The "You didn't tell us she was 14" was actually genius. It forced him to actually say the number 16 out loud, lest he looked even worse.

@daniellelopez3342

2 жыл бұрын

@@puregameplay7916 which is SO disgusting. We need reform.

@benner1320

2 жыл бұрын

@@puregameplay7916 That is correct, but the law aside, many consider it unethical if the age gap is so large. It would at the very least be considered very weird and creepy, especially from a pastor. I would also make the argument that he was an authority figure to the girl, which would make it illegal.

@zay8899

2 жыл бұрын

@@puregameplay7916 which is fucking lunacy

@TezalTube

2 жыл бұрын

@@daniellelopez3342 He literally lied.

@broccolisoub9888

2 жыл бұрын

@@puregameplay7916 we found him guys....we found the pedo, regardless of whether or not she was of legal age she was not consenting...plus 16 is literally still a child, even if it is legal, trying to defend that shit is kinda telling

this man should be in jail. imagine being the victim and telling your story and there goes the whole crowd hugging your fucking abuser that's a fucking slap on the face.

@kevinoneill7837

2 жыл бұрын

sadly abusers and rapists often get off very easy

@Jankz23

2 жыл бұрын

I mean then call the cops

@postbloom9767

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jankz23 pretty sure shes taking him to court

@Jankz23

2 жыл бұрын

@@postbloom9767 doubt it

@postbloom9767

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jankz23 he was given the death penalty

"You didn't tell them she was 14 years old!" "No, she was 16." The woman recording is legitimately a genius for that, got that perfect confession.

@shane_kai1983

5 ай бұрын

Dude pulled an “achually”

@SnootDog

5 ай бұрын

Timestamp?

@eleanort.

5 ай бұрын

@@SnootDog 7:28

@Hey_Its_Dom2818

5 ай бұрын

the guy is a POS but he could have said "she was not 14" and left it there

@Arcsin27

4 ай бұрын

i just scrolled down to say that! i choose to believe she weaponized the concept outlined in a screenshot i saw once: the best way to get accurate information is to say something incorrect and wait for people to correct you

He calls it "adultery" but she wasnt even an adult 💀

@scazab6408

13 күн бұрын

church in a nutshell

@normified

8 күн бұрын

childery

@WaaWaainnitbruv

3 күн бұрын

Infantery

"SHE WAS FOURTEEN" "No, she was sixteen" - yeah, you showed her, bud.

@jarotheboar8398

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's like saying I burned down the bush, not the house Just because I did something less messed up, doesn't excuse the bad thing

@sweatyslapfight7900

2 жыл бұрын

"no, no, no. I didn't kill 4 people, it was 3. So you have to let me go"

@GnarlyTrashFire

2 жыл бұрын

He said that like it was going to make something better.

@Xighor

2 жыл бұрын

@@super_seaton9016 You've done your research, I wonder why.. It doesn't make it right that Indiania lawmakers are a bunch of Pedophiles so they made it so a 40yr old man can rape a 16yr old girl Can't do porn or drink a beer but you can apparently can have "sex" with a pastor more than twice your age, someone abusing their position of power

@fillatron8795

2 жыл бұрын

there is a somewhat a big difference tbh.....in some states and countries 16 is legal but 14 wouldnt be.

The victim is the only one who is allowed to “forgive him”, not this fucking crowd that had nothing to do with it.

@alexanderleonardi3625

2 жыл бұрын

i imagine forgiving him would just lead to him doing it to her again

@Kudeshka

2 жыл бұрын

Only God can and I assume word got out that's why he confessed to it

@Ironica82

2 жыл бұрын

When the leader falls, it affects all the followers. Leaders are meant to follow a high standard to set an example to the followers on how to live. Thus, when he failed that high standard, it does affect everyone else.

@alexrider6646

2 жыл бұрын

Facts

@johnhallow

2 жыл бұрын

I get where you're coming from but that's not how it works in this case

As a Christian, you couldn't be any more spot on about the "worshipping pastors more than Jesus" part. It's kinda sad.

@thesinfulyogini2073

2 ай бұрын

I can’t deal with it!

@GodsGoofiest

Ай бұрын

i hurts to see people infect our churches

@valeriekatampoi216

Ай бұрын

It's even worse in some countries here in Africa. The false pastor uses the ToUch nOT My anOiNtED oNe, Do mY pRopHeTS nO HarM bible verse to intimidate anyone that tries to question them. It sucks. There's the honor that, biblically speaking, pastors should be given. But then there's this. Complete manipulation

@luisr0987

Ай бұрын

Im guessing the worshipping is due to the trust they put on the pastors.

@bagbunny

Ай бұрын

It's the pastors, it's the ones that want to go up and testify the most. I was called to Christ about twenty years ago, but I also started working at the county jail. The number of church folk I saw come in and out of there was horrible, the things they were doing showed that they were not following what they preached. I believe now that was a test of my conviction and I failed. I denied myself a relationship with God because of what I saw others doing, the same ones that prayed with me and laid their hands on my head. I feel that calling again and pray that my character is strong enough this time, whatever test may come.

Him saying “I committed adultery” is like saying “Officer I was only 5ks over the speed limit” when you rear ended a family of 4

@feraltaco4783

Ай бұрын

And the family is scarred for life.

@darkflux

14 күн бұрын

heh..."rear-ended".

@Natevan_25

13 күн бұрын

@@darkfluxnahhhhh

@darkflux

9 күн бұрын

@@Natevan_25 you say that, but...BUTT! hahahaha! 🤣🤣🤣

@Natevan_25

9 күн бұрын

@@darkflux wow

Woman: You didn't tell us she was 14! Pastor: Um, no no no no, she was 16. Was he expecting: "Oh understandable. have a nice day."

@MrUssy101

2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys it’s critical: Today we are taking yet another clip from my live stream watching a KZread video that someone else made and getting millions view for very little I add with my boring and dry tired voice. Also for the comedic effect I will stretch the image on the KZread thumbnail for the billionth time. Please laugh !!!

@forgivezharion6989

2 жыл бұрын

Ratio + yb better + nobody cares + this you 🤓🤓👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻👶🏽

@minerpig64

2 жыл бұрын

@ahhh the girl was with him for 9 years. That's 16 to 25. She isn't a victim lol

@S1D3W1ND3R015

2 жыл бұрын

If you watch enough Chris Hansen or other pedophiles catchers. They all say that. As if it's any better. Same with lying about their age and dropping 10 years off from like 45 to 35. As if it's better. This guy is a pedo.

@mrtoast244

2 жыл бұрын

@ahhh you have 3 videos Edit: I love Terraria though

That woman is so insanely brave. Not only to speak out in front of her abuser but in front of all of his supporters.

@BJGvideos

2 жыл бұрын

She's got him on video now to take him to court too.

@renegadepyro726

2 жыл бұрын

3 bot comments on your one comment. These bots are crazy

@localoni4305

2 жыл бұрын

@@devenmaldonado8362 Dude is actually out here trying fan flames, don't mind his dumbass.

@pickledbuns

2 жыл бұрын

@@renegadepyro726 ikr and the bait comments. wild

@shlawgb0b

2 жыл бұрын

@Savetion Xi 😈 thats so fucking disgusting to say. ik ur whole personality is being a troll, but thats low bruh

If the victim doesnt forgive him then no one should.

