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Ive been working on mine on and off forever. Lots of binding and slop and modifications and wood splitting and rocking and finally wood clamping that pops right out. The original block split when I was cutting in the dado slot for the plastic rail I installed to limit the rocking and twisting. Maybe i just have unreasonable expectations for clamping. I swear to christ i wish i never got it in my head to build this thing lol. Came here for some tips but ive done most of the stuff you did. So frustrating. UPDATE: after I wrote this I went back into the garage and tried one last time and BOOM it worked. Thank the gods.

@rickhayhoe

5 ай бұрын

Thank your perseverance instead.

LH thread would be great for this style so you turn the handle clockwise to advence the wagen.

I appreciate your video and detailed plans. I'm really looking forward to having a reasonable price televise

Thanks I am definitely adding one to my bench.

I ordered the kit as well as a hand wheel and one if those 1" wood owl drill bits. I'll get a whole set if I like it, which I Imagine I will. I noticed today that Harbor Freight has these now (the bits, that is), whatever you think of the Freight co... It is what it is. Always wanted one of these wagon vises, this video really sold me! Thanks man!!

Great outcome for the workbench. I wonder if you could get a left hand threaded rod for this so you can maintain traditional righty tighty lefty loosey operation of the vise.

@JayBates

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure they could be sourced but a reverse thread rod and square nut would increase the cost a bit. No need for that in my opinion.

@jackknows6509

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you saw that as well.

@leeackerson2579

3 жыл бұрын

@@JayBates Actually, a left-handed acme lead screw from McMaster-Carr is cheaper than the comparable right-handed version.

@brucewelty7684

3 жыл бұрын

huh? it looks left handed to me. UNLESS the video is reversed? @8'20" Jay's motion is turning left to tighten

@susantaylor7152

3 жыл бұрын

@@leeackerson2579 but these are not Acme. Acme are much more expensive than standard threads

Hey Jay man. This wagon vise u made look like a very easy install. i HAVE SOME OF THOSE PARTS ALREADY SITTING OUT IN MY SHOP. i8'M KEEPING THEM ASIE UNTIL i FINALLY GET ROUND TO BUILDING A WORKBENCH LIKE THE ONE U HAVE. Great job man. Love the easy of the project. Well u made it look easy I should say..

Glad I ran across this vid, Jay. Will use the Taytools kit and accessories. They're a great outfit.

Great to see a simple kit available at last. A few months too late for my workbench build, I made a mini one from a PoS wood work vice.

I wonder if the sliding block won't start to lean back after some usage, since there's only one nut in the middle that works as a pivot point. 2 bushings on the sliding block might be needed after a while.

Good stuff Jay. Thabks for the post.

Hahaha, “traditional dental work”! Got me laughing out loud on that one Jay! 👍

@doubledarefan

3 жыл бұрын

That was painful.

Nice work, and great result. Its refreshing that you admit where you made a flub and how you corrected it. That happens to everyone, but some would just edit that out. Credibility is more important than perfection.

Great vid! Welcome back... we missed you. LOL

Great Idea! I really like it Greets from Austria!

Nice! Pretty cool and inexpensive solution! Thanks for sharing this! I'm planning on building a new bench sometime here soon and this looks like something I would really like to add to it.

Thanks Jay. This is something I’m planning for my next workbench build. A wagon vise just seems to be really useful in a lot of situations.

Thanks for sharing that!

Thanks for posting

Great video and simple, affordable solution, Jay!

Awsome brother!!!!!

Very good video. I am impressed with your narration and instructional points of any of the projects you do. Keep it up .

Wow, a Sunday morning Jay Bates video - just like the good old days! :) That's pretty cool, Jay. I'll have to do this.

Really missed your wood working vids! Great to see you back!!

Really enjoyed this installation. I have a small shed, filled with my wife's garden stuff, so I watch with envy. P

Cool addition to the workbench Jay and I enjoyed your video. You continue to impress me with the quality of your videos, your work and your honesty as you build. By the way, good to see a guy from Livonia doing so well in the warmer climate .... Go “D” teams!

