PF Flyers vs Converse - (CUT IN HALF)
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"Shoes Guaranteed to make a kid run faster and jump higher." PF Flyers the secret weapon of the classic "The Sandlot". I bought a pair of these to cut them in half and compare them to the classic converse and the chuck 70s we reviewed previously.
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The "memory foam" was at one time a solid chunk of foam rubber meant for arch support. Players at the college level (i.e. Henry Bibby Playing for John Wooden) made special requests to avoid Converse and wear PF Fliers for that arch support.
@Suddenlyits1960
2 жыл бұрын
This is correct. PF’s “Rigid Wedge” gave them superior arch support and their name. “Posture Foundation”. They are vastly superior in looks and comfort to Converse shoes.
@lesliegambee5260
2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could find white PF Flyers, but all I could find the last time I looked were other colors. Has that changed?
@Suddenlyits1960
2 жыл бұрын
One side note is that these shoes have become rather pricey. The new PFs are $78.99 now.
@romesrepublic
2 жыл бұрын
Try ebay, i just ordered a white pair.
@Seryma86
Жыл бұрын
@@Suddenlyits1960 hell the suede ones are $100. They’re super comfortable and look good though.
But P.F Flyers have somthing the other two dont, a Guarantee: "Shoes guaranteed to make a kid run faster and jump higher-P.F. Flyers" - The Sandlot
Can't stop watching this channel. Thank you for your commitment to the craft.
@ophhate
3 жыл бұрын
Of cutting stuff in half?? Ha okay 👍
@vaporiiz
2 жыл бұрын
agreed! im addicted
@AngryYoungAndPoor1969
2 жыл бұрын
You have great boot polish!
The black PF flyers for sure. I wish more shoes had the wider toebox.
@fizzyizzy6206
4 жыл бұрын
They look like trash
@dawnqwerty
4 жыл бұрын
For me the toebox is where most of my uncomfortableness comes from so I would love all shoes to have that
@oneashralph4076
4 жыл бұрын
@@fizzyizzy6206 Chuck boy
@TV0R11
4 жыл бұрын
For Refrence PF Flyers are owned and produced by New Balance now who is also known for making wider toe boxes in their sneakers.
@AnqaOdyssey
4 жыл бұрын
I use chucks as gym shoes but damned if they are tiiiight.
The extra foam is for arch support,invented by B.F Goodrich which was the predecessor of both converse and p.f flyers,and used on their dress shoes. Later they used the same tech when they started releasing sneakers and even in military outfits. Pretty cool history imo
From personal experience. All black Chucks lasted me about 9 months of daily wear. And all black PF Flyers lasted me about two years of almost daily wear. I wore both to PE in school everyday. With Converse they tend to fall apart about from the sides and soles they also fade from black to a blue greenish color. While PF Flyers fade to brown and the canvas tears from the sides.
It would be cool if you also reviewed the PF Flyer Made in US version to compare to the Chuck 70s!
@jhnlngn
4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering this also. I like the looks of the white on white low tops.
@brandontolliver1672
4 жыл бұрын
I like that the made in US version has the leather toe cap
@ARCADEGHOST
3 жыл бұрын
@@brandontolliver1672 I love it as well. They bring a real unique look to the sneakers, and I get compliments when wearing them.
@jdog6200
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he should have done that.
@Suddenlyits1960
2 жыл бұрын
The made in USA version has a rubber toe cap,the body of the shoe that is normally canvas is all leather. They are very high quality shoes,but I personally prefer the canvas style as they are true to the look of the shoes in the 50’s and 60’s. They didn’t make them in leather back then.
PF flyers are consistently well made. I've tried on converse where one shoe of the same pair looks different to the other. Never had that with PF flyers.
3:31 when after 34 years you find out what the PF in PF Flyers actually means
@JohnDavis-nx8hh
4 жыл бұрын
@@joeybaseball7352 Old school sneakers. I wore them in 1968
@Iamdr3wski3
4 жыл бұрын
Joey Baseball you made me feel old with this comment
@exexpat11
4 жыл бұрын
Outside of The Sandlot recently David Tennet wore them when he played Dr Who.
