PDGA Rule Changes For The 2024 Disc Golf Season

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Swiss and Jefferson break down the brand-new rules the PDGA are implementing for the 2024 disc golf season. Let us know which rules you are a fan of and which you aren't
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  • @beatskeys1223
    @beatskeys12237 ай бұрын

    Gannon saying “no one’s gonna purposely take a minute” is hilarious

  • @daviddevries3034
    @daviddevries30347 ай бұрын

    Contributing the growth of the sport in 2020 to Brodie and not to the pandemic seems like an odd theory…

  • @JFlynn1207

    @JFlynn1207

    7 ай бұрын

    It was a joke, no?

  • @FizzyP

    @FizzyP

    7 ай бұрын

    @@JFlynn1207 A good joke, no less. LOL

  • @JFlynn1207

    @JFlynn1207

    7 ай бұрын

    @@FizzyP Haha, yea, i thought it was pretty good

  • @kerrykellett8717

    @kerrykellett8717

    7 ай бұрын

    Most of his are questionable.

  • @Picklemedia

    @Picklemedia

    7 ай бұрын

    *Lockdowns

  • @Discgolfanatic
    @Discgolfanatic7 ай бұрын

    As a viewer of events online, and not live, I would greatly prefer Aggregate Playoff. Its very anticlimactic to have a playoff, and its over after one hole because of one bad throw. Sudden death playoff doesn't reward overall skill as much, and it introduces a luck factor into play. If the first person up has a horrible throw with a near guaranteed bogey, the second person up will throw a safe shot off the tee, followed by another safe shot, etc until putting for par. Whippee.. 6 extra holes of each player trying to match and exceed what the other player does would make for much more enjoyable viewing experience for me. 6 maybe too much though. 4 followed by Sudden Death seems more reasonable.

  • @caseysmith544

    @caseysmith544

    7 ай бұрын

    I agree with this, it is like how Traditional Golf at least the PGA Had sudden death playoff but now does an odd number of holes 3 or was it 5 I forget, then if still tied score they keep going sudden death after that. Problem was that before Traditional Golf PGA had Sudden Death and it was not fair to the viewers as both often ended up playing conservative that led to being too conservative where they both just pared the holes, keeping it going way too long for TV or on the Golf Channel in USA where the channel got mad the game kept going and Traditional Golf already plays slower then Disc Golf.

  • @nmkloster

    @nmkloster

    6 ай бұрын

    But then again, playing a full round extra takes even more of the luck factor away. Whoever is up first has the choice of playing safe or risky and putting pressure on the other player(s). I don't think players will be more happy with an aggregate play off. At this point some player will still have played 4+ rounds of the best disc golf and still end up not winning. But I'm hoping they'll try it and see how the players feel.

  • @rjwalker4153

    @rjwalker4153

    5 ай бұрын

    I don't really understand the difference between sudden death and tied leaders when they play the 18th hole. Isn't that like sudden death too ? Can't that come down to luck too ? Doesn't the first player throwing have a disadvantage there too ? etc. It's all the same player wise. The only thing is, viewer wise it's better to finish on the 18th hole since that is where all the camera's and people are. But I like sudden death otherwise. I will agree however, that playing an aggregate 4 holes playoff that ends on 18 is ok too.

  • @caseysmith544

    @caseysmith544

    5 ай бұрын

    @@rjwalker4153 I say 3 holes as it needs to be an odd number to avoid a tie.

  • @rjwalker4153

    @rjwalker4153

    5 ай бұрын

    @@caseysmith544 Yes, 3 would be even better I think.

  • @kerrykellett8717
    @kerrykellett87177 ай бұрын

    I love the idea of aggrigate playoff followed by sudden death.

  • @BryceRogers_

    @BryceRogers_

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah it’s like an Overtime period in basketball vs. taking shots from behind the arc to decide the winner

  • @1RAWTEAM
    @1RAWTEAM7 ай бұрын

    Love TWIDG thank you both for all you hard work to keep everyone updated

  • @ssicari
    @ssicari7 ай бұрын

    I feel like the aggregate playoff is way more fair and dramatic than sudden death. I hope PDGA events do enforce this type of playoff. seeing a sudden death end because someone went OB on an island hole is always kind of anticlimactic (thinking of 2021 worlds, 2022 worlds, among others)

  • @willemschra2812

    @willemschra2812

    5 ай бұрын

    2022 dglo rip

  • @sjeffpost
    @sjeffpost7 ай бұрын

    The primary reason for an aggregate playoff is to be a better representation of the actual tournament. TDs could ensure that the playoff contained a variety of holes rather than one hole that might benefit one player's specific game even if it is the only one on the course that they would have an advantage on. Some PGA events have 3-hole aggregate playoffs for this reason.

  • @carlholland3819

    @carlholland3819

    3 ай бұрын

    how do you finish a tournament tied for the lead and only have 1 hole you have an advantage on?