I'm still waiting to see the wagon!

@johnbesharian9965

3 жыл бұрын

I had one once, but the wheel fell off. Needed one of these to fix it.

Thank you for this video! Stay safe and have a great new year!

Piling on - Dental Work - Laughing out loud, Jay - you made my day, thanks.

Thanks.

Very cool Jay

Awesome! Thanks

We missed you man!

I’ve have been wanting to install a tail vise for a while. I watched a few videos and yours was the most comprehensive. Thank you. Your video was tremendously helpful.

Very cool design and add to ur workbench. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work Jay. Keep Making. God Bless.

Nice 😊

Affordable, easy and efficient : Bravo !

I'm thinking that the gap for the vice could be left open during the building of the bench top so you don't have to cut it out later.

do they have a reverse thread so you can screw handle right to tighten?

Nice build Jay very useful and powerful.

Nice kit and nice addition to the bench.

You really love the Redwings huh? Nice work there.

cool, add more knowledge, greetings from Indonesia ... good luck with your channel

Great video. Taylor Toolworks RULES! Thanks!

cool, thanks

Nice 2A hat

Hmm, would probably be even better if I trim off that corner of the end so that the end block is flush with the end of the bench.

Hey Jay, what are your thoughts on the Taytool Hand Planes?

Excellent addition to the bench. One question, if you reversed the threaded rod, would a clockwise rotation of the "adjustment dial" move the block toward the center of the table? The existing counterclockwise rotation seems backward to me. Perhaps it's just me. Thanks

@davidseslar5798

6 ай бұрын

Reversing the threaded rod does not reverse the thread pitch. One needs a left-hand threaded rod to do this (standard threading is right-handed). A better kit for a non-travelling-rod wagon vise would include a LH-threaded rod and nut with Acme threads for faster vise travel. I'm using the term "non-traveling rod" for this type of design where the block with the threaded nut travels along the threaded rod which rotates in a fixed position in relation to the bench top. The other design type has the rod terminate in the travelling block and has the nut captured into the end cap. In this design, the rod and hand wheel extends out further from the end of the bench as the block is retracted to open the vise.

Love the quick and easy install, however Personally if have made the end plate flush with the end of the bench. That’s probably just my OCD

Great Job!!! Well Done!!! Thank You Jay!!! 👍😎😃✌

Love it!

Amazing! Thanks for sharing!

Great video. Love the hat too! 👍

Great video love it

Very nice 👌. Thanks Jay 😊

Why is the screw not centered on the sliding block?

Take that Lee Valley.

مبدع

Great build.

Quick Q: What's the difference between a Wagon Vice & a Tail Vice?

Thanks for the plans and guide. Fortunately I'm building the bench from scratch and don't have to go through the steps of cutting out the old bench top. I ripped 2x6 stock in half and used the flat edges at the top side. My moving block and gap is 4.5" wide (3 thicknesses of 2x stock) and I have 2 dog holes in the moving block. Doing the construction on a new bench is MUCH easier since I can drill all the holes at the drill press. I made square dog holes in the bench by cutting 3/4" x 3/4" dados in the 2 outer boards taped and clamped together. That gave me 3" between holes. This section of my bench is about 10" wide, so it will go through my thickness planer. I'll be making another half of the bench top with a twin-screw side vise and will have a 1.5: gap between the 2sections to allow for clamps to go through the center - like a Robou bench.

Just so I know, what is the benefit of using this as opposed to just mounting a regular bench vise on the end of the bench that has a little pop-up dog. Won’t that still allow you to pin the work down to the bench to do face work?

Really nice! I have been thinking about a wagon vice for my Moravian workbench, this might be it.