@viciousvictortee1298
3 жыл бұрын
Posture Foundation...First brand in the USA to have a proffesional sports endorsement. Originally owned by BF Goodrich...yes the Tire. Its revolutionary "rubber' sole Invented the "tennis" Shoe...but used for basket ball...
@keystonetuscanred4921
3 жыл бұрын
@@exexpat11 Really?
Please do the Onitsuka Tiger Mexico 66, the iconic Kill Bill shoe!! Would also love to see (for milestones or whatever) more fashion boots, such as Maison Margiela tabi boots or Vivienne Westwood seditionaries boots, boots that are the same price or higher than work boots but are purely for fashion purposes.
@Deadlyaztec27
4 жыл бұрын
We definitely need the Mexico 66!
@TV0R11
4 жыл бұрын
Well if you want THE kill bill shoe, they used Tai Chi's not Mexico 66's
@ppsalev
4 жыл бұрын
I`d like mexico 66 too, Its what I wear like 90% of the time in the past couple of years
@albertkelly7129
4 жыл бұрын
YES! i asked him to do the 66's 3 months ago and there seemed to be no interest dangnabbit
@Yakuzaka1412
4 жыл бұрын
YEAH! 100% And the Super Deluxe Version as well. They cost 50€ more, are they really that much better?
PF Flyers are my favs. They're roomie enough for a proper insole and last longer than cons. They're Made buy New Balance and their shoes are pretty consistently good quality for the price. I made the brand switch to the Flyers in 2010 and I've easily gotten 2.5-3yrs wear out of every pair.
@TV0R11
4 жыл бұрын
Same, shoesforcrews even makes a non slip sole version of the flyers with added gussets for extra water resistance.
@errhka
4 жыл бұрын
I got a pair for my Benny the jet halloween costume one year and when I put them on I was amazed how comfy they were so I still wear them. Plus the placebo of making you run faster and jump higher is worth something in my mind lol. My only criticism is that they can be too hot to wear in the summer sometimes, especially the all black ones, but if you are playing a game of baseball or hockey in the street with friends there is nothing better. Great memories in my shoes :)
@margaritam.9118
4 жыл бұрын
3 years is not much for that type of shoe though 🤔 I thought they last longer
@Officernoob
4 жыл бұрын
Margarita M. what in the world? Sneakers don’t last me 6 months so 3 years sounds pretty good to me
@Massimilianop
4 жыл бұрын
Isn't nike the owner of new balance?
I got that pair of PF flyers over Christmas. One thing I like about them is the extra room in the toe box. With my last pair of regular converse, the shoe started to bend upward in the toe. To the point where I couldn't wear them anymore. The shoe practically made a half circle; it was crazy. I really like my PF flyers and I hope/don't think they'll bend up like my converse did.
@chellsee4167
4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you had the wrong size Converse? I know the curling you're talking about though. I have 2 pairs of PFs, my old pair haven't curled up like any of my old Chucks. But if you're concerned get shoe trees, that will help retain the shape of your shoes.
@Arthurian.
11 ай бұрын
I've worn chucks for 30 years, never had that happen.
@katiefrances531
Ай бұрын
i've had my converse for about a year, maybe a year and a half, and they have that same curling issue. i was wondering if anyone else had that issue (also sorry for replying to such an old comment haha)
I found the PF Flyers to be much more comfortable than my original Chuck's, but I have narrow feet so they didn't fit as well. Due to the fit the heal counters cracked and wore out before the shoes were really done. I think I will give the Chuck 70s a try next!
I definitely prefer the old format where you cut the shoe in half first, and then go through the layers. That reveal shot where you pull the two halves apart is honestly why I subscribed in the first place.
I love The Sandlot. Didnt even realize they sell these.
@timvansteenburgh8389
4 жыл бұрын
They actually sell a sandlot addition
@KS-xk2so
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they put out special Sandlot editions on big anniversaries of the first movie. Did one for the 20th in 2013, and the 25th in 2018. I've got me a few different pairs of "The Secret Weapons" lol
I liked when you cut the entire shoe open so that the comparison is uninterrupted, and so that there was a more satisfying immediate cross section
I am 62 years young , have worn all three. By far the better shoe overall is the PF Flyers. They feel more substantial and wear better. The Pf also has better support for the feet.
ngl, I kinda miss the whole "Reveal" part where he just cut the whole thing in half and showed it to the viewer in one go. Felt pretty signature to this channel and I would always skip forwards to see the insides when I wanted to remind myself of what was inside them. It helped me chose between getting a pair of redwings or sticking with my Timberlands for now. Kinda miss it.