  • @sjeffpost

    @sjeffpost

    3 ай бұрын

    @@carlholland3819 Only one hole you had an advantage on over the person you tied with. Example: You and I tie on 16 holes, but on the other two, one is clearly to my advantage and the other is clearly to your advantage based on our individual strengths and weaknesses. A single hole playoff on one of those two would clearly not be a good representation of our ability to play the entire course.

  • @KJDG21
    @KJDG217 ай бұрын

    I've never kept score in tournaments but I like the change lol

  • @DerekInTheFront
    @DerekInTheFront7 ай бұрын

    I’d be willing to bet at least 1 or both “playoffs” tournaments will have the aggregate playoff even just to try it out. Then maybe they’ll roll it out for a major the following season. I know MVP open wanted to do this a couple seasons ago but couldn’t bc of the PDGA. Personally I think it could be good but we’ll have to see

  • @discgolflife
    @discgolflife7 ай бұрын

    Middle aged dudes trying to caddy for kat Merch lol sounds like my buddy Eric 😂...

  • @carlholland3819

    @carlholland3819

    3 ай бұрын

    id only caddy for kat if sai isnt playing

  • @AnotherSteve1
    @AnotherSteve17 ай бұрын

    Nice Video, everyone keeping score is good and will be the one most violated.

  • @dbailey9954
    @dbailey99547 ай бұрын

    I’m tired of paying pdga membership fees for 1 tournament per year. $75 for pro with no perks and often poor annual rules modifications is bunk. I appreciated the option to pay a minimal bump for not being current. Now they make us be current just to show our prior play history. Just seems like they expect us to pay because they say so.

  • @playdiscgolf1546

    @playdiscgolf1546

    7 ай бұрын

    What’s stopping us from starting our own governing body. Does the pdga own all of disc golf? Negative!

  • @SmallDoggo37

    @SmallDoggo37

    7 ай бұрын

    @@playdiscgolf1546 Go for it lol

  • @moondogg_monte

    @moondogg_monte

    2 ай бұрын

    JomezPro/Gatekeeper Media >> PDGN/PDGT.

  • @nmkloster
    @nmkloster6 ай бұрын

    Been playing for 15 years. Still waiting for holing out to be simplified down to the disc being supported by the basket and no part of the playing surface (basically adding the top of the chain assembly). It's better now but has always been unnecessarily complicated.

  • @robertjones1730
    @robertjones17307 ай бұрын

    Everyone keeping score is gonna slow things down some. I don't mind keeping score but it sucks when I'm first on the box and instead of thinking about what I might do for my shot I'm figuring out the order and trying to recount someone's strokes, "was that a 5 or a 6?"

  • @trev3971

    @trev3971

    7 ай бұрын

    The real solution is to do like the PGA. Everyone keeps score for someone else.

  • @rjwalker4153

    @rjwalker4153

    4 ай бұрын

    I agree it will slow things down. Keeping ones own score card is enough, than to be keeping everyone else's too. It's ridiculous. Players have enough to concentrate on just playing their own game. If cheating or errors are that bad, then keeping score for one other person in the group might be tolerable, but not everyone. So that could be a compromise.

  • @IHandleSnakes
    @IHandleSnakes7 ай бұрын

    So, if every player on a card decides to take 25 seconds to throw, then what? What if I throw OB on a drive and instead of taking it where it went OB or from a DZ, I decide to re-tee until I land in bounds? I saw a guy recently throw from the tee pad three times because he refused to go the DZ. After his 3rd drive landed OB, he did go to to the DZ.

  • @mindlander

    @mindlander

    7 ай бұрын

    You can't. Pretty simple.

  • @kimmomatikainen1843

    @kimmomatikainen1843

    7 ай бұрын

    @@mindlander What do you mean by you can't? I think you can always throw from the previous lie with a penalty. if there is a rule that after OB, you can throw from OB or from previous lie, then you can throw several throws from previous lie and then decide to go to the DZ. If you throw from tee to OB, the next throw is 3rd throw. If you do it again, then the third throw is actually a 5th throw. If that goes to OB, then you go to DZ and throw your 7th.

  • @codyyates3437

    @codyyates3437

    6 ай бұрын

    @@mindlanderyou actually can lol is it smart to? Not always but there are times where yes it’s better to. If you do this tactic on every single OB stroke? Then you could potentially have a time violation put on you but for one or 2 holes? You’d be totally fine.

  • @bryanjenkins2931
    @bryanjenkins29317 ай бұрын

    I would be interested in a video on Disc Golf World's suggestion on what the PDGA could do to encourage more members.

  • @trev3971

    @trev3971

    7 ай бұрын

    Fire Heinold.

