Photography in the Old West
Photographers in the era of westward expansion
NOTE: Exposure times could also be shorter than stated in the video. The two tintypes i have been in (in video) took about 15 seconds to expose. However, many sources say it was commonly done with less time.
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Just a note, the exposure times by the frontier period were less than depicted in the video. "30-40 seconds" was just for the skit.
@mdj.6179
3 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the light!
@tawumpas
2 жыл бұрын
Y'all made me giggle with him jumping out 🤣 cheesy by I can see you both having fun
Freeze? But I didn't bring a jacket! Hahaha!!!🤣🤣
Santee you are the greatest! This was another home run. I would love a tin type photo!
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Brendan.
A short story that my dad told me about his father, my grandfather. Dad had a letter that he had sent to his family with a photo and in the letter he told of going to get this photo. Grandpop had scraped and saved for a long time to get the " dollar " it cost and when it was done the photographer said, okay that'll be one dollar..... and three cents ! Grandpop said that he did not have the three cents and had to find someone to borrow it ! Dad told me that happened in 1887 and for the rest of grandpops life anytime someone wanted to take his picture, he would ask " what's it gonna cost me " ! 😊 Dad also said that grandpop mentioned more than a few times that he should have just took out his colt and shot him ! THAT'S MY FAMILY !! 😁 Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍
@ArizonaGhostriders
4 жыл бұрын
Great history there. Thanks!
Liked at 223 the pocket watch is really ticking, well done on old time photography, very informative. Keep up the great vids
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the sucker still works well for being 1882
Great job, Santee! Nice pic of Ed Schieffelin, founder of Tombstone, at 2:50. When Schieffelin when prospecting alone in Apache territory, his friends said "The only thing you'll find out there is your tombstone." So his first strike, he named the mine the Tombstone, and the name stuck. But Santee, I'm sure you knew that already!
Hey Santee Bac jack is truly blurred! Some folks do not stand still in front of camera! 😃 see y'all down the trail.Great job no more no less...has ever.Thanks
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@victorwaddell6530
5 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders Bat was squirming like a worm on a hook .
This video is awesome, as usual. Interesting stuff there about the photography. I have a couple of tin type photos of my grandparents. Thank you!
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
A few notes from a pro for 21 years. Photos were so expensive in the old west because whether they were on tin or glass;All required silver to produce the image. The extended time it took to get a clear image was one of the reasons why the only "good" photo of so many was their death picture. Thanks for your work.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Correction, though: The metal was thin iron and no tin was involved in the process. Funny, I was trying very hard to find a blurry tintype that I've seen so many of....but couldn't find one when I needed it for the video! Drat.
Yep, Old West photography was quite a process. Jerry & I can tell you the process we learned using Dektol, Microdol, & D76 but this was a lot more difficult. Great episode! Hahaha. The blooper with Batjack was great!
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
Very cool. My daughter was just asking why all the old pictures of the pioneers and homesteaders were absent any sort of smiles. This lets her hear a less bumbling explanation about the process 🤠
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Lots of old pics around to collect. Great video you did on how they were made 150 years ago.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
The old time photography was used for the tourists who came to Henry Ford's Greenfield Village. It was discontinued after 1980 because of the chemicals that were used. They use to demonstrate how they developed and photographed the person. Thanks for sharing 👍 😊!
@ArizonaGhostriders
2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
I noticed that Jerry has a Gumby and a Pokey figurine in his office. I didn't know you could get those anymore, but I'm glad he did. Nothing says the old west like Gumby and Pokey... ;)
@ArizonaGhostriders
4 жыл бұрын
He has a lot of interesting and fun doo-dads in his office.
Thank you for another great video. Not only are your videos always informative and interesting, the editing and flow perfect.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
The skits have only gotten better, I love Santee and crew.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy them.
I love the old time photos. And this was really interesting learned a lot of new stuff didn't know before. Thank you again 🤠🌵
@ArizonaGhostriders
2 жыл бұрын
So glad!
I recently sat for some plate photos. It was a long session, the photographer would take 4 pictures in a row then rush to the dark room before taking the next set. She was developing negatives on paper, but when processed into positives they looked amazing. The trickiest part was taking the actual photo as sometimes she forgot to warn me when she took the lens cap off.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
I mean sometimes I want to go back in time but then I remember how hard it was for them to survive that time, awesome video.
