Peak Lo-Fi With A 1930s Celluloid Recorder
Join me as I explore the 1930's German Kosmograph, a very early dictaphone that recorded acoustically to celluloid discs. Is this still LO-fi or is it NO-fi? Will it music? I try to make some beats with it and it surprised me, both negatively and positively.
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@AMPProf
Жыл бұрын
YES TOO FAR for lo-fi But.. 190Os HOME BREW SD sure
@AlexanderTzalumen
Жыл бұрын
If you're looking for very old audio equipment, take a look at the Techmoan channel kzread.info/dron/5I2hjZYiW9gZPVkvzM8_Cw.html
@pd1jdw630
Жыл бұрын
Maybe you can ask Techmoan. He might have an answer for you. Are at least point you in the right direction.
@AlexanderTzalumen
Жыл бұрын
@@pd1jdw630 I like the way you think
@AMPProf
Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking 1800s hifi.. but... That one opera HAUSE and That one lady
2:26 A machine that makes everyone sound like 1930s German. 😁
@innnlove
Жыл бұрын
the hitlerizer
@Ambocom
Жыл бұрын
Don't let kanye find it
@crying2emoji5
Жыл бұрын
Bruh
@bbqgiraffe3766
Жыл бұрын
I think that's called the internet
@Balrog-tf3bg
Жыл бұрын
That’s what German sounds like to non German speakers 😂
You are the German Bob Ross of experimental electronic music. Keep it up
@ToDAZEtheDAY
Жыл бұрын
So accurate 😂
@JosePineda-jn8jk
Жыл бұрын
🤯
@alanv9700
Жыл бұрын
I wish people could learn to describe things besides making references towards other things. The English language is so vast and descriptive... But yes, he is quite entertaining and informative. Soothing voice too.
@handledis
Жыл бұрын
hahahha insta subscribe after this message. bob is like a monk that has completed his lifetime of monking and instead is following his true passion
@benfoley6472
Жыл бұрын
@@alanv9700 Thats such a bizarre opinion I'm genuinely curious why don't you like comparisons?
Just sounds like a distress signal on an empty spaceship telling people to stay away.
@Swaginatorr44
Жыл бұрын
Why would you say this, new nightmare unlocked
@Justcallme_B
Жыл бұрын
Event Horizon throwback! "Liberate tuteme ex inferis"
@FukaiKokoro
Жыл бұрын
Kinda like that conspiracy that Russia Had people in space before the official launch. There's audio of people panicking. I am not sure if it's real. I'd prefer to think it was fake.
@Koronus_
Жыл бұрын
And then they send a rescue team to save those trapped in the ship, only to realise the only survivor is the alien that infiltrated.
@bluelightbullshit5792
Жыл бұрын
those that are wery of the unknown won't explore outside there comfort so we looked to the stars for a new home and a new beginning
Wow, I've always wondered why early voice recordings have that weird, distinct "mousey" quality and this makes it make so much more sense.
@KommentarSpaltenKrieger
Жыл бұрын
Or take the weirdly clear, theatrical pronounciation. Probably also highly influenced by the limits of back-then recording techniques and machines.
@batacumba
Жыл бұрын
Right? I was like *mind blown*
There is a Japanese kit, the “Otona no Kagaku” Edison Phonograph Kit. It records on candles. A former colleague had one on his desk, but I never saw it in action. Costs around 60€, if I remember right.
@Hainbach
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Matthias! Just ordered one
@whitelion7976
Жыл бұрын
Try teenage engineering record factory or the toy record maker from Yuri Suzuki
@owenswabi
Жыл бұрын
@@Hainbach subbed for that
@ukuleletyke
Жыл бұрын
Techmoan did a video on one. If I recall, it didn’t work..
This is the highest lofi quality possible…
@sytiravajous
5 ай бұрын
The hifiest lofi
Slowly working our way toward the great Hainbach - Techmoan convergence.
@Hainbach
Жыл бұрын
D r e a m
We have witnessed a fascinating transition in the music world, moving from high-fidelity to low-fidelity, and now even entering the realm of no-fidelity.
