Love your videos dude.. Thank you so much for all you do. As a 40 year old who just got skating again after 20 yours, these videos are priceless.

@backyardtrials

8 ай бұрын

I feel you there, I’ve just started skating at 40, these vids are awesome and so informative

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Happy to help you all, please consider donating and sharing the channel with others who need it to keep the channel going 🛹🙏🏽🛹

@marsbase3729

7 ай бұрын

yeah dude, I'm 50 and just got back into skating after being away for about 15 years and videos like this are really helping to shake off the rust. Keep rolling brother! 👍😎👍

@fredbayiv4144

2 ай бұрын

Lol I'm 47 and just started again. Glad to see I'm not the only one

JB-You saved my skateboarding journey. When the gyms closed during Covid, I picked up a skateboard that was sitting around my brother’s garage. I’ve been riding consistently ever since. I’ve picked up some tricks along the way and started riding transition. The goal was a proper BS 50/50 by 50. At 49 years old, with the help of watching your videos over and over, I have gotten a few 50/50s in actual bowl runs. I can’t thank you enough, and this video allows me to throw a bit more gratitude and praise your way. I’ve been battling the Ollie since the day I found that board in my brother’s garage. I actually considered quitting a few weeks before this video because I was so frustrated with the Ollie. I’ve had to of topped 10,000 attempts. I made it over 4 boards at one point, but the Ollie was never controlled or consistent. They always were a prayer, and I guess even the controlled Ollies are still a form of prayer, but that’s a whole other conversation. The rolling instead of dragging has been a huge difference maker. I always turned the board heel side, and I think that focusing on it being a roll of the ankle, rather than a drag has made a huge difference. Also, tightening the trucks made the timing more consistent. It’s really starting to FEEL like an Ollie. Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast. Thank you, and never stop making these videos.

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Thank You so much Jason! 🛹🙌🏽🛹 I really appreciate your kindness and support. You’re welcome to watch all the amazing videos on this channel to get inspired and learn! All my videos come from 20+ years of teaching experience and cost a lot of time & money to make. I put them all together to build this one of a kind skate channel to educate and inspire You! 💙 If you’d like to give back with extra thanks, Please help fund our mission of free educational skate videos, become a monthly Member, or Donate. 🙏🏽 -Donation details are in the description box of each video, please share this channel with your friends and add us on social media! @SkateParkLessons and tag yourself skating #SkateParkLessons *Have a great Skate! 💙🛹🙏🏽🛹💙

This is really helpful: seeing the trick in different speeds/slomo and from multiple angles, combined with watching progression.

@SkateparkLessons

7 ай бұрын

Thank You so much Tim! 🛹🙌🏽🛹 I really appreciate your kindness and support. You’re welcome to watch all the amazing videos on this channel to get inspired and learn! All my videos come from 20+ years of teaching experience and cost a lot of time & money to make. I put them all together to build this one of a kind skate channel to educate and inspire You! 💙 If you’d like to give back with extra thanks, Please help fund our mission of free educational skate videos, become a monthly Member, or Donate. 🙏🏽 -Donation details are in the description box of each video, please share this channel with your friends and add us on social media! @SkateParkLessons and tag yourself skating #SkateParkLessons *Have a great Skate! 💙🛹🙏🏽🛹💙

The timing of this video is perfect as I'm working on my ollie at the moment.

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

💙🛹🙌🏽🛹💙

15:37 that one was almost perfect. Smooth. "One more" and "last try" are probably every skater's most used phrases :-) Good job, as usual.

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🛹😁🛹

I like the rolling the front foot, everyone else I hear or watch say about flicking it. It seems more natural your way plus less time setting up. Thank you. 47 and relearning to skate after 30+ years grateful for the help.

@termikes174

8 ай бұрын

Stay with it brother! Seems JB’s videos are popular with our demographic 😂

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it Colin, wishing you all the best on your board. 🛹🙏🏽🛹

@fredbayiv4144

2 ай бұрын

47 and same. ✊️✊️ I'm trying.

