The first half of the kzread.infoUgkx3ICSK6nSknaL_45CU2NmFSoXjarGMDiJ book is everything about wood: types, tools, finishes, setting up shop etc. The second half is all about doing projects for inside and outside of the home. The color pictures are helpful. After reading a dozen of these types of books, this is probably the best overall (layout, color photos, plans). Only detraction is that many of the projects use a table saw/router/planer, which are usually expensive and take up space, so the plans are less friendly to newcomers and the budget conscious. But I know I can use a drill, circular saw or a jigsaw to make the projects.

Rex, thank you for your videos. I am 75, retired and a caregiver for my wife. Woodworking has become sawdust therapy for my stay at home lifestyle. You videos have encouraged me to build a workbench, which is a compilation of many content contributors, is a wonderfully addition to my shop. The side Vice is all yours, almost. I am looking forward to today’s video to make a decision on an end Vice. I also do the wood turning so your new series is enjoyable to me and I enjoy your teaching style. Thanks again.

@RexKrueger

2 жыл бұрын

Gary, thank you so much for your kind words! I'm delighted that you're finding my content useful and helpful.

@loganbender1562

2 жыл бұрын

I will henceforth only refer to my hobby " sawdust therapy"

@joetoner8848

2 жыл бұрын

I tip my cap to Logan Bender. The term @sawdusttherapy should go viral!

@BostLabs

2 жыл бұрын

Sawdust Therapy it is then, gents. 👍

@MatthewDoye

2 жыл бұрын

Similar though you've got twenty years on me.

I'm really cheap so I designed and built a twin screw vise with a long threaded rod that I cut in half and two nuts for $4, and scraps! It works great!

Made my Wednesday evening Rex. Thank you for the vise links also. Have a great weekend.

You are so right about the tail vise. I tried the planing stop and it´s way better indeed

Perfect timing, been thinking about upgrading my workbench vise.

@Chayanta

2 жыл бұрын

same here, just about to buy my first vise

Killer video Rex, thanks for sharing brother!

Hi Rex. I've recently bought two of those quick release 'tail' vices in the largest size; they have the same screw type and ribs that you mention but are re-badged under another name here in UK. As it happens, they were already affordable so imagine my surprise when I got two of them at half price because they were in obsolete packaging. BONUS! 🙂

Hey Rex I have a video suggestion. How to make a tabletop/mini work bench for hand tool woodworking. I’ve seen other channels make them but I’m curious what you could come up with.

Great teaching Rex!

This is super helpful! Thanks Rex!

Still building my first bench, and I did order the Yost vices as noted.

Great video Rex. Thanks!

Another great video, Rex! Easy to understand and no prolonged BS. You’ve really developed your presentation skills.

I am building a built-in workbench in an alcove in my basement for when it's too cold to work outside, or for other projects that are smaller scale, etc. I settled on Lee Valley's quick-release pipe vise because it's small, can be removed from the face of the bench as needed, and doesn't get in the way of the 52" tool chest I've got underneath. That said, I'll keep this in mind for the English bench that I'm putting together in the garage. I built a little saw bench and bent that will take care of a lot of the crosscutting and sawing work like crosscuts and ripping with a kataba or a western-style handsaw - kind of like the low bench but even smaller for my micro workspace. All this to say, my woodworking game has been hugely elevated because of your videos and no-nonsense approach to woodworking! Thanks for your great work.

Thanks for another thought provoking video. Great ad...vice!

I built an extendable bench I saw on Pask Makes. I have a moxon vice on the end with handles I turned on the lathe. I want to make a version of your knock down legs for space saving and portability. A dream vice I saw on Acorn to Arabella is a pattern maker's vice.

".....you had to go vintage..." dude. that's your answer for everything..!😍

Hi Rex, I’ve enjoyed your videos since the beginning especially all the work benches

@robhayden5515

2 жыл бұрын

The benches have been historical and traditional. Would you do a video comparing those traditional benches with some of the newer styles such as the Paulk style or the MFT style or the many derivatives of those? Would hand tool woodworking be compromised by those more modern styles or, conversely, are those more modern styles better suited to a hybrid, power tool + hand tool, approach? Thanks.

I'm with you on homemade leg vise. I picked up an old beat up leg vise n used the wood screw after surgery on it lol n used a part of it to lengthen it to the floor. Draw bored it with like a 2 inch tenon lol

Here I was scrolling through my feed and then I saw your thumbnail. It feels like I haven't seen you in forever.

Thank you Rex for such quality content! Your vids are helping me build my bench, tools, and knowledge. I have much to learn and you make it enjoyable! 🍻

Thanks for your work.

