When RB were nowhere it was Max winning, not Newey. He finished 9 points behind bottas, with 5x more dnfs than Bottas in 2020, when Merc had the fastest car in F1 history. The RB16A was demonstrably slower. The RB18/19 were amazing but it was Max who took home the titles in both, Checo would have failed.

@brmh1667

2 ай бұрын

So would Verstappen if not for Newey!

@MrBashem

2 ай бұрын

​@@brmh1667 If Max won because of him means Perez lost because of him.

@joahnjansen9760

2 ай бұрын

Newey isn't working so much anymore to development the car, he's most of the time working at that new RB17 streetcar

Max makes this car quick. Neither Albon nor Perez could get up to his pace

@Dream-Academy

2 ай бұрын

Ricciardo beat him for 2.5 years....

I think Peter still has Vietnam style flashbacks about 2021.

@Weezy10580

3 ай бұрын

Lol

@youbetu18

3 ай бұрын

as much as i completely agree, that looking at abu dhabi as a singular event, the outcome of that race was unfair, Peter has to let it go. While it was NOT within the safety car rules to proceed the way it was done, it WAS in the rules that the race director could override the procedure if deemed necessary. When now you look at the entire season 21 you can see that the decision is perfectly aligned with how everything else was handled and can be summed up with the words used many times by the FIA. sometimes for RB advantage (Brazil etc), sometimes for Merc advantage (Silverstone etc). They said: "Let them race". for one thing i agree, as much as its in the rules, you cant have that season end under a safety car, what a shame that would have been. should have told Ham and Merc beforehand though...

@dco1019

3 ай бұрын

@@youbetu18 yea it was a perfect ending.. hamilton fans wont stop about it like there was some agreement to end that race under sc but really it was a coin on its edge and see which way it would fall.. and id say that if the coin wouldve fell hamiltons way there very well couldve been gripes why the sc process wasnt done more efficiently .... and indeed why did we end a great season with an sc

@Harolddespui

3 ай бұрын

In 2021 Max should have been the champion 5 races before the end already but thanks to issue's like a murder attempt at Silverstone and Valterri Bowlingtas it became exciting till the end.

@ryanangus6023

3 ай бұрын

Still hurts for some clearly 😂. Either way it was the best season and someone had to win. Both deserved it. I Just wish it was close like that every year. Cause no one can match red bull right now so Ferrari McLaren mercedes Aston anyone just please get faster 😂

What everyone is missing is that this combination is special, they are so well trained together....All the factory workers, pitcrew, Newey and his team etc makes this almost look like perfection...If Max Leaves it wont work likes it does now....If Newey Leaves it will not work like it does now...We will probably never see this ultra rare driver designer combo ever again i am afraid, Newey did already win 25 titles in F1, Newey said himself that the 2023 car was the best he ever made, Max his consistency just tops it big time, If Max would drive next year somewhere else and Perez stays we can see how good that car really is or if Max does understand the car better...After 5 teammates totally destroyed people still doubt about Max his driving skills...All those teammates are still driving and are still doing good because they aren't team mates anymore with Max.

@rampageashton

3 ай бұрын

the drivers on the whole are replaceable, even if max is 1 tenth faster than anyone ever, I doubt it but lets say he is. if the car is 5 tenths faster than any other car, then the top ten drivers on the grid still win every race in the Redbull. The design of the car and the team is thee most important part of F1. its a science experiment on wheels. the driver helps but the driver is expendable.

@Karma2Babylon

3 ай бұрын

Checo is not the measure of how good any car is. Ocon used to beat Checo.

@EntropicExergy

3 ай бұрын

@@rampageashton That might be true for 99 out of 100 drivers, but not for Max. Max is the talent of the century, as Lauda put it back in Spain 2016, is too rare to be replaced. Drivers are expendable, Max is the one that is not.

@timok70

3 ай бұрын

@@Karma2Babylon For the right context ,Checo won the 2 seasons in total poins agains Ocon ,both won 16 time against eachother ,Ocon only qualified better. Checo defeated Hulkenberg in 2015 2016 and 2017 I think your comment is a bit on the negative and biased side.

@Karma2Babylon

3 ай бұрын

@@timok70 but op’s comment isn’t? In what universe is the notion that Checo represents the true measure of the RB makes any rational sense?

Since Vettel left, Redbull did win 64 races. 4 x Ricciardo, 4 x Perez, 56 x Max. I wouldn't only keep Newey, i would keep both.

@markobajt9261

3 ай бұрын

Without Newey all these wins do not happen. Max is just the icing on the cake.

@Harolddespui

3 ай бұрын

@@markobajt9261 Without Max all these wins wouldn't have happen either. See Perez.

@simondavies8726

3 ай бұрын

@@Harolddespui without Max, there is Hamilton, Leclerc, Alonso, Norris. Any one of these would win the WDC in one of Newey’s cars

@Harolddespui

3 ай бұрын

@@simondavies8726 Not with Max in a Ferrari.