  • @knox71291

    @knox71291

    7 ай бұрын

    make it $10

  • @rjwalker4153

    @rjwalker4153

    4 ай бұрын

    Good idea. My idea is for them to create a new cheaper class of membership for "non tournament" players. Many players and viewers out there don't play tournaments for various reasons as you know. And some fans don't play at all, only watch. They might be beginners, hackers, play only for fun, have a bad arm, knee or hip, or are just old and hard to get around a course. So they might not play much even if they used to play. But they are still fans and they like watching. I'm one of them. These people might like a type of membership that gives them a subscription to the magazine, as well as a little discount to the disc golf channel, but not much else. It doesn't have to be the same discount or perks regular members get. But a cheaper membership that provided only those benefits might appeal to that group of people. It isn't bad for me now though, because I sometimes buy the magazine online anyway, and pay a reasonable pay per view on the disc golf channel for the major events I want to watch. But I don't watch enough to justify a full membership. And more of that money could be going to PDGA if they had a membership like that for non players.

  • @qbotics
    @qbotics7 ай бұрын

    Peeps be coming outta the woodwork to caddy for Kat! 😂

  • @_mcdrew
    @_mcdrew7 ай бұрын

    As someone who usually takes score, 100% in favor of 808. Just agree as a group that you'll clear the hole and then stop and take 30 seconds to do scores. PDGA live will do the rest and the auto-checking of scores between cards to detect mistakes is awesome. The scores will be more reliable.

  • @deepsender

    @deepsender

    7 ай бұрын

    I had players in my group laugh at me for keeping score on paper and asking to check their electronic scores. In one tournament this year, when I got home I checked my posted score against my paper card, and they gave me a 3 on a hole I took a 5.

  • @playdiscgolf1546
    @playdiscgolf15467 ай бұрын

    Alright let’s start a new separate governing body, with similar rules, minus the stupid ones, as the pdga, with less fees and overhead.

  • @orion7741

    @orion7741

    7 ай бұрын

    ABSOLUTELY! I 100% agree. we need a new governing body that does more for the sport and the players and also encompasses the rest of the world, not just the united states primarily. the pdga is a massive failure and is the reason that a ton of people refuse to play in tournaments!

  • @QAlba1074

    @QAlba1074

    6 ай бұрын

    The PDGA is terrified by your comment. LET'S GO!!

  • @playdiscgolf1546

    @playdiscgolf1546

    6 ай бұрын

    @@QAlba1074 I doubt it but why not? Right? Lol

  • @playdiscgolf1546

    @playdiscgolf1546

    6 ай бұрын

    @@orion7741 I’ve said the same thing for years about bowling and the USBC cuz they’ve done to bowling what the pdga is going to do (I fear)

  • @davepalmer9265
    @davepalmer92657 ай бұрын

    What td's are confusing gannon? 30 seconds when you address your lie. Not a ton if interpretation... if its your turn, you are your disc. 30 seconds to throw. It isnt confusing at all. Maybe part of trouble is that 30 seconds should ve extended to 50 seconds. Or take a page from the pga first person up gets additional 10 seconds, id be in favor of 45 second clock and fill minute for the first on tee and first up on fairway or green.

  • @WillEnj0y

    @WillEnj0y

    7 ай бұрын

    But if you were tasked with enforcing the rule, when would you start the timer? I know it doesn’t seem very confusing but at a professional level, there needs to be clear rules so that they can be enforced properly. Is it when you mark a disc? What if you don’t mark? Is it when you are standing near your lie? What if you don’t have a disc in hand yet? Is it when you are standing near your lie with a disc in hand? What if you haven’t cleared your lie of obstacles yet? It shouldn’t be hard for the pdga to define what the start of 30 seconds should be.

  • @kimmomatikainen1843

    @kimmomatikainen1843

    7 ай бұрын

    30 seconds doesn't start when you address your lie. If addressing your lie means when you come to your lie. You could go to the movies after previous thrower and come back after 3 hours to throw your disc without a penalty. I don't understand why people make this simple rule so complicated. Player has a reasonable amount of time to arrive at and determine the lie. That is in the rule book. As an official: Player A throws and I wait until that disc lands. Then I walk quite slowly to player B's lie and start the clock when I arrive to the lie. If player keeps using range finder and stops and talks with card mates, clock is on already before player comes to the lie. Reasonable amount of time is basically the time it takes to walk to your own lie after previous thrower. It is as simple as that. If lie is difficult and player struggles to get there, time is off and there is no 30 second rule. If player keeps avoiding going there, I say out loud that this takes too long and 30 seconds starts soon.

  • @carlholland3819

    @carlholland3819

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kimmomatikainen1843 people dont make the rule complicated. its the pdga that uses vague terminology and the officials and cardmates that enforce the rule arbitrarily

  • @Mdjagg
    @Mdjagg7 ай бұрын

    Scoring should be done like ball golf... Each person has an opponents card, and you keep a single person's score. Having everyone keep everyone's is pretty dumb, and will have it's own problems of needing a group hudle every hole.

  • @curranbrownlee9671

    @curranbrownlee9671

    7 ай бұрын

    Agreed, the fact that they also added rules to speed up the pace of play makes it even more strange. Their new score card system will definitely slow the game down to some extent.