Awesome, wholesome, positive vibes.

@SkateparkLessons

Ай бұрын

GOALS 💙🛹💙

Thank you JB!!! I think you are best teacher in youtube !!! ❤

@SkateparkLessons

4 ай бұрын

Thank You so much Dmitry! 🛹🙌🏽🛹 I really appreciate your kindness and support. You’re welcome to watch all the amazing videos on this channel to get inspired and learn! All my videos come from 20+ years of teaching experience and cost a lot of time & money to make. I put them all together to build this one of a kind skate channel to educate and inspire You! 💙 If you’d like to give back with extra thanks, Please help fund our mission of free educational skate videos, become a monthly Member, or Donate. 🙏🏽 -Donation details are in the description box of each video, please share this channel with your friends and add us on social media! @SkateParkLessons and tag yourself skating #SkateParkLessons *Have a great Skate! 💙🛹🙏🏽🛹💙

So cool. Thanks for the video and congratulations to your student.

@SkateparkLessons

3 ай бұрын

🙌🏽🛹💙🛹🙌🏽

Thanks JB!! I’ve been trying to get better at them and I believe by watching this I figured out what I need to correct.. you’re the best man! Thank you!!

@SkateparkLessons

7 ай бұрын

Thank You so much! I really appreciate your kindness and support. You’re welcome to watch all the amazing videos on this channel to get inspired and learn! All my videos come from 20+ years of teaching experience and cost a lot of time & money to make. I put them all together to build this one of a kind skate channel to educate and inspire You! 💙 If you’d like to give back with extra thanks, Please help fund our mission of free educational skate videos, become a monthly Member, or Donate. 🙏🏽 -Donation details are in the description box of each video, please share this channel with your friends and add us on social media! @SkateParkLessons and tag yourself skating #SkateParkLessons *Have a great Skate! 💙🛹🙏🏽🛹💙

Dude you are the best, thank you from argentina!

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

💙🛹🙌🏽🇦🇷🙌🏽🛹💙

JB is so hype, man. Anyone can easily learn from him. Great job on this video!

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🛹🙏🏽🛹

Nice video, homie legit landed in crack and totally rolled out of it. Looked like a pro. Lean forward!

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

💙🛹🙌🏽🛹💙

Great progress in 1 sesh! Thanks!

@SkateparkLessons

7 ай бұрын

🛹🙌🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽🛹

the point about bailing forward being less sketchy is really helpful

@SkateparkLessons

2 ай бұрын

🛹🙌🏽🛹

First! Thanks for the awsm upload as always ❤

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🛹🙌🏽🛹

man your such a good teacher

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🛹🙏🏽🛹

very useful & important vid. kudos

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙌🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽

Thanks JB!

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🛹🙌🏽🛹

As usual Thank you JB, and Michael for taking the time to teach us and give us something to try on our own for those of us still learning. 🙏🤙

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

💙🛹🙌🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽🛹💙

That was awesome progress. Mike's about 1 week of practicing away from landing that 95-98% of the time with smooth run-outs the rest.

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🛹🙌🏽🛹

I need to start getting up a curb. Thanks JB

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

💙🛹💙

I’ve got the ollie but it’s always good to improve it

This video is full of great advice. I had built up a pretty good ollie over the summer up curbs to about say 8" approximately but then when I returned to Japan I just seemed to lose it, so what I found was exactly as stated in this video, reduce the power and concentrate on foot set up, and now it's slowly becoming consistent again over one 8" board's height. Not gonna win any awards but at 40 years old I'm happy with my progress :) I only want to ollie enough to get up on a ledge anyway.Gonna try tightening my trucks tomorrow just to see what effect that has, as I ride them loose too for transition.

