When my son read The Pedagogy of the Oppressed as an older teen he told me it was like reading his own thoughts. Kudo's for covering it.

Love Paolo !

i’m about to go write a reflection about dialogic methods of learning and how it relates to community development and this really helped me wrap my head around some key concepts! thank you! :)

@ArtLor3

2 ай бұрын

Your welcome! Hope the writing goes well!

Growth requires one to seek an education that doesn’t rely solely on school. Education requires reading, writing, and discussing. Everything we need to know is already written down. School is like daycare. It takes a willing participant to get the most out of what is being taught. Blanket curriculum is difficult. Kids are free not to care. I teach high school, and some kids interact with the curriculum, while some go to the bathroom for 20 minutes to look at their phones. Parents should make sure their kids read daily. Otherwise, students may lack the patience to engage with abstract concepts. I love what I do. I am patient, and I give feedback and I accept late work without penalty. I have witnessed certain students grow as thinkers and writers, but the students must decide to do the work of acquiring skill and global knowledge. Teachers provide the guidance, but students educate themselves.

came over here because of Elliot Sang YT video about "Does Love exist under capitalism?". Gonna give this a listen later this week

@ArtLor3

2 ай бұрын

I recently discovered Elliot Sang, he is fantastic! Thanks for the suggestion!

Thank you for sharing!

@ArtLor3

4 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

Interesting looking book

Pls can you talk about the limitations of Paul’s problem posing concept of education

Thanks, I really enjoyed this! There seems to be a related idea to this in the principle of consent. In the same way a prison only works when prisoners consent to their circumstances, a school can only work when students consent to how they're being taught. It seems like the larger theme of the book is education being a method to get citizens to question their own consent to societies that don't always work in their favour. I feel like thats an empowering message, that we can all hear on some level. Ultimately I feel like education is ideally about raising responsible and awake people to make their own choices; unfortunately it also expresses the anxieties and fear of the prevailing society!

@ArtLor3

Ай бұрын

That’s a good way of putting it and I think I agree. Thanks for your comment!

Do you think the education system can still be shaped by the application of the book? Or its like trying to fill up a leaking bucket? Where the admin isn't supporting it because all they care about are grades and test scores? And do you watch Abbott Elementary? Because it feels like S2 shows the main character issue trying to make change for the kids she cares about on a bigger scale.

@epic6434

2 ай бұрын

Well you need to explain what the education system looks like in your country you can't define it by a single word like oppressive or indoctrination does the country have the wealth to fund education for all or is it limited? Are there private schools? Are there public schools? These are different types of educations from the beginning there is a headstart and kindergarten program where the children are taught to behave follow instructions like gathering around the teacher who has a story to read with pictures there's coloring and learning the alphabet there is counting numbers using items and objects also numbers the alphabet is represented by a simple word familiar to a child that begins with each letter of the alphabet to familiarize the child with the letters and details of it's difference between it's pronouncing the playing during recess is to follow directions of the games rules it's learning and comprehending rules and regulations if one can't follow the rules or is a bad sport they are sat out to watch the other's. Indoctrination isn't so terrible if you want people to be programed but if you'd rather test their own resolve you give them examples and allow imagination to be expressed the education gets more serious as you gradually level up but hard to hold students back when you are not well funded or simply failing to get results. People don't understand what a great country they're living in to have an education a basic education program is better than a limited.

@DefenderPuma

2 ай бұрын

The education system today heavily draws from this book. As you heard him say it's taught to all teachers at university. This is why kids can't do maths but they are obsessed with politics. It's the education system.

@animelvr99

2 ай бұрын

@@epic6434 "Well you need to explain what the education system looks like in your country you can't define it by a single word like oppressive or indoctrination does the country have the wealth to fund education for all or is it limited?" Well in the American education system. We have lots of funds for everything esp military and policing but not for education system. And getting an education past high school will throw majority of the citizens into debt due to needing to take out loans without a guarantee of a job or being able to pay it back. "Are there private schools? Are there public schools?" yes to both. access to them depends on where you live and if you can afford it. all with different levels of funding and resources. I'm not quite sure the tangent you were going off to tho. "People don't understand what a great country they're living in to have an education a basic education program is better than a limited." this seems a bit off because it's saying its better than nothing. because if the basic education program doesn't even help the student, then its hurting them by getting them indoctrinated into something they will eventually need to leave and re-educated to. so it doesn't trickle down to the next generation.

@animelvr99

2 ай бұрын

@@DefenderPuma so the basis of current education is that teachers aren't teaching math but teaching politics? that doesn't seem accurate to a lot of the subjects or application. politics deserves its own class which we usually have in history. and we also have real world politics affecting how we get educated or what kind of funds teachers get to have.

@ArtLor3

2 ай бұрын

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Question why is it hard to use problem posing concept in teaching ?

@dwwolf4636

Ай бұрын

Because it steals time from things that actually work. Like actual literacy, math and science. And it actually hurts young students' mental health. Do you think its a coincidence that youth mental health problems have exploded ? All the Critical XXX can do ( like good Marxists) is say : Not this, but now with less understanding of how objective reality works and ability to communicate ( Critical XXX denies objective reality's very existence ). Their only goal is to reach the end of the Communist rainbow, through perpetual "NOT THIS"....i.e. perpetual revolution. And it's actually worse than that. If you touch the hard sciences with the application of a Critical Consciousness you are defacto reinventing Lysenkoism. That travesty only caused 60-70 million deaths last century. And that was when it was "only" applied to Biology and Agriculture. I shudder to think what will happen if its applied to math or engineering or medicine. Though I suppose we're starting to see the results with the startling amount of serious defects on Boeing aircraft.

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You're not explaining the situation of this country and the levels of education for instance the banking method is useful for elementary students the problem posing education is higher education if the country needs workers that is the best education they have to offer for the majority of people so it isn't a waste of time it's the best they can do for the majority and have to choose the brightest students to become the professional class politicians teachers so on but if the country needs workers they'll have to work for the best outcome of the country or area's they'll be able to support their lives rather than believing they could be rich too being that the country has a small wealth percentage that does not have the means to invest all of it's wealth into the poor people's education and opportunities. It's not practical for people to teach poor people about opportunity if the country has limited potential to support it. It's radical and misguided.