Pat Summitt's beef with Geno Auriemma broke basketball's best rivalry
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These two coaches started off as friendly acquaintances, but sometimes a rivalry is just so fierce that a friendship falls apart ... and then so does the rivalry.
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Written and produced by Seth Rosenthal
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I love those seconds of mystery before you hear who’s narrating the episode
@sh00ner
Ай бұрын
Make or break moment.
@harper-leightonscott4566
Ай бұрын
Clara and Seth should have swapped the last two videos.
@therealspikeflee
Ай бұрын
@@harper-leightonscott4566I said the same thing
@samortmann5003
Ай бұрын
@harper-leightonscott4566 Pretty sure Clara's a UMD alumn, so it makes sense she'd do the video about her Alma mater
@paddle_my_mad_laddle
Ай бұрын
It's so good I want a rewinder on those beautiful 3 seconds
So glad to hear they made things right before the end.
@samortmann5003
Ай бұрын
Yeah, if unresolved, that's the kind of thing that can haunt you for the rest of your life
She could have held on to the game, by herself, but she opened it up to play UConn, because she knew it would make the game better. What a legend 😢
@thebigwagyu
Ай бұрын
Pat never dodged competition, she sought it out. She knew the only way to have the best team was to make them play the best teams.
@NastyNomad15
Ай бұрын
@@thebigwagyuI wish I knew more about her before this video. I had only ever heard her name in talks before. She seems like a total badass
@colbypatterson8273
Ай бұрын
Lmao what a dumb thing to say. She's the one that ENDED the game between them bc she was salty Maya Moore went to uconn
@mnm1273
Ай бұрын
She was the one who cancelled the match.
@eac1235
Ай бұрын
@@colbypatterson8273Because of Genos shady recruitment dealings.
Pat Summitt was such a badass that she was offered on at least two occasions to coach the men’s team.
@JoshuaKimbrough
Ай бұрын
Pat is a legend but the boys would never accept her
@markjackson6431
Ай бұрын
@@JoshuaKimbrough really because on at least one occasion she ran a men’s practice. any true basketball player respected her. take your misogynistic attitude and opinion elsewhere. you should do your research….the male players respected her. you’re a clown.
@thebigwagyu
Ай бұрын
@@JoshuaKimbroughyou don’t know Pat and how much everyone who supports Tennessee loves her to this day. She didn’t accept the men’s job because it would be a step down, not a step up.
@mimosajd
Ай бұрын
@@JoshuaKimbroughProof: you’re insecure
@markjackson6431
Ай бұрын
@@JoshuaKimbrough i can by your misogynistic attitude and opinion that you’re an incel. typical
UConn fan over 40 years and have tremendous respect for Coach Summitt and what she did for the game. I was at a UConn NCAA game in Denver and Coach Summitt was introduced after she announced her bout with Alzheimer's. She brought the house down just with her appearance. Respect is earned!!!
@warstars8382
Ай бұрын
i remember the FF before she passed she showed up during practice and Geno stopped everything he was doing to rush over there to talk to her. RIP Pat.
oh man I wish this was video was longer, if only to keep Pat around. Gone but not forgotten, RIP Pat.
@shandongunter7075
Ай бұрын
Amazing
mom wake up, fresh beef dropped
@6tiple6ix6afia
Ай бұрын
Found another validation hungry basement dweller
Put some respect on my coach's name R.I.P. Pat 🙏🏾
@withalittlehelpfrom3
Ай бұрын
Go Lady Vols!!
@user-sd4jt4sw9x
Ай бұрын
Geno was telling recruits/parents that Pat and Holly were sleeping with players and turning them into lesbians. Maybe that was true, maybe it wasn’t. But Pat’s two closest disciples to get their own gigs wound up losing those jobs because they were sleeping with players (Mickie Demoss, Tyler Summit). Maybe that’s a coincidence, but it seems like something that must have been normal to them.