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Thank You so much! I really appreciate your kindness and support. You’re welcome to watch all the amazing videos on this channel to get inspired and learn! All my videos come from 20+ years of teaching experience and cost a lot of time & money to make. I put them all together to build this one of a kind skate channel to educate and inspire You! 💙 If you’d like to give back with extra thanks, Please help fund our mission of free educational skate videos, become a monthly Member, or Donate. 🙏🏽 -Donation details are in the description box of each video, please share this channel with your friends and add us on social media! @SkateParkLessons and tag yourself skating #SkateParkLessons *Have a great Skate! 💙🛹🙏🏽🛹💙

Ay man... At first I wanna say thank you for that upload. And guess what, I am working on my Ollie for last couple of days. In my place its still night. At morning I will get up and try it again by following your tips and tricks.

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

💙🛹🙌🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽🛹💙

Very helpful. I feel like I’m around where your student is with my Ollie. I know when I can hop up a curb it’ll change my life

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Thank You so much! I really appreciate your kindness and support. You’re welcome to watch all the amazing videos on this channel to get inspired and learn! All my videos come from 20+ years of teaching experience and cost a lot of time & money to make. I put them all together to build this one of a kind skate channel to educate and inspire You! 💙 If you’d like to give back with extra thanks, Please help fund our mission of free educational skate videos, become a monthly Member, or Donate. 🙏🏽 -Donation details are in the description box of each video, please share this channel with your friends and add us on social media! @SkateParkLessons and tag yourself skating #SkateParkLessons *Have a great Skate! 💙🛹🙏🏽🛹💙

Thanks Josh! I’m currently working on getting my Ollie back. Perfect timing!

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🛹🙌🏽🛹

I love your vids and this one is exactly where I am at. I really appreciate what you are doing! 👊🏻

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Thank You so much! 🛹🙌🏽🛹 I really appreciate your kindness and support. You’re welcome to watch all the amazing videos on this channel to get inspired and learn! All my videos come from 20+ years of teaching experience and cost a lot of time & money to make. I put them all together to build this one of a kind skate channel to educate and inspire You! 💙 If you’d like to give back with extra thanks, Please help fund our mission of free educational skate videos, become a monthly Member, or Donate. 🙏🏽 -Donation details are in the description box of each video, please share this channel with your friends and add us on social media! @SkateParkLessons and tag yourself skating #SkateParkLessons *Have a great Skate! 💙🛹🙏🏽🛹💙

Dang, what amazing coaching! Thousands of Vids on KZread but none are anywhere near as helpful as this one. 🤙

@SkateparkLessons

4 ай бұрын

Thank You so much Iven! 🛹🙌🏽🛹 I really appreciate your kindness and support. You’re welcome to watch all the amazing videos on this channel to get inspired and learn! All my videos come from 20+ years of teaching experience and cost a lot of time & money to make. I put them all together to build this one of a kind skate channel to educate and inspire You! 💙 If you’d like to give back with extra thanks, Please help fund our mission of free educational skate videos, become a monthly Member, or Donate. 🙏🏽 -Donation details are in the description box of each video, please share this channel with your friends and add us on social media! @SkateParkLessons and tag yourself skating #SkateParkLessons *Have a great Skate! 💙🛹🙏🏽🛹💙

You're such a good teacher, JB. Thanks for this video. 👊🏻

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Thank you Cory, please help me share this channel with your friends 💙🛹💙

I had to come back to this since after seeing this and your other older ollie videos, my ollies improved so much. My foot placement was off before as well as me not bending my knees much when I start the ollie. I also had my foot flat and not really aligned with each other so that also caused some issues. After addressing all those thanks to your videos, my ollies are way more better and look more fluid! Now it's just practice and getting them down while moving too. Thank you so much for these videos, I really love how you teach every aspect. Ended up having so much momentum after doing the ollies I just kept practicing and practicing. Ended my weekend on a very good note!

