What would your ideal treadmill do that Peloton’s doesn’t?

@samuel.prores

2 жыл бұрын

Snacks.

@diskilovers6002

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in need of a Spin Bike not a treadmill

@Car_Fanatic

2 жыл бұрын

Make a rowing machine Pelton you are on "the verge" of bankruptcy (good joke here) The bike and treadmill are good products, but the bikes are not keeping customers engaged for years (canclled memrships). The treadmill could, and so can the rowing machine they need to make And they need to allow any heart rate monitor and smart watch works with their closed ecosystem. And the rowing machine better be a good price

@MrDohers

2 жыл бұрын

Not exist.

@sugonmaballs

2 жыл бұрын

Put out. Print money. Bake cookies. Be free. Cure cancer. Be outside with fresh air and real scenery to enjoy while I'm running.

The thing about a company building the core of its product around a service is that the quality of the product is forever tied to the health of the company. Great video! I loled at the end

@jamarinyc

2 жыл бұрын

hey Dieter!

@TheVerge

2 жыл бұрын

You look familiar… 🤔

@backlon

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheVerge 🤫

@athelstan5794

2 жыл бұрын

I command you to get back to the verge ASAP.

@daniebello

2 жыл бұрын

wouldn’t that apply to spotify?

Okay, we need more of her. Love her reasonable, grounded presentation style

OMG, I’ve never seen a video from Victoria, but I want more. You’re brill. Clear, light, honest, succinct and no big rants (sorry Dieter, miss you though). I love every Verge video, but feel free to replace your next Microsoft Surface micro iteration video with another Victoria connected fitness one. Anyways, more connect fitness videos please. Such a important category and Victoria is cool.

@notyrpapa

2 жыл бұрын

This. More Victoria please!

@ehsan_kia

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, new Verge star in the making right here. I was worried with people like Dieter leaving, but I'm really loving these new faces bringing a fresh take on things.

@julianorossi2450

2 жыл бұрын

I came to the comments section just to write the exact same thing.

I love Peloton, and I've had a Bike+ for over a year now, but it's about time that they start offering options to watch my own media on their devices. I want Hulu, Netflix, KZread and Disney+ options. The trainers are great, but I want the option to zone out and watch a show while working out. Make it happen, Peloton!

@RoshondaThomas1992

9 ай бұрын

You spoke it into existence 🎉🎉

Loved this host, more of her please!

Amazing presenter. Good job Verge.

Wow! Victoria is great! Clear, hilarious, and informative! That end bit encouraged me to go from KZread on my Apple TV to KZread on my iPhone JUST so I could give it a thumbs up and write this comment.

I have the Bike+, and it helps me to be more active, the membership looks expensive, but I can create family accounts and share it with my wife and my parents. My mom seems to be very into yoga classes. So if you are already an active person, good for you, maybe you don't need this, but for me, this is a product that I would buy in the future because I can use the same subscription for multiple devices.

$40 a month is equivalent to a high end gym monthly fee…..

@alexcardosa8079

2 жыл бұрын

But with all the other equipment.

@MMPK

2 жыл бұрын

I agree but that $40 wouldn't include classes and for alot of people those classes are really important and make exercising fun

@KrlsOtc

2 жыл бұрын

@@MMPK who need classes for a treadmill? 🤦‍♂️

@KrlsOtc

2 жыл бұрын

@@julm7744 I know, it wasn’t a real question, sounds crazy to me. But good for them, if that helps to keep them healthy, why not.

@fisherbunny5884

2 жыл бұрын

@@MMPK that's a lie. Some gyms do include classes into their membership

Peloton should definitely dip its toes into opening up brick and mortar gyms with their equipment inside the gyms. That way you pay a membership to go to the gym, use the equipment and don’t have to have it in your house. Let’s face it, most of us don’t have the space for these things in our homes. I would 100% sign up to go to a gym that had their equipment with their classes available on them.

Loved this review. Honest about the prices and the history of Peloton. Great job

I can say honestly that the peloton bike classes are some of the best workouts I've ever done. I'd be shocked if they went under.

Liking how many of us like Victoria’s style. Easy to follow and somehow really really engaging. Couldn’t care less about peloton but I was hooked watching and listening to this

Such a fun review! But yeah the absurd cost of this thing plus a monthly membership to get locked in makes absolutely zero sense for a consumer product. You could spend that monthly fee on an actual gym membership and it would take many years to spend even close to the cost of the treadmill.

@CorinChellberg

2 жыл бұрын

tread pays for itself vs equinox in like 14 months lol

@primalconvoy

2 жыл бұрын

@@article1934 Except it's not. The OP was referring to MOST people. It is simply too expensive for them. Their point stands.