@kyoudaim603

7 ай бұрын

not even the Lord would forgive him, Matthew 18:6 😂

@shelby5809

4 ай бұрын

I mean... No? even if the victim did we'd still be shitting on him. Like farming is crazy

@iggy9226

3 ай бұрын

@@kyoudaim603Matthew 6:15

@Thepathforyou

3 ай бұрын

@@kyoudaim603 23 So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24 leave your gift there before the altar and go. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. (this is also in mathew I believe)

@morgan_____4290

3 ай бұрын

@@shelby5809lol exactly

Name a more iconic duo than pastors and sex scandals

@shelby5809

4 ай бұрын

corn on the cob

@jamesrumer7935

3 ай бұрын

@@shelby5809 true

@SwaggyDawggy

3 ай бұрын

Pringles can and latex glove 🔥🔥🔥

@johnsuarez1404

3 ай бұрын

@@SwaggyDawggy WHAT

@nyabreezy4038

3 ай бұрын

@@SwaggyDawggyI’d be better than that

Imagine calling child rape "adultery" just to minimize it to only later be called out by that very brave victim the next minute. wow.

@hyperv1016

2 жыл бұрын

Far Cry 5 in a nutshell

@schnuffelpuff3923

2 жыл бұрын

Im suprised that nobody stood up while he talked and called him a fkn childf*cker.

@srgetem

2 жыл бұрын

@@hyperv1016 ?

@hyperv1016

2 жыл бұрын

@@srgetem Yes? Like, what do you mean what? I literally just said Fc5. Are you illiterate?

@cocobean3996

2 жыл бұрын

@@srgetem poopoo

Imagine being sexually assaulted as a teenager multiple times by a pastor and then watch him admit it and be forgiven because he is a pastor

@prada3857

2 жыл бұрын

and then watching ppl go hug him and comfort him while ur sitting there crying after telling everyone how he raped you. that is some sicko shit.

@robot4268

2 жыл бұрын

@Savetion Xi 😈 you do realize that nobody loves you, right

@brandoncook6190

2 жыл бұрын

I am the God of earthworm's and homeless people.

@Xbitxx

2 жыл бұрын

was it sexual assault?

@spiritbx1337

2 жыл бұрын

This your brain on ideologies.

Imagine how heartbreaking it must have been for that poor woman to see people from her congregation HUG the predator who sexually abused her, minutes after she mustered the courage to talk publicly about it. And then people wonder why victims don’t speak up smh

@louloulooo66

8 күн бұрын

yes omg. I was literally like ???? when they started hugging him, like it’s literally his fault.

Forgiveness wasn’t theirs to give.

@nottzo

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. It's kind of like what they do in confession. "God I have sinned, I hurt someone, can YOU forgive me?" Like?.? That's extremely toxic. They're asking god to forgive them when they should do that to who they actually hurt.

@iggy9226

3 ай бұрын

@@nottzoyou’re sinning against God and His child. When He did this He hurt GODS child, One whom He loves so very much. And He obviously cares for her soul so in that the pastor has also sinned against God. By hurting His child, and it pains God for His child to hurt.

@berrilium8916

3 ай бұрын

@@iggy9226let’s pretend I agree, bare minimum he should be seeking forgiveness from both

@nottzo

3 ай бұрын

@@iggy9226 nnnah. the person who was directly involved should be apologized to. i wouldn’t forgive anyone if they hurt me and decided to apologize to their god instead of me. Its selfish

@Crazed-Rat

Ай бұрын

@@nottzo i agree, its like just saying some magic word and thinking you will be able to move on in life scott-free. Deep down people like that probably dont even belive in god, they just use him to get rid of their own sense of guilt so they can therefore do whatever they want.

You're missing the huge part.... he didn't go there to confess.... SHE WENT THERE TO EXPOSE HIM, and he must of seen her in the crowd so he decided to reveal his interpretation of what happened before she could out him. if she didnt have the courage to go, this would have never happened. Brave girl.

@noremac7216

Жыл бұрын

Yup he wasn't confessing he was doing damage control

@Ivan-M

Жыл бұрын

Make me remember to Ellie of The Last Of Us

@JCTBomb

Жыл бұрын

Oh my God. You’re fucking right. His tone of voice was not repentant, it was declaratory. It was like saying what he ate from breakfast. He didn’t care. You’re so fucking right. Underrated comment. He kept defending himself and correcting the people in the audience. If he really was sorry he wouldn’t have been able to stand on that stage or look the members of the crowd in the eyes. He probably would have resigned weeks prior if he actually had been convicted of his crime. But no. He didn’t care. He was anxious he’d be ratted out like you said. This makes me so sick to my stomach, having grown up in church this kind of thing could have happened and I wouldn’t have known what to have done as a kid. This makes me so sick how twisted they use the scripture. It makes me sick to my stomach to see how they disregard justice just to save face and appear godly. Using “forgiveness” as a means to sweep it under the rug and dismiss the whole thing of responsibly for his crimes. 100% fucking pure evil. God has a special place in hell for this guy. That’s biblically endorsed too. Just read Matthew 23. Jesus literally would be disgusted and condemn these kinds of people. Half of Jesus’ ministry was **against** the so called “Pastors” of his day and age, the Pharisees and Sadducees. He literally warns people to “do what they teach you but not what they do” because he wanted to make a distinction between actually following the law and acting unjustly and lawlessly as the hypocritical teachers would do. If Jesus was around today I bet he would fucking disown Christianity. 100% These fucking hypocrites defend their faith more then they do their fellow man. Disgusting what people will do when you dangle eternal life on a string in front of them.

@Blood_Boltz

Жыл бұрын

Okay, that explains A LOT to me. I will take down my comment of "why was this lady, AND her husband still going to the same church, with the SAME preacher who repeatedly raped her as a child?" Thanks for the clarification.

@goobernator50k21

Жыл бұрын

@@JCTBomb I didn’t read all of this but understanding the gist, It truly is horrible that stuff like this happens, we can’t let it get to us to much though. God deals with it all in the end of it and he’ll get his due-diligence in the end.

as someone who is a christian, this is so messed up. this is actually disgusting.

@Hugs_is_where_its_at

3 ай бұрын

As a Christian as well, I 100% back up your opinion.. this is gross

@CowboyCaleb64

2 ай бұрын

as a Christian i also agree this man needs prison time

@valeriekatampoi216

Ай бұрын

Everything from the abuse to how they handle it is so sad and outrageous

@0n_a_plain.

11 күн бұрын

I’m also a Christian, Charlie did a really good job explaining this and adding good points, even though he’s not religious. It’s disgusting honestly!

hell is too kind for people like this pastor

@CSWdenji69

6 ай бұрын

Cry

@koalaplays8855

4 ай бұрын

Yet atheists go there automatically 🫤. Such a sadistic religion.

@user-lo9sx3vq3e

4 ай бұрын

@@CSWdenji69you a pedo too?

@katrinaaverage-potato5828

4 ай бұрын

@@CSWdenji69you’re not good at baiting

@AW-xc1xc

3 ай бұрын

@@CSWdenji69Here three months later just to laugh at your bait attempt

fun fact: according to biblical law, if a pastor commits adultery he is no longer allowed to be a pastor

@Taylor_mamaof2

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. My grandpa was an elder at his church and was kicked out for leaving his wife for an old flame. Married his old flame. Southern Baptist btw.

