We could go up but we need the services and also some space between buildings... there is hardly any space between the very high buildings we are seeing

Patrick seems to have quite some institutional memory on the Nairobi's Planning Department at NCC. Commendable.

Kudos to the station for asking tough questions to which the city planner didnt have answers. Bring him back and the the publick ask quedtions

I have never had someone spew so much hot air in one show

We are doomed, he just said its business as usual, the people are just complaining. 😢

Patrick Analo is a true statement of fact. He represents science and development. Only such people in offices will develop Kenya and not those who will encourage fragmentation of land in rural areas for residential purposes instead of agricultural farming to feed the cities. Kenya hasn't seen highrise buildings yet. Out there 70, 80, 90, and above story buildings are normal. Wake up Nairobi people.

@abisaiamatalo2769

4 ай бұрын

very true. Kenyans always hate those who bring ideas that don't conform to their daily way of doing things. It is an African thing. So, when people like Analo bring good ideas. they are quickly ridiculed. I guess Africans just love chaos, i.e. Matatu kind of mentality.

@esthersserwanga

4 ай бұрын

I agree with you about the plans but his communication skills are zero. His plans will work out if he carries the people with him and he can only do this by educating, informing, communicating. Otherwise even phd studies have been done on the role of participative communication in development and how it can make or break the grandest of plans.

@abisaiamatalo2769

4 ай бұрын

@@esthersserwanga great people have always been poor orators. Starting from Moses who was a stammerer. Sweet and smooth talkers do very little. They easily lie and sugar coat their lies. Kenyans love being lied to.

@esthersserwanga

4 ай бұрын

Then he needs to find an Aaron like Moses did. Let’s not unfairly characterize Kenyans as ‘like being lied to.’ As a person in leadership, he needs to find a way to communicate what he needs to … he can be media trained for one to enable him respond to queries but the council should perhaps consider having more ways to put out this kind of information before people start speculating and then they have to defend themselves after the fact. As I said, I agree with you in that he put out the right information but I remain critical of his communication style and it will hurt his efforts.

@leewythaka8309

4 ай бұрын

​@@esthersserwangahe's not a spokesperson he does not need to be eloquent. As long as he is competent in the job he's doing.

Infrastructure comes ahead of other developments. Good & informative discussion. He has put his best.

Information for the public is vital. This is good engagement, let County of Nairobi departments have more of such communication engagements.

Well answered Patrick.

Hehehe this guy is a clear representation of our government. Talks over people, very rude and doesn't care what 'my dear sister' is trying to put across.... "I have been in Paris.." he says 😂

@fatmahnoor3717

4 ай бұрын

He went to paris so ehat!..Nairobi is different from paris..Nairobi has been sold to the highest bidder!..This guy is corrupt!..Chinese are the highest bidders!

@supadupaforever

4 ай бұрын

Let it be known 😂😂😂

@safari23

4 ай бұрын

Succinctly stated…Miss Okoh utterly and totally outraged.

this is pure ruto student, in two years time

@lawrencemwai9316

4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

24:57 Where can Kenyans get a copy of this 'New Plan'?

@jerrywaswa6248

4 ай бұрын

It is Nairobi Integrated Urban Development Master Plan (NIUPLAN) not Newplan. There are some volumes online

Big words no content, such guys are the problem very big ego. He is more of a politician than an administrator

Let's this man's job to Ndu😂 she seems to understand much about the assignment much better than the man being interviewed

Insightful

from my simple knowledge in building ...if you build a simple 3 bedroom unit you need to sort sewage first before the occupant gets inside the house ....in Patrick Analos case he is a smart fellow he allows the house to be built , lets the occupant in , the sewage comes out then he picks the sewage to be dumped some where else , we have not talked about water , width of the road for traffic ,public spaces ,the list goes on ,he is a genius

Very informative interview

Infrastructure includes the effluent system. And thats the most important

The first question before the interview started should have been a disclaimer and asked if he owns or has developed any high rise buildings in the city. The arrogance appears to be like someone with a conflict of interest

The distances between buildings are such that all natural daylight is blocked and I've is forced to use KPLC which already cannot cope with the existing clients

In the philosophy of infrastructure v development, can't there be a chain working system where for one to happen the other has to match and vice versa?

Wueh! That is the system speaking.

Any 13 floor high rise turns into a terrible way to live. They tried this in the west and now 20 yrs later they have mainly been demolished. Don't know the rule height now but I think its around 5 max. Treat poorest people like cattle doing 13 floor horrible way to live. I'm European and in my town three 15 floor dumps were demolished due to criminals harassing the residents for money.

It is shocking when Ndu understands the basics than the planner😂

Incaseof a fire or any catastrophe God forbid are there spaces provided if I have 10 storeys you need some green spaces also or a playground for kids.

