PHYSICAL OR MAGIC BANE - WHICH BUILD IS BETTER?
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PHYSICAL OR MAGIC BANE - WHICH BUILD IS BETTER?
Which Build is Better for Bane?
In this video, we test out two different builds for Bane, a unique hero that can deal magic or physical damage. We compare the two builds on basic attacks, skills, and objective control to see which one is more effective.
Physical Build
Items: Demon Hunter Sword, Endless Battle, Berserker's Fury, Blade of Despair, Malefic Roar, Immortality
Pros:
Higher damage output
Better at taking down towers and objectives
More reliable in teamfights
Cons:
More squishy
Less mobile
Magic Build
Items: Lightning Truncheon, Genius Wand, Holy Crystal, Blood Wings, Divine Glaive, Immortality
Pros:
Longer range
More crowd control
More burst damage
Cons:
Lower damage output over time
Less effective at taking down towers and objectives
Less reliable in teamfights
Conclusion
The best build for Bane depends on your playstyle. If you're the type of player who likes to get up close and personal, then the physical build is for you. If you prefer to stay at a distance and poke your enemies down, then the magic build is a better choice.
Ultimately, the best way to decide which build is right for you is to experiment and see what works best.
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Its not which version of bane is better, its rather the different playstyles that u prefer, for physical bane u just play as a burst and up-close fighter. Meanwhile for magic bane, u play as a poker and a teamfight menace with his ult, oh and dont forget u can use his ult to dmg turrets. Thanks to this, playing Bane is very versatile in his roles thanks to being able to switch between physical and magic, if u lack physical, go phy bane and if u lack mage then just go magic bane.
@hase8442
Жыл бұрын
Dont forget full tank bane who can still do good damage up close cus of his buffed passive and 1st skill, so satisfying to see saber, guin and eudora not able to one shot me in a single combo ☕️
@Ornyl
Жыл бұрын
It's the other way, mage bane is burst and physical bane is poke... Mage bane is better against squishy heroes and dps heroes. Physical bane is way better at poking and taking obj, and more versatile..tbh physical bane after the update doesn't need full dmg..so malefic+bod is enough for dmg I guess and 3 dmg items. Mage bane still needs full dmg build but he's real good at bursting squishy and not bad at pushing..and he forces squishies to buy athena and that's a really good thing.
@lass_isolet
Жыл бұрын
phy bane skill 1 is cancer
@anwzdewan6969
Жыл бұрын
@@hase8442 what is your tank build
@cirdeckido
Жыл бұрын
NOPE! Watch the video Closely PHYSICAL BANE IS BETTER AT EVERYTHING! The problem is MAGIC USERS CANT DO BASIC MATH when they see a "Magic" on bane's skill description they didn't consider the PERCENTAGE OUTPUT Of The skill. Banes kit is made to Dominate and Push lanes and that's why moonton made his 2nd and 3rd magic scaling so they can Limit his capabilities Lastly if "MAGIC BANE" is good then how come we've NEVER SEEN PRO PLAYERS USE IT? Because it sucks Period!
Bane has 2 sides: He can be "The Stabber" (physical) Or "The Spitter" (magic) Both is strong and dangerous 🗿
@pogcatban1155
Ай бұрын
What if your go hybrid?💀
@TakemichiSeaki
Ай бұрын
@@pogcatban1155 Captain Bane Reigns Supreme
@Zhi-is-busy
12 күн бұрын
Equal heal and equal damage@@pogcatban1155
Despite having 2 distinct roles for Bane, it's play style is quite opposite to its respective role. Physical Bane plays more like a Mage that pokes from a distance, and Mage Bane plays more of a Fighter for sustaining and healing a lot in the middle of the battle. As for me though, when you use Bane for laning phase, I suggest you'd go Magic Bane to outlast your lane. If you go jungle with Bane, physical damage is the way to go since it clears the jungle and objectives quicker. Thing I love from Bane the most is that you could adjust your build depending on your team's draft, and he could excel. As for the fun factor, Mage Bane is the way to go. Soaking damage and healing most of it by building Full Magic items will leave your opponents in awe.