@normadicn5700
3 жыл бұрын
The quality of this channel has declined
deconstructing shoes is my kind of asmr.
@CC-fi3pp
4 жыл бұрын
@@joeybaseball7352 In a hot kind of way 😉
@lechatlola
4 жыл бұрын
Joey Baseball okay 🤨🤷♀️
@full.rom.fitness
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah no shit. I dont even like asmr too much but I like the sound of him cutting up the shoes lol. He should make an asmr compilation i reckon it would get good numbers. Like different shoes and materials etc.
My all-stars have fallen apart enough that I know what's in there 😅
man you are absolutely smashing out the content! And awesome quality! keep this up you'll be over 1m in no time
I really enjoy your videos. I am disappointed in the quality of materials these companies use and the lack of support many of them offer. And on top of that their pricing for basically crap shoes. The shoe industry hides a bunch of stuff with their canvas and glue. Keep up the great job!
I grew up with P.F. Flyers. I was certain that they did make me run faster and jump higher! Love your channel.
If you're wanting to compare different vans shoes, I would love to see you cut a Pro Skate variant in half. There are many differences, they are the highest quality, thickest material, most comfortable and durable vans, and are built quite differently. Love the video!
So stoked for the Palladiums! I absolutely swear by my Palladiums (I wear the "baggy" model with the fold over tops), I've never had a boot so comfortable or a boot that lasts so long!
I love your videos, I don't like shopping shoes and don't really care much about them but your videos just suck me in and I've binged a whole bunch of them since finding this channel
My son has been wearing Chuck Taylor's for a year but he wears them out in about 6 months. I'm going to try the P.F. Flyers after this. Great video! Thanks!
Love PF's and The Sandlot. Been rocking them for years.
Yay!!! Pf flyers finally getting some recognition.
PF Flyers look the best for sure. I like that toe guard the way it looks
I'm looking forward to the palladium review! They have such a great look to them I'm wondering how their longevity holds up for daily wear.
Looking forward for the stan smith video. Got one for my heavy everyday beater and the outsole got pretty compressed over time and got really thin, had to get a new one cause I like the looks of it.
@istillusezune82
4 жыл бұрын
The modern Stan Smith is nothing like the original. I have inspected a 1970s Made in France pair - it has much better leather and sole, both are more solid and thicker. It is also noticeably heavier and last for years.
@drunkenmasterii3250
4 жыл бұрын
he should do the Sambas OG.
@MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
4 жыл бұрын
@@istillusezune82 that's true have you seen the premium stan Smith's? Are they worth the $120?
@nazgulrakhimzhanova7298
4 жыл бұрын
It feels like the $120 SS have the same outsole, but I don't really like that it has a different color (not white as regular SS). Wearing Converse and Ecco sneakers, and occasionally white SS. If you have ever tried Ecco shoes - as for me they are the longest-lasting sneakers - I've been using them since 2013.
back around 89-90 I has a pair of PF flyers with black suede uppers and they were probably my favorite shoes ever.
I love how the converse looks on feet, BUUUUUUT, one time I borrowed my brothers and after 6 hours of wear my feet were killing me.
@richl9623
2 жыл бұрын
Used to wear mine all day back in the 70's through grade school and high school. They were the happening shoe back then. 💪😎
@spaceman022
2 жыл бұрын
get the chuck 70,far better in every way
@cl5314
2 жыл бұрын
Chuck 70s are comfortable, especially with some insoles
@heythere6983
2 жыл бұрын
I heard the 70s are even stiffer one the bottom sole. My issue is what makes a shoe comfortable isn’t the inside, it’s the outer sole and how flexible it is, so that your foot isn’t fighting all these weird pressure points very step you take
man i loved seeing ur channel progress so quickly! really ispiring me to work hard!