@simondavies8726

3 ай бұрын

In the top 5 teams, Perez is the 9th best driver, Perez finished 2nd last year and will probably finish 2nd this year, the Red Bull is too far clear

These interviews with Peter are top notch. Cam interviewing Peter gets the best out of Peter.

the biggest scandal is silverstone , peter is lewis minded.

Nice job , please keep Peter coming back!✅

Always a must watch when Cameron and Sir Windsor sit down to chat all things F1. Great watch and keep them coming mate😊

Other drivers could win in the RB20 absolutely. But could they win if Max was still in one of those Redbulls? Answer is no. Pretty easy to see its going to be another season of the media/fans taking shots at Verstappen any chance they can get. Never seen so many people being this insecure about Verstappens success. Its to the point where people are fantasizing about his demise.

@VinnieDayz

3 ай бұрын

Why do you think these two posted this conversation now? Because the news broke that Felipe Massa officially is suing FIA for one of the biggest scandals in F1 history which gave Lewis his first world championship. Because that is now in the news, these sad little people need and try to deflect the attention away from that and put it on max by making ridiculous claims that Abu Dhabi 21 was the biggest scandal in all of sport ever, one of the most insane statements ever which completely exposes his British bias which he obviously is going to yell and scream about again soon, how dare someone accuse him of that... How sad are these two, and nobody has the balls to say it, everybody is just kissing Peter Winsors ass, dont you dare to think for yourself, believe everything Peter says....

@Harolddespui

3 ай бұрын

That other driver must like a pointy Newey car and there aren't many of them.

@stevenst6337

3 ай бұрын

@@Harolddespui newey has made championship cars for many different drivers and different driving styles. It’s up to the drivers to adapt to what’s given to them. These new gen of cars have completely different tyres compared to 21 cars, and are 50kg heavier. The amount of adaptation the drivers had to make from 21 cars to 22 is massive and how Max drove in 21 wouldn’t have worked in 22 I can garunteed you that. Max is just the best at adapting.

@rampageashton

3 ай бұрын

I don't think anybody is doubting Max is an amazing driver. But what people are not understanding is when the car is so much better than the other cars, many top drivers would win in the car. If Max was driving the Merc he would be 30 seconds behind Perez in the red bull. that's the point. Car first Driver second.

@stevenst6337

3 ай бұрын

@@rampageashton yeah F1 fans understand that bud no need to go into deep detail about car performance. Lewis had the best car for all of his championships. Schumacher had the best car, senna had the best car, and now Max does and suddenly everything he does is only because of the car but all of the greats are pure talent and no car performance! Pure mental gymnastics. Put ANY driver next to Max in the RB20, and they will not beat him. Lewis never managed to win more then 5 races in a row and Mercedes was 8 straight constructors champions. Even Rosberg had a 7 win streak at his time with Mercedes. Max is driving at a higher level than Lewis has ever achieved and it’s driving his fanboys nuts. So I’ll say it again, sure drivers could win in that car, but not even as close to the extent of what Max is doing. And if Max is still in that car, absolutely nobody beats him in the other one.

Quality as always with Mr. Windsor!

Amazing content, thank you for the video.

New to your channel. Love seeing someone asking all the right questions and letting the other person actually be able to answer without getting interrupted . Great interview!

Adrian can build the quickest horse. But only a few, maybe just Max can ride this horse.

@heru777media

3 ай бұрын

Delusional.

@daveruda

3 ай бұрын

No other top driver has been in that team since...Vettel!? The rest are rookies and midfield drivers

@Visual_Ghoul

3 ай бұрын

If you swap Max for one of the RB drivers, a Red Bull would finish first. Same as the Merc era

@Karma2Babylon

3 ай бұрын

Damon Nigel Prost Villeneuve (sort of) Mika Seb Max. No one else can drive a Newey car. Max’s fanbase are on another level

@wana.me003

3 ай бұрын

People act as if Newey hasn't created different championship winning cars for drivers. Then make the same argument and say it's the car that makes Lewis great and not his skills as a driver. Why not apply the same argument to Max? Can't have your cake and eat it.

Nice interview Cameron. Peter is a legend.

There are 5 design engineers working for RB and Piere Waché is the chief designer of the RB19 and RB20. (Not Adrian Newey)

@MrBashem

2 ай бұрын

People seem to think he makes the car all by himself.

Really like dual format guys. Thanks both ! Was wondering, I'm feeling I've not seen seen consistent negative rake before on Merc. this must affect the snaps we suffer no ?

Top stuff Cameron

I love Mr. Windsor's race analysis but sometimes I get the ick from his underlying hamilton fanboy statements

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

Peter is the goat. You'll understand the ad point better with a full watch

3 ай бұрын

@@CameronF1. i do watch your interviews to the end. like I said, I do like Windsors viewpoints, but you can sometimes smell the fanboy demeaner a tiny bit too much

@robertreinecker9007

3 ай бұрын

That’s called British bias. In my opinion most British journalists do it without even realizing

3 ай бұрын

@@robertreinecker9007 sadly yes

@sbGOM

3 ай бұрын

@@robertreinecker9007 I sometimes wish I could speak Dutch so I could listen to some unbiased opinions.

