Thanks for asking me to be part of this important conversation!

@AngelaAngelicMessangerDenmark

10 жыл бұрын

I really don't know how my mom and dad did it, but my complexion was never an issue. In fact, I was 35 before I learned there was "light skin vs. dark skin"! Very interesting conversation. Thanks for sharing.

@ataylorai1

10 жыл бұрын

You don't need to be "fair skinned" and I think that is not a great idea to give to people that idea and not something that I would teach to my kids and for anyone who follows my channel knows that I look very white but I have a mixed background. My middle child is olive skinned but the other two are more white skinned and I wish that I was not so white so I would not have to defend myself from what darker skinned people say. You should be excepted for you who are not your skin color. PERIOD.

i'll be so happy to see the day when people of any race feel they don't need these creams. I wonder if that day will ever come. probably not...

No ... No I don't remember as a kid holding my hand up to a friend and seeing what my skin color looks like against theirs.

i'm indian and the reason i like ebony girls is because of their skin, hair, lips, curvy bodies damn i can go on and on...and i hope atleast one of them finds me attractive. ok speaking of a "white" or "black" person, has anyone ever seen one? a "white" or a "black" person, like ever? i haven't! and i bet you never did too cuz they don't exist. then why do we have those two words in usage for skin color association. i mean how fucked up can we be humans be. pisses me off man! it's effing 2014! .

Why is being darkskin perceived as ugly or looking "dirty"? All black is beautiful. You shouldn't want to change because that's the way God made you. And if all the world were colorblind, what would we do then?

I'm part Irish, and I've been told by many people that I need to go tanning. The problem is that I don't tan - I burn and peel. Sometimes I get more freckles. But my skin is always just as light as when I started. So I've just learned to accept it, and use lots of sunscreen. My husband's family had a foreign exchange student from Taiwan with gorgeous skin. But she commented a few times about how she was too dark and she envied his family's light, Scottish skin. It's crazy how people are never just okay with themselves.

Thank you for keeping the dialogue out there.

I think that for black people our perceived beauty is defined in part by our hair as well. So in our culture "good hair" (straighter hair) is treated similarly as light skin is. So middle to dark skinned black people can play with the light skinned people if they have "good hair"

@Jossette888

10 жыл бұрын

That may have been true 30 years ago but these days people can change their hair texture with chemicals or hair extensions. So how can someone be judged by hair texture? I was relaxed most of my life and I didn't even know my real hair texture until I went natural a few years ago....that's very sad, I know. LOL

Well, I like my skin color. God made me this way! So, stop hating!

the indian fairness craze is not just india its in allot of other asian countries. it symbolizes wealth. it used to be this way in europe too but now people want to be tanned

It seems that universally there is the "perfect" color, not too dark and not too light. Mexicans, Blacks, Indians, (naturally dark skinned people) are happy when their child is not too dark. The lighter the better. White people don't want to be too pasty white, but would not like to be dark black either. So there is a middle ground for color. I have know people who are insecure and want to fit it, either be darker or lighter. People who are secure like Franchesca in this video, ignore what other people say about color and love who and how you look. Growing up, I had been insecure in many situations, either wanting to be darker or wanting to be darker. If you are insecure you will want to fit in with people around you and not be noticed for being different. I wish I could love myself like Franchesca does. I am much closer to loving how I am, but still have a long way to go.

@freespirit1237

4 жыл бұрын

@setwithacapitalj but bollywood is mostly concenterated by north indian people which , if you see south indian film industry their are so many dark skinned actors ,like Rajnikanth , dhanush , etc . India is very diverse country , their are all shades of people

Just yesterday I was watching some TV commercials and I noticed they were being racially inclusive but everyone was light complected compared to most people in their respective ethnic groups. Even among whites, there is a way higher representation of blonde, blue-eyed types in the media than there is in reality. And this bias may not be entirely cultural. There have been studies where they show infants pictures of people with various skin tones and the reactions to "fairer" skin is more positive. It seems to be a weird bias we are born with, but, alas, we are also born illiterate and both are things you can grow out of.

Franchesca is such a great talker. Nice and quick outlook on colourism! I recently made a colourism 101 video actually which has an overview of some of the major themes for people unfamiliar. :)

I didn't even know those things existed until I saw them in a talk show in middle school. Never saw them in Hispanic stores but maybe that's because I always went straight to the bakery and other foods section.