@seldengriffen9770
Ай бұрын
UConn fan here, Pat is the greatest of all time. Trailblazer like no other in the women’s game
@thepubknight6144
Ай бұрын
Rip Goat Ms Summit
Man Pat is missed in the game 🧡🧡🧡
Never been this early to a Beef History video. It’s like when you take the meat off the grill at the perfect time.
@Mighty_Atheismo
Ай бұрын
....what kind of meat?
@eman22017
Ай бұрын
@@Mighty_Atheismo beef. Duh.
@Mighty_Atheismo
Ай бұрын
@@eman22017 excellent
@johnprager662
Ай бұрын
@@Mighty_Atheismo Lamb
@joshlyons1747
Ай бұрын
Ayooo😂
The Moore recruitment was the last straw for Summitt. She was stunned by the list of demands Moore's mother brought to her, demands that were very much against the recruiting rules, and was even more stunned when UConn seemingly met those demands. That's what Summitt meant by "you and I both know we aren't playing by the same rules."
@jerrykibbe6363
Ай бұрын
Curious what’s Tennessee’s grad. rate?
@user-vq8fq1ty7c
Ай бұрын
@@jerrykibbe6363 Nice attempt at a redirect. Oh, no, wait, I'm kidding, it wasn't.
@marks665
Ай бұрын
@@user-vq8fq1ty7c I'm curious, what was on this list of demands? Is there any proof a list even existed? Any proof UConn met the demands of this alleged list? It sounds like sour grapes to me. Tennessee fans can't believe that a recruit had the audacity to choose another school, so they create a story of that recruit being bought off, rather than admit that their program isn't the end-all, be-all of WCBB.
@joshladd6048
Ай бұрын
It’s really funny having an SEC school accuse others about recruiting violations
@user-vq8fq1ty7c
Ай бұрын
Oh, yes, because Pat Summitt was notorious for having no integrity and committing recruiting violations.
We need a Pat summit movie
@MsRotorwings
Ай бұрын
Agreed. But instead Netflix produced a movie about the narcissist Diane Nyad.
@keenannorris3309
Ай бұрын
I agree, but the American public is too bigoted for that to go down.
@mtadams2009
Ай бұрын
Lots of us would surly watch it. She is thought of highly here in UConn country. She is a legend.
Summit's statue across from Thompson-Bowling Arena is really cool. GBO
I am a UConn fan through and through and adore Auriemma, but I also have so much respect for Pat Summitt as a coach and as a person. Despite how demanding and disciplined she was, she was never afraid to be herself; I remember when Bruce Pearl was in the stands as a shirtless fan during a Lady Vols game, and Summitt showed her appreciation by dressing up like a cheerleader and singing "Rocky Top" at the a future men's game, which blew my mind given her cold sideline demeanor. Her presence made all of college basketball better and is still sorely missed.
Pat Head Summitt is my favorite coach in any sport at any level. And i miss her dearly 💙🧡
An important point in this is that Geno has a fundamental three point checklist in recruiting players: 1. Be an excellent player. 2. Be a committed team player. 3. No interference by her family. Comparing the two is interesting, but their successes flowed from their focus on excellence.
@kimmeyson4u
Ай бұрын
Wrong. Charde Houston is proof this wasn't/ isn't true.
I got into the women's game off of this rivalry in 95. Was a UConn fan on the men's side, became a fan on the Women's side. Still a fan to this day.
@BallCDO
Ай бұрын
17 natties for y'all now
@MsRotorwings
Ай бұрын
Me too. I’ve been following since 95 as well. Stanford fan. But now I just appreciate good basketball, not just loyal to one team. When I was a Stanford fan I almost always ended up frustrated because they’d end up losing. Now I just enjoy the game of basketball. This year, couldn’t help but get behind IOWA. Iowa lost not because South Carolina was a better team. Nope. They had a freak of nature 6’7” player who couldn’t even make a high school JV team if she was below 6’. 😢
R.I.P. to the GOAT female coach and one of the best coaches of all time, Pat Summitt!