  • @Mdjagg

    @Mdjagg

    7 ай бұрын

    Exactly

  • @lukefisher2113

    @lukefisher2113

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah, 4 players keeping all 4 players scores is just going to be a nightmare.

  • @skatterbug
    @skatterbug7 ай бұрын

    That last rule change is that I can play C-tiers without the $10 non-PDGA player fee? 🙏 if that's right

  • @terot8341

    @terot8341

    7 ай бұрын

    is 10$ per year too much?

  • @skatterbug

    @skatterbug

    7 ай бұрын

    @@terot8341 it's not $10 a year. It's $10 extra per event. I played 3 tournaments this year. Paying $10x3 is cheaper than paying for the $60 membership. What's even cheaper is not having to pay an extra $10 to play .

  • @jamesturner7488

    @jamesturner7488

    7 ай бұрын

    @@terot8341 It is $50 per year to have a PDGA number, or an additional $10 (on top of registration fees) per tournament played if you don't have one. So if you play more than 5 events a year it would be worth it to get a PDGA number.

  • @orion7741

    @orion7741

    7 ай бұрын

    @@terot8341 its not $10 per year though, its $10 per event. and yes, it is too much. there should not be ANY charge for non members to play in sanctioned events. the pdga is just pure greed.

  • @terot8341

    @terot8341

    7 ай бұрын

    @@orion7741 But PDGA menbers should still pay tournament fee? Why non members sould get free tournaments but members not?

  • @IanBoyerdiscgolf
    @IanBoyerdiscgolf7 ай бұрын

    My boy Micah groth at 0:14

  • @HuckBuddies
    @HuckBuddies7 ай бұрын

    We freaking love how you speak your mind about the keyboard warriors out here. Criticizing others when most haven't made a single video. And can't appreciate. What making a video takes. 😊 I will have to add some of these to our disc golf technicalities. Our mini series shorts. Much appreciated 😊

  • @carlholland3819

    @carlholland3819

    3 ай бұрын

    ya its always nice criticizing your viewers

  • @HuckBuddies

    @HuckBuddies

    3 ай бұрын

    @@carlholland3819 video link at bottom. Is it Nice? Yet here you are with no content, criticizing creators. people like yourself don't subscribe. Yet here you are critiquing others. I do a mini series of videos specifically for your type of category. This piece of work below brought to you by creators specifically for haters. Freedom of speech, don't get mad when I use mine, just as you used yours. Have a happy safe weekend. kzread.info5t2PXV50j1Y?si=GcMpKgz015D9JHbW

  • @endebtedone
    @endebtedone7 ай бұрын

    I want to know when Disc Golf Jesus will get Innova to make the Halo Groove.... surely they have seen his videos by now as it has been going on for half a year now

  • @playdiscgolf1546

    @playdiscgolf1546

    7 ай бұрын

    For real! Halo Colt would be awesome. It’s not very popular, but a very underrated throwing putter

  • @davepalmer9265

    @davepalmer9265

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@playdiscgolf1546get at it, "playing every single day, for that halo colt"

  • @carlholland3819

    @carlholland3819

    3 ай бұрын

    why would they do that? everybody hates the groove

  • @Crunchyr1ce
    @Crunchyr1ce7 ай бұрын

    The Kat Mersch comment was so funny, is there truth to that joke that could get me a story from somebody?

  • @TheButlerNZ
    @TheButlerNZ6 ай бұрын

    Old rule B.1. [Snip]... typed in a workaround then un-paused the video to see the exact thing explained by Casey White. Keeping independent scores. Great... (I'm hopeless at it (I talk too much, ADD, easily distracted, dyslexic etc but can cope)).. BUT... Does U-Disc (Or any handy scoring app that allows multiple user input in realtime) allow (6) people to enter (6) scores for one person so the average guy throwing plastic at trees can be ready for a tournament without being faced with a new app. Or does it just mean.. you put YOUR score on the One card, and the others do the same.. Meaning you all have to carry a phone (a hassle in the summer).. I can see this remaining the good ol "Can you score" for non events, and a struggle for noobs at an event... Followed by Caddies doing the scoring... OMG more reason to have a caddie. uhhh Do we get penalised for getting the score wrong for one of the other players... when they should be doing their own scores... BTW I am very Mediocre... am in a cold sweat about when I'll have my 1st event... and have only the basic shared idea of the rules... (In fact it would be good for some content providers to pop a quick "did you know" rule pop up to keep viewers familiar with the million rules.

  • @allisonandrews3266
    @allisonandrews32666 ай бұрын

    I can't even remember to keep my score properly on udisc when playing solo. Trying to keep everyone's score in a tournament will be challenging. It should help with scoring issues though so I dont disagree with the rule change. Just need to find a caddie now. 😂

  • @leopard3131

    @leopard3131

    5 ай бұрын

    Caddie or just make it a habit to score when you are at the next tee.

  • @ScottSmith-vc5vf
    @ScottSmith-vc5vf7 ай бұрын

    Lol. Gannon would say that a minute is no problem. He is sooooo slow.