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Thank You so much Popo! 🛹🙌🏽🛹 I really appreciate your kindness and support. You’re welcome to watch all the amazing videos on this channel to get inspired and learn! All my videos come from 20+ years of teaching experience and cost a lot of time & money to make. I put them all together to build this one of a kind skate channel to educate and inspire You! 💙 If you’d like to give back with extra thanks, Please help fund our mission of free educational skate videos, become a monthly Member, or Donate. 🙏🏽 -Donation details are in the description box of each video, please share this channel with your friends and add us on social media! @SkateParkLessons and tag yourself skating #SkateParkLessons *Have a great Skate! 💙🛹🙏🏽🛹💙

Thanks so much! These kind of video show the progress and the mistakes during learning help a lot!

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

You’re welcome, that’s why I make them. Special thanks to my clients for allowing me to share their lessons to everyone 💙🛹💙

Videos from you are always good news!.Very usable tips!

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🙏🏽🛹🙌🏽🛹🙏🏽

Wow you're a amazing teacher! 🎉

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Thanks brother 🛹🙌🏽🛹

I WANT A SKATE LESSON FROM YOU 🥺

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🛹🙌🏽🛹

Brilliant as always JB! Thank you from the UK 🤝

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Thank you Andrew 🛹🙌🏽🇬🇧🙌🏽🛹

I like the start

@SkateparkLessons

2 ай бұрын

🛹💙🙏🏽😊🙏🏽💙🛹

Thanks!

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

I appreciate you Mike! 🛹🙏🏽🛹

@termikes174

8 ай бұрын

@@SkateparkLessons thanks for the shout out and Thank you for playing such a big part in skateboarding! Look forward to seeing more!

Dude. Love your vids. I'm a 44 y/o Dad who picked it up to do with his kid. You've been amazing. Even though I'm still super new - you're my go to for info and technique

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Thank You so much Jason! 🛹🙌🏽🛹 I really appreciate your kindness and support. You’re welcome to watch all the amazing videos on this channel to get inspired and learn! All my videos come from 20+ years of teaching experience and cost a lot of time & money to make. I put them all together to build this one of a kind skate channel to educate and inspire You! 💙 If you’d like to give back with extra thanks, Please help fund our mission of free educational skate videos, become a monthly Member, or Donate. 🙏🏽 -Donation details are in the description box of each video, please share this channel with your friends and add us on social media! @SkateParkLessons and tag yourself skating #SkateParkLessons *Have a great Skate! 💙🛹🙏🏽🛹💙

@jasondevaladares8391

8 ай бұрын

@@SkateparkLessons You will 100% see some donations come your way.

Fantastic! Since I started messing around on transitions my ollies etc have very much taken a back seat. Now that I’m rolling again I think I need to revisit them. I was never great at them but seeing how that fella progressed through this video has certainly inspired me 🤙😎

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Glad to see you’re back in action 💙🛹💙

@shaundavies314

8 ай бұрын

@@SkateparkLessons Cj]hers mate. Hopefully getting a good stoke on the pump track yesterday will lead to me hitting the park again 😎

Thanks for the excellent video! I envy your weather with a big open skatepark.

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much 🛹🙏🏽🛹

Thanks

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

THANK YOU SO MUCH JASON. 💙🛹🙌🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽🛹💙

Nice

Thank you for nice videos

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

💙🛹🙌🏽🛹💙

I started wearing those types of vans with no ankle protection and I’ve been rolling my foot like crazy 😪but it feels so much more comfortable

@SkateparkLessons

Ай бұрын

Yes, be careful as slip ons give very minimal support. It’s almost like wearing slippers, but the board feel is amazing 🛹 keep skating and having fun, wishing you all the best 💙🛹💙

I'm 41 skating for 2 years. This video is what I needed to hear I'm popping too hard.. my standing Ollie is good but the rolling one needs work.. thanks for the video