The existence of his product is just depressing

I'm white but I honestly think dark skin is beautiful! All skin colors are though

@ejdarly4733

9 жыл бұрын

Xela D Great!! One down and 6 BILLION to go

@ricksantos1580

3 жыл бұрын

Light skin is an evolution adaptation to cold and low UV climates/environment. Even darker skinner people living in colder climates over many generations will become lighter skinned due to evolutionary changes and adaptation... That said human beings are human beings there is nothing special about dark or light skin.... just IMHO..

This is a worldwide epidemic among people of color around the world who resort to the use of very damaging products and unsafe methods that actually give them first or second degree burns. It becomes part of the culture to attain light skin as a way of dissociation from darker skin and perceived lower caliber. This is a discussion that needs to continue taking place.

I like how she is revealing that this doesn't just happen in the black community, it's a global thing. I've watched documentaries on skin bleaching where they went to places like the Dominican Republic, Brazil, Jamaica, India, and Nigeria. They all had a growing demand for skin whitening/bleaching products. Woman used them fully aware of the health risks, but still used them because they claimed being closer to white have them an upper edge in life.

Wow...interesting insight! I always knew about the African-American culture. I had no idea the problem ran this deep in the Indian culture as well. And those skin lighting products are a trip! Who knew!!

Great interview!

I enjoyed the video. It was quite informative. I had no idea such commercials existed. In 2014, I cannot for the life of me understand why the color of anyone's skin STILL matters.

@TheLillianYoung

10 жыл бұрын

Because of racism.

Dangerous solarium's, tanning salons, spray tans and creams, and on the flip side bleaches and lightening creams. It's like no matter where you are and what colour no one is happy. This stuff is worrying.

It's great to see this discussed across the racial spectrum. I'd love to see a continuation that includes Hispanics and Asians also.

I've been living in Mexico for the last few years. I was shocked after I saw a commercial for a skin lightning cream called "White Secret" WTF? also I've read that Mexico is one of the top blonde hair dye consumers in the world. You turn on the television and more than 80% of people are white and blonde, when in reality the majority of Mexicans look tanned and have dark hair. So upsetting :(

@setwithacapitalj

10 жыл бұрын

...hmm that's the case everywhere. Most Indian actors and actresses are very light and nowhere near to the Indians I see around. These countries take the lightest people (who usually make up a small portion of the population; in Mexico, Mestizos are the majority and whites are a minority with only 9-17% of Mexicans being fully white). It is not unique to Mexico. It happens in many other countries as well, the Philippines is another great example where the stars and celebrities are lighter and have more European features whereas the majority of the people are not.

@freespirit1237

4 жыл бұрын

@@setwithacapitalj but bollywood is mostly concenterated by north indian people which , if you see south indian film industry their are so many dark skinned actors ,like Rajnikanth , dhanush , etc . India is very diverse country , their are all shades of people

this was very interesting

Wow.. This made me feel really sad.. I'm a pale ass Norwegian girl, blonde and blue eyes, and I have to work my ass off just to get a bit of a tan!!! Then again, if you have straight hair, you want curls, got blue eyes, you want brown eyes...But this can't be healthy!!!!

Wow being a white person growing up in Australia with a big flat dark birthmark my mum was scared it was more likely to get skin cancer (we are rightfully terrified of it down here). So she took me to the dermatologist, and the dermatologist said because it was so dark I was least likely to get skin cancer there, as it was "shade 5" or something, while the rest of my is more like a 3 in darkness (I'm pretty tanned for a whitey). I basically just thought from then on "oh, being dark is objectively physically better". Very interesting and important to here about all these pressures I think, most white people (maybe particularly in Australia, even though we're the most multicultural country outside of Israel) are totally oblivious to this, despite the lack of black people in glamour magazines, in adverts, etc. Very much out of sight out of mind for us.

Okay, so that Jolene creme bleach is being sold in my town which is 99% white. I honestly hope none of the south asian or east asian people here feel the need to use it. I stupidly thought it was to bleach your hair.