  • @jasonurroz570
    @jasonurroz5707 ай бұрын

    Player Speed: Not all shots are created equal. If you're deep in the rough, have a blind shot, or are in an awkward location, you may need to walk around and evaluate your options. How does the 30-second clock affect these situations? What happens if you throw your disc in the mud and want to throw the same disc? You mark your lie, have to clean your disc and throw within 30-seconds? Some sort of common sense needs to be applied to "when the clock starts". Walking up to you disc and/or marking the lie cannot be the determining factor.

  • @kimmomatikainen1843

    @kimmomatikainen1843

    7 ай бұрын

    I have been an official for a long time. It is not in a rule book, but I was taught to respect players and be flexible and that is what all the officials who I know do. If disc in a really bad place and even hard to get to the disc, clock is off. Of course player doesn't get unlimited time. At some point just have to say that you have spent long enough and you should be in your lie and throw already. There are situations when it is almost impossible to throw within 30 seconds. Being an official isn't really that difficult. Unfortunately common sense is disappearing from people's heads. It is also very clearly stated in the rule book when 30 second starts. Player has a reasonable amount of time to arrive at and determine the lie. it is purely impossible to set an exact time from previous throw. If previous player's lie is in 3 ft from yours, you are basically on your lie so you are given only maybe 5-10 seconds until clock starts. If there is a massive downhill and player throws from high up and the whole group needs to climb down. Of course it takes more time to get to the lie. If I am an official, I walk with the group. Player A throws and player B is next. After player A has thrown, I walk quite slowly to a lie of player B and when I arrive to the lie, time starts. If I don't walk with the group and stand behind. I just watch and count in my mind what is an approximate time that takes for a player B to reach to the lie and then start the clock. Time doesn't start from previous thrower or when you come to your lie. Both would be dumb. If time starts when you come to your lie, you can go for lunch between and come back in two hours if you never went to your lie.

  • @jasonurroz570

    @jasonurroz570

    7 ай бұрын

    @@kimmomatikainen1843 I support all of this ^^^

  • @carlholland3819

    @carlholland3819

    3 ай бұрын

    @@kimmomatikainen1843 if the rule is subjective and arbitrary then why have it at all?

  • @Precisionmagert
    @Precisionmagert7 ай бұрын

    I really like the rule that everybody on the card has to take a score cause I know a lot of people I played with never wanna take score

  • @innerlightflip

    @innerlightflip

    6 ай бұрын

    I agree. I really like this rule. It's anyways funny to show up to the first tee at a tournament and see how many adult crybabies simply refuse to take score. It baffles me. If you don't want to take score, why are you playing a tournament? Why do you even play disc golf, where score is an integral part. Just go play catch.

  • @leopard3131

    @leopard3131

    5 ай бұрын

    Completely agree with this rule as well and yes it is painful players don't want to score .

  • @maximuskvatek3586
    @maximuskvatek35867 ай бұрын

    dude your from wisco???

  • @chadjacksonDG
    @chadjacksonDG7 ай бұрын

    I love rule 808/ All players have to keep score. To many cry babies always make me do it and it’s not fair. So now if people want to play the game, your gonna get the whole experience.😂

  • @mindlander

    @mindlander

    7 ай бұрын

    Sounds like you get bullied into doing it and you're the crybaby lol

  • @LoyalDW
    @LoyalDW7 ай бұрын

    That Brodie joke was so good.

  • @FizzyP
    @FizzyP7 ай бұрын

    Drew Gibson fired you?! What did you do, crack a beer during a round?

  • @noaht658

    @noaht658

    7 ай бұрын

    My buddy wants to caddy for me and actually asked if he could drink haha. Does anyone know the rules regarding this during tournaments (for caddies not players).

  • @FizzyP

    @FizzyP

    7 ай бұрын

    @@noaht658 You definitely cannot drink! I brought it up specifically as a joke because somebody got famously DQed for it. Maybe it was Valerie Jenkins mom who opened a beer while caddying for her or something? I forget. It was funny.

  • @thediscgolfworld

    @thediscgolfworld

    7 ай бұрын

    It was actually a joke tweet - Jefferson

  • @davepalmer9265

    @davepalmer9265

    7 ай бұрын

    Keep vodka in a water bottle. As long as you arent falling down slurring words or getting attention, your fiiine

  • @dukemcawesome

    @dukemcawesome

    7 ай бұрын

    @@FizzyP per the PDGA's statement page about the situation, her mom had been spectating and had an empty beer can in her possession when Valerie asked her mom to caddy for her. Her mom wasn't drinking while caddying, just in possession of an empty beer can.