@jordanhicks5131
5 жыл бұрын
Did you ever find lenny?
@romanbowler8754
5 жыл бұрын
jordan hicks Yes partner, in heaven I sure did.
On a side note, the “C.S. Fly Photography Studio” shown in this video is where the Gunfight At The OK Corral actually took place. (OK Corral sold more books, movie tickets, etc. than “Gunfight At The Photography Studio”.)
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Yes. It was in the alley between two buildings. One of them was Fly's.
Fantastic video Santee. I've delved into photography (some) since I was in high school back in the mid 1960's. Oh yeah, many things have changed since then, we're experiencing a whole new "frontier" in picture taking. It was good seeing Batjac JW in the skit. Thanks for sharing another great video with us. Stan
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it.
Awesome! I have a tin type of one of my father's relatives with that same red felt frame! I'm guessing they were pretty standard back then. Now I just need to figure out why I want a Floridora Cigar so bad... (and i'm not kidding !!! ha ha ha) thanks so much Cheese !
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's great stuff. I think back then it was about .25 per copy. Maybe less.
WOW! As someone who enjoys black and white film photography I would love to see a piece on the old photography you mention in this video.
@ArizonaGhostriders
4 жыл бұрын
Sure!
Very cool Santee love this one!!
Great job once again. I look forward to the next one. =)
Wizards putting people's souls into paper
@tawumpas
2 жыл бұрын
Plankton🦠: CORRECT!
Santee, great and hilarious episode. I so look forward to these videos. Thanks Amigo.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Ralph! I look forward to making 'em.
What a flash back!
Well it's 5PM in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. Also yes a episode on photography in the Old West. Awesome.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Mirokuofnite
5 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@alexs5744
5 жыл бұрын
Uzbekistan is actually a country I like to visit.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
@@alexs5744 Wonder what the food is like.
@alexs5744
5 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders Russian, Asian and Persian influence so I can imagine it's exotic.
Great video as usuall - just love the historical aspect of them :D Great work :)
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
yay!
Great video and as always educational and fun . Old West history at its best. I'll get out there one of these days.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you much!
Thanks to you I learn a lot of the real old west! Keep continue the good work. Greetings from the Netherlands
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that comment very much!
Excellent episode on old school photography that’s how I started off very cool
the editing and special effects are really well done and used!
@ArizonaGhostriders
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Loving the videos! This was very interesting.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Great, Eric. Thanks for watching!
Great video as always.. Thanks for remembering.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
You got it.
Best picture of BacJack I’ve ever seen 👍🏻🤠
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for him to see it.
Great video Santee!
Too much flash powder 😂 Great video! Thank goodness for cell phone cameras. I'm way too lazy for the other lol
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah! It's ok.. me too.
Great video, Santee 😊👍🏻 Be careful with the flash (gun) powder, Santee 📷💥🤕 Awesome idea to make an interview with a photographer! Looking forward to the video 😊
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
This is so cool. I love photography and learning how it was done in the past. It should make everyone appreciate what we have now.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is neat to learn the old ways!
Another great start for me my day
You guys need a program on The History Channel! You guys make learning fun!
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. They won't return my calls. HA!
Nice video chaps, keep up the wonderful work
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Great stuff guys !
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
blasted youtube switched up my recommended forgot about your stuff but good now I got two months of videos to watch soo
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
This is a great show!
@ArizonaGhostriders
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
The one dislike if from the guy who used too much flash powder. Another excellent upload. I was really curious about this. Thank you.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
One day I'll do one on the actual process...with a pro!
Santee,Next can you do dueling or ummm i dont know the most famous lawman and outlaws i already know some From Faraday doc holliday
Hey Santee I'm now seeing this video. This is something I really wanted to know about i will add this video to my photo website
Never ceases to mesmerize my attention when one of your productions is on. Another outstanding job Arizona Ghostriders, ...bully, bully good
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
You da man, Rusty!