28:55 "I think it's important to have trust in authorities."😂

@howardnyaga6391

4 ай бұрын

Said that with a straight face 😂😂😂😂😂

@lawrencemwai9316

4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@lawrencemwai9316

4 ай бұрын

This guy is a clown!!

This guy understands what he’s talking about. I am a victim of 3M rule where stupid neighbors encroach on that to the extent that only one vehicle can be on the road at a time. It gets particularly ugly during the rainy season when the stretch gets treacherous. Standoffs happen with nobody willing to drive in reverse to clear the road for the other. All because the 3M rule is disregarded!

I'm glad that there is a Minister who from the good of his heart, directed that Highrise buildings be allowed in Kilimani/Kileleshwa. Granted. But did he also consider the effluent system? The problem with Africa is that our understanding of a slam is limited to Mathare/Kibra/Nima/Ashiama. Kilimani/Kileleshwa is basically a highrise slam. And all those highrise buildings are empty because the developers used the opportunity to "clean" their looted funds.

@TheTororist

4 ай бұрын

slum

@IamWhoYouSayIam

4 ай бұрын

@@TheTororist The Terrorist. But again, I was always away during English lessons so I thank you immensely for you generosity.

@TheTororist

4 ай бұрын

anytime. some people say its irritating to correct someones spelling, but misspelling is an epidemic in this country@@IamWhoYouSayIam

"Is it wrong to go up?" Why ask the question? The issue is balance. Congestion is not good if you don't have a corresponding infrastructure needs to support the population. How do you harmonize the competing interests?

@AAA-sx5ej

4 ай бұрын

He just said, even Paris is building a new metro line 30 metres below the old one. Infrastructure will follow development

Avoid this guys at any cost Spice FM. Big English with no sense.

The 2 philosophies are ok but what is the practical approach? Develop the infrastructure then follow with development coz this then enables you to control standards.

@AAA-sx5ej

4 ай бұрын

The private sector does the building and govt do the infrastructure. The private sector has delivered on the part but the govt is lagging behind in developing the infrastructure. We should also privatise infrastructure development

With all ego aside, if development would be allowed then infrastructure to follow, if the was all those years with a legal gap, that tells you all you need to know. Everything is done on purpose.

This is the new trend of leadership and public administration. Highly educated, trained and knowledgeable individuals in positions of authority, deliberately and knowingly using all this tools in there disposal to obfuscate principles and excuse mediocrity in the name of expediency. This is intellectual defeatism and will result in unworkable, dysfunctional and corrupt system mired in daily confusion, explosion of boundless costly problem spots and creation of avoidable future conundrums in growth sustainability. Eventually it will create a bottleneck in planning and development path where the daily preoccupation of local govt is expensive solution to untangle itself, instead of well design growth trajectory as is evident with our nonchalantly excused past failures. Adversarial approach to issues of public concern is not the right skill set for public service. We must be humble, ethical, accountable and have an above board, balanced, professional response to solutions. Some arguments and thought processes exhibited herein would thrive in the murky competitive egotistic world of private sector.

Nairobi's population has increased 100 fold since independence and the middle class has grown tremendously. There's no way you can continue to have low density estates only 5km from the CBD.

Sufficient fresh water in the city in 2years...will be watching that one

If you create barrows also they should be given finances.

The county needed to come up with the rules and standards that reflected the policies and objectives of the NIUPLAN. If they had done that in a timely manner, there would have been controlled development in Nairobi County. As it is now they are playing catch up. Coupled with greed and bribery, the result is uncontrolled development in Kilimani and other middle class suburbs.

Ameshiba sana. By virtue of his position in the county

If this guy is incharge of Nairobi planning, then this city is doomed

@abisaiamatalo2769

4 ай бұрын

Has Nairobi even been better? Ten years ago, some Company wanted to put up a waste to energy plant to dispose off the waste on Dandora. They were told by some cartels to part with Ksh2Billion. That was way before the current office holders. So we know those Cartels are always in control of Nairobi. Stop blaming this young man.

@papd3532

4 ай бұрын

@@abisaiamatalo2769 Check the work of Samuel Ayany ,director National Housing Corporation 1965-1983 when population of Nairobi was below 500k . He was responsible for planning and construction of multiple function housing estates both affordable and middle income including Ngei ,Onyonka, Otiende etc . Nairobi destroyed under Daniel Moi dictatorship sabotaging Nairobi through commissions headed by Fred Gumo, Kimani Kongo etc .