I loved watching this. I thought it was worth mentioning that celluloid has some surprising features. Not only is it, as you mentioned, what old film was made from, but also mass-produced mid-century accordions (which were likewise ubiquitous at the time). Like a 1940s Hollywood actress, celluloid is unstable, dramatic and spiteful, and will burst into flame whenever it sees a cigarette lighter (also ubiquitous at the time), or whenever somebody nearby thinks about a cigarette lighter, or even just in the middle of a polka which members of the band agree is particularly "hot." It was actually difficult to tell sometimes why any particular accordion or film canister burst into flames, but within a decade or so, people began to find excuses to leave cellulose objects (along with 1940s Hollywood actresses) sitting at home alone, or warehoused in archives, safely isolated in a cool, dark, quiet area. Unfortunately, this was just the wrong thing to do, because under such conditions, celluloid is likely to grow despondent and sulk, passive-aggressively dissolving into a vinegar-smelling goo at a moment it judges to be highly random, tragic and inopportune.
I think it's time to create the "lo-fi diagram" analogous to the uncanny valley diagram. At first, the more lo-fi the more interesting the result, but after the peak there is a decline and the result becomes uninteresting again.
@Hainbach
Жыл бұрын
Or rather, completely unintelligeble. I think with service I could up the quality - cleaning helped a lot, but the needle is rather worn. Replacement is probably impossible to find.
@zackcolbourne6921
Жыл бұрын
More lofi = more betterer. There. Diagram finished.
@RCAvhstape
Жыл бұрын
@@Hainbach Does it use the same type of stylus as old Victrola record players do? If so there are several sources for them. They come in batches of hundreds, since you are supposed to discard each needle after one play.
@checktheneck
Жыл бұрын
@@zackcolbourne6921 then the "best" result would be a complete loss of the original signal, turning it into noise. If this is an artistic idea - great, if not, then the procedure loses its meaning because you can just use the noise as the original signal :)
@gutterg0d
Жыл бұрын
@@RCAvhstape playing the medium is one thing, cutting it is a whole different beast.
The song is fantastic, especially 4:30 and onward! A whole album or EP of stuff like that would be lovely and spooky!
@Hainbach
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was thinking of make an EP from these tracks I have made for vids that would not fit on my regular releases.
@tyburvandeezo8218
Жыл бұрын
@@Hainbach YESS!!!
@bricelory9534
Жыл бұрын
@@Hainbach I think that'd be very cool! You make a lot of excellent music that can get a bit lost in the context of KZread where it is featured and then left alone for the next video. Understandable, but it can be nice to go back and hear the music again easily!
@MassMultiplayer
Жыл бұрын
viceral, space empire evil dark fume from sewer in futuristic city lol
@notuxnobux
Жыл бұрын
Sounds kinda like Shin Megami Tensei V Da'at: Taito theme, from 0:40 onward
The fact that someone could record a theremin on one of these when released is kind of mind blowing
96 years old. Haha. Like the Boosh taking retro to its logical conclusion. That omnichord strum through it was so lush. 😍 Btw - there was a guy doing wax cylinder recording in the North of England, I read an article on him a while back. I'll have to see if he's still around.
@AlexBallMusic
Жыл бұрын
Found it - the Vulcan cylinder company in Sheffield.
@nickshillito1170
Жыл бұрын
Cyborg sea dog tell me what you dream of
cant believe you found a machine like that in such good condition, tech from the 1910's to 1940's (for obvious reasons) are so insanely rare. amazing to see such an awesome piece of tech still be utilised
This video was already beautiful and then you opened the case and I saw the mechanics running inside. It's heartwarming to watch it run.
I've always wanted to witness a wax cylinder from 1800s in real life - they're so eerie, aren't they?
5:45 I literally went 😲 when that arpeggio hit. One of the most beautiful things i've heard.
Lofi beats to experience existential despair to
i wouldn't call this lofi, this is something else, but i want more
Olafur Arnalds uses a wax cylinder recorder and he says he knows a guy in the UK who still makes them on request. I doubt that helps, but it's reassuring to know there are people doing it for those who want it.