Thanks Rex. I just made a 8'x30" woodworking table. I need a few vises.

I built a tail vise that is removable from my work bench, as you said, not easy to add one to a bench,, unless it is removable. this was a prototype that I thought I would try. Turned out great. I mount it to my work bench using the dogs,, The fact it is about 3 inches tall makes it perfect for hand plaining on top of my low work bench. Built it out of scraps. but even surprised myself. Took about half a day,, bought the screw online. guess can't add attachments here,, new here myself, but like your channel. very informative.

I needed this

Hope you're getting something for all the vices you just sold... Got a new face vice on order.

Right on the money, I'm building a new workbench in the next couple of weeks. I had the Yost vises in my sight so this is impeccable timing. Thank you Rex!

Thanks really helpful.

tbh, my personal favorite top 3 vises are, my foot, my knee, and my butt

Yeah, I keep going in circles on this one. I have had several vises in my carte for year now. I'm going to watch this again. I got some mix messaging from you on this. You finished on the note .. you like the Yost. But.. it was also presented as the secondary vise.

Well... I use my great-grandfather's workbench. I'm from Central Europe, for historic reasons we have a lot of german influence in tools and even in professional language. (for example we call the square as "vinkli" after German Winkel). It have the traditional "moving car" tail-vise, and a the "Ping pong racket" style front vise. It's may be more complicated than those new, fancy one, but I still really like that. Much more than this new iron vises. And I think that what kind of vise you use most is really depends what kind of workbench do you have. For example because it have the square metal stops, for almost every planing and thicknessing I use the tail vise. I use the font vise only for edges. Also when I have to do some kind of metal stuff, I can put my bench vise - using a T shaped base made by a birch plank and a spruce 2"* - into the tail vise (because it have much-much bigger surface). And for smaller stuffs (I started to making musical instruments) I can hold them down with an F-clamp or maybe two if I want a surface to use an F clamp horizontally. It's and old, heavly used workbench. But it's still usable and I really like to work with it even if I could probably do or get a better one. * Obviously we use SI.

@BrimfulEmptiness

2 жыл бұрын

I definitely miss the old workbench that my grandfather inherited from his father, which has been built this way and dated from the 19th century. The complex shape of the tail vice opening made that thing really flexible when it came to quickly switching between workpieces of different sizes.

@borjesvensson8661

Жыл бұрын

We work the same way in sweden (our carpenters often went to gernany as journeymen (gesellen/gesäller)) Only thing done in the front vice is stuff not fitting in the tail vice. You might even plane the edge of boards lying down on the bench sticking out on the side if accuracy is not important. Planing the face of boards in the front vice is just confusing to us. How do you even get the idea? Planning to make more square dogs for my bench from wood. Have not desided if i will use wood springs or canibalise some pens.

Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up as a support

You can make a hold fast out of a railroad C clip. Its on my own to-do list.

The tail vise is indispensable on my bench. So many uses, use with dogs, especially for plow planing, spare vise (Sometimes something is in face vise I don't want to remove work) some shapes just are not able to go in face vise ( the other day I was leveling plant stand with four legs) and sometime its just easier to saw a board sticking out from vise. On my bench I leave dogs in all the holes in front for face vise faster and easier. They are blind holes so I made hook tool to pull up out of piano wire and dowel handle, dogs have hole drilled at shoulder.

@larryfisher7056

Жыл бұрын

I agree about the tail vise. When plowing or shooting long moldings like window mullions a tail vise is really convenient.

@borjesvensson8661

Жыл бұрын

Why not through holes and dogs not long enough to push up from underneath? Do you have a apron on the bench (and how do you keep a blind dog hole free from debri?)

@jimcarter4929

Жыл бұрын

@@borjesvensson8661 Apron in the way. holes go through.

I've just picked up a simple vintage Record vise that needs a little restoration, that's what I'll be using.

I'm building a bench now...in the process I realized that Apron boards (such as those on the English bench) obviate much of the need for a large face vice, since larger work pieces can simply be clamped to the aprons themselves in a variety of ways...so I ordered some inch-thick maple boards to attach to the side as aprons. I'll still keep my quick release face vise (with the back jaw seated behind the apron board) and it will get most of the holding use, but for larger pieces the apron seems critical..

Clear straight forward ad”vice” ! Lol appreciate this video since Iam at that point of building a bench.

I still LOVE my leg vise that was inspired by your video. Best vise I have ever used!