@Jossette888

10 жыл бұрын

You're right, Jolen's is facial hair bleach (I use it to lighten my eyebrows). It will not bleach the skin. The skin bleach was that stuff above it called Fair&White. :)

@KairiTardisAndMe

10 жыл бұрын

Jossette Monroe Okay, that's awesome then. :) Thanks, that'll be useful for me. Haha.

@Jossette888

10 жыл бұрын

***** Glad to help! Please be very careful not to get it in your eyes or leave it on too long (it can turn your eyebrows white) and please make sure you do a patch test (behind your ear) first. :)

My freshman year roommate was from India and I happen to be a very fair white girl, so when spring came around I was using some tanning lotion in preparation for wearing shorts. I remember her shock that I was trying to be darker, she was so confused. That is always the problem with females, we always want what we don't have and it is so sad.

@athelija

10 жыл бұрын

"The problem with females"? You say that as if the desire has nothing to do with socially constructed ideas...which was the major point of the video lol. The problem is not "females"

@2011lillian

10 жыл бұрын

I guess I was talking more about female body image, a lot of times girls who have a large chest wish they had a smaller chest whereas girls who have a small chest wish theirs was larger. Girls who have curly hair sometimes wish they had straight and girls who have straight sometimes wish their hair was curly. Same goes with height, short girls want to be taller while tall girls want to be shorter. Female body image is a socially constructed idea and I think that many females feel like the grass is greener on the other side. I just find it crazy that on opposite sides of the world people are both trying to change their skin tone to be more similar to the other.

No. I've never held my arm next to anyone's to see who is darker. For a lot/most Asians, skin lightening cream is the norm - and that's from their countries (India, Iran, Korea, China, etc), not the US.

I'm "wheatish" and a little "dusty" and I remember, in summer, when my white friend put my arm near hers, and I remember her saying "Oh look I'm almost close to you!" I was astonished because I was only in primary school at the time, even though I've lived in England my whole life I was still confused on why she wanted her skin to be darker, because since my mum was very very fair and so was my grandma,my mum use to always say in summer kairi, which means black in Gujurati or Swahili, I don't know which one. And I was wheatish and I am still to this day and I'M proud of being different.

Great video. Its so sad however, that so many of us have such deep psychological, spiritual, emotional abhorrence towards something that is essentially a God decision. How does that serve to make a better world?

@TiesOfAffection

10 жыл бұрын

God has nothing to do with this.

@Yazzyahm

10 жыл бұрын

Yua ToA I think God has everything to do with it

This video makes me think of the people who do this and get nose jobs, or whatever to make ourselves look (or feel) more "white". I feel it is a form of self hate. When did it become a bad thing to be happy with who you are? I know I may not like some of the things I say, or do (using that 20/20 hind-sight), but i am damn sure that I love myself and who I am. My skin color is just the outside me, not ALL of me.

My friend is Cambodian and constantly applies this crap and talks about how he hates his skin....and here I am trying to hide my pasty tan lines so I can wear strapless dresses...

I mean if tanning skin is ok why not getting light ?

This was good

Shit is so fucked up....I hate this world

I've never been bias towards anyone's skin color. Beauty comes in all shades. My children come in all shades from dark to almost white and I love them each the same. I'm more interested in their character not their color or race.

Just Wow and Sad at the same time. I am happy that my parents never used the color or race theme while raising me. And also where I'm from in Canada we didn't had light skin dark skin debates. Only when I came to the US I kept hearing that. To me it is just putting an invisible obstacle in front of us so we can't reach for our goals in life. Great topic though

In Asia the lighter you are means how educated or wealthy you are and that you don't work outside and carry a sun umbrella wherever you go... Now in the States the darker the Caucasian people are means wealth also because you don't have to work and can lay out in the sun all day or have a tanning bed in your home. But the working women splurge for treatment and go to salons when they can to achieve this also...

Oh and that "good hair" black folks love so much... it's hard to brush, goes in random directions, and doesn't lay flat like nappy hair when you try to get a nice even fade. So the grass is always greener on that too. Shots get fired when my hair looks crazy, but that's that "good hair" ya'll want so bad. I can't grease it up too heavily or it gets even worse... but then I get told I'm doing it wrong by someone who doesn't even have that hair. My dad looks crazy all day everyday with the same hair, he finally got a good cut by a new barber but it looks like a white man's haircut. That "good hair" is overrated. You can't go to black barbers and you don't want to go to a white barber. You have to do it yourself.. at least I do. That's real fun, a total blast. I love having "good hair", but if you want to sell me some naps, and trade it for this wavy bush I'm game.