@jerseyred9554
5 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders Nah, ..... appreciate the sentiment brother. I'm just a guy born 100 years too late,... but fortunately was able to find like minded folks, like yourself
Arizona Ghostriders, Before the crystal type they used a shadow box too. Many years ago my oldest son & I got our's taken with one. It was still in working condition which made it even a cool treat. But no I didn't wear one of those fancy lady getups...dusters, hats shot gun & pistil & we was set. Man do we still to this day treasure that picture. Blessings
@ArizonaGhostriders
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Oh! Finally an episode I can get behind... er, in front of!! 🎥 🤠
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
HA! Just don't get over-exposed to it.
Great video as usual :)
During the 150th anniversary of the trans-continental railway celebration here in Old Sacramento pictures were taken with cellphones. I was thinking the historic re-enactors deserve historic photography!
@ArizonaGhostriders
3 жыл бұрын
HA! Cool, though
@utej.k.bemsel4777
2 жыл бұрын
Well, you can photoshop these pictures into the old sepia tinted ones. My friends daughter did that with a picture with me wearing my american native outfit. I looks quiet impressing! Like i lived 150 years earlier.
This video should have been a SNAP to make!!
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
It was, and I got to EXPOSE you all to history.
Another outstanding video! One interesting thing I see in far too many movies and TV shows is the photographer using a view camera, putting his head under the cloth to get the composition and focus right in the ground glass on the back of the camera, then put the lens cap on the lens, then put the film plate in (which blocks the light from hitting the ground glass), and then go back under the cloth to make one final check, which is impossible because the cap would be on the lens, and the film plate would block any light that might possibly come through. This is something that, once you know it, you will notice it as well.
@ArizonaGhostriders
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I'll have to look more carefully.
Fun to watch. I actually do this stuff. A word about flash powder, it was in use from the 1880's to the 1920's, and not really used outdoors if there is enugh light during the day and mostly in doors for photographing indoor views such as large rooms or group shots in a theater etc. Exposures could be made in a few seconds for a tintype or ambrotype but a glass negative required at least twice the exposure, all depending on the size of the lens opening and amount of light available. An instantanious shot could be made with collodion but it is tricky and result in an over or under exposure since the the exposure was made by removing and replacing the lens cap by hand, but there where shutters used for outdoor scenes some times.
@ArizonaGhostriders
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info from someone who does it. That gives the audience extra stuff they can investigate in case they are interested!
@kpkndusa
4 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders Your'e welcome.
Great video Santee
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it!
3:26 ~ Modern-day SOG knife clip spotted in Santee's pants pocket. Likely a SOG Flash, or Flash II.
@ArizonaGhostriders
2 жыл бұрын
Good catch!
Another AWESOME video ! :-)
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much.
I think it was forbidden to smile in pictures back in the day! I look at 19th century pictures like the ones you showed because I find them interesting. I never noticed that they used props.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
It's because nobody had any teeth! LOL!
Thanks Santee (top dog)you make perfect video's!😄
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated, Samuel!
Interesting stuff Santee
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Love the video!
@ArizonaGhostriders
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
Very cool history!👍🏾😀❤️🇺🇸
Nice one!
Howdy Santee. Great video
Do you think you could make a video about dressing the part of the mountain man? Or maybe just a video about the mountain men in general. That would be very interesting.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
I did one on Buckskin clothing just a few episodes ago. The Mountain Man era was before the period we know as the Old West, but I"ll touch on it in other videos.
Educational and funny, love it.
@ArizonaGhostriders
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Do bicycles in the old west
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
OK
Your videos are just outstanding! Hey mister Santee I was wondering why so many of these old west photos no one is smiling could it be the respect that they had for this art form if you know please let me know.
@ArizonaGhostriders
4 жыл бұрын
There are a couple things attributed to it. Long exposure times and smiling don't always go together (blurriness) and they also took it seriously, considering smiling to be "silly"
@bigbill2444
4 жыл бұрын
As Santee says, photography back then was serious business. It was expensive and time consuming (not just the time in front of the came a, but the time spent just getting ready). Smiles just weren't serious enough. Remember, for most people, especially away from the East Coast, a photograph (not 'photo') was a once-in-a-lifetime thing.
@joeayala4812
4 жыл бұрын
@@bigbill2444 thank you sir for the info I really appreciate it.