@arlynnecumberbatch1056

2 жыл бұрын

cant believe they made them have no bitches 😭 thats amazing

@lalotime

2 жыл бұрын

That's catholic, or some other church that functions like catholics. In most churches, if you committed adultery but repented, you can still be a pastor. As long as it doesn't effect the church in a negative way. However churches like the Catholic Church, have all these rules and regulations that are more about business than worship. A recent priest has been saying lines wrong when baptising. So all these people think they aren't saved anymore because of a simple mistake. Dumb A lot of people think of Catholics when they hear christain. But really most christain churches in the US don't like Catholics. Not the people, just their beliefs. They have idols that step between them and God. A lot of abuse happens in the catholic church too. Bad rep for christains

@edithputhy4948

2 жыл бұрын

@@lalotime Catholic priests can't even marry so how would they divorce

@hilairebelloc3368

2 жыл бұрын

@@lalotime The Catholic Church, being the oldest institution in the world, with over a billion members across the globe, necessarily has an extensive Code of Canon Law that, ideally, guarantees a degree of oversight and provides channels for conducting business and addressing abuses. However, the form of the Sacrament of Baptism is not a matter of canon law; it is a matter of sacramental theology. So you are wrong to connect the baptismal formula with "rules and regulations that are more about business than worship." On the contrary, the sacrament itself depends in part upon the proper words being said, which principle may be seen in embryo in the New Testament; the baptismal font is not the place for personal ingenuity. The priest in question did not make a "simple mistake"; regardless of his intentions he was either extremely careless or willfully disrespectful of the Church's instructions. Finally, to say that the invalidly baptized are not "save[d]" is to misunderstand the Catholic doctrines concerning salvation, which see a more or less gradual human progress toward beatitude, in cooperation with the divine grace normatively received at Baptism. In other words, if you're going to call something "dumb," I suggest understanding it first.

I once had a pastor who told me that he once had a woman come to him and basically admit that her husband was viciously abusing her, and she wanted to seek religious guidance since she believed that men were to be the head of the household. The pastor immediately called the cops and the husband was arrested. I wish there were more pastors who could separate from religion just for a second to do the right thing. So many of these people use it as a way to abuse their position of power. edit: As many people have said, it was a poor choice of words to say "separate from religion." This specifically referenced how people use religion as a shield to do whatever they want.

@YouKnowMeDuh

2 жыл бұрын

I am so glad that situation went well. It is unfortunate how we can be so into our faith that we forget that there are legal systems in place for situations like this.

@kylos1999

2 жыл бұрын

Good on that pastor for doing that because that’s what any rational human being should do

@providence160

2 жыл бұрын

It’s not seperate religion from doing the right thing, it’s separating greed and power to do the right thing. God tells you to turn the other cheek to be patient and loving, to not act back in a hateful, not to flagellate and hurt you. If someone is continually abusing you, you have to leave. (Also usually priests and pastors don’t call the cops due to the person asking not to, which I think is fair to be honest.)

@dakotatrue12

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with your point, but doing the right thing is not inherently separating it from religion at all.

@politicsiswack8925

2 жыл бұрын

My pastor is liked that he is a very respectable and inspiring man.

i went to this church and was in the room when this all happened, the pasture had bribed the family with "church protection" as long as she hadnt said anything. i knew the victim decently well and she was the sweetest person id ever met. i know families who still continue to go here, they removed John and replaced him with his son.

@Clutch_Kick187

3 ай бұрын

Fellow Indiana resident here.. born and raised in a Christian church.. this place looks familiar, where is it located?..

@cocobutter3175

3 ай бұрын

Church protection? Protection from what? Y'all got the Italian mafia running around robbing people, or something? Or did he mean, like, "spiritual protection"? Are they gonna pray extra hard so none of the family gets possessed? I'm genuinely curious what exactly he was trying to bribe her with. Most people dangle money or the promise of a career, but it seems like his bribe was as BS as his "confession".

@hnnhgh

3 ай бұрын

Once this guy's known to the whole world, he's gonna have so much fucking rednecks coming after his ass.

@blaiddfumbler

2 ай бұрын

​​@@Clutch_Kick187They won't tell you because they're lying about going to the church lol

@Clutch_Kick187

2 ай бұрын

@@blaiddfumbler You could be right, I googled it myself after no response, but TBH most the congregation were psychopathic as they went and hugged the sick SOB after the heat breaking, sickening truth that came out..

The fact that She steps up to the stage to say to a crowd of people that she was struggling to not kill herself, just for them to go and hug theguy like he's done something great is fcking vile.

Imagine being a dad with a daughter who goes to this church. Then imagine how little self respect you must have to give him a hug after

@schnuffelpuff3923

2 жыл бұрын

His son, Jeremiah Lowe also is a child rapist. He raped Jessi Kline when she was 13 and he was supposed to babysit her, her family also were members of John Lowe's fucked up church.

@sovietsid9452

2 жыл бұрын

It's not a matter of self respect. They are likely just stupid and brainwashed

@mikey_gc8

2 жыл бұрын

Dude, yes

@kendram6579

2 жыл бұрын

So true. I'd be disgusted and honestly feel unsafe in my own house. How could anyone hug a person after you find out he did such a horrible thing?!?

@jakefinnicum3278

2 жыл бұрын

The good thing is if you watch the whole thing a lot of people left

It was kind of smart on the part of the lady who said “you didn’t tell them she was 14 years old.” In doing that she had him admit verbally that she was 16

@noodlyboi101

Жыл бұрын

But the age of consent is 16 in Indiana.

@Mcgif21

Жыл бұрын

Well it doesn’t really sound like this lady consented

@plexyglass429

Жыл бұрын

@@noodlyboi101 oh so it's ok to abuse your power then 🤡

@Unmarketable

Жыл бұрын

@@noodlyboi101 Your litany of comments defending pedophiles and animal abusers is telling

@noodlyboi101

Жыл бұрын

@@Unmarketable Not defending a pedophile and don’t know where you got animal abuse from, I would never hurt either of my chihuahuas. She was 16 at the time, the age of consent in Indiana is 16, there was no problem unless it wasn’t consensual, which we don’t know. In France it’s 14, but no one is claiming that French people are pedophiles over there.

her voice & message was so strong. i hope she continues to heal

@DoflamingoDonxiquote

6 ай бұрын

I don’t

@Ne0rey

5 ай бұрын

@@DoflamingoDonxiquoteropemax

@WriterBug192

4 ай бұрын

​@@DoflamingoDonxiquotego to hell 😊

@Morosiss

4 ай бұрын

@@DoflamingoDonxiquote Ruh roh here comes the incel

@DoflamingoDonxiquote

3 ай бұрын

@@Morosiss get a life

He was not there to confess, he was there to save face. The way he goes about "confessing" is incredibly telling to the kind of person he is. Using just the right words to gain sympathy, and leaving out the parts that could be used to destroy his reputation. Guy is the lowest of the low. He doesn't care about repentance. He only cares about how people view him. This was just his attempt at damage control. Whole situation is gross.

@hopemarchant126

Ай бұрын

The only reason I could think why the crowd was cheering would be due to the pastor’s “honesty” (before realizing he didn’t say shit about what really happened). I grew up in a church setting and have come to realize that some groups appreciate when a “leader” is honest with them about things they have done. For example I had a pastor who would tell us every week the struggles he went through in life (because everyone struggles) and then he would connect it to a reading. It was nice because it showed us that he was not above us like some pastors seem to think but that he shared in our common problems in life as well. Then again he also wasn’t a horrible person and SA or groomed a 16 year old, then covered it up. So I’m not trying to defend this gross “leader” of the church, but I can see how his members of the church were thinking that he was going to be an upstanding man and admit his struggles. I would not cheer at all if my pastor had confessed to “committing adultery” in the first place, let alone finding out what really happened though. The thought of cheering for something that people see as a sin and considered morally wrong is gross. I hope this didn’t come off too preachy, as I wanted to share my thoughts on how the members possibly thought or saw the situation before revealing the truth. I’m also not defending anything this “pastor” and “man of god” did because that’s not what a true man or human being would do to another one.

@anthonythibert7022

10 күн бұрын

Spot on Spot on.