I also noticed the wedding rings on the hands that were lighter as you panned across them 🤔😒 very sad.

Wow I've gotten my fair share of negative comments for being black and light-skinned(it's almost funny how you always hear the reverse as if light-skinned black people attack dark-skinned black people when we're the minority and would get curbed stomped). I had no idea other groups had even worse attacks on appearance with that skin lightning cream commercial. I actually had to pause the video to keep my stomach in check, I felt sick watching it. I'll admit white people do at time treat me differently for being white, but on the flip side they make awful disparaging comments while doing so(and I'm not fishing for any of it). I've heard things like "Wow you're not like other black people." to "You're an Oreo... black on the outside, white on the inside."... So if that's something to be jealous of then have fun with your lightening cream. I love my shade because yeah I do look like I have the perfect tan white people wish they could achieve and dark-skinned black folks also wish they could achieve. I got lucky and happened to be the color every color struck white and black person wanted to have. Oh well, why should I perceive my skin tone as a negative? I love it. You'd be amazed how many black people, my own family included, don't allow me to join in skin color discussions. If I do I'm tossed nasty comments because I'm too light to comment or know what they're talking about. Luckily I'm talk and broad shouldered so I force my way in, remind them what kind of comments I get, and stand up for myself. All my life I've heard "Light skin is played out." as a disparaging comment from other black people to get me to hate myself, yet I always hear about the plight of dark-skinned people. I don't know about other cultures, but there are a fair amount of dark-skinned black people who are absolutely awful to light skinned-black people over perceived benefits we supposedly get. Yeah we get to be a token, ostracized, asked "What are you?", and maybe bypass "driving while black"(or security guard harassment) if we're lucky. On the other side unless we act extremely thugish and "hard" to prove our blackness we're the odd duck in black circles. I can't even take skin tone discussions seriously when it's always in favor of the very people who keep this stuff going to be honest. At this point most white people don't even know what light-skinned or dark-skinned means anymore unless they've dated a black person. It's an issue for people of color, kept alive by people of color. I personally can't stroke the egos of dark-skinned black people and tell them how beautiful they are when they're so ready to kick me in the teeth for having high yellow skin because white people supposedly fall at my feet and open every door for me(they don't). My entire family is black, we all vary from the brightest white to the darkest black. Who doesn't love their family? This color struck garbage is tired and needs to die. It dies by not making it an issue anymore. On most race issues I hate when people claim we're being too sensitive, but on this one people ARE being too sensitive. To the point where they attack people who are just like them... and even of the exact same family. I'm leaving tons out, but there was a lot of bullying. I was essentially treated to the mixed child experience despite not being directly mixed. And mixed kids were treated horribly when I was growing up in Virginia(31 now), probably worse in other places. Would really love for people to just get a grip and use their own eyeballs rather than seeking validation. I don't love myself because someone told me to, I love myself because this is how I was created for my path in life. Brown women with dark features(brown/black hair, makeup, etc) are the most stunning women on the planet. It's so stupid to see so many lighten their hair, makeup, and even skin which washes out their beauty rather than accentuate it. I can't and won't be the one to do that for others at the cost of my own self worth. They need to do that for themselves. Everyone needs to do that for their own inner health. No one can do that for you and no amount of talking about it will make you love your darker skin. It just becomes ego stroking and the other person walking on egg shells feeling like they'll say the wrong thing or hit someone's ear wrong. Being kept from saying I even like my own skin tone for so long felt like an attempt by other black people at calling me ugly because they felt ugly. If I comment on my own skin tone I'm somehow insulting them. It's ridiculous. Yet if you're dark you can make comments about skin tone all day long and there's no problem. A problem created by slave masters who "hated"(and lusted after) us and kept going long after it by the descendants of slaves. Does that make any sense? Some black folk really need to stop the blame game and start owning the real world around them.

There are many tanning/bronzing products also.... I think we are only thinking one sided here. I personally use tanning products because simply I want to have a little color to my skin because I want to look better according to my style...not because I don't want to be a white supremacist or trying to be black this year! I hope this is not true and simply people who want to alter their looks for fashion and not ethnicity.

