I read about this..the fluctuation is actually good for the plants. As you know, certain elements are able to be absorbed by the plant at different ph levels. The flux allows your plants to get the full spectrum available to it. 5.8 is just the level where most elemental absorption happens. Great video as always Dusa. Edit: if I had watched the video all the way through...Dusa states this ✊🏼

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! And appreciate it fam

@casenlemafe1375

Жыл бұрын

good news

@bbltd.3154

8 ай бұрын

Crap grows in the water. Infections... root rot... etc are a product of not lowering your ph... some tips to keep in mind. 1. Ph your water BEFORE ADDING NUTRIENTS. Wait two hours after adding nutrients, re ph down to desired level. And check ph once a day. 2. Do not use lemon or vinegar as su statutes for ph down. This is only good for a temporary solution until you get real ph down solution. Real ph down solution has something called a buffer, which holds the ph down. Lemon and vinegar do the opposite of buffer. Happy gardening.

Thanks Dusa. Simpler has been better for me this current run. I’ll continue to simplify.

Makes sense. When I feed with coco, I alternate Ph every feeding. Feed at 5.8, 6.0, 6.2, and repeat. And I rarely have to go above 500 PPM in DWC since its efficient and nutrients are easily available.

Definitely good video, as always great content

Dope video! Thanks

Love the video, and some great information about pH, I use Advance Nutrients PH Perfect, not had one issue, Thank you for all the information you provided to everyone, lots of RESPECT FROM THE UK 🇬🇧

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the support fam 🙌

Just got a new subscriber!!

Thanks bro. I needed this video

Love the video never done DWC I do soil all the time all organic never really worried about the pH is low as it was between 5.8 and 6.8 I was good And whatever works for you might not work for somebody else . Right on ❤😎

Thank you DF!!

The water here will jump from 5.8-6 to way out of range. Up as high as 8. Not sure this would work in our area with tap water.

I use pool ph up and down for my outside vegetable garden. Never had any problems saves so much money. $10 for a bag I have used one bag for two seasons and I still have plenty.

I start with 5.5 and let it rise to 6.8. While keeping an eye on 6.8 because the plant won’t absorb if ph is to high so when that happens I re-adjust to 5.5 but advanced nutrients doesn’t require constant ph adjustment

@camarodude9615

6 ай бұрын

I'm use advanced nutrients in soil, going too give DWC a try is the additives ok too run with the base nutes in DWC, I run the whole advanced nutrients line in my Auto pots an I have to clean the water line coming out of the res at least 5 times during the run!

good info 😎

was chasing it at the begining as wasnt sure how any of it worked,,,but yeah soon got on top of things and had stable tap water which helped,,,,,but would keep at 6,,,and if it went over 6.4 would bring back down,,,but by the end it worked out the ph would rise slightly,,,the would feed,,,,which would bring it back into range,,,,,only needed the ph down at res change overs,,,then plant and feeds kept ph stable without using any ph up or down inbetween only on res change over,,,but just ran into to some early root root so think i got it early,,,,brought out the H202 worked great last time,,,we will see how it goes,,,,but was looking great till now lol,,,,running a Bruce Banner f3 this time round

Didn’t work out for me!! Commented before I watched i understand what you mean 😊

Great video !!! So much help I was getting so tired of chasing that PH EVERY day.

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate ya for watching fam!

Dropping one early

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

Had to look out for the UK fam

thank you !! very important information ,i was tired to chase that ph

Thank you brother . This explains everything 🙏🍺

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching brother 🙌🍺

fuck it, ill try it next run. not having to deal with ph would be worth the risk.

My yields have tripled since i started to pH. So long as it is in a range that's one thing. Advising not to pH is not very good advice since you have no idea where someone's pH was to start with.

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

That’s why I said some people are going to have to adjust if it gets out of range. And that’s dope that yours tripled! But the comments are proof that a lot of people have also been doing this and having success. Nothing is going to work for everyone though

@MrCBeery

Жыл бұрын

If you use distilled water and PH Balanced nutrients. Why mess with something that is not needed? Now city water. You might need to adjust the PH. You can take it a step further find a water filtration system that makes the PH the level you want. Like Zerowater filtration system. Run any water through it it cleans up your water makes the PH of 0. Then add your nutes and check the PH and see where it's at.

@zoocraft_official

Жыл бұрын

@@DusaFarms They've gotten lucky. A monster dwc like I grow swings pH rapidly and strongly. If you want pound yields off of one plant it's imperative that your pH is perfect. And your VPD. Both must be perfect.