As someone who grew up in CT at this time and remember how hardcore the state was for the Lady Huskies, Pat Summitt was absolutely every bit our equal. Those UConn-Lady Vols games were terrifying because of how good of a coach she was
It's pretty special how no matter how intense and personal a competitive rivalry can get, the mutual respect can always resurface
I always loved that, for a time, the regular season series was a home and home series. They were more familiar with each other than some of their conference opponents during that stretch and it was EPIC!
@rovingwarrior3710
Ай бұрын
It might have been the most intense sports rivalry ever.
It feels like Geno Auriemma never got rid of that chip on his shoulder. The man still occasionally talks like he's coaching an up-and-comer that gets no respect.
@griffinlahre1928
Ай бұрын
And that's why UConn WBB remains an elite program to this day
@SweetSirenia
Ай бұрын
He's an immigrant kid who took a couple years to learn the language here, got bullied the whole time, and to this day still gets taunted over his birth name (Luigi) by opposing teams. That chip NEVER goes away, no matter which country you come from or how well you do later in life.
@SwannyTheMike
Ай бұрын
@@SweetSireniaSo was my grandma, except she never got to be seen as a "real" American despite all her efforts. You'll have to forgive me if I find it hard to weep for the multi-millionaire, national championsh-winning coach with zero trace of an Italian accent whose worst trial in decades has been getting called by his birth name by opposing fans.
@SweetSirenia
Ай бұрын
@@SwannyTheMike I can't say that I feel "sorry" for him and his successes, either -- but I can take a moment to understand how his experiences helped shaped the personality we see today.
@SwannyTheMike
Ай бұрын
@@SweetSirenia How do I put this properly? I can understand how that could affect who he is today. However, I find it hard to respect him beyond his coaching record because of people in my life who have had similar experiences and risen above them without having had half the good fortune Geno has had in his life. Does that make sense or am I talking out of my ass?
This was a fun video. RIP Pat, it’s heartbreaking that she had early onset dementia. one of the great pioneers of women’s sports
Rest in peace Pat. Your impact on the game will forever live on
I love women’s basketball beef. You have to care so much more for an under represented sport that deserves more attention it drives you insane.
@dizent2885
Ай бұрын
Less an underrepresented sport,( it’s gets pushed all the time in ads) and more the sport that constantly scores own goals. See the Caitlyn Clark situation if you need an example.
Tenn, UConn, LA Tech, Texas Tech, Stanford, Virginia, SW Mizzou St, man the late 80s to 2009 was insane for woman’s basketball!
@jeromeariganello9874
Ай бұрын
And....that was it. 2 or 3 great teams and a bunch of bad, bad, bad teams
@mongoslade277
Ай бұрын
Virginia with their 4 all americans. La Tech with Leon Barmore. Texas Tech with Swoopes & 47 points in the title game. Stanford was the option out west for girls that didnt wanna go East or South
@mongoslade277
Ай бұрын
Jackie Stiles taking SW Missouri St to the Final Four by herself. USC in early 80s also
@JK-gu3tl
Ай бұрын
Everbody forgets about Auburn.
@warstars8382
Ай бұрын
@@JK-gu3tlwas it 2 or 3 straight title games?
Pat will always be the GOAT, not just in women’s basketball, but one of the greatest basketball minds to ever walk this planet. The world is a better place because of her.
I’ve been waiting for this episode since this series began
Fantastic video, and I find it funny that in the video at 9:00 with Pat talking, ‘I Hate Everything About You’ by Three Days Grace is playing in the background. Sounds like it’s the bridge after the first chorus.
@luisguillermojg
Ай бұрын
Good catch.
Wonderful video!! Both are great coaches. I was a UConn fan during the early 00’s, but recently visited the UT campus and Women’s HOF. Everyone was so welcoming and talked to me about Pat. One of the ladies knew her and told me story after story. I left feeling like I knew and lost her as a personal friend. I still say, GO UCONN HUSKIES!!! but am #TeamPat when it comes to this beef.
This is truly one of the best channels on KZread. Your storytelling is second to none. What an amazing, amazing video. Thank you so much for making KZread a better place.