More of her doing reviews, please. She radiates a calm, sweet energy and we deserve it.

Where has Victoria been all this time The Verge? Great video!

Probably will never buy a Peloton if they are going to restrict their product if you don’t get a subscription. Considering gym memberships are now as low as $10 a month, for the cost of one Peloton, I can have a gym membership for 23+ yrs! 😅

Victoria, you are so good at this!

This was such a great video!! Congrats Victoria :))

The price is just insane. No way I’m gonna buy this when I could join a gym or buy any treadmill I want and take the many treadmill classes on Apple Fitness+ for a fraction of the cost.

@auliamate

2 жыл бұрын

i'd like apple to buy peloton and bring those classes to Fitness+. Now THAT, that would be a killer fitness service. Goodwill eat your heart out

Great review!! Pleasure to watch you go through the details!

Fantastic video, I'd be shocked if Victoria doesn't start taking over this channel in the coming months. Great presentation style and the "review + company history overview/context" script is so so good. Assuming the classes are about on par, why would anyone go for the peloton over a regular treadmill + iPad and Watch with Fitness+? You even get an iPad and Apple Watch out of it and it's still cheaper even in the short term.

I got the tread.. it’s worth every single penny!!!

people got hurt because people weren’t being careful… children will be children. do you sue the landlord if you child hits the corner of the kitchen counter? no, you buy the child safety house kits and soften the hard edges of your home. the same can be said for a treadmill.

I love the Verge reviews!

Binge watching tech reviews is my passion and with Dieter raising the bar so high with his verge reviews and the amazing B-rolls, I am always up for a verge video. However, I never thought I would care about a treadmill or fitness video but Victoria really nailed this review. I can also get a sense that she does know a fair bit about this category and tech in general, would love to see more Victoria reviews.

Great job Victoria!

I have the bike to supplement my outdoor riding. The fact that it's $500 a year for the membership is absurd. I've been thinking about how that could go toward a really nice new bike or smart trainer instead.

It's now Mar 2023 and their tread is $3495 + $44 subscription. yikes

Great review! Good job Victoria!

Such an amazing reviewer! Pleasure to watch.

You know when you see a host for the 17th time and you think, “damn, they’re growing on me.” Excellent video!

Amazing review!!! Love it!!! I wish the Tread+ would come back. The slats were so much more of a cushioned run

Great angle and something to definitely think about with purchasing any more Peloton products! Def. earned a like for the ending 😂

I like Victoria but it would be valuable (for me) if your fitness equipment reviews had a small section with durability comments offered up by a larger individual. I'm 6'4" and 225lbs. I couldn't tell based on this review if the treadmill would be at all sturdy enough for me to buy and use long term.

@victoriasong5700

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Daniel! Great question. The official range Peloton gives for the Tread is heights of 4'11 to 6'4, and weights ranging between 105 and 300lbs. Obviously, I'm a whole foot shorter than you but there was one thing that I noticed w/ the Tread that might be tough for taller people: the tray. Classes often ask you to do high knees as part of a warmup and once or twice I knocked a knee into it. I can only imagine that's more likely for taller people.

Ive been on the verge of ordering a Peleton and I was looking once again this morning. This was a very informative review and much appreciated. Is there any way to "jailbreak" the device without compromising the system? I like the idea of the instructors and trail system videos of hiking, but I certainly don't want locked into only Pelotons feeds. Is there another brand that is similar construction that will let you jump into your own material and still offer the monthly fees for their classes and software?

@Button607

Жыл бұрын

I have a bike plus that I share with my partner. Before I bought it, I looked up if you could watch different apps and stuff and you can but it messes up the entire peloton system according to what I found. If you don’t want to always see the peloton content then you could have a TV in the same room or go with a different bike. I will say that I love the bike and the content because it pushes me harder than I would by myself. There is a huge range of instructors and they always have stories to tell during the classes. My fiancé and I really like it and use it 3-5 times a week for each of us separately so it’s worth it for us because we don’t like going to gyms and the one subscription can be used for multiple people in a household. Sorry if it’s a long reply but I hope it helps.

Great review! Super engaging. Good job! Now can you make one more? ;)

amazing job, super interesting.

$3000 just to be able to run? I wonder what's going on in those product design meetings. Those people are absolutely out of their minds. Running enthusiasts won't need such a product. Many beginners won't be able to afford such a device. So you're left with people with enough free cash and just need that little bit of encouragement. This greatly narrows down your target audience. Plus with $40 a month subscription fee, most people will just sign up a gym membership, which again reduces your potential client count. I guess the market research was largely bloated by COVID situations where people had no choice but to stay at home. But now with things slowly going back to normal, they're left with a stupid price tag and unrealistic business goals. I think it's my wallet talking now, but no thanks. Great review though.