  • @vicccey1345
    @vicccey13454 ай бұрын

    the rules are made for everybody....case in point about the disc being wedged in the cage counting...people didn't take into account the possibility of a disc hitting pole and then coming out getting wedged in the cage.....Ive played courses where the disc has fallen through the top and bottom of the basket....not all basket are in good shape.....but like this episode the changes are automatically viewed through the pro tour lens .......that is a mistake

  • @dirtworxphotography245
    @dirtworxphotography2456 ай бұрын

    Ive never liked the scoring on phones and only 1 score keeper. On paper and all 4 players need to keep score sounds good

  • @crabbyjimmy1
    @crabbyjimmy17 ай бұрын

    Forcing a PDGA membership to play a C tier event would’ve ended up destroying the PDGA financially I can’t believe it was even on the table but we’ve seen how greedy it’s gotten in just three years. Just the whole pay to watch the pros was such a punch in the face to the fan. And Paul M hates it because the overall loss of the fans and he’s not alone on this subject among other pros.

  • @Picklemedia
    @Picklemedia7 ай бұрын

    @0:38 Drew block me from his KZread channel because I told him I thought his intro music was too long, or something of that nature.

  • @WillEnj0y

    @WillEnj0y

    7 ай бұрын

    Lol the truth hurts

  • @penliu3826
    @penliu38267 ай бұрын

    one of these guys sounds like LevelCap

  • @chuckkifer1551
    @chuckkifer15517 ай бұрын

    I'll be first volunteer to caddy for Kat.

  • @FizzyP

    @FizzyP

    7 ай бұрын

    I'll take sloppy seconds.

  • @markmcgarity

    @markmcgarity

    7 ай бұрын

    🤣@@FizzyP

  • @robertjones1730

    @robertjones1730

    7 ай бұрын

    Middle aged man checking in here: I'll keep score for her

  • @seanmacgillivray7831

    @seanmacgillivray7831

    7 ай бұрын

    If she is wearing that red dress she might have 20 caddys

  • @davepalmer9265

    @davepalmer9265

    7 ай бұрын

    You'll all have to wipe the tears and snot off her face if she wins. Bring ear plugs

  • @jasonurroz570
    @jasonurroz5707 ай бұрын

    Aggregate Playoff: Let's pretend we have a right and a left playing off. The first hole of the playoff is a 450' RHBH hyzer line. Seems unfair. I would be in favor of a 3-Hole aggregate playoff to give the lefty / sidearm dominant player a fighting chance to equalize (assuming the RHBH player capitalizes on the advantage).

  • @NeilSuggs
    @NeilSuggs7 ай бұрын

    That video dissed the pdga right there at the end right? I’m #19032. Keep ur shit up and keep it movin. How can you complain?

  • @orion7741

    @orion7741

    7 ай бұрын

    not hard to do, the pdga is a dumpster fire and is taking the sport down with it.... the pdga is pure trash and needs to be replaced with a organization that actually does stuff for the sport and the players.

  • @carlholland3819

    @carlholland3819

    3 ай бұрын

    oh ya? im #19020. stfu and dry off my putters. nobody cares what your number is

  • @chrishartzell1487
    @chrishartzell14877 ай бұрын

    Ironically, I'm not thrilled about the scorekeeping rule change. During a tournament I don't want to be worried about keeping score, especially since I'm not the greatest at the game, but for some reason every time I play a casual round with my friends. I'm always the first to jump on scorekeeping.

  • @chrishartzell1487

    @chrishartzell1487

    7 ай бұрын

    For some reason just keeping score affects my mental game during a tournament. I can't really explain why .

  • @Joe_Handsome

    @Joe_Handsome

    7 ай бұрын

    @@chrishartzell1487 This is the reason why everyone should have to do it and it's a good change. It's not fair to always get to offload the extra responsibility onto another card mate.

  • @IHandleSnakes
    @IHandleSnakes7 ай бұрын

    Why can't I continue to throw from the tee or previous lie? Just add a stroke and throw another throw, repeat until I decide to stop. Rule 806.02 Out of Bounds D. A player whose disc is out-of-bounds receives one penalty throw. The player may play the next throw from: 1. The previous lie; or, 2. A lie designated by a marker disc placed on the playing surface up to one meter away from the point where the disc was last in-bounds. The above options for an out-of-bounds area may be limited by the Director only with prior approval from the PDGA Director of Event Support. At the Director's discretion, the player may additionally choose to play the next throw from: 3. Within the designated drop zone; or, 4. A lie designated by a marker disc placed on the playing surface up to one meter away from the point on the out-of-bounds line nearest the position of the disc.

  • @kimmomatikainen1843

    @kimmomatikainen1843

    7 ай бұрын

    You can always throw from your previous lie with a one stroke penalty. I did not see any change to this rule when I went through rule changes for 2024.

  • @harryteevee9569
    @harryteevee95696 ай бұрын

    Cheating is a problem at some tournaments. especially c tier. Each person keeping a card will hopefully get rid of the cheating because the scorekeepers refuse to count their buddy's mis mando and triple putts. Now the non cheaters have a voice, and will be exposing the deliberate cheating of the math challenged score keepers. Tempers will get hot, cheaters don't like being exposed.