@Hainbach
Жыл бұрын
Alex Ball send me the address - very cool shop Sheffield
This is much better than the basic piano chords with crackling vhs noise behind it
I don't know why, but the moment I hear the whole song, my mind just goes blank.. Like in a good way. I constantly have thousands of thoughts in my head and my brain rarely shuts down - maybe due to ADHD, but I'm not sure yet - but it just felt extra relaxing for me.
I like that it looks like a sound hoover, like you can just stick it to objects and suck up their noise
Greetings from England! I am glad Germany still has musicians like you that inspired David Bowie when he came to Berlin in 1976.
It sounds insane. Thank you for making such a fun video and sharing with all of us. Great work Hainbach!
Rob Scallon has a whole video on his channel where he recorded metal music on a wax cylinder, it's really entertaining and fascinating to watch.
Love your videos Hainbach. Your calm voice is soothing to the soul.
I am guessing that after 90 years, the diaphragm may be “stiff” - if you can clean and rebuild it you may be able to get better, however still very lo-fi results out of the machine. This is a completely acoustic-mechanical form of recording and playback which hasn’t been used by commercial recordings since the 1920’s. So definitely unique!
Your videos are always a treat for the ears. Please do keep digging back as far as you can, I'm super curious to see and hear what you can come up with! Cheers!
This just came up in my feed. I was enjoying plenty then his music played and I was very impressed. Love the sound.
You are a musician, mad scientist and archeologist
Another amazing video! How you make music from these things is fascinatingly cool. I watch your videos as soon as they come out.
You are such a rare breed, dear Hainbach - Thanx for being you , the way you are you !
FANTASTIC. I've been looking for one of these forever.
You are a great artist, even tough i don't like everything you create. You are original, independent en unique! Keep going with this!
Wonderful! Past bedtime here in Sweden, and this is what will feed my dreams.
That's so surreal. I think you made excellent use of that vintage recorder. Well done.
Thank you very much for bringing me this gym and the music is an amazing touch you're so talented continue what you do and I'm going to be a subscriber for life so keep them coming
holy moly, you mad emy britches fly off with your recordings!
I love all the Lo-Fi textures you're getting with the Kosmograph.
Oh I do love your explorations of strange and obsolete audio formats 🎃 keep em comin'
I'm so glad you were recommended to me! Instant subscribe.
Woooow! I love this sounds.
I can't believe that was only seven and a half minutes. So much information and art packed in, leading to many thoughts. I especially appreciated the close-up shots of how the needle is carving away at the disc, creating that ever-growing mass of thread next to the needle; seeing this really makes it clear what is happening and is enjoyable to witness.
Ich glaube damit hast du den youtube Algorithmus geknackt. Mir wurde das Video angezeigt und dein Kanal ist eine richtige Goldgrube ❤️
@Hainbach
Жыл бұрын
Danke! Hatte ehrlich gesagt das Video schon abgeschrieben, weil trotz meines guten Bauchgefühles dazu hängenblieb nach fünf Tagen. Dann wach ich Sonntag morgen auf und Trau meinen Augen nicht!
Very nice video! Please keep up with videos of such obscure and not-widely-known formats. 👍
Smile from ear lobe to lobe. Thank you mister. You made my day
It reminds me of the earliest cameras that needed a lot of light to get the faintest recording. Really cool!
caught ya from my recommendations page, I immediately got hit with beautifully rich audio, love hearin it!
@Hainbach
Жыл бұрын
Thank you and welcome!
Great stuff as always! Your videos are a great for inspiration!
I love this channel so much
You have won me over! Than you to the youtube algorithm gods for allowing this to pop up into my news feed! GREAT WORK!
@Hainbach
Жыл бұрын
Thank you and welcome
WOW so glad this got recommended to me. Beautiful results
Absolutely wonderful! It reminds me of a recording I heard of Mayakovskij reading a poem. It might have been recorded on a similar machine.
Very impressive track! I loved the finished result.
"It comes with this 'Schlauch'" is the most german thing I heard in a while, nice video!
Woah ! MERCI d'avoir partagé, c'est une chance de pouvoir entendre ça.
one of my favorite of your demonstrative tracks
What a haunting tune
I think when you speak into that thing your messages pass through another dimension into a parallel universe and played through a record player on 1930’s earth to some baffled guy that just bought it.