Hey cam, can we maybe get a playlist going with all of the peter Windsor interviews

I Always enjoy these, Thanks

Top quality analysis from the great Peter Windsor. @cam thank you for great content.

Thank you so much Cameron. What a quality channel you have. Smart, sensible and non-hyperbolic. lol - am I showing my age!!

I find that Windsor puts way too much emphasis on Newey. Let's not forget that Newey was also there during the non Championship winning years. Let's not forget that 2026 is not far away. If RBPT isn't as successful as RBR hopes then people like Max, who can get the absolute maximum out of a car and consistent results over a season, can very much make the difference. RBR wouldn't have won 2021 without Max. Let's remember that.

@brmh1667

2 ай бұрын

I find you put far too little emphasis on the power superiority of the earlier Mercedes unit. RBR wouldn't have won in 2021 without Michael Masi making them his pet charitable donation. Let's not forget that.

@rosek7114

2 ай бұрын

@@brmh1667 Oh I knew there was gonna be one of you sad little guys.... Do you people never get tired of yourselves? You know just as well as I do that had Max lost in AD21 it would've only been due to his bad luck that year, not his lack of performance. Keep up the crying though.

@Mick-np7bu

2 ай бұрын

Yeah if they had a top engine be would of been game over 💯

@paulmunster212

2 ай бұрын

FIA's gross incompetence or corruption (none of us can prove to what degree, either way) won RBR the World Championship.

@Dream-Academy

2 ай бұрын

It's the car more than anything. Is Riccardo great? No but he beat Verstappen for 2.5 years in the same car until he had 6 mechanical DNFs. Merc dominated because of their engine. Newy in that era gave RB the best handling car but it couldn't win consistently because of a slow weak and unreliable engine in Renault. Simple. Your arguments are baseless and not thought out.,

Great work sir....

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

Appreciate you FT 🙏🏾

Peter is the biggest Newey fan I’ve ever seen, so bear that in mind.

@ahmedzeidan6099

3 ай бұрын

For good reason.

@Andre_The_Millennial

3 ай бұрын

Peter was team manager at Williams when Newey was there. Why wouldn't he be a fan of him?@@ahmedzeidan6099

@michaeldellorso889

3 ай бұрын

@@ahmedzeidan6099 I’m a fan as well, but they’re friends

@seanhunt7750

3 ай бұрын

@@Andre_The_MillennialI agree. Adrian Newey is a genius and he's proven it time and again over many decades.

@michaeldellorso889

3 ай бұрын

@@seanhunt7750and yet Mercedes won eight consecutive championships over him.

Excellent interview Cameron, I love Peter! From “the bit of fluff” 1952 guy!🤣

I got to go but always a pleasure listening to you dude cheers🎉

Just thought I would mention that Peter is talking to the top of a microphone meant to be used from the side. The Rode pop filter is what he should be talking into. It will sound much better (less room sound). Sorry Peter, thought you might like to know.

@marcusstrymon693

3 ай бұрын

😂😂 Its kinda cute tho haha We love peter

@Buho641

3 ай бұрын

But then you can´t red the brand lol

@rdrewnelson539

3 ай бұрын

His struggle with technology is humorous. “ I’ve suddenly lost the ability to understand where I am going” Peter trying to display a Q&A on screen.

@Karma2Babylon

3 ай бұрын

Peter struggles with tech… Like most septuagenarians.

@TheKievKen

2 ай бұрын

It’s not like F1 requires any technological smarts, is it? Oh wait…

Doesn't anyone else find it interesting how Peter will lend charity to Lewis for having to "resort to driving longer corners to make the tires work", something he doesn't do for Lando when he was specifically asked if Lando was merely driving the car the way it was engineered to drive? Peter when asked, essentially dismissed the premise saying that he should just drive "short corners" even though he is likely to not have any data to back that up. Why can't it be that Lando was driving to the strengths of the car? Its especially interesting because Lando has talked multiple times in the past about the unique driving dynamics of the Mclaren that is something he has to drive around as he isn't able to drive in the way he pleases.

@the1gladiator2

3 ай бұрын

Windsor is narrative first facts second and if facts don't fit the narrative to hell with the facts. I wouldn't put that much stock in what he says, especially since he is incredibly biased. He will always invent an excuse for Hamilton. It is just a guarantee.

@SaintKimbo

2 ай бұрын

Yes, Peter's analysis is very good, but he does have his biases. The oldest cliche in Motor Racing is, that you have to beat your Team Mate, and to simply ignore the fact that Russell has spanked Lewis in both qualifying and the race, 2 races in a row, and STILL waffle on about how good Lewis is driving, or justify his less than stellar pace because the cars not that good, exposes that bias.