I actually love you, this is fantastic, finally consumers have a little bit more guidance now
Back in the 80's I used to go backpacking wearing Converse high tops, carrying about a 40 lb pack. Amazing what you can do when you are young.
Awesome dude you bought the palladiums I suggested. I love mine, got about 5 pairs now. Can't wait for the video 👍
I work at "Mark's" and we have some converse that are newer and they are more comfortable, and slightly wider. I have the classic low cut and have to wear the thinnest socks I can find with them, but the mid cuts I have, have some padding on the sides for the ankles and they are more comfortable.
Awesome video! Great work man!! Thank you for the work you do.
I’ve got a pair of the PF Flyers Sandlot edition’s. I love those damn things. Ive only bought one pair of Chuck’s and they fell apart after about 2 months. Haven’t bought a pair since. I’ll definitely be buying more PF Flyers though.
Had a really cool pair of brown leather *PFlyers* in ‘07 They used to have a much more varied range of styles + colours in the late 00s 👟🥾👞 A shame they don’t anymore.
You should cut apart more performance shoes, it could really expand your audience and it would be super cool to see
@unknowntosociety01
3 жыл бұрын
some new balance and adidas
Thanks for the review and cutting these open! It would be interesting to also check out the Novesta Star Master and Shoes like Pottery Low Tops as a canvas sneaker series
Chuck 70s are my choice. They last me forever and I love how they look and feel. I would love to see you do Thursday boots
Would be interested in seeing a comparison to the cheapo $20 version of this shoe style that Walmart and other stored sell in their house brands. My wife loves the women's versions from Walmart but I've always been too skeptical to buy myself their men's versions.
Would love to see the new pf flyers once they relaunch. Hopefully it won’t be too much longer. Unless the company that bought them from new balance just doesn’t ever get off the ground
@Suddenlyits1960
2 жыл бұрын
They are already taking orders for them on the website. The woman that owns the brand now is daughter of Jim Davis the owner and chairman of New Balance. As far as I know the center hi will be exactly the same as it was when New Balance made them. We’ll know for sure once they are released.
Fun Fact, the crew of the Nostromo in the scifi horror classic ALIEN wear (modified) all white PF Flyers. For a long time people thought they were Converse Chuck Taylors until high definition home video came along and people on the internet did some sleuthing and identified the distinct ridged toe bumper of the PF Flyer. But like a lot of off the shelf products turned props theyve been modified by the films costume dept (with metal D-eyelets) ...I thought that was an interesting bit of info anyway. Thanks for another great comparison video!
You should do some Palladium boots next since they're in the same style as PF Flyers and Converse
@lemon611ify
4 жыл бұрын
Seconded
@familycorvette
4 жыл бұрын
Palladium were created for French paratroopers. Their backstory is way more badass than Chucks.
@gabrier165
4 жыл бұрын
there's a pair in the back in kaki green :D
@youngwealthdc5096
4 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@exexpat11
4 жыл бұрын
@@familycorvette IDF were selling a similar boot in the surplus market. Uncomfortable as all get out.
This is the review I was waiting for, YES!! No one reviews these shoes
Would love to see a video on frye boots! They’re my go-to for leather boots and I’d love to know about their leather quality and construction from someone with the knowledge
The front piece of rubber that goes over the foxing on the front of the shoe is typically referred to as the toe "bumper" (like a car bumper)
The PF wedge I assume as you said is to prevent some of the ankle pronation of most people in flat-soled shoes (the reason I could never be comfortable for long in a pair of Chucks)... maybe I should try the PF flyers then
I wear PF for almost 2 years now replacing my Chuck.Yes,they re more comfortable in a toe area. Also I'm slightly over pronation so the little bump on a inner sole help a bit to support my foot.In term of durability I think Chuck & PF re almost a same.
Mate😱my little ones just giving me the looks!👀 she also has converse & vans! I won't tell her! Nice one👍🇬🇧
Wow I’m early!! I haven’t seen the vid yet but man you should cut open some Thursday Boots. They claim to be high quality for the $200 price point.