@jacquilinekurgat9017

4 ай бұрын

It's like he was defending an academic dissertation 😢

@abisaiamatalo2769

4 ай бұрын

but the questions were all academic like because those asking questions know a lot about Nairobi and cartels. They know why Sonko was kicked out. Nairobi needs military personnel to run it so that cartels have no say in anything through the courts. @@jacquilinekurgat9017

@bingorolly

4 ай бұрын

Disabled leadership 😢

Very sad, how do you allow construction of a structure that violet the city building and zone law. It does not matter where the constructor is hiding, the city insure you either comply or the structure will come done

The guy keeps saying the construction in Kilimani is for Kenyans. How many Kenyans can genuinely afford those high priced apartments. The construction is for real estate speculators, most of whom are foreign.

@fatmahnoor3717

4 ай бұрын

Very true!..most of this apartments in kilimani and kilileshwa and Riara is own by foreingers!..like chinese South sudanese,Rwandese,Eygptians,Nigerians,Somalis,Ethiopians!..Nairobi has been sold to the highest BIDDER!..kenyans are employed in this highest apartments are employed security guards,House helps,Nannies,and drivers!..😂😂

@fatmahnoor3717

4 ай бұрын

We just accept our city has been sold to foreigners!..my question is will this foreigners VOTE for THEM?…

The man is sooooo defensive. One would imagine that this was an opportunity to inform and educate but instead he has just come out guns blazing and talking down at people. We don’t know these things he is talking about; they are just in his head, him and his colleagues thus all the questions. We don’t all sit in the meetings so si they just put simplified plans and place them on the council website and on social media otherwise we will continue to imagine there are no plans. And trust is earned; people don’t trust authority JUST because it’s an ‘authority.’ You have to earn the trust of the people and trust meter for most people in this city is pretty much pointing at zero. Separately, I was getting irritated on Ndu’s behalf on his continued insistence on calling her ‘my sister’ 🙄🙄. And what is this ‘His Excellency The Governor’ business all the time? If he just calls him The Governor or Gov Sakaja will it be seen as insubordination? Anyway, let me stop here because …

@AAA-sx5ej

4 ай бұрын

Are u a private sector developer or just a noise maker?

Create more karens in other areas . Develop saterlites towns to posh areas. Develop kitengela..ngong, matasia, kibera, kiserian etc. Hii ni u jinga tu This man is defending the law breakers.

Ndu is the star of this conversation, she asked difficult questions that were met with subtle arrogance and not very convincing answers. in a nut shell, this guy came here to say nothing.

😅How about South C?

You should ask Patrick if Karen, Muthaiga and Muthangari allow for such in their neighbourhoods.

@AAA-sx5ej

4 ай бұрын

Its happening already in muthaiga, and rest would follow.

Now you notice? It's been going on for 10 years. The reason is weak controls, and greed, over-burdening infrastructure: sewage, roads, water, electricity. Making life miserable for the many for the gratification of the few. As if people didn't know!

Mr Onalo seems to have an issue with "our lady". If he can listen to the question and then respond - she has very valid questions.

@marawildgroup3809

4 ай бұрын

His ego won’t let him allow the lady to ask him questions. Note his condescending tone when responding to her, and the way he responds to the gentlemen. He’s talking down on her trying to shut her while talking to the gents.

Patrick Analo is one smart guy and a great planner. His work is NOT easy as Nairobi ( Nairobbery) has cartels, gangs, and difficult people who flaut and break rules at will. Lets NOT pretend that we don't know Nairobi has always been held hostage by people who in most cases are politically connected and will always find a way out of courts. Former Governor Mike Sonko mentioned of the cartels.

@paulgathii6726

4 ай бұрын

If you hold public office and give a cartel excuse then you should resign asap and let those with balls and intelligence handle the so called cartels. Government should be the biggest cartel as far as I am concerned yet they keep bending over and endangering peoples lives.

kiasi seems govt ndio kusema

Status quo

Traffic, sewage,population ,parking spaces,side walks,green spaces,parks etc. Are these being taken into account? No no no. This man is not speaking the truth and is on the defensive

sad to have such kind of people in our government offices.

Patrick Analo is knowledgeable but lacks the honesty to admit failure by the County Government.

This guy said they are not giving permits for bore holes in Nairobi 😂😂😂. I can get one today and another 5 kesho. Like he said, Kenyans are just complaining but it is business as usual.

Another reason to worry as a patriotic Kenyan. Where are the genuinely qualified brains in the public / civil service? But then again, it's the time for another politrical grouping to "eat".....and provide excuse after another on very basic issues; because addressing them will negatively affect their feeding (punitive looting) spree.

There lies the problem. Patrick has very carefully responded to the questions by the host team in a sound professional manner. The host team is not technically willingly engaging in a technical debate. This is the problem.

I don't understand why CT and colleague are against building going up.The next genation will live in apartments on 30 th floor.

The guy does not understand what plans for a city of a magnitude of Nairobi are. Don't move with files just articulate real issues.