Thank you for this video,

This is by far the most insightful and easy to listen to F1 podcast, thank you gents

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

That means a lot Garden, really does. Thank you .

People are forgetting that Adrian is tied to Red Bull with his side projects. The yet to be released RB17 hypercar for instance...

Love it!! 👍

We had a similar jump start scenario a little while ago, can't remember the driver now, but the explanation at the time is that the car had been brought to a complete stop again before the lights changed. The different this time in Lando's case was it looked like he was outside his grid box when he stopped, but on the camera feeds I saw you could not see that he definitely was outside ..

This was great! Love a bit of PW

Whao! What an intro from Peter 👏👏👏

Fantastic listen as always.

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

Appreciate you Aldo 🙏🏾

Peter "important in F1, no committees, just get on with it." After hearing a broken record about 2021, again and again and again..Amazing defending Lando's start, yeah i bet he would say the same if Hamilton and Max were at the front and Max would move like that, its called double standards Peter, good luck with that broken record of yours.

Like many of us, I follow several subjects in depth on KZread, music, cars, politics, etc. I cannot think of another subject where I look to ONE PERSON for grounded wisdom like I do in racing with Peter. Thank you, Peter, and all the best!

Gotta love Peter’s honesty and loyalty.

We should have Peter and cam show every week

I think Newey deserves all the praise and credit but don't forget the entire team of engineers and specialists that work with him. He is an important part but not the end all be all you make him out to be. Don't forget these guys have all been taking notes off eachother as well. I think at this stage, Max is the more important chess piece. More likely it sounds you have something against Max, as if he was the reason for the result of 2021. And probably you dont like Jos either, which that is fair. But your judgment is very clouded at the moment sir.

Honestly most people are very much over Abu Dhabi 2021. Injustices happenin sports all the time. Even in 2021 there were even injustices in F1 that went Mercs way, they were just not in the final race. I think what we need is not a judicial procedure, but counseling for people who cannot get over it.

@SaintKimbo

2 ай бұрын

Windsor is just a Hamilton fanboy, it's the one flaw in his otherwise great analysis. Last race he was praising Lewis for his "amazing braking", this race, "oh, he's not going to push a car he's not comfortable in", he never mentions the fact that Russell is kicking his butt in the same car, lol.

@robertmailer4978

2 ай бұрын

Biggest fiddle I have seen in 30 years of follow F1, over the whole year max deserved it but not that way, put me off F1 in a big way

What made you choose between the two, is it that simple of an ultimatum?

45:30 If we go that route a disqualification of sir Hamilton for the 2021 Silverstone Grandprix for non sportsmanship behavior should be on the table as well since he admitted crashing in to sir Verstappen on purpose in front of the press for the whole world to see! I think the FIA also dropped the ball in that moment! Lets not forget that the incident could have been a career ending crash and that sir Verstappen was the only driver that was standing in between sir Hamilton and his 8th title that year which makes the whole situation suspicious!

fantastic program... insights into Alpine exposing corporate vs private enlightening.

@Karma2Babylon

3 ай бұрын

There’s a truly great horror movie to be made about Renault-Alpine. Could be box office stuff. Maybe

@turninflat

3 ай бұрын

agree, committees as opposed to real independent leaders @@Karma2Babylon

Thanks PW/Cam

Got that absolutely right about Abu Dhabi '21. Adjudication was a farce.

rewind the clock a bit , if seat option for CS @ Ferrari was still available and this BS with RB was playing out would they Ferrari have waited for MV to make a decision. Would MV and company be more inclined to leave RB, and would RB have canned CH by now.

The combination of Peter and you is rather unique. I really like your individual posts on the subject matter F1, but the 2 of you adds that bit of extra. Do not know how you guys met and starter together, but hope you continue this collaboration!

Not sure about this...did Newey work for Mercedes in 2017,18,19 and 20?

PW is a GOAT a true human being. Love his inputs always

@SaintKimbo

2 ай бұрын

Yes, he's very human like for a Goat.

Cameron, that was a great interview, but Max has a better-handling car. I know he's a generational talent, and he's totally dialed into a great car. I know Peter mentioned Fangio, but Jim Clark was on another level. Jimmy turned in early to corners and started braking when others stopped and kept the car perfectly balanced. In 1967, Graham Hill was his teammate 1967, and Jimmy won 4 GPs to Hill 0. The Lotus Mechanics would break down the gearboxes after the races, and Hill was shifting at the maximum 10,000 rpm, but Jimmy was shifting at 8500 and still smoking Hill on the track. Graham had to have his brake pads changed after every race Jimmy could go 3 races and never change his brake pads. Stirling Moss said he thought Jimmy was better than him but not as good as Fangio and Fangio said he thought Clark was better than him. Jimmy is the true Goat of F1 and Indy Car racing.