@victorlarsen734
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@lemon611ify
4 жыл бұрын
Trent and Heath already did that
@xenonram
4 жыл бұрын
tHuRsDay bOoTs
@Officernoob
4 жыл бұрын
Vincenzo Chariandy that review only talks about 10 seconds about leather quality
@marymotch
4 жыл бұрын
Completely agree. I honestly haven’t been that impressed with the ones I bought
Would love to see a spreadsheet on materials and what build qualities are ranked against each other on shoes and boots reviewed
I’d love to see you cut and go through a pair of Solomon trail running / hiking or tactical shoes (even more so the gortex version) . So many people say they’re the best of the best, but is that just product/brand loyalty or does the shoe back up that tall talk
Omg nooo Weston you need to do the Palladiums!!! Growing up in London in the 90s these boots where the one!! Swear xxx🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💯❤
Love your uploads man !
Are we still able to order from the PF Flyers site? I noticed it said 2018 at the bottom of the site and I’m not sure if they’re still active
Have you thought about doing Greats? It comes in other colors, but it could go in the white sneaker series. I have two pairs I have been really happy with, but now I’m curious.
Ever since that common projects video I've been on the hunt for another leather sneaker. Anyone know if the Jack Purcell leather sneakers by converse is good?
are the pf flyers wider than the chuck 70s? i thought i remember the chuck 70s being wider than normal chucks thanks!
Have you try looking in the 5.11 chuck norris or even the altima maritime shoes?
Cool video. Back in the mid 60's PF Flyers main competition was Red Ball Jets where I lived. In the late 60's Converse was becoming a thing, and their main competition (at least where I grew up) was Bata Bullets. If nothing else, there were some pretty cool names for shoes back then. :-)
PF Flyers along with Keds, just distant memories from childhood, both long gone I thought.
I love my pf flyers I got the USA made ones and was very happy to see them from the sandlot . Also so wish I played baseball still they make cleats that are of flyers .
@jondadon7993
4 жыл бұрын
Do pf flyers fit true to size or are they like chucks and fit smaller to size?
Cut in half any jordans you can find like for cheap even if they are already used, any model i think would be really really cool to see whats inside of them
Those black PF Flyers look amazing
I wanted to add that some of the earlier PF Flyers made by New Balance,the ones with the earlier inauthentic looking rubber logo on the sides,suffered from very poor quality control. The soles would separate from the body of the shoes,and often had slipshod alignment of the vent eyelets in the side of the shoes as well as deformed soles. I had returned two pairs for that issue and PF Flyers sent new ones and made it right. The last version they made before discontinuing them had thicker,higher quality canvas than the previous version of the MC2001 series. I hope the new company will strive for even better quality control and construction. Such issues are unforgivable in a canvas shoe costing $80
I always thought they had a “solid shank”. I have both these and the grounder hi and I think the grounder definitely has some sort of shank in there
damn dude, you blew up. I rembember the very first cutting in half video, which was probably the catalyst that's awesome
i actually bought a pair of these because of this video! i always was a chuck taylor guy, but the PF's are every bit as good, and often just a little bit less monay on the line.
The memory foam pad is for arch support. On one side because that’s how our arches are
How about the Altama Maritime Assault Boot? They're about the same price, with a similar look but seem heavier duty, and imo more comfortable.
@Tomas-te3ph
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen them on amazon and I want a pair.
@andrewhaynalcasel3200
4 жыл бұрын
I second that
@user-hr3sx8ub2k
4 жыл бұрын
love my maritimes
@exexpat11
4 жыл бұрын
Look great but many complain of them falling apart quickly.
@marioscotto7073
2 жыл бұрын
I own 5 different pairs and they are the shit... super tough 💪
Thursday boots I have a pair and so far they have held up well but it be nice to know how they are made.
All us poor kids in the 1960s wore Converse or their knock-offs. The rich kids wore Jack Purcell tennis shoes even in gym class. We played basketball and the rich kids played tennis so there was a good reason for both choices. When I got my first job pushing an ice cream cart at age 14 I wore Converse and my feet hurt like crazy. So, I bought a pair of Jack Purcell's. Not only were they comfortable but they lasted the whole Summer too without hardly any wear and tear. A couple of years ago I tried on a pair of Converse at Sports Authority and I was appalled at how uncomfortable they felt. Kids wear them today for fashion but I cannot imagine that they do so for comfort without an additional insert.