People need to stop forgiving people who do not regret their actions because it just encourages them. This guy doesn't regret his actions, he is not confessing. He is bragging.

@MrUssy101

2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys it’s critical: Today we are taking yet another clip from my live stream watching a KZread video that someone else made and getting millions view for very little I add with my boring and dry tired voice. Also for the comedic effect I will stretch the image on the KZread thumbnail for the billionth time. Please laugh !!!

@forgivezharion6989

2 жыл бұрын

Ratio + yb better + nobody asked + this you 🤓🤓👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻👶🏽

@pineapple2.041

2 жыл бұрын

FACTS

@justpeachy7812

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrUssy101 twitter copypasta

@cory6940

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t you have a gelbooru account?

bro imagine how awful and helpless she felt after spilling her heart out after so long of hiding it and thinking "oh yeah theyre finally gonna get to see how awful this man is and his life is over" just for people to CLAP FOR HIM and HUG HIM and FORGIVE HIM

@Poodle_Gun

2 жыл бұрын

It was really just him demonstrating power over her, yet again, this time, in front of a public audience. The sin was never corrected, so it grew exponentially, as is sin's nature.

@coreythepeanut

2 жыл бұрын

@@Poodle_Gun I want to believe, in the end, he’ll get his comeuppance. Maybe someday.

@alexanderleonardi3625

2 жыл бұрын

@@coreythepeanut no one ever does. that would be justice, and justice doesnt exist

@callidusvulpes5556

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderleonardi3625 Many don’t receive it sadly, but justice exists still. Just because it isn’t objectively (it’s impossible for it to be objectively perfect) perfect doesn’t mean it isn’t justice.

@alexanderleonardi3625

2 жыл бұрын

@@callidusvulpes5556 if it isnt perfect, it isnt justice

The anger she must of felt when they clapped

The woman's testimony made me tear up. That was so painful to listen to.

@conormayweather5474

25 күн бұрын

Quit being weak af

"you didn't tell them she was 14!" "no, 16 🤓"

@avagintz

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, like that's any better 💀

@jagerbehaviour7007

Жыл бұрын

@@avagintz still disgusting, arguably still better

@heckingbamboozled8097

10 ай бұрын

@@jagerbehaviour7007 No, not arguably. They can't consent either way.

@pi_dev

10 ай бұрын

right? its still so terrible.

@kelzie

8 ай бұрын

@@jagerbehaviour7007still under the age of consent.

Imagine telling your SA story in front of your abuser and his followers only for them to hug him later. That isn’t just a slap in the face, that is a hard kick in the crotch with a stab in the back, yet that still doesn’t amount to the pain that poor girl felt

@thewildmadcat222

Жыл бұрын

literally tho :c

@prithyachan333

Жыл бұрын

Fr real man my blood was boiling. Like how dare they?

@lexispeaks5585

Жыл бұрын

And this pain on top of it. Damn

@catsbatsnrats

Жыл бұрын

Fr, it's fucking disgusting

@emberdragon4248

Жыл бұрын

A priest could probably walk into his follower's houses, grab their baby in front of them and leave and no one would stop them. Probably also applies to their money.

I’m thankful for my church my pastor is very humble and knows he is simply here to deliver the message not to be worshipped or looked as a person on a pedestal and never judges anyone. One of the things he said that reeled me in was that he said Church is a hospital for sinners, not a museum for saints.

He's not repentant. He should be on his knees begging his victim for forgiveness

The fact that he has the ego to stand in front of the crowd, say “Ya I molested a minor, but now you’re going to forgive me because I’m undergoing the biblical recovery process” is somehow so suprising and yet almost expected

@alaskaone

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't at all surprising tbh

@greenlightxbpg

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh why he is using the Bible to justify his extremely unholy actions

@wyattjohnson5181

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure the Bible says to stone adulterers. Anyone good at pitching?

@AmberyTear

2 жыл бұрын

Knowing religious bigots this isn't surprising at all.

@maddy8328

2 жыл бұрын

@@greenlightxbpg that's what Christians do

“I told you I committed adultery.” “YOU DIDN’T TELL THEM SHE WAS 14 YEARS OLD!” “Uh, she was 16…” Yeah man that makes it MUCH more reasonable, absolutely vile human.

@Europa_GG

2 жыл бұрын

@@puregameplay7916 and?

@matthewgrimaldo5556

2 жыл бұрын

@@puregameplay7916 but not in this country

@ninevehgrey

2 жыл бұрын

@Pure Gameplay I mean lots of horrible things are legal in lots of places, doesn't make it ok.

@ML-hl1uh

2 жыл бұрын

@@puregameplay7916 Romeo and Juliet law applies to most states.

@Hellenicheavymetal

2 жыл бұрын

@@ninevehgrey I mean i mean i mean.. I mean.. I guess.

So much respect and compassion for this victim.

Baptist pastor here. A lot of problems here. There's a passage in 1 Timothy 5 which calls for a pastor guilty of such sin to be rebuked publicly. This isn't a confession. I'm glad the woman confronted him. A shame the church didn't have more discernment. The Bible does equip us to handle these evil things.

@user-lt1jd1ye3v

2 ай бұрын

A rebuke would be more like publicly punished or condemned or called out, not bragging like this guy is doing. He’s doing nothing but stroking his ego

I stood up in church when I was much younger and "came forward" about being sexually abused, when my abuser was in the congregation. Didn't mention him by name but it was a terrifying experience. I can't even imagine directly confronting them. The absolute strength of this woman.

@charlesm.2604

2 жыл бұрын

And also a room of people that were cheering him seconds ago ! Thank god they saw the distress and stood up for the victim because it could have went a complete other way, and the poor woman would have to reconsider her own life because people minimized the trauma even more. But let's not talk about it I'm just glad it went the way it did !

@crazychase98

2 жыл бұрын

Stupid go to the cops and name drop him. But you didn't that a you issue now.

@younggangstah8357

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry that happened to you flaming corgis

@freezy2755

2 жыл бұрын

Man up

@joshg6792

2 жыл бұрын

​@@freezy2755 😂😂😂

Imagine how the girl must’ve felt seeing all those people go up there and offer forgiveness… I hope for nothing but the best for her and her family

@tomioka8405

2 жыл бұрын

Yeh what a cesspool of freaks

@uzisbaked

2 жыл бұрын

Unbelievable.

@zach8474

2 жыл бұрын

Well I mean they are in a church. They doing what the bible teaches. She should take legal action if she wants him to be properly brought to justice. They have a confession and everything on tape. But I do agree forgiving that so quickly is crazy especially because it was done in his church office and 20 years of hypocrisy later after he can take a pension he reveals all smh. They are better belivers than I am.

@zimton539

2 жыл бұрын

@@zach8474 "They doing what the bible teaches" This is the dumbest shit I heard this week.

@Deathstar21991

2 жыл бұрын

@@zach8474 If this is what being a good believer looks like, then I don’t wanna have anything to do with it.

The victim receiving hugs and support when she came forward warmed my heart like no other

@mixmax2

21 күн бұрын

No. That's what you should say amen for.

That was so smart. She was 14! "No, She was 16" lol way to fall into that trap! Too good.

I love how the lady who screamed at the man for doing that to a 14 year old and he so blatantly corrects her by saying she was 16, like it makes it any better.

@MrUssy101

2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys it’s critical: Today we are taking yet another clip from my live stream watching a KZread video that someone else made and getting millions view for very little I add with my boring and dry tired voice. Also for the comedic effect I will stretch the image on the KZread thumbnail for the billionth time. Please laugh !!!