Fantastic episode!!👍👍 That would be cool to have an actual tin type photo taken! It would definitely look a lot better than with the sepia filter that’s used now a days. 34,000 subscribers! Wow your channel has really grown! Keep up the good work 👍👍👍👍👍
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Dan!
Nice Santee. BATJAC was very photographic too, san's chew tabaca.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he was really into that chaw.
Fascinating...I want to do this now!!!
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Contact Will Dunniway and get his expert tutelage.
@FutureRailProductions
5 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders I'll consider it.
loved it :)
Thanks Santee ! Ive seen old photos of deceased outlaws taken after they had met the end of their careers in crime . I reckon a corpse makes for a really steady subject to take a picture of . LOL !
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they didn't move too much!
The long exposer is often sighted as a reason people seem so grim and serious in most of these photos as holding a convincing smile for 30 seconds or so is problematic
@ArizonaGhostriders
2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
2:04 hey a picture of my great grandfather
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool!
Nice information
there’s an infamous picture from 1865 of huge crowd featuring including two important people, one was blurry and the other wasn’t. one posed while the other was going about his activities as normal the people? Abe Lincoln and John Wilkes Booth. JWB posed as he saw the camera.
@ArizonaGhostriders
3 ай бұрын
I'll have to find that.
@bostonrailfan2427
3 ай бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders it was the second inauguration in March 1865
Hello from Romania 🇷🇴
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Salut!
Some people back in the day were scared that the photograph would take their soul away
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Only the weirdos! HA!
Great video. Awesome history. Funny & informative. Kick that nasty habit of chewing tobacco. Lol
Hey, Santee! How about a video on veterans of the Civil War and Indian Wars and any organizations they had in the old west?
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Sounds good!
Nice!
Fun stuff.
very intresting video
Yay - Batjac is back! Nicely informative and entertaining video, y'all. That poster in y'all's office that features "101 Uses for Jerry's Hole" is kind of disturbing...
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
You should read it.
@RaasAlHayya
5 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders - I'm trying, but even with my big monitor and my reading glasses the rest is kind of blurry...buffet? butter? Beuller?
Hey Santee! I'm moving to Arizona in a few months... can you do a video on how to get involved in Old West living history?
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
I'll do my best! Welcome (early)!
Dear Santee, can you do a top 10 western series?
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Yes! In the works. Thanks!
@tordkristiankaroliussen9719
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks it would be interesting
At the state Fair in my state of South Dakota the fair aways has a old West style cam place. don't know if they use the old process or not but who knows.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Most places have all the outfits and props and just process in black and white or sepia.
Santee, How about one on engravings and carvings on weapons?
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Yes!
There is a photo of cowboy having a shave in barbershop with a colt in hand with a tough eye expression with the barber on is side! Ground breaking pose ! Hollywood didn't exist back then, but if did well...
@tarnishedknight730
5 жыл бұрын
That may have been inspired by how an outlaw or two ended up gettin turned in for the reward money by an opportunistic barber who gave them a bit too close of a shave. So it is rumored that outlaws (and law abiding men) would keep a loaded gun in their hand while getting a shave.
2:15 perfect example as to why they were tilted back
@ArizonaGhostriders
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Greetings from Ireland. Great one, very interesting. How about doing one on road traffic accidents, I'll bet they were gorey.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea, Bernard. A famous gunfighter lost his life when he fell off the wagon and got crushed by the wheels.
Santee was there such thing as a portable camera. Not to small. But could be carried in a satchel or something? By the way have u ever seen the first video of all time? Check it out. See you down the dusty trail.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
That Ambrotype camera I showed with the accordion-looking thingie could collapse and was considered portable.
Great video Santee keep it up and also can I take a picture with dirty dan?
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
HA! Yes.
A very interesting episode, I've actually tried making flash powder for a buddy of mine, to use as special effects in his short films.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
Cool! How did it work out?
@vikingshaman3079
5 жыл бұрын
Pretty good, burned out a little too fast though, so we had to use slightly over-sized charges.
@ArizonaGhostriders
5 жыл бұрын
@@vikingshaman3079 I bet it was fun.
@vikingshaman3079
5 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders Oh, yeah. Lots !!!