Oh boy those are some good looking overalls... I need them 😩

Nice overview. When deciding on a face vise, I was on the fence whether or not to buy a quick release vise. I decided that it wasn't worth the extra money and so far the non-quick release vise I purchased has worked out pretty well with what I do with it. I've thought about planing stop for planing boards, which would be handy.

Rex always has good ad-Vice! 🙂

I wake up an hour before sunrise. Its my quiet time to enjoy your videos and a cup of coffee. I would like to know where did you get your hold downs? I looked under comments but didn't see a link like other tools you use. Thank you for your effort and time to share what you have learned with others!

@RexKrueger

2 жыл бұрын

Those are the Gramercy. You can Google them.

I got an old NOS record vice last year the same as your tail vice for like £50 delivered but I have a made in Sheffield issue which comes in handy with living in a city next to it and all the best old tool brands setting up shop there

I'm lost w/o a planing stop. I also have a angled leg vice, a portable moxon (2x4s + 8" 1/4-20 bolt + wing nuts) for dovetails. And a wonder pup in the row of dogholes for when I want a tail vice setup.

nice overall!

How do you feel about Wagin Vices? I’d love to see a video from you on those.

I found a Emmert Patternmaker's Vise at Joughin Hardware in Painesville..."I Love it"

I am pretty set on bourbon and buying tools I don’t really need, but these seem like nice vices too…

@RexKrueger

2 жыл бұрын

Good one.

Another excellent video, Thanks Rex! Lots of good things to consider for when I start my build of the english joiners bench.

As always enjoyed watching you!! Thanks for showing what we really need to enjoy woodworking

Hi Rex. Thank you for the detailed content in your videos. My question is about the shape of each vise. I understand the uses based on where it's mounted. However the options I see are a vise with a larger plate (and quick release) verses longer thin vise (with or without quick release). Is there a reason I should not use your tail vise as a face vise? Or for that matter, the same vise in both locations? I'm about to build a bench so I'll probably just go with your suggested options, but I'm curious as to why they have different shapes. Thanks again.

I've been building your quick stack bench, I thought with my experience it would almost be boring to build but I've enjoyed it thank you rex.

Hmm, no mention of the Moxon vice. I am thinking one of them would come in handy. I have lots of offcuts from my bowl turning blanks, and they are square, from 1 to 3 inch diameter. They won't stay still in a standard vice.

What a great overview. I really like the idea of using just the face vise for a year and then reevaluating your needs. Practical!

@RexKrueger

2 жыл бұрын

I really like the tail-vise....but I don't need it.

@davidpeters8813

2 жыл бұрын

@@RexKrueger what you really need is a homemade wagon vise 🙂

Thank you for some good ad-vise ! ;-)

Hello rex I Know that you love traditional simple and yet functional approach when selecting vices, by any chance do you know about Adaptable Leg Vise designs? There are some Clamp design that adapt to the shape of different object I was wondering if there is any model out there that can be applied to a vise as well

I almost exlusively use the tail vice on my antique scandinavian work bench. The front vice is rarely used and only if I have to clamp a really large piece for edge work like a table top or a door. When planing I always use the tail vice and the hand forged dogs that came with the bench. In fact the front vice consists of a wooden screw about 60 mm in diameter and not much else. The tail vice is much easier to use.

@borjesvensson8661

Жыл бұрын

We sure love our tail vices here in sweden. The front vice is not even concidered a real vice by many😄. If i built my own bench it would probably have a scandinavian/german tail vice with 3-5 dog holes and a leg vice as a front vice. (Those things are so much more stable than our front vices that pretty much is for edges of boards and sawing dovetails. But there are so many cheap old benches in good shape around here that there is no need for building a bench.

Thank you.

Great video! Tell us about your machinist’s vise.

Holy crap Rex, I literally was comparing the Yost and Pony last night.

I just finished my moxon vice. I put it on the end of my bench. It's almost 3 feet long. I made it from pipe clamps. And made a quick release also. But my problem is that it racks up and down. Still have not figured out a solution yet

I have a tail vice, but I'm building a new bench ( as I know now what I want and need it will be an English bench ) and......no more tail vice, it's in the way for cross cutting rough stock. The approach of Richard Maguire suit me best in term of high and holding.( I'm preparing rough stock by hand ) Regards from France.

Hi Rex, I watch all of your videos, so thank you. My vise was donated to my shop from the local high school. I don't recall what brand it is, but its a cast iron beast. I love it. It's 10 inches across, and opens 10 inches. Maybe a bit more than I need, but that's OK with me. Keep the great videos coming. Earl Connecticut

Thanks

Love what you do. Off topic but I was taught to always lay my plane on its side when I set it down. Thoughts?