Pat is such a legend we were taught her definite dozen coaching model for one of my classes in college! This women deserves to be remembered as one of Basketball’s greatest coaches especially since her impact will be felt for years to come in future generations!
As a huge Pat Summitt fan, I thoroughly enjoyed this piece. Thank you for putting it together. Never forget the 3 Meeks, Kelly Jolly (Harper), Kristen Clement... that 95-1999 group was phenomenal for the Lady Vols.
Growing Up In Knoxville I got to meet Pat many times she even paid a home visit to my aunt who was 3 star recruit Back in 2009 Such a sweet lady But on that court it’s different monster Truly One Of The Greats🔥
Great video! Love a beef that gets cleared up at the end.
This was a really interesting beef history! Another great video!!!
Part of me wonders if the “odd behaviour” Coach Summitt displayed were the beginning stages of her dementia. I know from extensive experience that even before the worst of it appears, out of character choices start cropping up. Friendships that were vital are suddenly over because of a small slight. Moods shift faster than the speed of light. Habits that were engrained for decades change drastically. I hope as we learn more about dementia and Alzheimer’s that we can start to see these signs in more tangible ways. That way, we can help our loved ones that are struggling with it. Most of all: Rest in power, Pat and kudos to Geno for doing his all at the end to restore their friendship. ❤️
@andysinthegarden
Ай бұрын
I also always wondered if her early stages of dementia effected her decision to end the series.
@volcrazy89
Ай бұрын
Maya's mother gave Pat a list of demands that Geno was willing to give. She went from living in the projects to living in a fancy house in a gated community. You do the math. It went far beyond the ESPN tour. BTW, Pat had just won her 7th NC (and would win her 8th and final the next season) and wasn't exhibiting signs of dementia at that point.
@marks665
Ай бұрын
@@volcrazy89 If Geno had bought Moore a fancy house like you insinuate, why didn't Pat include that in the complaint she made to the SEC? Why didn't she include that "list of demands" that Geno gave? You do the math. Also, funny enough, I actually tried looking into that claim, and guess what? I found comments from YOU on a Tennessee fan board from 10 years ago talking about a rented condo (VolNation 10/30/15). Now that's turned into a "fancy house in a gated community?" Kinda brings your claims into question if you can't even decide what you want your claim to actually be.
@jakefromstatefarm33
Ай бұрын
@@marks665there’s ways to hide it, but obviously if Pat knew that he had bought them a house she would’ve made it known. Let’s be real though, plenty of athletes received improper benefits before NIL. Not to say it happened, but let’s not pretend it’s impossible.
One of the best episodes ever. Great job
Don't know the truth of this, but I had heard that Pat thought that Geno had had Diana Taurasi and Sue Bird helping with recruiting Maya Moore, driving her around and such, and she was mad about that and thought it was in violation, but they couldn't have done it because they had both been playing overseas when the alleged incident happened.
I'd always heard the Maya Moore recruiting was what broke the camel's back. Its a damn shame, I hated Tennessee, growing up a local UConn fan
@lisao9486
Ай бұрын
Yes I think that Geno telling Maya Moores mother that Pat Summitt was a lesbian who would make improper advances to her daughter was that last straw.
@mongoslade277
Ай бұрын
Geno also had ESPN give Maya Moore a tour of their campus in Bristol, Connecticut. In those days before it became a clown show & a tv tabloid, ESPN was the worldwide leader. Shortly thereafter she chose Uconn. Tennessee had her. So yes indirectly ESPN helped Uconn get Maya Moore
@jerrykibbe6363
Ай бұрын
@@lisao9486oh please.
@WSmith-lp8jd
Ай бұрын
@@lisao9486 ….but she was a lesbian and there is nothing wrong with that. I do not believe Geno said Pat would make advances. He’s better than that…..
@chanin12
Ай бұрын
@@WSmith-lp8jdshe wasn't a lesbian!
13:03 is like hearing it all over again. There will never be another Pat. The story here is good, but what's missing is that in between the championships, Pat Summitt went to the final four 18 times before being forced to retire. EIGHTEEN. She wasn't just winning the championship, she was competing almost EVERY YEAR.