This brings me joy
you get to see the coolest shit. you are blessed hainbach!
I remember seeing one of these in a historical TV drama and wanting to know more and if it has "possibilities"... I never dreamed that, one day, an electronic music enthusiast would demonstrate one for me. :) Some of those samples were like a Vaco Orchestron... but even more "Vaco Orchestron" than the Vaco Orchestron was.
Is this what liminal space would sounds like? Ghostly, haunting but nostalgic and beautiful.
Rob Scallon did a recording on wax cylinder with a band. check it out, the equipment is pretty cool, and they used the big cones to get the instruments.
Truly beuatiful sound.
These sounds are sooooo beautiful!! They would be worth creating instruments for us happy users of your wonderful sound design products. (I just cross fingers... I'm so glad...)
that is fantastically fascinating, thanks for sharing!
I absolutely love it
Beautiful.
It sounds like if found a dingy VHS of an old Cyberpunk Anime, where only a few of the scenes still show up on the TV. I love it. Like this is the sound of a dystopia that's been forgotten
i wish more people had access to this device! we need more music that sounds like this!
I have owned a few disc dictation machines, but they were all electronically amplified. The oldest was a Gray Audograph from the late 1930s - all octal vacuum tubes and Art Deco styling. The latest was a Telefunken from the '60s - all transistor.
I think it's exactly what we need right now. Excellent.
Awesome exploration!
This is so wild, cool, and unique
I love how he got to the SECOND thing about it and already hit a word i do not have any idea how to spell.
I really think you should take the train and visit the radio museum @ Olen, Belgium. They have wax players, wire players and some tesla stuff. It s nearby the station. So next stop will be studio 2 at NL :)
@Hainbach
Жыл бұрын
Oh nice, on the list!
love it. it's like you're vacuuming ("hoovering" for UK friends) up the sound
It kind of gives me a Boards of Canada vibe with a weird extra retro-step in it, nice.
Wow thanks for sharing this! Would never have known it existed
He deadass gave us a few experimental sounds to play with and then sucker punched us with this absolute transcendent track. Good god that was nuts.
Fascinating!
It's awesome!
Brilliant music. Has a very cool BOC vibe to it!!! Sehr Toll!!!
The modern toy version reminded me a little of when I was a child, at an arcade novelty booth you could cut a 45 record ( it had a mic with it ) into a plastic disc of standard 45 size design. Kosmograph reminds of those floppy discs that were put into some magazines that you played on a record player.
Sweet videos!!
Really interesting result! What you made sounds like something I would hear in the High on Life game
Oh bro that was dope beat you made
This is so good ,,keeping it real!! lov it ! Cheers!;-)!
Super sick track!
Love the track you produced with this video! Please update the description once you've titled and released it!
That really has that pre-war lo-fi crispiness.
Amazing... There's needs to be a documentary mad about you!!!!
Excellent! 🎉
something like this could be great in a horror or mystery film of some kind
great one!! very interesting
Guten Abend, ich komme gerade aus dem Labor und habe den Tag damit verbracht ein Multichannel Audiosystem aufzubauen ... Und setze mich ins Auto, mache HR1 an, da läuft ein Interview mit Grönemeyer und der sagt sein Lieblingssong auf der neuen Platte sei "herzhaft", da habe er über einen Beat von Hainbach gesungen, einem "Berliner Programmierer, der aber nur mit seltsamen analogen Geräten arbeite" ... Konnte mein Glück kaum fassen, Hainbach im Radio ... megacool , Klasse, Herzlichen Glückwunsch 😃
@Hainbach
Жыл бұрын
Ach das freut mich so sehr, danke für diesen Kommentar!
Not certain if you could make a wax cylinder recording there, but down here in Sankt Georgen we have the Deutsches Phonographen-Museum. They do have a vast collection of phonographs (and other record players, mostly from Dual and Perpetuum Ebner as they were manufactured there). Maybe you could get in contact with them regarding your recording? But anyhow, it´s definetly worth a visit (and it´s also relatively easy to access by train, from Berlin you´d only have to change once in Karlsruhe).
@Hainbach
Жыл бұрын
That is near my old home town of Denzlingen! I see a visit coming