@michaelallenyarbrough9503

2 жыл бұрын

Down. You're less likely to cut yourself. And other tools are more likely to scrape/nick the blade than your wood bench top.

why have i never plane stops outside of your channel? Im definitely puting one in my workbench!

Instead of a tail vise I use a benchdog screw clamp, I rarely use them and they're cheaper so it's good for my needs! Thanks!

@RexKrueger

2 жыл бұрын

I keep meaning to pick one of those up. They seem very nice for the English Bench.

@James_T_Kirk_1701

2 жыл бұрын

Rex I actually use these now. I for a long time did wood working on just a narrow section of bench that was pre built along the wall of a shed I bought. That a 1/8 inch strip of plywood in two dog holes were the only work holding I had. Built a moxon vice especially for dovetails. I really think people don’t know what kind of options they have for work holding because they are just brainwashed into thinking they need a huge bench and expensive vises. You should try one I really like mine. It worked particularly well for me as my work station was very narrow and long. Hard to explain without a photo or two so I will sore you the novel. Nonetheless, your workholding videos are priceless because frustration with holding your work was my biggest issue when starting out.

My buddy got the new 7in carpenters vise from Harbor Frieght ($70). It's a surprisingly well made quick release vise that mimics Yost, and almost 1/2 the price of the Yost! He used the 20% off coupon and made it an even better deal.

Great advise Rex, thank you for sharing. I need to build a workbench and will look deeper into your options. Im limited in space, sharing double car garage with wife’s car. Is there a bench you suggest?

Finished installing the same vise. The instructions are very detailed, and include dimensions for the location of screw and guide rods. I made a template with scrap piece of poplar, sized to jaw face. Using that template over my vice jaw, located the precise center of each hole for drilling the jaw. Installed the vise upside down as you suggested on the bottom side of a 2 inch thick laminated bench top with a 3/4 inch spacer between the benchtop and vice Good vise.

Hey rex, I don't see a video going over exactly what planes you should have as a beginner starting out and like a deep dive on planes, am I missing which video that is or could that be a video in the future?

i have a mechanic's vise screwed into a piece of wood sticking up from my bench, such that the top of the jaws faces the operator horizontally at about chest level that i use for clamping bar stock and round stock in a vertical position while working on their ends (drill, tapping, tapering, ect) i'm curious if there's a wood equivalent that holds long pieces up and down for similar purposes

I haven't started woodworking yet but i was wondering if its possible to build a workbench top without glue or fasteners using dimensional lumber from the hardware store like you use on most of your recent bench builds?

How about a tail vise that doubles as a planning stop? That way no quick release needed- but still have ability if necessary?

Could you turn a face vise on its side, if you awaited a Scandinavian style shoulder vise?

Just after I finished gathering all the supplies needed to build the Quick Stack, Rex tells me I should build a bench without a vice instead. What am I supposed to do with these vices, Rex?! I'm kidding; thanks for the video! It'll be my first workbench, and I was already wondering how to add a plane stop and more holes to it, before I've even built it.

Thanks for the information, Rex. I was wondering if you could speak to face vise positioning? The majority of bench plans in woodworking magazines that I’ve seen over the years tend to position a face vise on the “outside” of a leg, closer the the end of the bench. In recent years we’ve seen where folks like Paul Sellers and Vic Tesolin have their face vises mounted on the inside of the leg, closer to the middle of the bench. Are there advantages to one approach over the other? Thanks, Gene

@RexKrueger

2 жыл бұрын

I think you just really want it close to a leg. Other than that, I'm not sure it matters.

Miami Vise is my favourite 💪🌴♥

You know what would be a kind of low effort but potentially fun video series? Examining some of the big names in wood working, look at one of their youtube videos and see what stuff you think is good or what is outdated or what would be worth replicating. The Paul Sellers woodworking bench from scratch using only hand tools was a cool video series but the bench is...enormous and not really representative of the kinds of benches you see online or even in his later videos. Id love to hear your thoughts on the project.

Very useful. Lots of little things came up that I hadn’t thought about for my future bench. 👌👌👌

Now I need to build that split top 🙈

I recently picked up one of the threaded tail-vise like things that drop into a dog hole. That works pretty well for me for the occasions I want a bit of holding from behind with a dog if my face vise would be clunky. For stops, I screwed a line of heavy wood screws in and counter sunk them. Then I just unscrew a couple a little any time I need a stop of just the width I want. Did a line at the end and a line down the middle. Quick, cheap, and easy and when the hole starts to get worn out I just ream it out, drive in an oak dowel, and put a new screw in that. Bit hacky, but I like the flexibility.