@porpledorpleborple8569

2 жыл бұрын

What the fuck is happening in these comments?

@jamesfoxx564

2 жыл бұрын

@@porpledorpleborple8569 bots takeover

@forgivezharion6989

2 жыл бұрын

Ratio + yb better + nobody asked + this you 🤓🤓👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻👶🏽

@forgivezharion6989

2 жыл бұрын

Ratio + yb better + nobody cares + this you 🤓🤓👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻👶🏽

“Pastors are worshipped more than Jesus Christ” This man is speaking the true-true.

@feanor7080

2 жыл бұрын

As a Christian, this a very sad and accurate assessment of many modern churches.

@jarofsake2356

2 жыл бұрын

@@feanor7080 As a non christian idk what happens in churches except the stereotypes

@followeroftheway6930

2 жыл бұрын

@@jarofsake2356 that honesty is refreshing

@jarofsake2356

2 жыл бұрын

@@followeroftheway6930 Thanks

@sugoi3211

2 жыл бұрын

Well of course, he's jesus himself, of course he'd know.

she was so brave in telling her story, just imagine how terrible that girl would feel if she saw them all hugging him

in our town if any adult confessed to child rape they would "disappear" and the local sheriff would look the other way.

“Pastors are worshipped more than Jesus.” 100% agree. I went to this youth conference called Generation Unleashed when I was in high school, and I swear, every pastor there had the typical hipster look (Jean jacket, brown shoes, skinny jeans, derpy beard etc.) and they were all treated like one would treat a celebrity. It’s crazy man

@forgivezharion6989

2 жыл бұрын

Ratio + yb better + nobody cares + this you 🤓🤓👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻👶🏽

@jaceangel9916

2 жыл бұрын

"Lovers of men, and not lovers of God."

@hinglemccringleberry9389

2 жыл бұрын

stuff like that is the reason I don't go to church, or even really believe in going. You're relationship with God is your own, and you shouldn't need to gather like that, especially when there are so many false believers that are head pastors or priests. I also notice that a lot of people at church are super judgemental, and like to call out others on bullshit to make you feel like shit, and make themselves seem "holier than thou"

@arr3business939

2 жыл бұрын

@@hinglemccringleberry9389 the pastors at my church are bomb, they just preach out their lungs out and the crowd loves it, including me.

@MontySlython

2 жыл бұрын

@@hinglemccringleberry9389 that depends mostly on the reason they go to church, an interesting study found that those who went to church for materialistic reasons such as relationships, food, connections were found to be the most racist or outwardly judgmental while those who solely wanted to improve their relationship with God and pray were actually some of the least racist people in the population or something like that

They are literally enabling this behaviour. This is gross, those people are gross, and I hope the victim and her family is okay and are able to get away from that environment.

@forgivezharion6989

2 жыл бұрын

Ratio + yb better + nobody cares + this you 🤓🤓👨🏼‍💻👨🏼‍💻👶🏽

@Infurno924

2 жыл бұрын

Here's a comment that isn't an shitty, offensive bot. ✌️

@CalebHemphill24

2 жыл бұрын

Are you a Christian ?

@hinglemccringleberry9389

2 жыл бұрын

@@CalebHemphill24 what does it matter if he is?

@Will-gd6df

2 жыл бұрын

these idiots aren't real Christians, ppl that actually follow the bibles example know that committing adultery is practically almost an unforgivable sin and would have disfellowshipped him from the congregation ceasing all communication with him until he's faced the consequences of his actions according to the law of the land (the court system) don't let these goofballs fool you

I could not imagine what this was like for her to do. She is so strong, brave and courageous for standing up there and speaking her story immediately after the congregation applauded for her attacker admitting his crimes against her. I could not imagine how that must have felt to hear him talk about it and receive applause. Could not imagine how that felt speaking up in front of everyone. I hope she is doing good and hope he is non-existent anymore.

@DoflamingoDonxiquote

6 ай бұрын

It’s not hard to do. Y’all just live a soft life.

@january3rd293

5 ай бұрын

I agree, she's strong for it, and the act would be hard for many people. Some people are capable of dealing with extremely stressful near death situations in some places of their life, and can still have a fear of presenting information in front of crowds. Some people don't have the ability to deal with those near death situations, but have no fear of presenting information in front of crowds. It's all too complex and interwoven. To put down one persons weakness is to insult another person they would potentially have considered strong. By that I mean, if I were to mock someone for fear of public speaking because I don't have it, I would be unintentionally mocking other people I respect who share that fear. There are so many soldiers out there who could easily physically smack me around like a fish, who incidentally happen to have that fear, just because of how life played out for them. So many people with various respectable qualities. So many in fact, that it would be statistically impossible for me not to end up throwing the insult towards one of those soldiers, if i were to call someone weak for that flaw alone. Humans are extremely complicated and multi-layered creatures, and it's a good thing we're largely past the time of reductive, simplistic points of view such as "people are all cruel". Or "people just live a soft life", right?

@_gorillazfreakinc._2

4 ай бұрын

​@@DoflamingoDonxiquote It IS hard to do. Tell me you haven't been sexually assaulted without telling me you haven't been sexually assaulted. Imagine being as bothered as you by someone coming out about being sexually abused. If anyone is soft it's you. You seem like you sympathize with an abuser, which is absolutely discusting. Like I told you before in another reply thread, seek help.

@Morosiss

4 ай бұрын

@@DoflamingoDonxiquote Incel spotted again

I’m so happy to see Charlie point out these things that are wrong about churches, it tends to be people who used to be in the church/faith, like myself

The nerve of this disgusting human being to call it an “affair” and “adultery” is absolutely mind boggling- Like no you creep you took advantage of a innocent 16 year old girl and I’m sad to say that I have feeling that she isn’t the only one but I hope I’m wrong.

@kindafreexp1415

2 жыл бұрын

Well, saying "I r***d a child" wouldn't have got him nearly as many hugs or near as spectacular a standing ovation. ...but yes, if he was willing to do it once and accepted everyone's undying love for him after he handcrafted the narrative to get off the hook he most certainly has done it and/or is willing to do it again. But after that you won't see many others come forward to tell their story, sadly.

@WillEnj0y

2 жыл бұрын

Literally the least holy thing I can imagine. If there is a god, dude will burn.

@dflaming1371

2 жыл бұрын

In the Bible, it talks about how you forgive to be forgiven by God in turn. That letting go of the bitterness in you frees YOU, let's you move on and practice what you preach. What you desire, you also give. It never says to not lock up a POS

@mmarage1

2 жыл бұрын

He was mainly hoping to avoid the details getting out that he had abused a child. He was hoping to take a smaller L and hoping to leave with his dignity and reputation mostly intact. Had she not spoken up about his bullshit, everyone would've still mostly respected that piece of sub-human refuse.

@MrOnetedify

2 жыл бұрын

in Australia 16 years is legal age. ii dont know what you on about.. how ever if he raped her thats a different story and ofc he cheated on his family which is wrong

My church's Pastor commited adultery, and he was kicked out of the church. Seeing them give him a standing ovation for this is uncomfortable.

@indiesunflowers

2 жыл бұрын

this wasn't adultery, it was child r*pe. he should be in jail. but kicking someone out for adultery is actually going against the bible. cheating is not a reason to kick someone out of a church, the place of forgiveness and "come as you are". that makes zero sense.

@icu3869

2 жыл бұрын

What on earth prompted this? The victim said , “ I’m a prisoner no more”. I’m interested in the catalyst or motivation here. ?

@Words-of-encouragement.-.