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

Omg LDT! What a brilliant comment. You're educating out here! Thank you. I think Peter would agree with you that Jimmy was indeed the apex predator, pun intended. And absolutely critical context re Max's car advantage. Though I think Vs Charles in quali at Jeddah, it might not have been so pronounced? Maybe.... 🤯😃

@Visual_Ghoul

3 ай бұрын

The Michael>Max@@user-qy2bp4me8i

@wana.me003

3 ай бұрын

LDT knows his stuff!

@charlesfaure1189

3 ай бұрын

@@user-qy2bp4me8i LOLOLOLOL. Clark and Fangio drove low-tech deathtraps on deadly, unsafe tracks, with no fireproof suits or crush zones in the cars. Drivers drove without seat belts because they didn't want to burn to death. No modern driver qualifies as GOAT, because they have much more easily-driveable and unimaginably safer vehicles, and pristine tracks--with expert crash response teams and top-of-the-line medical support. F1 can still be deadly--once in a blue moon--but Clark and Fangio were looking death in the face on every lap of every race.

@SaintKimbo

2 ай бұрын

@@charlesfaure1189 Yes, what could top Fangio's drive at the Nurburgring in 1957? He stopped for tires and had to chase down the 2 Ferrari's that were 30 seconds ahead in 10 laps. He broke the track lap record on 9 consecutive laps and passed them both to win, just incredible.

Would be nice if you too started a podcast together after every race

Who designed the car of Mercedes ( the winning car) any one know???? English press……

Big thanks Peter.

Another "Design miracle from newey" whilst its actually a fun fact that Wache and his team who is the lead designer, not Newey. This RB is not from Newey! British always tries to avoid giving credits to max.. where they always gave full credit to hamilton "another master class by lewis". Since Max or Alonso, its "look at how dominant the car is"' another "design miracle from Newey". They constantly repeat Newey and Milton Keynes.

peter knows his stuff! bit of a George Russel fan boy but overall hes very knowledgeable

10/10 top job guy's:)

Peter does great in these interviews

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

He's the best in the business

Why is Peter Windsor not the head of the F.I.A ?

Great show. Thank you Peter W the great. And thank you Cameron for letting him shine but interjecting with poignant questions with Verstappen-like timing.

A+ video top to bottom. Mr. Windsor is absolutely spot on that Adrian Newey is the most valuable member of RBR, and if Newey is tied to Horner, Horner is staying. The drivers that could win a WDC with the RB20 (Max, Alonso, Lewis, Norris, Piastri, and maybe Russel) is much longer than the list of car designers that can perfect the aero and suspension of a car (just Newey). If Max leaves RB, he may as well sit out until 2026 regs, because he won’t beat RB in a Merc.

@stableianF1oracle

3 ай бұрын

Max would win in a Haas.

@EntropicExergy

3 ай бұрын

Seeing as the RB is oversteering as can be, we can rule out Fernando and lulu, as they either prefer understeering or neutral cars. Norris is too weak in the mental department to fight for a championship, Piastri is too much of an unknown and Russell crashes into other cars too much. Without Max i don't see it happen, they would be stupid to get him out of RB.

@mmoscalu

3 ай бұрын

@@EntropicExergy I think Max is the best driver F1 has ever seen. I think his talent, concentration, and fearlessness, and dedication to his craft are light years ahead of most of his compatriots (Alonso is a close second). Max doesn’t just beat his teammates, he makes them question their will to live. That being said, if you put max in a 2024?Merc, he’s not winning a race. 2024 Ferrari? Maybe a couple over the season. If you put a B+ driver in the RB20, it would be a repeat of 2019 all over again with max screaming like a lunatic into his radio. Ending the season in 3rd. This is in no way a discredit to Max. It’s a credit to the car Newey built. Take Hamilton out of the W11, and replace him with any one of the following and you will get a WDC: Leclerc, Alonso, Max, even Kimi and Vettel.. That car was fantastic.

@EntropicExergy

3 ай бұрын

@@mmoscalu That's because merc was pure car dominance, with Max we are seeing what driver dominance means.

@dogs04

2 ай бұрын

@@EntropicExergy I agree - in this discussion about everybody that can also win in the RB, then they should be matched up against Max in that RB. And you are spot on; some drivers can not adapt sufficiently to the car's specifics and others don't have the skills now (maybe in the future) to beat Max in the championship fight in the same car.

I love Peter but I couldn’t disagree more with his take on Oscar and Alpine. If Alpine had a car that could be comfortably in the midfield then thats 1 thing. But what the hell is finishing P16 going to do for his career? Okay he beat ocon who finished p18 great, but he got to show none of his skill in qualifying or the race.

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

I hear you Hunter. But it might've worked out with Lewis moving. Peter is very rarely wrong

@hunter_t18

3 ай бұрын

@@CameronF1. but my point is how impressive would he be in a dog of a car. We know he is good because he’s been given a decent car (sometimes). If he was in a car with no chance at showcasing his abilities would he be on mercy radar to replace Lewis? Idk it’s an interesting thought exercise. Love your channel!