@jackdowdy4593

Жыл бұрын

use pro mix drain to waste use lighter nutrient solutions and rinse soilless mix every few weeks

@psyience3213

Жыл бұрын

@@MrCBeery a ph of 0 would disintegrate your internal organs on contact 😂

I stopped chasing pH a while ago and realized I had less pH swings when doing so. I pH my water before adding nutrients and then maybe a small adjustment once in the system but I've noticed the same as you. It will swing!! But running an RDWC system my ph will also sit within a .2 range for a week or so. I went from checking it everyday to every few days to make sure there's no issues. Thanks for creating and sharing bro!

Very true!!

Pretty much bud. I gave up after everything I did caused my PH to swing. I now only really worry about temp and ppm

Agree with you 100%, But you must control pH level when plant is small and have smalls roots because easy to get chlorosis problem, and block nutrition, leafs start be brown -yellow colors, and plant can die. I almost lost 2 plants in dwc from chlorosis, but quickly change to pot with coco and they alive 😊

Like your videos. I have 4 DWC buckets going right now. How often do you have to add water to your buckets ?

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

By the time I hit flower I may refill aroumd day 4 just a little to last another couple days and then do a complete water change

thanks man.

Excellent

I heard a theory recently which makes sense, but fungus in the air pump. Also low ph levels also cut into the plastic of whatever you using. Makes sense

pH swing is only a problem if youre running low PPMs , only every have issues with iron def with high pH with vegging plants with low ppm , in flower im no longer bothering to check flower pH

Thank you kind sir

Well I have not had such luck DWC. My PH falls low during week 4 and beyond in 12/12. I have been using the 5 gallon buckets. I was thinking maybe I need a larger reservoir to control the PH better. I have grown using organic Pure Blend Pro and chemical Advanced Nutes. All the same for me ph falls to low around week 4. Only hydro grow that I was able to manage ph was when I used an external reservoir outside the tent and use gravity to feed the plants. The system was called AutoPot Easy to grow.

Older video, but 100% agree. I change once a week but I only grow a couple at a time. That said most of the people I physically see using DWC, depending on the strain, go 2 weeks with nothing more then adding water. They do use that reverse osmosis water though. All that being said, the video out lined the number one issue people have: Worry to much!!! Keep in mind this stuff grows in the wild and most illegal grows are just outside. They don't PH shit and don't use anything as far as nutrients etc. So just chill, keep an eye out, but leave it alone!!!!

I AGREE! People need to realize that flying completely blind isnt what anyone will advise and isnt what he's saying either

You should always check your Ph and there is reasons to why it fluctuates for example if your growing 2 different strains, each plant will use more than the other and microbial activity in the water and root zone then there is evaporation or it could be buffering capacity of your nutrients and Ph drift where some nutrient solutions may experience a natural pH drift over time, and regular monitoring and adjustments may be necessary to maintain the desired pH. You need to always check your PH and PPM and if your trying to get the very best out of your plant which I hope you are since the cost of running all that grow equipment then I suggest checking your Ph all the time and not just during res changes, like everyday. Growing DWC is not for the lazy gardener there is alot of work involved if you want more bang for your buck

I don't really ph unless it's a seedling, after they start growing I leave it be and just occasionally monitor it, never really made a difference, had some yellowing, my ro water is at 6 out the sink, I don't even measure my nutes and Calmag, just feed some tablespoons every water change, managed a qp my first auto grow off one plant, it's not as serious as people make it out to be, you end up just stressing yourself out spending hours watching leaves grow. Eventually you grow extremely tired of trying to chase perfect. People say dwc is hard, it's not it's very very easy, soil is what is hard, you legit have to be there nursing it everyday if not it dies, I've left my dwc for a week, came back it grew and was normal with nothing wrong.. do that with soil and you come back to a dried out plant if your using high temp lights.

If you pH it to 5.8 after adding your nutrients it should be good for a week. May have to top off with 5.8 water during the week but otherwise that's exactly what I do and I've never had problems.

C02 injection can also make even bigger swings with PH. Most people with planted aquariums would already know PH drops at night in general and when you add C02 injection that PH drop is even larger so id expect DWC would be the same. Between my Aquariums, Aquaponics and Hydroponics systems I only change the PH of what I'm adding to the existing mix or fresh fill's ;) Morning reading of 5.9 would swing to around 6.2 by late afternoon with a low of 5.6 lights out (NO C02 injection) expect more change with tank C02 ;).. Never used the trash c02 bags so unsure if they would effect much compared to regulated tank injection which does more the more C02 gets into the water from gas exchange during water agitation. Added edit = info on high tech planet Aquariums can show you so much about water and what PH changes to expect with x=amount C02. Once you get your head around it you can closely predict the change via amount of C02 in the water column.