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

💙🛹🙌🏽🛹💙

I was gassed when he landed it up the curb well done brother keep going

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Thanks Joseph 🛹🙌🏽🛹 please help me share this channel with your friends to help inspire others 🙏🏽

Well done Mike 😁👍

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

💙🙌🏽💙

Just the tutorial I was looking for, it’s kind of funny I can go off of the three and four stairs, but still struggle Ollieing up the curb🙏🏻🤙🏼😎

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

You can do it! Keep practicing and pop harder

@taterstoolboxskates

8 ай бұрын

@@SkateparkLessons think I need to bring my front foot back just a touch, helps me clear the curb🙏🏻thanks JB!

wow so good ❤

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🛹🙌🏽🙏🏽🙌🏽🛹 Thanks brother!

Good job my man

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🛹🙌🏽🛹

great stuff.

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🛹🙏🏽🛹

Love your videos man I've got my son to watch to try improve his basics I'm not as experienced as I'd not skated in 27yrs when he asked if I'd get a board an skate with him. I was never too good as a kid but my ollies were solid as I was a send it down stair sets type. I've landed a few healflips this summer but still can't kickflip I'm closer to a tre than a kickflip

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Glad you’re skating with your son 💙🛹💙

The hardest part is looking at the curve. Most people do tricks staring at their deck

@SkateparkLessons

7 ай бұрын

You can do both as you build control from practicing 🛹🙌🏽🛹

Hi JB! thanks for all of this work that you make. Its possible that you make a tutorial for bs and fs tailstall and tailslide?

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

💙🙌🏽🛹🙌🏽💙

I wish, I had this when I was young, there was nothing.

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

💙🛹💙

Thanks man for doing another tutorial without the live lesson though both are great

@SkateparkLessons

7 ай бұрын

Thank You so much! I really appreciate your kindness and support. You’re welcome to watch all the amazing videos on this channel to get inspired and learn! All my videos come from 20+ years of teaching experience and cost a lot of time & money to make. I put them all together to build this one of a kind skate channel to educate and inspire You! 💙 If you’d like to give back with extra thanks, Please help fund our mission of free educational skate videos, become a monthly Member, or Donate. 🙏🏽 -Donation details are in the description box of each video, please share this channel with your friends and add us on social media! @SkateParkLessons and tag yourself skating #SkateParkLessons *Have a great Skate! 💙🛹🙏🏽🛹💙

Awesome, most helpful skate videos as always. Currently working on moving Ollie's but I keep landing on the nose and slamming.. so much pain 😂

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Remember to not try so hard in the beginning and consistently bend down into your landing 💙🛹💙

@reece3163

8 ай бұрын

@@SkateparkLessons thanks man, as usual this was the little golden advice I needed. I definitely wasn't bending my legs enough when landing and it's made a huge difference. The biggest thing though is not trying to hard.. it reminded me of when I played football (soccer) as a kid, I could always curve the ball into the box perfectly, unless I tried to kick too hard and all of my technique went to poop. Felt like I leveled up again last night, thanks again dude

"start at half turn" me a speed wobble enthusiast : *sweating intensifies*

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🛹😂🛹😝🛹

You explain things very easily, and your extensive experience and knowledge make it so natural for me to understand amazing content, and it is helping me so much.

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Thank You so much Jim! 🛹🙌🏽🛹 I really appreciate your kindness and support. You’re welcome to watch all the amazing videos on this channel to get inspired and learn! All my videos come from 20+ years of teaching experience and cost a lot of time & money to make. I put them all together to build this one of a kind skate channel to educate and inspire You! 💙 If you’d like to give back with extra thanks, Please help fund our mission of free educational skate videos, become a monthly Member, or Donate. 🙏🏽 -Donation details are in the description box of each video, please share this channel with your friends and add us on social media! @SkateParkLessons and tag yourself skating #SkateParkLessons *Have a great Skate! 💙🛹🙏🏽🛹💙

Hey JB love the videos. Can you do one on backside blunts on transition? I'm stuck on these

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Watch my blunt videos and once you lock in pop out with a half backside kickturn into an axle stall. Then once that’s easy lean in more and more kickturn for bs blunt 🛹💙🛹

@toddgrowns7864

8 ай бұрын

@@SkateparkLessons thanks man

You got a vid for wall rides or impossibles?