2 жыл бұрын

@@icu3869 I'm speculating here, but maybe he has been trying to keep her quiet about it, and she reached a breaking point. I think she probably gave him an ultimatum and told him that he either confesses to everyone or she will just out him. Most would choose to do it themselves so that they can frame to not be as bad as it actually was. That's exactly what he did, and although for a brief moment he seemed to be in hot water...it basically worked...

@PeachDragon_

2 жыл бұрын

In Italy this shit wouldn't fly, Americans are very picky about the rules they want to follow, despite screeching "god bless America" every twelve secondd

@noahparker50

2 жыл бұрын

Is God not all about forgiveness? You forget that in God's eyes all sin is equal except for one. Would you forgive someone for lying? Would you kick him out for lying? If the church doesn't want him as pastor anymore that's definitely reasonable, but to kick him out of the church is not right in my opinion.

A larger picture is forming, why I started digging your content, your staying power. And my recent heavy dive into this Stream/Twitch/online culture you all grew up in. Profane language aside, there's an unwavering ethical thing Moist adheres to. Regardless of the age of any video.

@fathergascoigne1457

7 ай бұрын

The fuck u wafflin aboot??

@mkpieris1

7 ай бұрын

What the hell are you yapping about?

@polartechie

6 ай бұрын

He's a good person.

@graclee8873

4 ай бұрын

can u put this in simple terms

@kiwiri5921

4 ай бұрын

@@graclee8873no matter how many years it’s been moist stays ethically and morally consistent. he’s always a good person who sticks to the same ideas and beliefs, which is why his platform has stayed strong for so many years. he’s got the same goodness and morals whether the video is a day old or 272661 days old.

The fact the victim was there to see people praise him is appalling

That victim was so brave, so very brave to stand up for herself infront of her abuser. I hope the girl is okay.

@dontspikemydrink9382

11 ай бұрын

eh, woman. agree with you otherwise

@dontspikemydrink9382

9 ай бұрын

@@Bwdabawdy yes

@duckified.

7 ай бұрын

@@dontspikemydrink9382 "girl" doesn't have to be an age-specific term, it can just mean a female person.

@Crooked_g

7 ай бұрын

@@duckified.if it did mean that woman wouldn’t be a word

@CSWdenji69

6 ай бұрын

I don’t

“She was 14!” “No she was 16” THAT DOESNT CHANGE ANYTHING

@DoflamingoDonxiquote

6 ай бұрын

Kind of does. It’s a big age gap for a child. Objectively.

@altarred

6 ай бұрын

it doesn't change what he did

@bluekitty7838

6 ай бұрын

@@DoflamingoDonxiquote still horrible as heck

@DoflamingoDonxiquote

6 ай бұрын

@@bluekitty7838 don’t @ me again

@finestsickman216

5 ай бұрын

@@DoflamingoDonxiquote 14 to 18 is a gap 14 and 16 is not 16 and 20 is gap stop trying to mitigate being a pedo bro by your profile pic you look like someone attracted to highschoolers

Sometimes I come back to videos like this when I feel bad, and it reminds me that I'm not that bad. Thank you Charlie

Forgiveness wasn’t theirs to give

"What I've never understood is why pastors, themselves, are treated like gods." This. This is one of the biggest reasons I stopped going to Church. Senior members and leaders of the Church are treated like gods who can do no wrong, while everyone else is judged and belittled for every, tiny little move. The hypocrisy in Church is rampant and ridiculous.

@obama_man9933

2 жыл бұрын

That’s mainly just mega churches for some reason

@DellenoftheDell

2 жыл бұрын

@@obama_man9933 You’d be surprised… many people treat their local pastors the same way and it does a great deal of widespread harm.

@hallieeramos

2 жыл бұрын

@Obama _man9 Nope. Grew up in a tiny town going to a church with a population of less than 100, had the same problems. People talk about these issues mainly in reference to megachurches, but I've seen and heard about these problems at churches of all sizes and denominations.

@Brucifer2

2 жыл бұрын

Church has a strange parasitic community. The good news is that for the most part its like twitter, they only have power over you if you're in the community...until it comes into politics.

@anitachamberlain3391

2 жыл бұрын

@@hallieeramos I can vouch for that too. It's sad that it seems to happen regardless of size. I do t know who's actually safe from that.

I feel so bad for this girl. Imagine coming out and telling everyone you were sexually physically abused as a child and then the people you just told this to basically dont give a single f

@BigBrosFilms

2 жыл бұрын

That's usually what happens in the south. They just blame the victim no matter what.

@Kizamo

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigBrosFilms this wasn’t even the south tho, it was Indiana. This shit can happen everywhere

@bluebleo9762

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigBrosFilms Indiana is about as far north as you can get in the Midwest without going into Canada.

@PiperAtTheGatesOfYourMom

2 жыл бұрын

@@BigBrosFilms baseless & untruthful claim just to bash on the south. This was Indiana. It has nothing to do with the state, but house to house. You can meet terrible people in Texas, or great people in Cali, but then go down one house and you’ll meet great people in texas and awful people in Cali.

@sarahamira5732

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kizamo to be fair I've been to Indiana. It may not physically be in the south but it sure as hell is the south mentally speaking

Straight up acting like he was actually the victim

Why would he even try to admit this if he cant get away with it

Calling what he did "adultery" is like being upset about a scratch on my car that's completely totaled.

@THE-WAY_THE-TRUTH_THE-LIFE.

Жыл бұрын

But what he did was adultery

@ketchup_lube

Жыл бұрын

​@Jesus's name was Joshua you have to ask yourself what's worse, SA of a child or adultery.

@jackcinephile7554

Жыл бұрын

TO BE FAIR, the word "adultery" in the Bible covers many things. Even premarital sex is considered adultery. So, if you wanna be technical about it, assaulting a woman is adultery, by biblical definition. However, he deliberately uses very broad vocabulary in order for people to not understand the true gravity of his sins.

@heckingbamboozled8097

10 ай бұрын

@@THE-WAY_THE-TRUTH_THE-LIFE. It wasn't JUST adultery, you r*pe apologist. He took advantage of an underage girl.

@killjinxx

7 ай бұрын

@@THE-WAY_THE-TRUTH_THE-LIFE. yeah, technically, but it wasn’t JUST adultery. that implies that he just cheated on his wife with another woman, not that he molested an underage girl?? fucking obviously are you okay

“I got baptized twice just cause I was afraid God might have missed the first one” Is the actual funniest sentence to come out of this man’s mouth for me. I was not expecting that at all.

@kill.me.1212

Жыл бұрын

RIGHT 😭

@celestexo1999

Жыл бұрын

To trust in God so much and believe he's this out right almighty being that can do anything but then say some shit like that. Like oh, so God does mess up then I guess? Not shitting on anyone's belief. Just pointing out irony. It's funny.

@mepd3350

Жыл бұрын

@@celestexo1999 well... he kinda did mess up since his perfect humans didnt listen and became imperfect

@santaclause760

Жыл бұрын

@@mepd3350No, we are made perfect but our actions are imperfect, that is the gift of free will and it is in our nature to do evil with our will, God does not want us to sin but it is His gift he gave so gracefully.

@mepd3350

Жыл бұрын

@@santaclause760 so basically still no, we aren't made perfect because if we were we wouldn't have that nature of "doing evil"

I'm so glad she went up there and spoke out against him. I'm actually impressed that the rest of the congregation eventually decided to turn on him. He deserves no sympathy.

@tylerthompson5859

3 ай бұрын

Nevermind. I spoke 5 seconds before I should have.

@majorpwner241

2 ай бұрын

"He deserves no sympathy." Neither does she. She totally consented to that and now wants to be a victim 20 years too late. Typical 'me too' BS.