@hdihiiehei
Жыл бұрын
exactly. phys bane is a poke mage while magic bane is a sustain fighter
@day5833
Жыл бұрын
@@hdihiieheiyeah it's somewhat reverse
@carlosnathanieljannjusonal4826
Жыл бұрын
Is a hyrbird build viable?
@romneckserada3520
Жыл бұрын
how about emblem sir?
@j10ul27
Жыл бұрын
@@hdihiiehei that is a very irony yet funny way to describe. I agree with you. :D
I love this segment of your content. More videos like this
Finally was waiting for this❤ Tysm Elgin
Physical Bane: Poke and Damage basic attack playstyle Magic Bane: Massive Heal, burst and tower push playstyle
@hase8442
Жыл бұрын
Dont forget tank bane who’s an absolute unit
@ratterkin
Жыл бұрын
??? bro phys bane literally 2 shot squishy champ and have more damage to tower conpared to magic bane
@DaniL-ph5ks
Жыл бұрын
@@ratterkin i think he's referring to ult spam when pushing tower
@coldwindfarm1309
Жыл бұрын
@@ratterkin But does phys bane heal half his health in 1 click skill tho?
@ratterkin
Жыл бұрын
@@coldwindfarm1309 so if someone still one shot you is it really matter?
I’ve been waiting for this for a long time 🎉
This is really good content. I commend you Elgin. Thanks!
Thank you for making this video.
Tips: When you use Mage bane, build items that give you more magic power like COD,Lighting Truncheon, Holy Moly Crystal. Blood wings for more movement speed. Divine glaive for magic pen. Enchated talisman to spam his skill even more. Don't build items like glowing wand and genius wand. Since he only have 2 magic skill u can't get full effect of those 2 items.
@Ornyl
Жыл бұрын
And mage bane is best against squishy targets...and most of them are forced to buy athena or they'll be bursted down. But physical bane is more versatile. .but that update on bane was a pure buff on mage bane, as he can push now and not completely useless in early.
@Lordainz67
Жыл бұрын
Any tips on phy build or should just copy elgin build on video
@yuridc1780
Жыл бұрын
I wonder how effective ice truncheon is
Many players fail to realize the benefits Bane gets with Calamity Reaper. Since Bane's tendency after casting a skill is to use a basic attack, he can trigger the true damage from the item quite often. Endless Battle also has the same effect but the scaling in Calamity Reaper is much higher than the scaling in Endless Battle.
@yuridc1780
Жыл бұрын
Yes but that item slot could be used on something that maximize his skills more than the passive he shouldn't be using as a mage build
@GrandChupon
Жыл бұрын
@@yuridc1780 you should almost always be using basic attack though in inbetween skills when fighting heros or minion waves. Forgot to mention it gets a nice bonus from your magic power since the damage bonus is extra magic damage.
@3linkin10
Жыл бұрын
it's a good choice, but i love my 20% cdr book and truncheon, tough choice
@yuridc1780
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it works and it's nice but there is just better item and better heroes to use calamity reaper
@ispeakcockney
Жыл бұрын
Bane's core items are clock and holy crystal. Clock has to pair with lightning truncheon for annoying 1st skill. If you want to push with Bane, you have to buy fleeting time for more ult. You definitely want to counter any athena with divine glaive. So yeah, there's no room for calamity
I play bane using hybrid. I build him with endless battle and bod or sea halberd(if enemy is regen type) in the early game since physical is strong in the early game. Then I build calamity reaper, holy crystal and blood wings next for insane heal and ss damage. His passive along with the 2 true damage item is insane. I get about 800+ true damage using this build.
@saybeesh
Жыл бұрын
Wait what
@kierzsenpai3542
Жыл бұрын
Hmm interesting thanks for sharing
@waitwhat7736
Жыл бұрын
@@kierzsenpai3542 no worries. And use mystery shop as emblem since those items are pricey
@geraldwiedemann2126
Жыл бұрын
using this now. thank you 🍻
@s3a.w
5 ай бұрын
does this still work with the current patch?