I'm gonna practice TY!!! BTW do you happen to have students like me who have trouble riding both stances? Regular is a no-no for me so I'm always on my default position, not sure it's normal (people just tell me they just naturaly change when the want...) Have fun!!!

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

You’re welcome, yes most everyone has trouble riding both stances. Stick with what feels most comfortable and keep practicing your basics.Use my videos to help learn and understand techniques. 💙🛹💙

So what you're telling me is, Liam Hemsworth and Shia Labouf had a skate baby.

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🤷🏼‍♂️

@bakedbeings

8 ай бұрын

@@SkateparkLessons Your student homie is like the AI generated combo image of those two 😂

ı am also bad at ollie but i want to share what i see in first ollie, basicly what happened is when he pop the tail board goes little bit front side thats why he couldnt flat the board with his front foot. like i said i am not an expert or something but this is what i saw

@SkateparkLessons

5 ай бұрын

Thanks 💙🛹💙

hey i really do not have anything to tighting my trucks pls send a skate tool

@SkateparkLessons

7 ай бұрын

Use an adjustable wrench or 9/16 or 14mm 🔧 wrench. Available at any hardware store. You probably own one of those already! 😊

@user-xf3bi7bw4t

7 ай бұрын

@@SkateparkLessons ohhh yh tnx

you should correct the back foot position of our student dude...

toivottavasti Minäkin Oppisin Tekemään Paremmin Ollien.

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

💙🛹💙

JB nooooooooooooo.. where's your hair gone??

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

Had to cut it for Fire Academy 👨‍🚒

Great work Micheal! I loved the encouragement from the father. So awesome. I have a little technique that I found to help my ollie. I dont push straight down when I pop, like Ive been told. I found that when I pop, I like to push the tail back and down, which brings the board up to my foot. rather than 90 degrees straight down I like 45 degree back. try it out, and as your coach what he thinks of that. JB is the best coach out there, so trust what he tells you. JB, I would love to find your cheat code for you ollie. They are so crisp, clean, and powerful. I dont know if Im gonna be able to skate long enough to really lock it down, because Im starting to get arthritis in my feel. Im 48 and I picked it back up and practiced hard regularly the last couple years, and now I think I went too hard. You have helped me immensely, and I want you to know I really do appreciate you, being out there so often teaching this skill to all walks of life. Its clear you put your heart into this. Thank You. Ps. I was looking at the cars in the lot and was like that has to be JB's van. Am I right or am I right? 😆 🛹💙

@SkateparkLessons

7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much, yes good observation, your technique helps as you start rolling and learning to perfect Ollie’s. Holding a fence or learning from a stop, it’s better straight down. Keep up your practicing and enjoy the ride! 🛹🙌🏽🛹

Great resources, lesson and tips! 🤍

@SkateparkLessons

8 ай бұрын

🛹👨‍🚒🛹

@jacquelinejuana34

8 ай бұрын

@@SkateparkLessons 💋

I think my basil plant Jeffery actually has gained the ability to kill mosquitoes, I found a struggling small half dead looking mosquito stumbling under the amazing greatness of my blue basil plant Jeffery ELES Rico, that's impressive, it's like blue basil is now it's very own divine element of bio structure that actually can lure in and destroy mosquitos!

@SkateparkLessons

7 ай бұрын

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Please clarify what do mean at 8:45 saying "try not to ollie downhill (or downheel?) 'cos it can steel your pop".. Also your student and many many more ollie practicing novice guys do not throw up the front hand, seems that front hand staying down (while the back hand is almost always rised) eats much of amplitude