Like the old knight in Indiana Jones say: "Choose visely" (sorry I couldn't let it pass)

I'm working on my modified "Maximum Timber Bench", a combo of Min-Tim/Eng Joiner's. After much deliberation, I thought you may enjoy that my choice of the leg vise, was ultimately decided on one key factor...which vise will hurt less when I inevitably walk into it?

Hello there. Rex I've got a favour to ask. Could you tell me the diameter of the screw and the support rods on your vintage vise. I'm currently working on welding my own vise.

Hey Rex, so about vise’s. For a face vise is a metal jawed version with dog preferable or a cabinetmakers type wooden jaw on moving jaw and bench edge acting as other?

Dear Rex, I build my own tail vise and I don't agree with somethings that you say about tail vises: -I don't have to take out the dogs and constantly move them in and out because I have dogs in every hole that is in the way of the tail vise, and all I have to do is to pop-up the one that is needed and pop it in when finished... And also by having dogs in all the holes, saw dust doesn't fall underneath and it is quite useful if you have an extra shelf underneath like my workbench which stays less dusty... -A tail vise doesn't have to be quick-release. If you have enough holes in numbers, then it is not much of turns on tail vise's wheel. (For instance mine has 10 cm distance between the holes) And additionally, the tail vise is almost only for long wood planning, so it means you don't use it much (as in the front vise), not for cutting pieces obviously, so it means using it less, so no quick release is necessary. And also as the tail vise is at the other side of the table, you have to go to that side of the table to operate the quick release, which is I think is not very practical. (I build a 'bench craft tail vise' , so maybe that style is more practical then the version that you show, I don't know 😊) *But of course a simple planning stop is cheaper, easy to build and still very functional. Just that I don't like the look of them and I find it tiring to lift up the hand plane higher every time I plane to the end. Because you know with tail vise, you can secure the piece and it really helps if you have potential back pain issues, especially when working on number 5 or 6 Stanley planes, which are heavier then number 4. -Especially with wider boards, with a planning stop, you have to move it right to left all the time (unless you have a really wide plane stop) and also you are not able to plane crossly as much as you do in a tail vise. -I also plane a lot of wood that is twisted, so I can not imagine planning them without a tail vise.

An application where a tail vise may be a life saver is sanding cross cut log pieces. (For those that don't have a giant drum sander)

Do you intentionally position the cameras so they shake when you whack the holdfasts while looking really strong? ;D

Awesome, Rex! Thanks a lot for all the tips! 😃 Unfortunately, I can't find any quick realize vises here in Brazil... But as I'm going to work mostly with small stuff... I guess it's going to have to do. 😬 Either way, I'm definitely going to start with a leg vise!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@davidpeters8813

2 жыл бұрын

Jay Bates has a face vise made from pipe clamps - check out his workbench videos from several years ago

@MCsCreations

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidpeters8813 Oh, I've already seen them! 😃 But pipe clamps are kind of expensive down here. 😬

@davidpeters8813

2 жыл бұрын

@@MCsCreations you need to find a friend here in the US who is traveling to Brazil in the next couple of months and they can be your mule. 🙂👍

@MCsCreations

2 жыл бұрын

@@davidpeters8813 That's not a bad idea... At all! 😬

Thanks Rex! Great video. I have been arguing with myself about this very question. I have your Joiners Bench Cut out just need to put it together, but I was debating what kind of vice I wanted. This really helped.

I know that you are not a fan of twin-screw vices; however, I just put a Maxon-type vice on the end of my workbench and so far I'm very happy with it. I set it up with the ability to rack the outside face, so that the screws can be tightened or loosened independently. Since I work mostly with 3/4 in stock, one side of the vice is set to that thickness and I only need to tighten or loosen one screw in most cases. I also use the vice with bench dogs to hold work flat on the bench top.

Awesome info. I've been looking at a vise. I'm so cheap that I just use harbor freight quick release clamps as a makeshift face vise. The clamps actually work pretty well in a pinch, and they can be moved to accommodate weird board sizes.

Instead of a costly tail vice, wouldn't a good alternative be a wonder dog (eg, by Veritas, or alternatives) used with bench dogs (or with a planing stop) to hold down pieces for planing or sanding? Is there any downside to this, in comparison to a tail vice?

is it easy enough to build a stop into the beginner knock down bench?

What about a moxon vice on the face?

So advice on a vise… lol Looking forward to it.

@lincolndickerson1293

2 жыл бұрын

As it turns out, the vise advise was fantastic! Thanks Rex

Absolutely. A basic but well built work bench is an awesome start and will allow one to economically build the rest of the shop.

Another round of sage information