@sghitza1

2 ай бұрын

This is the dumbest thing ever. You have the choice of a 100% drive at McLaren. Who in the right mind would choose Alpine ? Contracts get bought out. Oscar didn't limit his options. It enhanced them by choosing McLaren.

Certainly some new and young talents waiting for their change to enter the F1. I guess in 2025 there could be some seats free: Magnussen, Hülkenberg... Sargeant, Ricciardo... Stroll... Alonso as a 'oldtimer' I would like to see him 1 or 2 years more driving and shining.

@SaintKimbo

2 ай бұрын

Just be different names racing midfield, for the 'best of the rest', bit depressing, really.

23:38 Peter is wrong here. Stroll crashed at Turn 22, the same corner he himself and Logan Sargeant hit earlier in the weekend.

Strongly agree that the double move rule is silly. It is truly part of racing.

So where are these texts that are said to be leaked and the proof they're real? I can't find them on the net. This is a pathetic bunch of conjecture at this point. Sad stuff. People too often act poorly. I love the racing and just have to trudge through these destructive distractions. I still have Moto GP !!!

Peters love of Lewis undermines his arguments. Russell will destroy Lewis this year in exactly the same car yet Lewis’s driving is always used as an example when Lewis isn’t an example of a great driver.

@andrewbragg504

3 ай бұрын

i don't think lewis will even try this year his heads at ferrari already and could you please explain why the driver with the records for most wins most poles most podiums and sits equal first for most drivers championships isn't an example of a great driver?

@stableianF1oracle

3 ай бұрын

@@andrewbragg504 Well that’s the best excuse yet 😂😂😂 Lewis won’t try this year. You talk about his move to Ferrari as if that’s the start of him winning again. 😂😂😂 He will just be an embarrassment to Ferrari and even more so when he can’t do anything in the car so decides he won’t bother trying in the Ferrari either. In 4 races Max will pass Lewis for more wins percentage wise for the number of races taken part in and in 2026 Max will have more wins than Lewis in total. It’s only a couple of years till Lewis has nothing to be proud of. 😂😂

@andrewbragg504

3 ай бұрын

@@stableianF1oracle and what? You said that like I'd be bothered if that happens I'll agree with you I can see it happen I'm not ashamed to show appreciation for a good driver n team when I see it but for some reason people like you think it some how makes you better than everyone else for thinking it

@stableianF1oracle

3 ай бұрын

@@andrewbragg504 Support who you like that’s fine but don’t come on here saying stupid things and expect me to agree. Lewis isn’t ever going to win again ok unless 19 other drivers don’t show up. Lewis has smashed into so many drivers because he lacks skill and spacial awareness. For you to state Lewis gets in the car and when the lights go green Lewis pulls away in 4th gear and isn’t bothered is a silly remark. He’s trying his hardest but he just isn’t fast. Strange how Russell qualifies so well and races so well isn’t it in exactly the same car. Wonder why. Oh I know …. Russell is a faster driver.

@andrewbragg504

3 ай бұрын

@@stableianF1oracle I can come on what I want n say what I want I don't need your permission Mr random person on KZread now can you please explain why the driver with the most wins most poles most podiums and sits equal first for drivers championships is slow?

I cannot escape the feeling that Peter is not happy about Abu Dhabi 2021 😂😂 And I think Pierre Wache is more important to Red Bull than Newy nowadays

>> Another 5 STAR PODCAST,,, CAMERON..!!! YOUR BUDDY WAS GREAT AS ALWAYS... THANKS...!!!

Thank peter for bringing up the F*ck up of abu dabi 2021.

@SoapboxRacer

2 ай бұрын

He mentions it in his every other video lost a big bet that day I guess.

@SaintKimbo

2 ай бұрын

Hamilton Fanboys won't stop crying, is what it is, lol.

@dogs04

2 ай бұрын

@@SaintKimbo they continue to be upset about Masi's human error, but never blame Lewis for his human error in Baku 🙂

Who is the race director for Mercedes or I must say chief strategist?

Isn't it shocking to realize that some of the F1 media are preoccupied by trying to destroy the RB F1 team unity .......... almost at any cost. That SUCKS big time.

i love the comments of mr. windsor. BUT, i wonder if he still would be talking about AD21 if Lewis would hve won it.

@user-uw2mm4rj5x

3 ай бұрын

No, he wouldn't because than it would be all in line with what the teambosses decided after the 2012 finale and therefor justified.

@BlackNuke145

3 ай бұрын

Why would you talk about "the biggest scandal in sporting history" if it didn't happen 🤔

@Rongitaar-abc

3 ай бұрын

@@BlackNuke145 not a scandal at all !!, mercedses robbed 70 points from max with their bowlingstrikes (and not forget the undeserved penaties max got) and the ridiculous low 10 sec penalty for lewis in silverstone 2021 and the big masi fia gift into the 3 race 2021 after lewis his crash !! if lewis had won the 2021 title that would be the biggest f1 scandal ever , wake up dude

@Bramagon

3 ай бұрын

@@Rongitaar-abcDon't forget how they were abusing the regulations at the end by bringing a fresh engine every weekend so they could turn it up to 11 and have a massive power advantage. With the new engine rules they would never have been able to make the comeback they did lol..