Nice i need this vid to try current Bane
Gracias, muy buena explicación
Teacher hanzo back at it again Im watching this in school right now
It differs cuz there's the case that there's alot of magic dmg in ur team and u wanna build physical damage so that Athena won't affect u and vice versa
Thank you for bane guide
One thing to mention is that lightning truncheon can actually proc by his 1st skill. So a little compensation for the 1st skill mage build.
@irulannaba6970
10 ай бұрын
Yeah but it doesnt sync well with the skill. The bounced bullet is what hurt not the target of your skill. So the truncheon damage only applies to your targetted bullet (meaning the tank/minion/whatever) not the back line heroes
First ( jokes aside, I do prefer the old Bane 😂
@somerandomperson6066
Жыл бұрын
Which old version??😂
@siomai._.9951
Жыл бұрын
the chasing ult is very nice
@GoldenUndrowler
Жыл бұрын
@@somerandomperson6066 huge passive range and a Circle that follows the enemies and turrets
@exisemob
Жыл бұрын
You aren't wrong the old ghost pirate bane that is exactly what most of us want
@blackadam4064
Жыл бұрын
The one with 200-250% damage passive
Physical Bane is more of aggressive style with some poke and can clear objectives faster. While Magic Bane is more of a team playstyle since his ult and 2nd can hit multiple targets, you can also distance yourself if needed
@iregretlife
Жыл бұрын
To sum it up Physical is meant to be an agressive play style Mage is for patience since the ult is slow
Physical Build Bane is much more fun to use for me because of Bane's first skill which can delete mm or mage at the back, which is quite enjoyable.
Magic bane has burst damage from Ult and Skill 2 and also have insane heal.(1k heal per 3 seconds is no joke.) But if he missed his skill. He is sitting octopus. On the other hand with physical build his poke damage from skill 1 and passive is stronger. What u need to do is spam your skills and use the passive. You won't get lots of heal but you can destroy turrets faster. Whatever build you use, keep in mind that Bane is a lategame hero so you should focus on not dying and farming. Destroying turret should be your first priority. Build according to your team's line-up.
@omnirico
Жыл бұрын
Early game physical bane is pretty strong. Can go toes to toes with exp laner. Just poke them if they try to freeze your lane. If they manage to hide in bushes just last hit minnion with first skill. I actually can win a fight with freya and alpha early game with physical bane.
@gameoflife9147
Жыл бұрын
Magic bane also have slow effect on his 1st skill..
having slow on the cannon from percentage of magic power is a huge advantage for magic bane in teamfights, chasing and escaping becomes much easier, and the lack of cannon damage can be offset with lightning truncheon which is almost always used in magic build, the new passive makes physical bane feels somewhat weaker in teamfights (you don't hit tanks or frontliner fighters up close with a squishy full damage hero build, you'll get squashed and pinned down for the rest of the enemy team to finish you) but seems there's something going on with it, like how the % hp damage doesn't trigger spellvamp but it triggers lifesteal instead, i might want to try if it works with crits too
From my own stand of point, i played bane since season 19 and until now and have supreme title and I prefer phy bane cus of its usefulness and the ability of the cannon makes it able to poke and deal extremely high damage
@gameoflife9147
Жыл бұрын
but magic bane have slow effect on his cannon..
@yuridc1780
Жыл бұрын
Have you tried mage tho?
@yuridc1780
Жыл бұрын
I too play bane, I have tried all roles and build for him including semi tank magic bane which is what I mostly use currently
The game is very good, I hope I get noticed like you❤️
Another Underrated way of doing bane is going hybrid this also depends on what defensive items the enemy is going for. Emblem Setup: Support Emblem|Talent Distribution: 3/3 Boots 3/3 Pen+Avarice (This emblem has Hybrid penetration) Builds:Arcane Boots or Magic Shoes|Clock of Destiny|Hunterstrike or Waraxe|Lightning Turcheon|Blade of Despair|Divine Glaive or can Swap DG with BoD depends on how u like it but its a 2 way balanced build as i like to call it! U can try it for fun yourself note i mostly use this in exp as avarice helps alot in the lanning phase since 1st/2nd skill can grant u that +10 gold per hit(4s cooldown)
The insult that Magic Bane can give to an enemy who threw all their skill on him only for him to recover back half his HP with one skill
PD: You don't need to Charge 2nd skill while pushing turrets, it's only for extra damage on enemies
Video Idea i always wonder if tank build or magical build is better for support heroes
An interesting build i found was mage/tank, just build clock pf destiny, lightning truncheon, oracle, antique quirass and blood wings He will have really high healing, decent damage from passive and skills + be very tanky and hard to kill
@yuridc1780
Жыл бұрын
That's what I'm doing, although what I use is tenacity, warrior boots, COD, Talisman, Oracle, Holy crystal, blood wings.