@sweett3253

2 ай бұрын

​@@majorpwner241if you are under 18 you are not mature enough to consent. Stop defending pedophila

Something similar happened to my mum recently when she joined one of those cant-sing-choirs. It was about historical abuse and she couldn’t stand being anywhere near the people after the leader got sentenced, because they all knew what he’d done, but they just kept gushing over him; keeping him on a pedestal. It’s just so sick.

“for years i thought i was a horrible person having suicidal thoughts…” not only was she put through the physical abuse of molestation, she was put through the emotional abuse and trauma of her religion demonizing her mental health struggles that were caused by her PASTOR. disgusting. i hope he gets what he deserves, and i hope she gets a chance to begin a healing process.

@supremesalsa3257

2 жыл бұрын

Umm I’m a Christian and it is certainly not demonized. Maybe by shitty people in said religion but that doesn’t make the whole religion that way

@sneery9677

2 жыл бұрын

@@supremesalsa3257 ❤

@alexbush714

2 жыл бұрын

@@supremesalsa3257 thats so awesome that that's what u got out of that comment that was so cool thanks

@PA-1000

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexbush714 I mean, their comment wasn't off point. Don't know why ur acting so sarcastic

@eggey434

2 жыл бұрын

@@supremesalsa3257 okay, I think I got it. So your saying that yes it happens but it's not all Christians. Which is a given? I mean yeah, it not all Christians but it's a noticeable amout of christens that do this kind of thing. And it is important to address and talk about.

This is absolutely disgusting. Good for this victim for standing up for herself. This man deserves jail time.

@kirbo7184

2 жыл бұрын

@UrMom how doesn't he?

@KFWinterblue

2 жыл бұрын

@@kirbo7184 he’s just another average pastor using church to do harm to children

@randominternetbro6562

2 жыл бұрын

@UrMom how not? 1. It's fucking disgusting. 2. It's a felony.

@paltil

2 жыл бұрын

@UrMom I felt like I got a seizure trying to read your comment, but anyways, he committed an actual crime. He deserves jail time 100%

@NorthAyase

2 жыл бұрын

@@randominternetbro6562 I haven't watched the full video, did he assault her?

Had to come back to thie video cause 2 years ago i was in high school watching tbis, and then my teacher took my phone so i forgot about watching it.

@DoctorDipshits

7 ай бұрын

The video came out about a year and a half ago. There is no way you watched this 2 years ago

@user-pk4tl2fk3n

7 ай бұрын

​@@DoctorDipshits🤓

Thats crazy. Hits close to home too, the feeling of them forgiving that guy really gave me some flashbacks 😂😂😂

what a slap in the face to the victim to have dozens of people go up and embrace your offender after you explained what happened in an extremely vulnerable way. i'm disgusted.

@salvie777

2 жыл бұрын

THIS!!! I can’t believe no one and Charlie haven’t mentioned that part specifically. That is seriously just a WHOLE new layer of trauma dumped on top of what was already there

@teapeaa

2 жыл бұрын

@@salvie777 he did, stated that everyone started to hug him as forgiveness as if he was the victim. its evil. poor girl.

@tamaracheyenne7861

2 жыл бұрын

I cant even imagine the feeling she got while watching that...so fucking sad.

@KingM119

2 жыл бұрын

sounds like some form of manipulation for a lack of an better word.

@youngeeneden1594

2 жыл бұрын

@@salvie777 really? I’ve never expect people to come and comfort me as a victim. They’re leaving their lives, they’re being deceived by others, I mean it’s tough to hear him praised, but jeez

As a rape victim, this whole thing is just totally unfair. It's not the church's place to forgive him. That power belongs to the victim. I don't understand how they could possibly go up to hug the guy after finding out what he did.

@ryanwalsh5019

Жыл бұрын

@@waclac sounds like a big old excuse to me.

@juliadesoto7374

Жыл бұрын

@@waclac That's a very old testament thing to say. You need some serious mental help, hun.

@waclac

Жыл бұрын

@@juliadesoto7374 everything I just said is from the New Testament. and that’s crazy you mention “mental health” could you actually imagine everything I seen and went through that made me believe in god was all fake? that’s an interesting thought. I’ve seen some dark things in the night, I’ve seen paranormal activity worse then the movies in real life. I call upon Jesus for help and watched these things coward in fear. i never stop believing in him sense

@justinhogan8131

Жыл бұрын

Believe it or not. As a Rape Victim myself. I make the choices of Repentance AND Forgiveness myself. It doesn't matter what you think is "unfair" or not. She is brave for confronting him, For once she has said her piece, she has already won. We hold our ground and nothing else.

@Retro_A.M

Жыл бұрын

Luke 17:4 “Even if that person wrongs you seven times a day and each time turns again and asks forgiveness, you must forgive.”

imagine what is was like for the people going to that church for the first time

“ No she wasn’t 14 smh, she was 16 ” so much different mr. cant be loyal to me wife

Lifelong Christian here. I agree with Charlie, pastors are lifted up WAY too high. And this guy needs to answer for his crimes. This congregation had likely been taught false teachings by this pastor to make himself look better than he is. Absolutely disgusting, using Christianity to try to justify his actions and get away from them.

@lilzenwi6714

2 жыл бұрын

Pastors have been exalted higher than Jesus it’s sad to say

@kelvyquayo

2 жыл бұрын

Biblically: This guy NEEDS to step down. He is DISQUALIFIED. He’s a fraud. If he doesn’t step down he’s even a bigger fraud.

@kelvyquayo

2 жыл бұрын

@@hoffer_moment Check out the channel THE SUPERIOR WORD 🙏🏼. That’s my congregation now.

@Satellaview1889

2 жыл бұрын

@@hoffer_moment Yeah, so many people can get disconnected from what’s important, and they just focus on what the pastor says. Open your Bible and come to your own conclusions for once!

@editorproductions5238

2 жыл бұрын

nono he hasn't taught them anything different, its just how the Christian community works

The "yes WE did it" after being asked if HE did it makes this even more disgusting. Trying to put part of the blame on her like this. 🤢 I don't know if it's the same in America as it is in Germany, but if it is, he won't even have to face consequences, as the church has their own laws and they will likely not sentence him for his crimes. Its truly sickening 🤢

@batsbatsghost8757

Жыл бұрын

It's different here in the U.S., thank God. Church figures are held under the same law as the rest of us. That being said though, the Catholic church is notorious for hiding evidence in cases of SA.

@magnus6609

Жыл бұрын

He definitely won't be punished, by the law at least. There's a thing called statute of limitations in most places, meaning you can't be arrested for a crime after a certain amount of time has passed. Sad, but true.

@ryanwalsh5019

Жыл бұрын

@@magnus6609 even if that weren't the case I doubt he'd be charged unfortunately. Cops here are very corrupt.

@EvilOverlord1662

Жыл бұрын

The church here in America does not have its own laws, buuuuuut the people enforcing the laws here are very corrupt. So if he did go to prison, he's probably out already.

@draytonfant8765

Жыл бұрын

@@magnus6609 not legal justice but justice can be brought all the same spreading his misdeeds and making sure it can never happen again is the first step and may god strike him down with a vengeance unseen before

Pastors try not to touch kids challenge impossible

@LucasTheGreat.

3 ай бұрын

Mispelt drag queens

@GrandWizardRettOfTheKuKluxKlan

3 ай бұрын

@@LucasTheGreat.and theologically liberal pastors and churches that hang pride flags on their church doors

That is insane man 🤦‍♂️

As a Christian myself, I can’t wrap my head around the fact that not only does this pastor admit to committing a horrible crime and he doesn’t seem guilty about it at all, but the fact that the people in pews applaud him and give him hugs. If the priest at MY church did that, it would completely change the way I view him for the worst.