@BlackNuke145

3 ай бұрын

@@Rongitaar-abc Don't make me laugh, Max had been torpedoing every move forcing drivers off track, and getting away with it. He put himself into that wall attempting to pass the very move he was pulling 3 corners prior. He did the same in Monza, writing off both cars. the same in Brazil, and attempted the same in Abu Dhabi, which Lewis rightfully just got out of! How Verstappen did not receive a black flag for clear brake testing in Jedda is a madness! Lest we forget the gifted points for 3 laps at Spa! He was well beaten in AD21 until the powers at be manipulated the end result!

Absolutely !!!!

Rocket Max going nowhere

maybe you should run the RBR team

That whole season the penalties were super inconsistent. Worse than before '21 and worse than after '21. In the end the right driver got the title. Lewis had also got quite a few 'get out of jail for free/very little cards' that season. All siad and done i think that it was a fair result with Max WDC and Merc WCC.

@blindade1

3 ай бұрын

You kidding me? the right driver got the title and you think it was a fair result??? were the roles reversed where max was leading and toto pressured masi for one more lap to give Hamilton a chance to pass max, would you have still said it was a fair result??? your missing the point that this isn't about max and Lewis but about sportsmanship and fairness... in 1989 Senna was unfairly punished during the title decider in suzuka against Prost, all because prost is French and the FIA president at the time was also french and good friends with prost... i supposed you'll tell me that in that incident the right man got the title too??? forget max or Lewis, and put anyone else in their place so there's no bias, what happened in that title decider was corruption at a very high level end of story regardless of who won and who lost.

@SaintKimbo

2 ай бұрын

@@blindade1 Corruption???? Who benefitted from Max winning???? Why can't you Hamilton Fanboys (don't deny it), just accept the fact that, flawed as it was, they just wanted to see the 2 title Contenders duke it out at the end of the race? It could not have possibly been pre planned, and it could have gone either way, get over it.

So Charles is a shoo-in for a championship as Max’ replacement but Sainz is not? One of the dumbest takes I’ve ever heard. I’m sorry, Windsor may know his stuff but, as a commentator he is hopelessly lost in his own biases.

@EntropicExergy

3 ай бұрын

Leclerc is too error prone, would bottle it in a few races time, not to mention his lack of skills in the wet. From the entire grid, Max is the only guy they need at RB as far as drivers go.

@rulifaller8474

3 ай бұрын

You are right about the biases, but I would definitely agree that Sainz is less of a shoe in. You are probably judging him on his best performances, but he also has periods every heart that he gets a bit lost and is way behind Leclerc. That would be his problem. Of course he could win the championship in this RB, but he could just as well be unable to deal with its characteristics just like Checo, and in a straight fight he would never beat Max

@bencopeland3560

3 ай бұрын

@@rulifaller8474 the question isn’t whether he’d be able to beat Max in the other Red Bull seat, it’s whether he’d beat Max who is off at Mercedes or somewhere else. Two points on that. First, in three years at Ferrari Sainz is neck and neck with Leclerc and is the only one of the two to have won races the past two seasons. Consensus view is that Charles is a bit quicker in terms of pure pace while Sainz is smarter, more consistent and with better race craft. Leclerc is also prone to frequently crash out of qualifying and/or GP’s which would certainly be no better in the wilder RB ride. Second point on this is that Checko was second in the drivers championship last year - even with the dismal sting of failures through the mid season. So to say Sainz wouldn’t win is to say that he couldn’t improve on Checo’s terrible performance. That is just not credible and it diminishes Windsor as a commentator.

@EntropicExergy

3 ай бұрын

@@bencopeland3560 With both Perez' and Sainz' tendency for an understeering car, they wouldn't stand much of a chance. With the upgrade and development path they would desire, Max definitely has a shot at fighting and probably beating them for the championship. They would lead to a slower car, that would fall from a league of its own to fighting other cars like ferrari, merc or the Mclaren. Max could definitely beat them in another car.

@bencopeland3560

3 ай бұрын

@@EntropicExergy I think you’re making a separate point. This isn’t really about how Max would do elsewhere. Windsor’s frame for his statement is that Newey’s engineering is the star and that Max wouldn’t be able to overcome the deficiencies of the other team’s cars against good drivers (not my claim, Windsor’s). Only he’s carving out an exception to say that the guy who’s shown to be just as effective as Leclerc at Ferrari, the guy who Ferrari just let go of in favor of Hamilton, wouldn’t be able to accomplish the task that is a no-brainer for his favorite drivers. That isn’t credible and I’m saying it’s obviously put forth in the service of Leclerc and Hamilton who he constantly fanboy’s over. I’m sorry but the delta he imagines between Charles and Sainz just doesn’t exist. It’s been proven now over three seasons.