Wow.. I never knew how easy it was for people to lighten their skin.. I always thought that was either non existent or just something that's only available to the wealthy. I mean I personally say do what you think looks good, if someone wants to lighten their skin because they think it looks better for them, go for it. I find it sad though, that people are doing this because *society* is telling them it's better.. All skins colors are beautiful and unique and should be appreciated how they are.

so sad. i love all shades. brown is beautiful

I don't get it, I've always been pale as shit and got made fun of it! But to be honest I had no idea these creams actually bleached skin...I use a whitening cream. lots of caucasian women do. It evens and brightens the complexion, and I thought that's ALL it did. I had no idea you could actually change your skin color! Or for that matter that so many people wanted to. :/

These 'beauty' industries sicken me.

This is craziness

It hurt watching this. Mainly because you know that people look at you when your skin is dark and somehow think you're doomed, even when every aspect of your existence speaks otherwise. Skin lightening creams in 2014? -- sigh -- At least they seem to be safer chemically than what was used in the past.

@chescaleigh

10 жыл бұрын

sadly, they aren't safer at all. they're still incredibly toxic

Is that chescalocs?

@chescaleigh

9 жыл бұрын

It sure is ;)

I always buy these cremes but I thought they were for the dark on your knese and elbows or around your neck. I didnt know people put this shit all over their bodies....

Shadism is horrible.

Americans are obsessed with pigmentation. I do not understand it. Does this not go back to Linnaeus who abandoned his own criteria when it came to the classification of species when it came to the inhabitants of the various continents and he, without warning, presupposed moral traits to their inhabitants? Let's face it: each culture (and time period) defines beauty in its own particular way (Africans define beauty in a different way than Europeans, and today's supermodel would not have made the cut 100 years ago in Western civilization)! And yes, I will have to live with the fact that I think gold and silver looks less attractive on my pale skin. It's all relative! I got it when my European sister said of my darling: "He's black?" Well, yes in the USA he is. Where I come from he may jump the color line. I originally thought he was part Asian! There you go - perception! Does it matter? - No - not for me. He's my guy as a person - kind, loving, very smart (I like that) Is it not time to look (finally) beyond pigmentation?

I don't know why but honestly I could love Black people if their Face structure was good, but it isn't, they have dark skin and also their facial structure wasn't good even their hair wasn't good looking. For me the race that got the most perfect skin texture and color is ASIAN, that's why many people obsessed with Asian media especially KPOP, even the facial structure of Asian was so cute and attractive AF. This is why Asian and White People should be grateful to GOD. 🙏

I'm so sorry to tell Indian folk this, but I see no difference between the dusky person and the so called fair one in that commercial. One just looks like she has on more makeup. Colonialism has really fucked up we minorities I promise. It's sort of like the difference between our lighter complexions and medium complexions in the black community. No one's ever going to catch up.

stupid comments A person intuitively loves light color Light skin is more attractive more beautiful than dark skin The lighter skin is the more attractive Anyone likes light skin There is no racism here This is just an ethical feeling of a person And therefore in India people tend to have light skin And English colonialism has nothing to do with it

This just goes to show the influence and lies/propaganda that Satan has on this world he is ruling. (1 John 5:19) & (Revelation 12:12)God knew and had pinned by the wisest man who ever walked the earth (other than Jesus) that satan would try to create such a lie, so for all swarthy skinned women mostly "Black women and girls", the Song of Solomon also known as Canticals.Chapter 1:5 - I AM DARK BUT LOVELY hince the name of this product you featured "fair & lovely"..........Also Jehovah God made out of one man every nation of men (Acts 17:26)so all nationalities and skin colors are beautiful/perfect,However, to the dark skinned (Black girls, because we are hated the most)O, you Most Beautiful of women READ the Song of Solomon chapter 1:8

I don't know why but honestly I could love Black people if their Face structure was good, but it isn't, they have dark skin and also their facial structure wasn't good even their hair wasn't good looking. For me the race that got the most perfect skin texture and color is ASIAN, that's why many people obsessed with Asian media especially KPOP, even the facial structure of Asian was so cute and attractive AF. This is why Asian and White People should be grateful to GOD. 🙏