@shashank1630

2 жыл бұрын

But you have to drive to a gym… which is time wasted. Also what about the fuel cost of driving to the gym? Or what if you hit someone on your way to the gym - then your monthly insurance could also go up.

@samuelbarnard675

2 жыл бұрын

@@shashank1630 or walk to a gym

@shashank1630

2 жыл бұрын

@@samuelbarnard675 what if it’s freezing cold and there are no sidewalks as is the case in lots of suburbs

@samuelbarnard675

2 жыл бұрын

@@shashank1630 run by the roadside

@shashank1630

2 жыл бұрын

@@samuelbarnard675 that’s dangerous. What’s the point of being healthy if you’re dead. Your advise doesn’t make any sense brother.

Excellent review, thank you.

i love my peloton tread and bike 😍

Get yourself a 1000-dollar treadmill, a large tablet, and a Zwift subscription (or use the free version).

@tslarocket

2 жыл бұрын

And a knee replacement in 40 years lol. You get what you pay for

@jamesderrick8201

2 жыл бұрын

Zwift software uses open-standard sensors so my hand-me-down Carl Lewis treadmill works with the addition of a £70 belt sensor and an existing Garmin watch. $2.8k for a shacked Android tablet? Nope! Zwift running isn't as good as Zwift cycling, as a bike smart trainer (e.g. Tacx or Wahoo) is even better as you use a real bike that fits you, not a bed frame. Don't like Zwift? Try Trainer Road, Sufferfest, and many others using the SAME open hardware.

Not the coach ending!!! 💀🤣

is this the same machine that is now, September 10, 2022, $3400??? they are trying to raise all the rates to try and make the company profitable but raising prices will just discourage consumers. Every day I wonder if this company will be closing its doors and where will I find my classes if it does

$40 is way too much especially with the cost of the treadmill. They should move to a tier membership for those videos. Start at $5 essential plan with Ads before and after each workout, or during the workout to really make them upgrade. $10 for without ads, and $25 for a plus membership that will get new content a year before everyone else. $40 tier should have LIVE classes, maybe 2-3 times a week. You sign up for each classes so the teachers can personalize the experience, etc.

Was just about to close out of the video before the bit in the end, that got me XD solid job and great points. We had been mulling over the idea of getting a treadmill but i'll likely steer clear of peloton until they can figure things out. As you said, their main products are the classes, yeah selling hardware can make you a bit more money but think how many more subscriptions they'd have if they just opened it up to everyone regardless of the hardware used.

@RobertAnstett

2 жыл бұрын

Using the Peloton Digital app you can use any hardware you want. I have a Nordic Track and use the Pelton app for running/walking/strength, etc.

@tookule4skool

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobertAnstett I had no idea this was even an option, i'll have to look into it, thanks!

Could you be more in depth about the hardware, like the motor, speed levels, fans, etc.. Just because it’s a peloton doesn’t mean “excellence” is a given. Also, I wish they made a peloton gravity treadmill.

@candbotchan257

2 жыл бұрын

@Joey Giffee The device’s selling point is the company’s service, and if the company screws up the service goes with it too. It’s fair to tell the viewers about the company for 2 minutes when it will directly affects the device’s quality and longevity.

Never seen a video from Victoria Song and this is GREAT!!! I love her being grounded and clear esp the ending hahaha !!!!

Great review!

Hahaha loved that ending. You got my like

1 year later, still 💯 relevant 😂 great video!

Thanks for this review I was going to buy one but I’ll hold out for a little bit😊

This was a great review.

I’m loving her review style. She is zesty and fun !

5:17 100% why you should not buy this or any other Peloton product.

Great review

excellent analysis

So, true, currently returning mine due to software issues, poor technical support, and wasting my time. While it worked I loved the classes. All it took was one software update to show me how messed up there service is. I now have an expensive pretty brick that does not work. :(

I didnt even consider that youd need a membership. I thought the whole point of buying one was that youre saving money on spin classes and this was just a treadmill version of the bike.

Your ending was funny. Lol.

Bought a Peloton Tread about a month ago and while the classes are not for me, especially at $40/month, it is a very high quality treadmill with a lot of room for potential growth. If you look at other comparable treadmills with similar features, they are only a few hundred dollars cheaper than the Peloton Tread

OK I saw a video where a child got hurt by the first treadmill and honestly, despite the bad design, the equipment is just a contributing factor to parental negligence. They leave two 3-4 year olds alone to play with a running treadmill, and the 3yo literally shoves his arms under there, then gets pulled in. I'm not victim blaming the child, I AM victim blaming the parents. Easy solution to all this: go running outside. Cheaper, less boring, saves space.