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

Didn’t know that about CO2. Appreciate it fam!

@MrMadmazz

Жыл бұрын

@@DusaFarms Yeah killed a few fish in my teens 20 odd year ago when I 1st added C02. Couldn't work out why only 2 of 12+ breeds only died. People having major PH swings in their grows could be getting high amount's of C02 into the water column or just running shit nutrients ;) . could run a cheap ass aquarium C02 meter in a res to check when raining tank C02 in a grow

@marquisbaker2857

Жыл бұрын

Brothers for life thank you thank you

Wow! I'm new and feel i'm wingin' it LOL, my tap water has a pH of 6.31, my RO system has a pH of 5.53... and my RO water with nutes has a pH of 5.78! Fingers crossed I keep this going. I'm a new sub, gorgeous sincere eyes, thank you for sharing your knowledge :-D... I adjust my pH with lemon juice working on the baseline of my RO system, which isn't a whole heap of lemon juice. At the end of the day, plant health is the main indicator and trumps pH levels imho.

@SLIMMY93

3 ай бұрын

Stay away from using organic acid and base, I was using vinegar and it put a thick threadlike gel stuff in my res. Was a PAIN to get clean!

@ln3527

3 ай бұрын

a @SLIMMY93 I used the smallest amount of white vinegar to bring pH down, I brought it down too much and ended up using bicarbonate of soda to bring it back up. I was doing this with a 4L jug. A month now and no gel type substance at all. Too many variables to discount it completely. So far it is working for me. I didn't want to use pH UP/Down. So far white vinegar and bicarb is working for me off tap water. We have good tap water in Canada. Even better through our RO system, but i'd rather use tap.

@SLIMMY93

3 ай бұрын

@@ln3527It will happen to you. Organics and hydro are really hard to maintain, but do you playboy!

💯!!!!

When I started growing at like 14 I never checked ph on my first 4 grows just used flora series with tap water and never had a severe issues

at 5.8 are some things not good avlible u should go for 5.5ph and 6.0-6.2 for later flower.just around 5.8 are the sweat spots. Btw there are some nutrients that are very ph stabile but even with perfect nutrients i got serious problems if the envorment is off. The envoirment can couse bad metabolism and that influence the nutrient uptake. Sine the nutrient uptake is differnt from what the nutrient producer expected the ph will fall or rise in a matter of hour some times. I learned this by exident with some vegetebles. Befor i was growing under 100% perfect conditions and never got this problem. I am glad that i tryed some differnt things. The goal was to use a very low amount of energy. The experiment failed :D

All fluctuations and all plant temperaments need this fluctuations. It's good stress :)

I noticed when I set at 5.8 or any range my pH always would raise a little to like 6.1/ 6.4 so I thought 💭 I’d try one plant and set the pH at 5.2/5.3 ,,,,rechecking the pH it would be right at 5.8/6.0,,,,I’d forgotten I was doing that and after going back tru photographs I’ve taken of past runs those plants where much bigger n healthier than the ones I’ve been running the last two grows,,,,=OLD BUCKETS LEECHING NUTRIENTS USECD EATS THE FIRST FILM LAYER INSIDE THE BUCKETS !!!!!!! Go buy 1 or 2 NEW BUCKETS N AIR STONES and compare to the other plants ,,,today I bought all new buckets after reusing the same buckets for years!!!! My plants pH is back to being set at 5.3 ,,,,same nutrients as before same water 💦 and my plants are back to being BIG HYDRO PLANTS ONCE AGAIN

People overcomplicate DWC. Great video.

Peeps gotta chill don't chase PH as ole mate said let the plant Do what it does stress if it jumps or dives down. Stop over thinking stuff✌🏼

I have never pH to my water and I have a healthy looking plant if it isn’t feeding time I just add freshwater to it I do a feed once a week .

I have a question my ph starts dropping late in flower on every grow and still drinking water are they finished or not hungry anymore

I do suggest if you ever switch nutrients, to monitor to make sure. Your nutes may have some type of ph adjusting agent in there.

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

For sure. Monitor regardless just in case it does get out of range

@mr.ganiks

Жыл бұрын

@@DusaFarms ya thats a good idea.