  • @leopard3131

    @leopard3131

    5 ай бұрын

    This is so true. I played a tournament once and the other 3 players were all buddies. They started giving me penalty strokesafter i called one of them out. Never took so many penalty strokes while watching blatant rule violations.

  • @carlholland3819

    @carlholland3819

    3 ай бұрын

    cheating is a problem on the pro tour too. i keep seeing men playing in the FPO

  • @scottydubs
    @scottydubs7 ай бұрын

    that scorecard rule is gonna be bad.

  • @adamdahlgren5062
    @adamdahlgren50627 ай бұрын

    was not brody smith but covid

  • @carlholland3819

    @carlholland3819

    3 ай бұрын

    ya but brody smith started covid so hes technically right

  • @urbaniv
    @urbaniv7 ай бұрын

    Still no referees on elite series Tournaments? I don't get it

  • @orion7741

    @orion7741

    7 ай бұрын

    wrong sport.... there have already been officials following groups at the elite events for the past couple years.

  • @mindlander
    @mindlander7 ай бұрын

    Swiss cheese, the guy who has full arguments with trees after he hits them.

  • @loopedmess
    @loopedmess7 ай бұрын

    2020 brody showed up and brought 2 million fans to the sport. Coincidentally after seeing a massive influx of new members that was also the year u disc tripled its membership fee and it has at least doubled that since. (Greedy) G'day

  • @user-oz2zj8df9o

    @user-oz2zj8df9o

    5 ай бұрын

    Yeah, it had nothing to do with a pandemic and people with nothing else to do 😂😂

  • @carlholland3819

    @carlholland3819

    3 ай бұрын

    @@user-oz2zj8df9o the pandemic is why udisc started ripping people off? i dont get it

  • @codyslonim9990
    @codyslonim99907 ай бұрын

    As for the scoring, there is a problem the PDGA hasn't thought about. Players who compete that are protected by the ADA. There may not be many, but there are disabled players competing. Myself being one, I can't be forced to keep score. Due, being protected by the American Disabilities Act.

  • @terot8341

    @terot8341

    7 ай бұрын

    well then you propably won't play PDGA tournaments. I don't see any problem with this new rule, it's been used several years allready in Finland.

  • @jaykorybski2871

    @jaykorybski2871

    7 ай бұрын

    Would that apply? If the ADA keeps you from having to follow an established rule of the sport, you could then flaunt it to circumvent any rule of your choosing. "Because of the ADA, I'm not required to land in the basket to hole-out. I just have to land within 10 feet of it."

  • @jakebourassa

    @jakebourassa

    7 ай бұрын

    Out of curiosity, what disability would be preventing you from keeping score?

  • @terot8341

    @terot8341

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jakebourassa propably nothing.

  • @orion7741

    @orion7741

    7 ай бұрын

    ummmm, if you can throw a disc, then you can use a pencil and paper..... there is nothing prohibiting your ability to write down numbers on a scorecard. stop trying to use your disability as an excuse for your laziness.

  • @samhowl1152
    @samhowl11527 ай бұрын

    Man what did you do in three rounds

  • @VojtechRozsival
    @VojtechRozsival4 ай бұрын

    Along with the need of being a member for C tier there was a proposal of a new D-tier, which you somehow forget. For me the most annoying is the ban of speakers even on C tiers. I wear my Geosound Explorer with me for couple years and get only a positive feedback. It is just for my group, nobody else is affected by it in any means. Sometimes I just hear jealous reaction from other group realizing we have music and they do not. And now I can be called a courtesy violation?! For making someones day even nicer? This is just a bad rule and I do not see the motivation for it. The fact you must not annoy or disrupt other players is in the rules already for quite some time... That is yet another example of "preventive restriction" instead of ppl communication and respect. BTW "I love discgolf" and "I am not a member of PDGA"? Somehow cannot comprehend this...

  • @kimmomatikainen1843
    @kimmomatikainen18437 ай бұрын

    Some people love to complicate their lives. 30 second rule is very simple. Rule is clear. Player has a reasonable amount of time to arrive at and determine the lie. It means that previous player throws and the whole group watches the flight to see where the disc lands. Then the next player walks to his/her lie. Official, in my opinion, should do this. Once disc has come to rest, official quite slowly walks to the next player's lie. Once official comes to that lie, he/she starts the timer. That is reasonable amount of time. There can't be exact time. if next lie is within 5 feet, it takes 5-10 seconds to get to that lie. If the next lie is on the bottom of a massive hill. It can 5 minutes to come to the next lie. How can you set a specific time when walk to the lie can take from 5 seconds to 5 minutes? And it is not possible to have a rule that time starts when player marks his/her lie. Player can spend 5 hours before marking a lie without getting a penalty. I like current rule and it is very clear. People just complicates it. I agree with Gannon on one thing. Too often officials don't understand this simple rule. Some officials start the time from the time when previous player throws and some when player marks the lie. Both are wrong. PDGA should have a register for officials and they should have their own forum or group where rules and rule changes can be discussed with PDGA's rule team. Ideally each official would take a minute to think what rules mean and check from PDGA if they are not sure about something. Unfortunately common sense is not very common anymore.