Awesomely made. You guys do it again!
Geno is a legend, but Pat IS the pinnacle of not just Womens basketball, but College sports in general.
@sammysabo6777
Ай бұрын
I’m sorry but John Wooden is above her and Geno is the GOAT of the women’s game. John getting 10 in 11 years tops everyone tho
@FuShengAlex
Ай бұрын
@@sammysabo6777 That Sam Gilbert effect
0:34 connection to the Jon Bois-verse
@loganphillips5935
Ай бұрын
Pretty good catch there
@THEjoelivingstone
Ай бұрын
The Bois-verse, where people go to euthanize themselves via statistical boredom.
@JoshGilmorefoo
Ай бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one that caught that.
Love seeing UT get some light shed on our programs 🙌🏻
SO glad we're FINALLY getting to this one!
Well done! Thank you!
Best beef y’all have covered! Great video
Thank you for this episode
@haydenlester8866
Ай бұрын
I love to see women’s basketball coverage
Absolutely love to see that new fans are seeing some of the great rivalries in women’s hoops that they’ve missed out on over the years. It’s always been entertaining as hell, great to have more eyes on it.
Great work. Need more women’s basketball content like this. So many great stories to tell that go unnoticed.
I grew up watching these two teams play. It was incredible.
Great job!
Very classy video. Well done
Pat summitt was my hero I loved her so much and one of the reasons I wanted my niece to go be a lady vol
Pat summit basically invented womens college basketball. A total legend
Everyone loves a happy ending. Great piece, as usual Seth.
Great memories growing up in 90s!
This is a particularly good one, SB.
Two legends of the game!
I'm glad their beef got resolved before she passed. This is pure speculation, but I think that if you asked Geno if he regretted any of his actions during the heat of that rivalry, that he would say yes.
The quote, "As Iron sharpens iron so one person sharpens another." Geno vs Pat is an example of this quote.
My dad did sports information stuff for UNC 's women's basketball in the 90s. Nothing but great things to say about Summitt, nothing but bad about Auriemma.
As a Connecticut resident I am fortunate enough to have been able to witness the rise of both the UConn women's and mens college basketball teams into elite programs. The rivalry with Summit always made the Huskies a better team even in losses because the Vols were the high water mark for that era. There has never been a rivalry that great in women's college basketball and idk if there ever will be. Respect due and RIP to Summit,she has earned her flowers and then some.
Why havent you guys made Aaron Rodgers VS Mike McCarthy BEEF?? I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR 5 YEARS. LISTEN TO YOUR FANS. MAKE IT
Nicely done.
Idgaf what anyone says Pat would’ve been an incredible head coach in the nba
Me and my best friend at boarding school started to hate each other when we got locked down during COVID for this exact reason, familiarity breeds contempt.
0:29 Casually dropping Pretty Good Legend Lonnie Smith. I see you there Secret Base
19 combined titles. 11 for Geno, 8 for Pat. Absolute goats. Sucks that they had beef but it made the rivalry better. As a UConn fan and PA native I love Geno (Norristown represent) but Pat is an ABSOLUTE LEGEND. R.I.P. (also that Pat vs Genos cheesteak bar was wild but unpopular opinion: Pat’s is better. Jim’s and Dalessandro’s clear both)
Very well done
2 amazing coaches!
Die hard UCONN fan till this day all because of Tenn/UCONN. Greatest rivalry in wbb. I think Geno and Pat are 1a/1b for goat in wbb. Didn’t like UT but respected the hell out of that program. Would have never thought I’d be defending UT online whenever ppl crap on their legacy.
She was the GREATEST to EVER do it! I had the pleasure of being at a motivational speech given by her and got to speak with her briefly. I was so star struck but she was such a beautiful, down to earth person❤️❤️
Great video
Great video.
Thanks!
Excellent background music, and reporting 😊
Pat was a GOAT. God bless her soul. If she was still alive this would be even bigger. Geno is now going on crazy the same way against Dawn Stanley.