Abu Dabi was the best moment in f1 history for sure😂❤

@heru777media

3 ай бұрын

Abu Dhabi spell it correctly Deadbull fan.

@EntropicExergy

3 ай бұрын

@@heru777media Since you can't even spell a team's name right, you'd better just STFU. You clown.

@Haarlemmer81

2 ай бұрын

​@@heru777media toxic Lewis fans should be silent And cry in a corner 😂😂😂

I guess now Alpine should have to change there name yet again! Less croissants and espressos and more racing would be the order of the day!

I love how utterly broken some people are by AD21, despite it being a simple mistake of not letting the cars through one lap earlier and rightly correcting that mistake. Your god lost fair and square, and the only reason it was even close was because of tactical crashes by merc earlier in the season.

@TL-xw6fh

2 ай бұрын

You are right. Time to move on. My motto has always been "Learn from the past to build for the future".

@harveyspecter1653

2 ай бұрын

Cars are not allowed to pass SC when marshalls are on track. Seems Max fans keep inventing more excuses and inventing rules on the fly to justify why their unjust win was justified. it was not. We all know that. You know too.

Christian did say to Liam”your time will come”.

Have you seen the rear wing on the Merc in Jeddah? It was half of the surface of the Mclaren. You don’t need a master degree in aero that that will kill you. Their correlation between the sim and track is totaly below what an F1 team should be able to produce. Wonder if they really understand what they are doing. They correlation at RB is almost bulls eye….hint…AI from oracle

2021 is resolved, Max beat lulu with an inferior car which does make Max the better driver. Add Newey and, as you can see, you get an unbeatable combination. No word on the poor strategy of mercedes of not getting fresh tires .If they did they'd won. Peter really does lack a lot of insight and is still not done licking his wounds. Move on!

While Newey is a preeminent car designer, the thing to keep in mind is Max and Checo are driving the same car. Checo is quite a skilled driver and in the same car, we already know what the results are between the two drivers. By the evidence, it's Max making the car look unbeatable, not Newey.

"Lawrence is a good guy." seriously, Peter?

But on the other hand Peter, what's the motivation for Lance Stroll to keep Aston Martin given the general performance of his son !

I disagree, they MUST and WILL keep both 😉

Still on 2021?? And why will Newey want to work with someone lesser than Max? As an engineer you want your creation to be utilized at its best.

If 2021 is the biggest robbery in sport , what about the 2008 season robbery?

@ReggaeWise

3 ай бұрын

True 2008 was on purpose

@kevindwelle1625

2 ай бұрын

Honestly! F1 has proven to be nothing more then a "Human Error" sport ever since AD 2021...

@payvathiago

2 ай бұрын

Two completely different episodes. 2021: the stewards made up a new rule x a team manipulating a result.

How did Mercedes manage to stay inside the Budget Cap', in 2021, after all the major upgrades throughout the season & then managed to find the money to give LH a new '$10 million dollar' engine to burn over the last 3 races?? Like Max wisely says 'It is what it is & you can't change it, so let's forget about it & move on'.

@SaintKimbo

2 ай бұрын

Agreed, ask Maradona or John McEnroe about dodgy calls. Every sport has it's moments when the Refs or the Umpires make crucial errors it's all a pat of life, get over it, Hammo Fanboys.

@midas7394

2 ай бұрын

@@SaintKimboVery well stated. Like Max said 'It is what is and we can't change it, so let's move on'.

Lit 2021 was not a scandal face it that was the end of Lewis and those behind him like you …. Live with it

@CameronF1.

3 ай бұрын

FIA. Lessons learned. Is the point

@Andre_The_Millennial

3 ай бұрын

It was a scandal, just like Singapore 2008 was a scandal. BUT people really should move on.

@jeremiahhoagland9958

3 ай бұрын

Mercedes has sucked since 21. Lewis was the 2nd best driver last year and the drivers backed that up with their voting. He will win again when he gets the car

@heru777media

3 ай бұрын

@@jeremiahhoagland9958Facts!

Over the last 2 seasons, GR has proved that he is the Mercedes team's weakest link as he is not a team player & believes that cheating, by deliberately overtaking 'off track', is acceptable as the punishment was easy to turn into a joke.

@andrewbragg504

3 ай бұрын

He's a little grass to he was straight on the radio to tell the team norris jumped started like the stewards never noticed

The big difference is the car not the driver so match good driver with a good car and your in the race

Take one brick out and the whole jenga tower comed down, i think it is a team effort, pretty amazing what we are witnessing. Ferrari cant get this kind of team together it seems (they had it with schumacher team, after Schumi it was gone)

Yes Peter if it comes to that Max go's and Adrian stays along with Horner.

With a second safety car considering the remaining part of the race the hard would change to soft so who is right.