Facts ,, I'm with you on PH chasing

I just assumed my ph perfect nutes was fine and come to find that it wasn’t fine and the bottom leaves were getting ate up. Adjusted the PH down at like 2 am, I found it at like 8,8.5. Next day at like 11 and the ph raised up a bit again to 7 after being adjusted down to 6.5, so brought it back down. Gonna be checking like mad over next few days

Yo Dusa what camera do you use to record looks crispy

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

Logitech c922 and appreciate it!

i have a question i'm using mega crop organic fertilizer and my ph goes up the next day from 5.8 to 6.4 is that normal for organic fertilizers to increase your ph like that? i think that might be the problem but i don't wanna switch to an non organic fertilizer should i just leave it as you say?

I only ph on top off mix or when I switch out the reservoir completely after that it is what it is and mines worked fine so far

im new at DWC and i was a #phchaser lol TY

I'm getting ready to start my first dwc run and I'm so glad I watched ur video bro bc me I'm that type that tries to keep everything absolutely perfect at all times n damn that shit b stressful af lol but it makes perfect sense why it fluctuates bc the plants r taking what they need out thanks homie super helpful I will keep u filled in how it goes cutting my clones n starting them tomorrow

Hello I need help please! I try DWC 4 the 1 time. And I just take the plan from ADVANCED HYDROPONICS OF HOLLAND and didn't take a pH meter. My water is good at 5.5 and I thought it's easy but my first real leafs are dryed out and even brake. Can I do something? I s there a nutrient for Hydrophonic which don't need a pH regulation? I am ❤desperate cause I thought like he Say it will do his thing but it went wrong can I rescue something??

Well my tap water is very alkaline, it sits on 8.0 pH. I guess most of you are using RO water which would explain why your pH swings are still within the safe range, but I have to use pH down to keep it in the 5.5 - 6.5.

@BrogramFilmss

3 ай бұрын

Same, mine sits around 10

@rebel4466

3 ай бұрын

Yup, some tap water is extremely alkaline. Mine fluctuates throughout the year. In the winter I usually get around 8.5, during the summer it's usually a bit better at around 7-7.5.

@rippeddragonkill

3 ай бұрын

mine is at 9

if it keeps going down. I'd be looking at the root rot

So what if its climbing to 7.8 daily in seedling stage

So just to be clear you do pH your nutrients when you first put them in right? And then you just monitor it within that certain tolerance?

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

Correct

That hat is killer!!!

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

Aye appreciate it!

i get my ph down from Napa auto. battery acid is just sulfuric acid and is like 15 bucks for a gallon. GH charges 15 bucks for a quart of distilled water with a few table spoons of acid.

I use Mantis buffered nutrients and haven't checked ph in yrs

Hey brother good video. I've got a question for you. How do I do water changes in dwc if I'm scrogging? Not a new grower I've been growing for 15 years but I'm trying out dwc so id like to know how I go about water changes while scrogging.

@raydutcher7603

Жыл бұрын

Invest in a battery powered siphon pump, you can get at Walmart for 15 bucks. All you have to do is crack the lid and you can remove old water into a empty bucket and then transfer your fresh water and nutrients right back in with never having to hold your plants up or remove netting! I just found this out and it’s so much easier on the back and labor!!!

@pedclarkemobile

Жыл бұрын

Sit yr buckets on a pot riser, drill a hole into lowest part of the wall of the bucket an install a small tap or hose with a valve. Let gravity do the work.

I like my soilless medium but I’m revving up for dwc. My friend is like “you are going to be so much busier chasing your ph everyday. That’s why I went back to soilless medium.” I’m gonna just do what you say and roll with the punches. Thank you! ❤

6.0 is perfect

My ph is at 7 from the tap so I adjust overall water to 6.0 and let it ride

What’s your thoughts on using rain water?

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

I personally don’t use it because I don’t have a collector but I’ve got a couple of friends that use it and they love it

Reminds me of the BBQ hobbyists that insist you need to smoke at 225deg and no other temp...🙄

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

💚👍you killing them with your love.🤣👍same thing here, ph once✌

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

💚🙌

I’m on my third grow no ph pen. Besides these are outdoor plants anyway and God don’t have a ph pen that I know of.

pH swings indicate an imbalance between the uptake of anions and cations in your nutrients. Without a stable pH, your EC readings are useless. You are basically running blind, not knowing if your nutrients are the correct ratio or concentration. The plants tell you what to feed them by changing the pH and EC. Knowing how to read these changes helps dial in your setup and boosts yields and quality. I usually get 2g per watt with a good yielding strain.

I only ph when I make the reservoir.

“You’re not my dad” is Crazy😂

I gotta try that because I am a PH feen…

I lower it to 5.5 and let it go up to like 6.3 and bring it back down.