Love this rivalry as a kid. RIP Pat Pat
They both are legends of college basketball. They both built great programs.
forever a legend. love Coach Summit.
It’s funny that people complain about no one caring about women’s basketball, but Pat Summitt had the entire state of Tennessee watching their games. I met her as a kid, and I’ll never forget it. RIP Pat!
@jerrykibbe6363
Ай бұрын
I can say the same about Ct. Sports media loved ignoring Womens BB
@jakefromstatefarm33
Ай бұрын
@@jerrykibbe6363 the sports media hates us, and I wish they ignored us more! None of us cared about women’s basketball until she came to town. She never complained about us not caring; she just kept winning until we cared.
This beef defined my childhood. Growing up in CT, my family lived and died on those games. My sister and I fought over who had to sleep on camping trips with the Tennessee orange pillow and got a huge kick out of wearing our UConn championship tshirts to Dollywood. One time, we got chosen to stand in the tunnel before a WNBA game and give players high fives as they came out, and i took my hand away when the TN players came by. But all respect to the legendary coach Pat, gone way too soon.
The game wasn't big enough for both of them. This has happened many times in many sports, and in life itself. When the fighting is finally over, when there's no need to beat each other anymore, the great rivals make their peace.
Pat couldn't stand getting beat by UCon. Pat's teams won for years with her press. Athletic, black girls pressured turnovers into quick scores. Through the years, when the rest of the teams caught up, she had no halfcourt offense. Eventually, she hired someone to teach a halfcourt offense and became competitive again.
This explains why Candace and Geno don’t get along 😂
@gerryfisher5259
Ай бұрын
Ummm...Candace's style of play and approach to the game is...errr...not in line with Geno's philosophy. 'nuff said. Kara Lawson and Tamkia Catchings, on the other hand? Geno's a big fan.
@BoxOfOranges84
Ай бұрын
@gerryfisher5259 can you explain?
The more I learn about this, the less respect I have for UCONN. This ALSO explains why Gino kept Candace Parker off of the Olympic team. It’s giving jealous & narcissistic
@victorlopez2143
Ай бұрын
Wrong - Geno doesn't pick the players as a coach- get your facts straight..Coach has no input on who is selected by the committee.
@Biggdoom344
Ай бұрын
@@victorlopez2143not true. The Olympics committee invites the players. The coach selects them. Her omission was on little Geno 😂
I love UConn but I have nothing but the utmost respect for Pat Summit. She is a legend and she is surely missed. The game has never been the same. RIP
What's the name of the Voilin song in the background?! My Shazam sucks
0:29 that bottom headline looks pretty good. Someone should make a video about that.
As much as this is one of the juicier beefs, you can tell that it was all for show. As soon as something 'real' happened, it was gone and total support was offered!
Rewinder: 2006 Orange Bowl 3OTs Beef History: Lindros vs Flyers Organization Overlap: Greatest College Football Coach (Saban) and the Greatest NFL Coach (Belichick) coaching in the same division Beef History: Michael Jordan and Isiah Thomas Beef History: Phil Jackson and Pat Riley Untitled: Reggie Miller Untitled: Tracy McGrady Untitled: Ken Griffey Junior Untitled: Carl Yastrzemski Untitled: Ted Williams Untitled: Jim Kelly Collapse: Early 90s Bills Prism: Steph Curry and all those mid major players Rewinder: The Catch By Willie Rewinder: Wide Right I, Wide Right II Rewinder: Hank Aaron and Barry Bonds breaking the respective HR record(s) Untitled: Don Nelson
RIP TO PAT
This dude easily the best narrator he never misses
Well done
Beef beyond beef. That was wonderful to watch, Do one on Reggie and Cheryl Miller. That was something,
Can you do Tony LaRussa vs Ozzie Smith beef always wanted to know about it as a Cards fan
I knew how the beef would end and it was still sad to hear
It would be cool if you dug into the UConn vs UConn rivalry between Jim Calhoun and Geno Auriemma!