@UnknownUser049
Жыл бұрын
@@yuridc1780I use the mana boots, talisman,holy Crystal,ice wand, brute chessplate and oracle, to annoy the enemies, I can replace oracle with cod,Hunter strike or Fleeting time Which is very annoying for enemies, Both fast and slow down enemies
I finally made the balance build of bane and this is the item you're going to use magic shoes,endless battle,genius wand,war axe,blood wing and immortality this item wasn't effective before but now it's very effective.
Depends on preference to imo
I already mostly main Magic Bane since with clock of destiny and holy crytal, he's basically A burst that can kill all squishys, with 2nd, flicker, ult, then 2nd again to any of them, also, the heal is OP XD
3:42 and I took that personally.
can you do karrie next attack speed or crit build
What each build excels at Magic:burst dmg can turn the tides of team fights from a distance but weak melee dmg Physical:poke dmg only,weak heal but first skill dmg,the passive carries the physical build
I choose hybrid. Just full physical dmg and pen 1st 3 items aside from boots then have bloodwings as last item both good for hp, magic damage and heal for 2nd skill. Then also provide movement spd for additional mobility
I've never played Bane but i feel like Physical is better for him from personal experience of getting deleted because of his 1st skill Especially when it bounces, my hp just gets melted and he doesn't really need to reach you if you're under tower, he just uses ult or 1st skill on the minions and you'll guaranteed to take damage
Need more heroes like him
I use the magic Bane not only because of the amount of HP Regen that he can benefit but also because of the extra HP that you can get from the magic items. Also, his ultimate can easily wipe out the enemies when you’re helping your teammates on a team fight
@ramramvanilla8738
Жыл бұрын
in addition you cannot easily get drained with mana if you go with magic bane with clock of destiny. Compared to phys that you need to recall again to gain back mana.
@hensongualberto1755
Жыл бұрын
@@ramramvanilla8738 definitely. That’s the item that I build after Arcane Boots so I won’t run out of mana easily, then I build Calamity Reaper for True Damage, cool down reduction, and mana regen
For me tbh, becuz of the new update, i started to take the tank build oute cuz of his new passive and 1st skill..also phy.bane is good but its most downsides is that the moment you ran out of skills to cast, it becomes one of the advantages of the enemy same as mage bane...so i as a bane main, i now prefer to build him full tank build or hybrid build like 3 physical build and 2 magic build to be enough for poking and bursting enemies...
This dose make bene very versatile i like it
I like to go crazy with mage bane. I go for 2 or 3 Blood Wings to reach 1000+ magic damage. It feels awesome to kill people with his skill 2 and ult. Sometimes I also end up being a front liner even with a full magic build because of the insane heal and less than 2 sec cooldown of skill 2.
@markangelogarcia2584
Жыл бұрын
2 is enough on late game i replace boots with talisman i dont use divine glaive since the only hero tht can withstand mge bane combo is a tank
Lol I've been spamming tank build Bane and it's just my favorite one right now jsjs
Adding a comment based on a Reddit post I saw yesterday : "Mana boots. Clock. Holy crystal. Blood wings. Another Bloodwing. One more Bloodwing. This is the way" And boy does he sustain in every team fights! 1600 heal every 2 seconds, he does almost the same with his ultimate. I prefer his magic build now.
It depends how you play bane with different type of playstyle, even though bane mage build can be helpful and same with the traits physical build..
honestly it depends on game mode. i've always using physical build on brawl match and mage build on ranked and classic.