Hey bro have u tried Cana nutes for dwc if not u should try it Cana will not disappoint u bro

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

Okay for sure I appreciate it! I’ll have to check it out next run. I was leaning into trying advanced nutrients

@MrMadmazz

Жыл бұрын

@@DusaFarms Canna is great and holds quiet a stable PH BUT like anything more C02 in the water column will create a higher swing in PH between Day/Night cycle. Something I only watch for when running planted Aquariums with tank C02 injection since sure the fish may not mind the higher C02 in the water column for the plants BUT some may die after a few weeks due to the stress of the higher PH swings... Most plants/fish have no problem with the swing of PH from day/night cycle since its just nature.

If you’re changing the water once a week, then you don’t have to ph, but checking the PH twice a day that’s obsessive. Once a week seems more than necessary; most people do 2 weeks or a month AFAIK.

Yeah it's all great until it goes miles out of range and you start getting nute deficiencies/lock outs etc

dusa how do u get more terps on dwc

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

Make sure you’re getting enough light and some strain are going to be more terpy than others. I’m no expert but light really made a huge difference for me as well as the rest of grow conditions

@normantaffefiny8227

Жыл бұрын

@@DusaFarms ive definitely followed VPD to a tee, light i think is suffcient at 986umols/m2 do u use mammoth p, orca or tribus?

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

No I’m currently running Athena and before was running General Hydroponics

@darrenbeeken6783

7 ай бұрын

You still running Athena?

That's why I use advanced nuts ph perfect

I would say the same with soil except you wouldn't ever use a ph down product when you water.

@TwiztidPOPS1

Жыл бұрын

I have tap water that runs close to 8.0 and have to use PH down to get it in range before feeding the girls. No issues.

@timm_3r

Жыл бұрын

That's probably unhealthy to drink. Tap water should be close to nuetral.

@TwiztidPOPS1

Жыл бұрын

@@timm_3r Hope not because I've lived in this house for 22 years... It was built back in 1922.

@timm_3r

Жыл бұрын

You may want too send some samples to culligan and see what's in it. You could have sediment in your pipes making it alkaline. I would use distilled vinegar to ph down instead of the chemical water treatments.

Never used it my plants are just fine is just for luxury

I check my ph.. but it never perfect.. started at 5.5 now it's at 6.4.. 😂 ill change it in a couple more days..

Ok look people. If you used distilled water. You would never need to fix the PH. I use PH Balanced nutrients. Which never messes with the PH and my plants are happy.

I use Tap water, So i'm always fighting with a 7.0 PH level. I can't afford to not chase it.

I think 🤔 you triggered some people today haha 😂 nice info 👊🔥✌️

You are a great font of information, but this one I don't agree, you gotta measure PH, primary for hydros...

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

PH when prepping (I go 5.8) Monitor throughout week to ensure it stays within 5.5-6.5. Adjust only when outside of those ranges. It’s fine for it to fluctuate from 5.8 as long as it’s in those ranges.

@surfdi

Жыл бұрын

@@DusaFarms thats it!! Cheers from Brazil, brother!!

Past growers should be able 2 grow without checking I mean you know your base n what's in it a person that's been growing yrs should be past this . checking h20

Interesting. Do you use microbes? Aka bennies

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

I used to add bacillus but I currently don’t use any other additives and just run the Athena blended line

@KoolAide187

Жыл бұрын

@@DusaFarms I was asking because I've heard microbes in soil help with buffering PH and thought if you were running them it might be the reason for the balancing in PH. Cheers!

once you google what PH is actually is - life would become easier;)

Also your plants inndwc dont eat food in all up in one week like u think your plants can actually go two weeks or longer before u need to change the food... plants only eat what they need so feeding it every week for no reason jusy to make sure u have strong solution whichbis really all your doing in veg.... until its really eating and drinking i n flower. I let a oreoz strain go dwc a 3 weeks to almost 4 weeks. Outdoor dwc started right beneath barely touching the pot... withbdyno grow... as an experiment so its not sceincetificlly proven 😂.. just something i did ounce and noticed that u can do and i saves on food and money...did the same in bloom .. just let it eattill the water got low low.. and it was fire... .. so if theres issues i could have had doin that please feel free to educate me ..❤

I dont adjust my ph and my plants do good

El curry del p.h

You're not my dad lmao.

💚#1luv4dabudz

@DusaFarms

Жыл бұрын

💚

Ur old crib. Ha

jesus slow downyou talking way to fast...