif its 3 years ago,maybe im interested... because FOV and clarity is very important at that time today its almost 2024, comfort and size is more important now (display and resolution is 3rd priority.. as long its OLED im good) but if u love to wear that brick daily.. then u are very lucky.. i just cant🤿

@daviddahlstrom192

9 ай бұрын

@@eldisenador662 Just out of curiosity, what is the "killer app" for mixed reality that you see in the home? I mean, there are tons of real and potential applications in the commercial space (say, helping firefighters navigate through a smoky building, virtual meeting, locating mapped items inside walls like wiring, etc).. But at home, beyond using camera pass-through to create a playspace, what are the AR/MR games or apps that you enjoy spending hours in playing regularly?

@daviddahlstrom192

9 ай бұрын

@@moncimoov I totally agree with you. Its one of the reasons the Nintendo Switch became so popular. Folks realized that playing on a big box in the living room on a huge TV was so 1980--especially in a world with smartphones and watches. I mean who needs 4K on a TV locked in your living room when you can have 720p on a 7 inch OLED screen? And VR is no different. Why have excessive visual and sound quality when you can have something smaller instead? I agree. It makes absolutely no sense. No sense at all.

Waste of money for me. I have quest 3 and for 500$ I have both worlds with great graphics

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Yes it's a niche headset only for hardcore users. I have a Quest 3 as well, but they're just not comparable. PCVR on a displayport-based headset is just miles better than the compressed one you can get via usb-c or wireless.

@Nobody-Nowhere

8 ай бұрын

Quest3 is waste of money when you can have Pico4 for 300$.

This title is the equivalent of naming it “the NEXT Generation of CARS are here and it’s NOT a Honda civic! It’s a multi hundred thousand dollar MERCEDES or FERRARI! Like wow didn’t see that coming ?Overall this seems like a terrible trade off. Vast majority of people want something lighter and Costs literally a fraction, of this. Also stupid title to the video, but just IMO.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the input, I genuinely appreciate honest feedback. That being said, I don't fully agree with you. I want smaller, cheaper headsets too, but I can also appreciate the immense quality of a high end headset like this. A Honda Civic is a great car, but it doesn't mean you won't buy that Mercedes if you can afford it and want the best of the best.

Hey man you're talking about Pimax. The company that promises everything and only fulfills a quarter is objective. They sell their helmet in full and when they reach the middle of their objective, they take out another helmet. Or lie to us by saying we'll take back your old one to deduct the new one. And they even recycle their audio system from old headphones (look at the different color on the headphones). Where are the lenses offering more resolution? Where is the wigig? A battery in addition to the wires on PC? We don't care about the blind since it's only for PCVR. In short, Pimax is shit.

@VRManCave

7 ай бұрын

The Crystal is my first experience with a Pimax headset, and it's been awesome. I'm aware and have even mentioned in the video that Pimax is not known to have a great reputation, but the Crystal has blown my mind over and over again and I've had zero issues with their software. The higher FOV lenses are available, as is the lighthouse faceplate they promised. They're not Meta, so they can't have infinite resources to release everything at once but they are working on all of that. Not sure if you've actually ever tried a Crystal or just love to hate for no reason, but if you ever get a chance to try one, do that and only then decide if it sucks or not :))

@Draco_9458

7 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave Oh I'm not at all the type to hate without reason. I have a Pimax 8kx which is collecting dust. I bought it when they said they would give us a full refund for the purchase of their future 12KX but that didn't come out. They even promised $800 off the 12KX when you bought a Crystal. So the handover of my 8KX + the Crystal they will give me $200 in addition to the 12KX? For large FOV lenses it's just a catch-up when everyone said that the FOV was far from the 140° announced. And I believe that some KZreadrs have tested them but noted a lot of rendering and distortion problems. Oh and why did you keep such a big helmet with such small lenses? I do not question the rendering quality of the Crystal, although compared to a varjo even just aero to see, I question the Pimax company itself. And under no circumstances will I allow myself to question your video and your work.

PIMAX = BUFU

bro quest 3 is 500$… what is your point… wtf 😂

@VRManCave

5 ай бұрын

I made this video right before the Quest 3 came out. My point is just reviewing a super high end VR headset. I love my Quest 3 too, but this is just next level.

@saren6538

Ай бұрын

Fool

Despite the resolution, dealing with the software and the company behind makes this option forever obsolete. The support is a nightmare that never ends. The software is not native and highly locale dependent (build for Asian languages then repurposed using a bridge). It’s so bad. The software and hardware is confusing and the design is totally uninspired.

@VRManCave

4 ай бұрын

Not sure when you've experienced it, but I can confidently say that in the past 6 months or so they've updated everything and it works flawlessly every time. No disconnections, no weird configs to make, it just works.

@saren6538

Ай бұрын

@@VRManCavehe dreams to own one

way to big

@VRManCave

8 ай бұрын

Not gonna argue that, I really wish they had ditched the standalone functionality and just made it smaller. I mean it looks fantastic inside the headset but yeah, you’re right.

@allanallen1835

8 ай бұрын

@@VRManCave reminded me of a hamerhead shark lol. agree with you tho. reduce size and uts a winner..

buy a pimax if you want to hate your self, the company is incompetent and their hardware and software are broken, a year in it still takes me 25-45 minutes to turn my 8kx on... completely broken.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

I haven’t personally tested the 8Kx, but on the Crystal that is absolutely not the case. It turns on instantly and works like a charm 99% of the time. Not sure why you’re talking about a headset you haven’t tried just cause it’s from the same company 😄

@techfun123

9 ай бұрын

Not true. Your comment has literally nothing to do with the crystal. I have one and no issues like that at all.

@CSOCSO

9 ай бұрын

I have crystal. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesnt. Mostly it does but cant say everything is peachy.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

@@techfun123 thank you for chiming in. I see lots of comments here from people who apply their old experiences to this new headset, which they haven’t even tried. Companies evolve, learn and grow.

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

@@CSOCSO after the latest firmware updates, mine works great 99% of the time. I haven’t owned any other Pimax headsets but the Crystal is great and I haven’t had nearly as many issues as I was expecting.

Quest 3 isn't a ridiculous brick on your face that costs $1500 US either. Also it's sketchy low quality Chinese crap with horrible software.

Junk

@VRManCave

9 ай бұрын

Have you actually tried it?