*Me builds a tank build* There is three, actually
When I play bane as the jungler, I always choose jungle emblem with hybrid and cd BS. My items would be penetration items, BOD, and magic item with percentile or blood wings. The damage of both physical and magic are really good on enemies, jungle camps, and tower push. (items: boots, BOD, heptaseas, malefic, divine g, holy crystal or blood wings) ps. just sharing🙂
@tahayusufyagmur
Жыл бұрын
bod malefic holy and divine plus immortality much better imo
Give the Unpopular Heroes some spotlight also. Ex. Hanzo: Which is better Crit build or the Trinity Attack SPD build.
@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger
Жыл бұрын
I dont remember his skill 2 dealing crit dmg which is his main dmg
@lowrence5579
Жыл бұрын
@@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger You can cancel Hanzo's second it's just a Gap closer, With his Basic atk you can 3 shot any squishy hero.
@Valome_Virtual_Gravedigger
Жыл бұрын
@@lowrence5579 oh ok Wait how short is his basic attack again
Yoo elgin ❤
I use Calamity Reaper on Bane after Clock of Destiny, his basic attacks (especially with Passive) deal high amounts of damage without defense stopping it as it is True Damage. He has a crazy amount of sustain as well with Concentrated Energy and Queen's Wings, not even Anti-Heal can stop his sustain. Only Heavy CC can shut him down. Heck, I don't even use boots on Magic Bane. If you're wondering, Full Build is: Clock of Destiny Calamity Reaper Holy Crystal Concentrated Energy Blood Wings / Divine Glaive Queen's Wings / Oracle
How about natan? What is the best build for him rn?? And also the emblem?
Why dont you try hybrid build? Physical + magic item? Thanks
Magic Bane seems strong even in Jungle. But i just love the bouncing Bullet kills on Physical Pen Build Bane. It's so satisfying especially on Brawl.
I still love the arrival bane with mix physical and magic game play xD
i use hybrid tank/magic build. which has either debuff item or buff item. Bane is good at supporting in the back line when the enemy is tanky but if the enemy is squishy i play bane as a physical attacker.
Question: would buying holey crystal just be better than buying genius wand? I just the other magic pen item and then holy crystal when I play mage bane
I always go with a semi tank mage bane for survivability and decent sustain and damage on multiple target
Bane with magic is for one shot and physical is for per minute sec but bane can heal alot in magic too so it's op he can spam the venom spit ability that deals a lot of damage and heal
I do hybrid build for bane and it works pretty fine
Test roger full crit and full penetration when the next update comes Both builds get affected quite heavily once its online
Zilong crit vs trinity build + penetration is next???
vale, damage 2nd vaccum ss, vs fly 2nd burst ss and difference between blue and red first skill :) thank youu
I use hybrid build with bane. Bod, blood wings, hunter strike, genius wand,and holy crystal
That buff on his passive is very useful for us mage bane users we can now easily push and kill lord/turtle. I didn't try physical bane i always spam mage bane... I'll try physical one hope it bounce to the right target
Next please natan i dont know which more powerful in natan physical or magical
btw bane second skill scaleup with time so you should use it before it end for full advantage
Not having a Hybrid build option thats a combination of both is unfortunate. That's what I wanted to see
As a hybrid bane player, I see this as an absolute win
It's my new hero I got about 80 matches with him , canon is definitely dirtiest thing I ever seen that's why I love Bane I hope he gets me to another Myth lvl this season 🎉
can you try Mage and Physical Natan?
You missed third bane variety and it's called tank bane. As for magic build, I was using that before last update in almost all matches but after update i use more physical and tank bane. Reason for not using magic is nerfed healing comparing to before. Reason to use physical bane is double splash damage on first skill. And reason to use tank bane is hp based damage of enemy on passive
what does hybrid do with endless battle and calamity reeaper?
Now that bane's passive is hp based,when i use it in either exp or jungle,i make the enemy heroes like minions
I wonder what will happen if you combine physical and magic items with him.. is the emblems Also applicable?
Honestly the only problem with the magic ban is that you need to charge the second skill to get maximum damage.