Great bench upgrade. I have forgotten what life was like before having a decent tail vice in my own bench 🤣👍

Eres un maestro, gracias, por compartir

there is one issue with this, you can not clamp a piece of wood against the leg of your table, because your thread is in the way

Great REAL WORLD project here, Jay. I like what you did and how you did it, to the point and no glitzy showy stuff. I use a very similar wing nut (speed handle, some call it) for my carving set ups. I'm almost certain those are made by Peerless (mine are). Jergens and Gibraltar make similar two pronged handles that do the exact same thing but I prefer the Peerless models. If you do any 'clean work' around them (any model) make sure to wipe them down really good and give them a sealer coat of something tough like a flooring poly. They're all cast and the dark zinc/iron surface is never baked in properly, left un-coated that powdery residue will get on your hands and transfer nasty smudge marks onto anything you touch after handling them - clothing, your face, veneers, anything you really really really don't want messed up in any way, it's inevitable. I think they're made with the intention of their being used in machine shops where such cleanliness is thought of as like LOL, RIGHT, SURE, BUDDY, WE'LL GET RIGHT ON THAT by default.

Is there any reason why you didn't cut a recess so the end could be flush? I might have to try this.

@JayBates

3 жыл бұрын

Extra work for no benefit.

Great option for a vise. I think you may have mixed up the grain direction vise block.

How important is it that the vice gap be 2.5 in wide? Is it fine to go wider, like 3in? That way you can just leave a gap of 2 boards in the glueup

really nice job

Excellent!

BRILLIANT!

Uaa as I was going to buy this from Tay Tools until I was the direction of the threads. That’s a no go for me.

I have a wagon vice from a veneer press screw that This would be an improvement on Thanks Jay

please excuse a newbie question but is it off center for a reason?

"Now the part that resembles traditional dental work." 😆

Chévere amigo

Nice job, thanks

Great video. I paused to see what that plane you were using is. Taytools 5½? Is there going to be a review video on that bad boy? It's pretty. I'd like to know how you like it.

I built my bench from your plans but I added a a wagon vise during construction.

Ciao Jay, sei un grande hai fatto un ottimo lavoro, un salutone dall'Italia .-

If an end vice is not an option, I recommend a Veritas "wonder dog". One additional benefit is that you can use it anywhere along your bench whenever convenient, rather than only at the end.

Wonderful video! Is it possible to do this without having to add an end block and just install the wagon handle flush with the end of the workbench? I ask because I'm designing my new workbench and would like to incorporate this from the beginning.

Nice kit, Jay! Thanks for bringing that to us. Is that threaded rod threaded backward? Turning counterclockwise tightens the vise?

@JayBates

3 жыл бұрын

The treads are the regular direction. No need to spend more for reverse threads. It's easy to use.

Very unlike Taylor to send you the wrong screw but it looks like you got a left handed thread. That's why you have to turn the crank counter clockwise to tighten the vise - backwards. Nice build nonetheless.

@JayBates

Жыл бұрын

This isn't the wrong screw. It was the one offered at the time of me building it.

I’ve often wondered if the vice jaw binds in the track, with seasonal movement? My shop is not air conditioned, so thinking a tail vice might be a better option?

Which grade of LOCTITE would you recommend for double prong cast knob?

Just looking over your plans. You list 3/4 screws in the material list for installing drawer slides. Did I miss something or are you just checking to see if people pay attention? lol

@JayBates

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha. I used a template. Might have missed a line to delete. I'll check.

@JayBates

3 жыл бұрын

Fixed. Thanks!

Is there any advantage to this wagon vise over the under-mount quick release vise? It has a place for dogs and do what this one does plus can clamp by itself. Just curious.

@JayBates

3 жыл бұрын

Just another cost effective solution.

Do you have any videos about your drill press table?

Does it spin freely like a Benchcrafted wagon vise? I just installed the Chris Schwarz book/wagon vise and your version seems like a much simpler install.

@JayBates

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. I'll do a follow up video on my blog channel this week.

Why is the vise screw left-hand threaded?

@danrhoades1

2 жыл бұрын

I had the same question

Nice addition to a workbench. You'll wonder why you didn't include it on original build, but you will find it very useful now

Glad to see that hat. ;)

Wondering if you would consider an alternative build similar to the Will Myers Moravian bench where the moving stop is housed in a narrow dado slot and mounted from the bottom?

Is the threaded rod left hand?

@JayBates

3 жыл бұрын

Nope.

Why did you not just add a tail vice with a dog hole in the face block?