I do believe the PF stands for Posture Foundation and they were owned by BF Goodrich back in the day made with tire rubber. They're now owned by New Balance I believe
I got PF Flyers because I tried Chucks and they were not as comfortable, however I must have tried the cheaper ones, because it's possible that the more expensive Chucks could be more comfy. But even then the narrow toe area is a problem. Also I wanted a brand that not everyone was wearing.
Gucci Loafers are always considered such an all time classic essential, would love to see a video on those! Love your channel
Awesome video. PF flyer Made in USA have a different midsole, leather toe cap, leather lining and14 oz Duck Canvas vs the 10 oz in the Sandlots. I think the Converse 70's are 12 oz canvas.
I'd say that extra bit of layer in the PF flyer was intended as arch support, or to limit foot pronation (inwardly rolled ankles). It does look outdated from a PT point of view, but orthopedics are always changing, with some Dr's claiming their idea is always best.
Also, would you ever consider producing more cat harnesses? I'd love to deck out my cat in a black one, possibly with spiky studs. Thoughts?
would you, or anyone, know where to orders these in the netherlands? I want to buy the pf flyers but i cant find them online? would help me a lot thanks
Why didn't you buy the grounder hi which is equivalent to the chuck 70 and the made I the USA pf flyers?
Damn! I never clicked a link so quick on KZread. I swear up and down by PF Flyers. Let's get to choppin' this fable.
Great video! How did those size 10's fit you in the PF Flyers? Like you, I tend to wear a 10.5 (11/45 in Lems Boulder boot though). I'm considering trying a pair since they are on sale!
@coreyfink6783
4 жыл бұрын
@Vincent Barthe Thank you, Vincent!
@chellsee4167
4 жыл бұрын
Whatever size you wear in Chucks go a half size up. I'm a 9.5 (Converse) in womens and went with a 10 (PF Flyers) womens.
love your videos mate! cheers!
Great video as always! You should take a look into those made in japan converses, since they're owned and operated by a completely different company. I wonder if there's any significant difference in their construction as well.
isnt the added padding on the one side of the PF FLyers just for arch support?
The insole in the pf flyers supports the arch and prevents back pain if you walk a lot. I used to wear regular converse but started having back problems. The best converse was the premiere all star but the discontinued it. I then went to pf flyers but they are a very inconsistent shoe. I have three pairs the same size all different factories and none of them fit right. Ended up going back to chucks now that they have lunarlon insole
You should do the ariat country mile i just got a pair and they are really comfortable and id really like to know what makes them like that
I am a fan of the PF Flyers, and have been for years. They run true to size (unlike the large Men's Chucks, which run really long) and can be found on sale often in some colorway of the Center Hi. I usually replace the included insole with a better one, and I suspect the raised padded arch is just an old school feature that is being carried on out of old time sake. I have only owned 1 pair of Chuck 70's, which I mistakenly ordered a size down and found they were too tight, but they did seem to have that edge in quality. So I'd also place the quality in the order (from lowest to highest) Chucks / PF Flyers / Chuck 70. I like the quality of Vans over those 3, but just not a fan of Vans in terms of fit.
I’ve owned the classic Chucks and the Sandlots. Never tried the Chuck 70’s, but the PF Flyers are more comfortable than the Chucks I’ve owned.
Does anyone know what those olive drab and brown sneakers are to our left his right?
Somehow I managed to bunched the counter ankleguard and now when I put on my PF Flyers, the ankle area us uncomfortably binding. Anyone experience this and how do you relax the ankle counter?
Pro-Keds are a lot like these 3 shoes. I've always felt they lasted longer then Cons or PF's. But they all fit a different style or mood depending on what your wearing. I'm just happy the old nostalgic look has come back to stay. 😎
I'd love to see a skate shoes series. The thickly padded versions of DC vs Globe vs Etnies vs DVS vs Volcom vs Emerica, Etc. Also, if you could get your hands on a pair of old school Duffs (the greatest skate shoes ever made in my opinion) that would be interesting to see if there are any differences in construction to new skate shoes.