Really great review

Love that presentation! Thx! Yes for the extra like! 😊

I haven't enjoyed a review so much in ages and I wouldn't even buy a treadmill 🤭

I can register classes without purchasing a device?

Unlike treadmll running, this was really fun to watch!

THANKS. I also love Jess King!!! It's pricey but I still want it.

I was getting very annoyed of this video in the first 30 seconds BUT I held back and watch it all - GREAT video! Thank you! I will hold on purchasing this equipment a few more months until I see the new business model for Peloton… great suggestion

Well done! Thanks.

Offical 1st commebt after the verge pinned comment. Make a rowing machine Pelton you are on "the verge" of bankruptcy (good joke here) Make a rowing machine Pelton you are on "the verge" of bankruptcy (good joke here) The bike and treadmill are good products, but the bikes are not keeping customers engaged for years (canclled memrships). The treadmill could, and so can the rowing machine they need to make. But these memberships needs to go down in price. And they need to allow any heart rate monitor or smart watch go connect to their ecosystem

I actually love the tread 💗

Peloton’s greed is their downfall.

I wish the Peloton tread plus releases again

Love the new host. Would want to see more of Victoria!

So I could buy the current treadmill now for $3500 and then in one year can go down to $2000?!?! That’s absolutely ridiculous and anybody who overpaid he’s going to want to be reimbursed especially if they increase the rates of the memberships. I was going to buy the treadmill, but now it sounds almost irresponsible to do so.

Apple should just acquire Peloton and Tonal if they get approval from regulators or make their own competing product and service. They already have the health fitness app and subscription services they need to add hardware which Apple is great at.

I would love one but the price is outrageous. Gym membership is still the cheaper option for me. its almost summer = D . I hope to God no more snow here in Alberta.

The 2fa analogy was spot on

This has been the only available Peleton product in most of Europe for years!

peloton apple watch app now syncs HR to tread i think

Your downstairs neighbours will love this...

I have the original treadmill plus. I would NEVER buy the tread. The old style tread is gross. The track on the plus is MUCH better. If people weren't reckless with the plus they would have kept that which was a VASTLY better tread.

if people are smart, they would stay away from Peloton. When the company goes belly up or they decide to hike up the membership, you'll have a regular treadmill thats not worth 3k

That was a great review

If I cannot use the screen other than peloton’s, it’s a no for me. I wish they will allow streaming content like netflix, amazon, or apple tv. Such a beautiful and big screen that can only do one trick. I think they are limiting themselves from other buyers.

Treadmill for rich people. I will be losing more money then calories on that.

I knew I wasn't going to like this treadmill, because I don't like the company, but the new host Victoria is amazing. She even sold that inevitable joke at the end I saw a mile away.

40$ per month is a joke, i'd rather go to an actual gym

@ryebread6790

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but once you put family members on that same 40 it starts looking a lot better

@fisherbunny5884

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryebread6790 no stupid

It's nothing for a high quality (gym level) treadmill to be $4-5K

Quick note about the setup where this was filmed - the product is black, the reviewer is wearing black - it doesn't make sense to film this in a dark room. It was hard to see how the product actually looked like.

I seriously considered buying a peleton bike but the subscription was a deal breaker. If it was free for a year or you could use the screen to watch other things I would’ve probably made the purchase.

Very pretty, excellent personality 👌 great video review

Trust me , the target audience this machine is made for is a fitness center , not an individual. Why would an individual user want to spend that much money on a closed-ecosystem, single-purposed fitness machine like a treadmill or a rowing machine ? You could have achieved the fitness purpose for sooooo much more by visiting a fitness center - 1) more different machines , 2) social life with people there, 3) distinct switch from work mode to exercise mode by location change, 4) much less upfront cost , 5) cancel subscription fee if you no longer want to go to gym 6) watch Netflix on your iPad during exercises The list goes on and on . It's head scratching business model if it is designed to attract individual customer.

Please review also a Technogym products 🇮🇹

$480/year just for the membership is insanity.

Scott Galloway has been predicting for months now that Apple will acquire Peloton. After getting a glimpse of this I can see why he might say that. It’s still absurdly expensive and not that valuable from an exercise perspective. It’s in Apple’s ethos, but it’s just so eye-wateringly expensive that I can’t see why anyone would buy one.

Do not buy a treadmill from Peloton. They won’t deliver it. I bought it and they no showed me mulitple times. No email, call or text. Local store said they couldn’t help me. Finally gave up and cancelled order. Crazy that I literally tried to buy one and they wouldn’t deliver it.

This treadmill belongs in Sheldon's house