  • @richardhancey8353
    @richardhancey83537 ай бұрын

    Good, watching Gannon putt is painful, would never want to play with him....ttttday junior

  • @FA-Q20-1

    @FA-Q20-1

    5 ай бұрын

    I worked a tournament as crowd control for a card he was on. I wanted to shoot myself watching him.

  • @MegaFlorest
    @MegaFlorest7 ай бұрын

    I think you should be forced to sign up to the PDGA to play leagues....and then I'd hope every local TD sanction their weeklies. Get these duffers off my course...*pff , not signing up to our professional association...ridiculous.

  • @LaxinPhilly
    @LaxinPhilly7 ай бұрын

    Is there such a thing as a "due delay" then? Who establishes if it's due or undue and what definition are they using. I swear the PDGA writes rules like that spoiled rich kid in every sport: if they're not winning everyone must be cheating.

  • @JAMman
    @JAMman7 ай бұрын

    #letmenweartanks

  • @kalen1702
    @kalen17026 ай бұрын

    Not a fan of the rule about everyone keeping score. I know a lot of people that don't want to look at tournament scores for the first round (or even the last round at local tournaments). There are also many pros that don't want to know the score until it matters towards the end, so this will be a weird mental game for some of them.

  • @malkiha

    @malkiha

    6 ай бұрын

    It's called a caddie

  • @kalen1702

    @kalen1702

    6 ай бұрын

    @@malkiha Yeah Im just going to bring a caddie for a local C-Tier..

  • @QAlba1074

    @QAlba1074

    6 ай бұрын

    Me neither. I don't even want to have my phone on me during a tournament.

  • @VojtechRozsival

    @VojtechRozsival

    4 ай бұрын

    I do not watch the scores even if I keep them. You can hide it in Udisc and PDGA app. Plus if you write it on a paperm it is up to you if you count or not. 😉

  • @carlholland3819
    @carlholland38193 ай бұрын

    the biggest rule that needed changed was to stop letting men play in the FPO

  • @BigJuice77
    @BigJuice774 ай бұрын

    Andddd that aggregate playoff already happened in Mexico, and as a result KJ didn't win the tournament

  • @GT31366
    @GT313667 ай бұрын

    first :o

  • @OjaiBonsai
    @OjaiBonsai7 ай бұрын

    Traditional golf changes rules all the time.

  • @ericjepson3765

    @ericjepson3765

    7 ай бұрын

    Ball golf?

  • @reggin2076

    @reggin2076

    7 ай бұрын

    @@ericjepson3765 im sure ball golf or foot golf has rule changes I'm not sure, but golf changes rules all the time.

  • @FizzyP

    @FizzyP

    7 ай бұрын

    Yeah but they're just playing with their balls. We can do better.

  • @ericjepson3765

    @ericjepson3765

    7 ай бұрын

    @@reggin2076 Foot golf?

  • @Jfriesheatingandcooling
    @Jfriesheatingandcooling6 ай бұрын

    Why does the pdga think it's a good idea to change rules every fucking year. Glad I gave up the sport.

  • @Derek_1111
    @Derek_11117 ай бұрын

    I was hoping a ban on jump/step putting would be a rule change. And side arms. Side arms gotta go. Players all need to learn to throw lefty and righty.

  • @orion7741

    @orion7741

    7 ай бұрын

    lol. nice attempt at a joke. still failed though.

  • @krishnagoon
    @krishnagoon7 ай бұрын

    Pdga sucks... brodie Smith also

  • @slickmitch
    @slickmitch4 ай бұрын

    Atrocious audio levels.

  • @brettduffin8412
    @brettduffin84127 ай бұрын

    To complain about spending $50 once per year is just bizzare. Disc golf needs more money at all levels. It is stupid cheap at the moment and feels like it.

  • @orion7741

    @orion7741

    7 ай бұрын

    the problem is that nobody can actually account for where all the money the pdga collects from players memberships is going to.... they are making massive amounts of money every year, and where is it going to ???? the pdga does not pay the players, they dont do anything really other than make up retarded rules and making TD's lives harder.

  • @QAlba1074

    @QAlba1074

    6 ай бұрын

    @@orion7741I'd like to know where all the fees for signing up for tourneys on the "disc golf scene" go to. Anybody know???

  • @leogoku13
    @leogoku137 ай бұрын

    Kat is a 2 at best

  • @carlholland3819

    @carlholland3819

    3 ай бұрын

    2/10, are you insane? shes at least a 5 just for being young and fit

  • @leogoku13

    @leogoku13

    3 ай бұрын

    @@carlholland3819 her shitty attitude brings her down 5 points at least

  • @GStat7
    @GStat77 ай бұрын

    Having everyone record everyones score is pretty dumb and unnecessary. All that does is cause more complication and distractions

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