I always use Physical Mixed With Magic, so like I add normal magic Items and I add some physical Items
How about for lesley assassin build and markmens build
I love your accent😂😂. Where r u from?
Hii can u try esmeralda mage build vs tank build
Compare Assassin franco like kenzy style or normal tank franco.
next video do harley please
Can you do Aldous full DMG build vs full defense build
Can you try a hybrid build on it.
Next 4 different kind of Edith full Deffense item, full HP item, full Magic item, or full Physical item..
One thing that is insanely overlooked is his 2nd skill deals AOE thus overall higher dmg in teamfights mid to late game, not to mention he heals 3x more with magic build build making him a great poker/reaper but I still love having the option of making physical when my teams has enough sustain heros, bc physical bane while dealing more dmg 1v1 also dies faster. All in all I still orefer magic build despite the small nerfs and drawbacks since I only olay solo queue and can't rely on teammates
@FilipinoPride10
Жыл бұрын
Whats the nerf?
@schopenhauer5427
Жыл бұрын
@@FilipinoPride10 they reduced the magic scaling of his ult, it now deals more DMG with physical builds (used to be 50/50, on the other hand his 2nd skill now has higher magic scaling and lower physical scaling. I've done over 3k with his 2nd skill, that's insane. And all that is AOE
I was planning to test for Bane how about 3 item magic and 3 item physical with mage emblem. In the late game, it's always physical potion because of the huge. As expected, Bane getting to strong after the build physical and magic at the same time.
@muhammadalifmulkymurtadha4493
Жыл бұрын
so how's the result of your test?
@pramudyaananta6271
Жыл бұрын
The result it's too strong for him. Gladly, moonton finally nerf him because of the new passive and the other skills. Every player always pick bane explaner/jungler/roam in different roles.
@irulannaba6970
10 ай бұрын
Terlalu late game klo mau main hybrid. Susah mid gamenya
I use bane depends on the enemy, if i choose to a bit sustain and big phisical attack, i choose hybrid but expensive build (BOD, Malefic Roar, Hunter Strike, Devine Glave and Blood Wings)
@lclt55555
Жыл бұрын
Split damage is usually a bad idea considering the heroes have innate physical and magic resistance
i prefer mix build, i usually build a boot, 2 physical item, magic item : holy crystal/blood wings,icequeen wand, burning wand,)
We can use mage empure rage for mana sustainability and magic power and full physical build. i will try the effect later on classic
Mage vs Tank Alice, Johnson. Burst vs Cooldown Nana. Magic vs Tanky Rafaela (and other healers)
can you do masha next? tank item masha vs attackspeed masha
@gameoflife9147
Жыл бұрын
my build is; Rapid boots, Corrision Schyte, Cursed Helmet, Guardian Helmet, Brute Force, Twilight Armor, (Queens wings/Immortallity cycle)
My bane magic build is as follows: Magic shoes > COD > LT > Holy Crystal > Calamity Reaper > Blood Wings My emblem: Mage Mastery +5% CDR Catastrophe +5% Magic Power Talent: Bargain Hunter The thing i like about this build is it gives 1000+ true damage from calamity reaper if you have full build+Magic portion which kinda makes up for the penetration and it will also make his passive useful and the slow from 1st skill will reach 90%+ slow effect and will get 40% CDR reaching his max potential. You guys should try this build
Next Esme physical or Magic Or kimmy Phy or Mag PLIZ 😢❤
i prefer bane being a hybrid (physical items like BoD, Endless, and Hunter Strike with two magic item like holy crystal and blood wings and when i remove the boots i usually purchase frozen truncheon)
derroth berst or sustain build next
I prefer Tank with Talisman for mana regen + spam of 2nd to sustain.
My idol elgit legit I now know how to bane
@ferret5233
Жыл бұрын
Wow
@ferret5233
Жыл бұрын
He's legit 😊😊
I guess imo I will use Mage Bane as Sidelaner and Physical Bane as Jungle Reasons only being Mage can heal himself better and healing self isn't really needed for junglers But vice versa is also possible (if taking the cost of items into consideration, physical bane is more cost efficient than mage bane)