@nairobi804

4 ай бұрын

Pulling down single houses to put up 100 units with the same roads, Water and electricity services. The houses I kilimani are not affordable. Total nonsense

@abisaiamatalo2769

4 ай бұрын

@@nairobi804 the affordable housing is a National government project, why blame the county?

V there are buildings that go well above 20 Floors! Who permitted these? It's corruption as usual

Mr. Analo came with pre.made answers, city plans be damned. Its time to revisit Nairobi as a county. It was a bad idea. The borourgh idea is not new: New York, Chicago and LA are examples, and it works.

This is corruption of the highest level NKT this all men are insane and corrupt to the core

After the colonial left..the population invreased and could be seen. What did they do? You can plan from just sitting. Thid guy went to school but has nothing to offet interms of planning.

This are the goons in Nairobi...

Now i have seen a cartel

This guy is pathetic and an apologist... For we who where born and brought up in Nairobi we know we had systems that worked... These guys have done nothing.. what was set aside for schools, industrial areas, recreational facility's... Even the health centers worked.. what was set aside was grabbed. The Muzungu built houses for the working class in Eastlands... The African has done nothing for it's people

@abisaiamatalo2769

4 ай бұрын

Why blame this guy for the mistakes of his predecessors? Nairobi was messed just after independence.The poor planning or lack of planning in many places in Nairobi eventually culminated into a mess in the early and up to the late 90s. Its population increased, and planning was haphazard. It will take years to undo the damage. To see how Nairobi has improved/ changed since devolution, one needs to walk around Nairobi and compare it now and then. You need to give this guy time to do his work ( don't forget the stumbling block of cartels and the untouchables).

CARTEL

Hii maneno ya public participation sini crusade ama???😂😂😂😂 These days everything is public participation everywhere!!! It’s has become a banner for kilakitu. It is the litmus tests for everything!! Hata Mwenyekiti wa kifunguo ya choo kwa ploti needs public participation WAH!!!!!!

SpoceFM got their match today. People think that their is a magic bullet solution to planning issues. County should set up systems in which grievances are addressed promptly and approval processes become public participatory. Objective complaints and concerns that developers can’t mitigate should be documented and every developer when submitting proposals for development control, should attach such mitigations and frameworks on how it will be implemented There should be conditional clauses that allow suspension of permits of such development that won’t follow the rules

This guy doesn't want to listen to others cause he seems to sense that they will go after him. He is trying to defend a status quo that most don't agree with.

@dinahawouragai2701

4 ай бұрын

😂

Very arrogant he should resign from the public office!….we dont need humble and respectful people!..

Something tells me that this guy is a beneficiary of these corrupt dealings. He seems complicit.

These Central Government and County Goverment and the key cartel doyens and feel very entitled. Too much pompous talk with no actions, if there is any action, it is where they get a big cut

Call this guy again and open the lines for questions. If the plan was from 1938...what have they done to mitigate the current situation in thr entire of Nairobi.. Rezoning Kilimani, lavington, etc to highrise building is resulting to these cities bevoming slums. The eadtlands werr better in the colonial era upto late 70s. These guys they never plan anything and learn nothing...bure kabisa

Mwalimu wa Literature kuja hapa...somewhere you failed this your student!

Why would you tell people publicly as of they are your children.....ati listen to me again 😂

@profngurewamwachofi3243

4 ай бұрын

It's the belief that "You people don't know enough -- if only you let me explain you'd know better. So please just listen and agree with me -- are you what you need to hear before I even came here." It comes across as ARROGANCE.

This man sounds defeated.... ni kizungu mingi tu

Does his office have any real power? In who's interests does he perform his role? 😢

This gentleman is useless. His theory does not match the reality on the ground. He keeps dodging legitimate questions with theoretical nonsense. You cannot put up large buildings that are not supported by adequate infrastructure. Loading up a city with high end, high rise buildings that has the vast majority of its population in low income barely sustainable existence is simply silly. This guy has too much english with no substance in reality. Most of the high rise residential buildings in Nairobi are just hiding corruption money.

@Emgee101

4 ай бұрын

Indeed. The corruption angle has been overlooked in planning. How to solve this?

@paulgathii6726

4 ай бұрын

It baffles me when people elect clowns and then are surprised when the circus comes to town

You cannot say that you develop first and then later lay the infrastructure. Where then will you lay the infrastructure after the greedy developers have built even on the sewer lines? This guy is incorrigible.

more than 60 years after independence you still talking about colonialists not having a plan for city growth.

This guy is talking nonsense!

This guy Nalo is a good propagandits just book theory but can not visionalize the planning and its impact 30 yrs from today

The EGO of this guy🤥🤔

Do not invite this guy to your studios again.

This guy is arrogant

@jacquilinekurgat9017

4 ай бұрын

Properly