@cablemccraft880

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I was expecting a tearful apology at the very least, but it definitely came off as him doing his best to downplay it. Based the first part of his story I do understand the congregation forgiving him. From their perspective he made a big mistake one time 20 years ago. Biblically there is a separation between forgiving a sin and lack of consequences. He can be forgiven by God/Man, yet still deserve prison. In the same way, his congregation can forgive him, while still not wanting anything to do with him ever again.

@O-bearer-mine

2 жыл бұрын

Man deserves a restraining order, imprisonment, firing, put on a register for predatory and sex offense conducts, fired again and exiled from the church, as frankly if he is capable of committing harm on people on its premises, he should not be allow near said premises This is only the professional response to such a crime and confession, victims, survivors and witnesses will probably do other unprofessional shit, but the professional and legal response is the bare minimum The monster doesn't deserve rest, enough said

@saulstein9560

2 жыл бұрын

at my brothers church recently the pastor either got caught or came out to the church that he had an affair in the past year or so and he was called to step down and leave the church not applauded and told how good he was for coming clean.

@tbducky4136

2 жыл бұрын

@@saulstein9560 my previous pastor was confronted for having 17+ affairs. He was then brought up in front of the church had to admit to what he did an was then also asked to step down from the position.

@zombietoothache

2 жыл бұрын

I am a Christian and I would gladly drop what I am doing and help this kind of person meet God... whether they're ready or not. The fact that no one felt the need to break this guy's knees is troubling. I don't ever want to look at someone like this and be able to instantly forgive them because they read the bible to me once a week.

7:25 this woman in the crowd is actually so smart for overstating the age difference as to make the pastor confess to the actual age of the girl..whether she meant to or not she got the confession out of him that "no, ackschully she was 16" not only does this open up the fact that she was underage it also tells that the pastor was very well aware that he was sexually involved with a minor.

@Mr12Relic

2 жыл бұрын

He's holding that point because the age of consent in their state is 16, so he's not facing criminal charges for statutory.

@PistenDeer

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mr12Relic I hate that so much, people will hold onto State ages of consent as if the federal age of consent isn't 18 for a very good reason, and as if that somehow makes it any less creepy. A 16 year old in California is still the same age in Indiana, still a minor no matter what some sleazy laws say.

@Person01234

2 жыл бұрын

@@PistenDeer It's not. The vast majority of countries and US states choose 14, 15 or 16. The US federal government didn't magically get the right age over everyone else, nor did california. Your cultural norms are YOUR cultural norms. What's sleazy is that this relatively old man manipulated and abused this young girl from a position of power into having sex with him. Just because the age of consent is 16 doesn't mean "relationships" like this shouldn't be heavily scrutinised, Age of Consent doesn't actually matter that much in itself because even when it's lower you don't get a big rush of teenagers wanting to have sex with middle aged men and women. I think quite clearly age of consent or not, there wasn't consent here. As the replier states, the guy wants to make sure it's 16 because 16 is not underage where he's at and he won't face statutory charges. This would force her to prove rape rather than just sex (the latter of which he's admitted to).

@MrPainisCupcake

2 жыл бұрын

@@Person01234 A lot of countries with age of consent below 18 specify that if someone under 18 has sex with someone that's over 18 it could still be classified as a crime even if the underage person consented.

@fabledlight908

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mr12Relic statutory works anyway, age of consent (if it's under 18) usually means with *other people who are under 18*. 16 yr old with a 30yr old is still (statutory) rape

He's asking for forgiveness for "adultery" and very carefully framed it as such. The congregation thought it was with a consenting adult and though the clapping was odd, they thought he was repenting of that sin. Come to find out it was actually closer to grape of a minor (going by her tone and words she chose, asking if he remembered it was on his office floor). Manipulation and grooming starting as a minor and continuing as an adult while he was in a position of "power" is a far cry from adultry. He was definitely trying to cover up his actual sin and they were not fooled and THATS what made them so mad. Its a shame forgiveness is mistaught.

its sad that there's actual people like this out in this world and they think they can be forgiven, that woman's life is ruined with that memory in her mind for the rest of her life.

I can only imagine how that girl feels watching them hug that monster. I’m absolutely disgusted. You’d think they would have him arrested. I pray she gets the justice she deserves and heals.

@maddy8328

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, it's so nasty

@backpackpepelon3867

2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating to see the Will Smith slap event type of behavior from the crowd in that church. Not a surprise tho, just very interesting to see it captured in the video like this.

@gabiferreira6864

2 жыл бұрын

@@backpackpepelon3867 Are you really putting sexual abuse of a minor on the same level as a slap?

@BigBodyBiggolo

2 жыл бұрын

Since he is admitting it on video now she should press charges

@angel-nv7jk

2 жыл бұрын

Christians 🙄

This type of “forgiveness” mindset is so sick. I’ve had a close family member who was abused as a teen, and that man still was forgiven and accepted in church. A crime is a crime. And if it happens again, and it almost always does, it’s too late for it to get the punishment it deserves.

@Bodacious_Crustacious

2 жыл бұрын

Well of course it may depend on the crime that was committed. Sezual abuse or misconduct however is unacceptable.

@MrUssy101

2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys it’s critical: Today we are taking yet another clip from my live stream watching a KZread video that someone else made and getting millions view for very little I add with my boring and dry tired voice. Also for the comedic effect I will stretch the image on the KZread thumbnail for the billionth time. Please laugh !!!

@Anonassassin

2 жыл бұрын

First hollywood for Will Smith and now this. Honestly I would have gotten my belongings and walked out.

@STEIN470

2 жыл бұрын

that is how religion works. pray for forgiveness, forget, rinse and keep doing you sickly deeds. Nobody cares what terrible crimes you commit if you're part of religion. even my grandpa, completely catholic. is a terrible sick, abusive man. but he's religious so it is alright to those around. gross isn't it, well I suppose that's how the world works nowadays.

@iamhereblossom1588

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrUssy101 4chan copypasta? Also, that's cool man.

holy fuck, while hearing that guy in the crowd say "did you do it" i was hoping for him to say yes, then get fucking attacked

@CSWdenji69

6 ай бұрын

Weak 🤣

they should have crowded around the victim and prayed over her... why does the abuser always get the loving forgiveness and the victim never gets the love for there pain in situations like this?

The way the woman talked about "hiding this for so long" and the general animosity in her voice is what makes me think she was probably going to bring it to light on her own. The way the pastor tells his side feels like he knew he was going to get exposed and chose to confess first in an attempt to control the situation as best he could. If not that, what else could have possibly prompted this confession?

@Deathstar21991

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what I was thinking. The pastor only confessed to save face. Otherwise it would’ve been a much bigger scandal.

@taylanmaxwell6525

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah from watching the video I believe the person recording was with the girl because after he thinks he’s in the clear a blond girl gets up and walks in front of the camera to the front. Makes me think they confronted him and planned this out to ensure he told the truth but then took matters into their own hands.

@CeeJayThe13th

2 жыл бұрын

That makes a lot of sense. I didn't think about that until I read your comment but I bet you're correct.

@crywolf826

2 жыл бұрын

Too true lol. That's probably exactly what happened. He had a panicked defensive tone when people were yelling at him.

@YouKnowMeDuh

2 жыл бұрын

There is little else that could have prompted his reaction other than an outside party somehow finding out about the situation. Damage control before the rumors start. But kudos to her for speaking up regardless. I cannot imagine listening to my abuser being applauded and still having the confidence to speak the truth up on stage. Just wow 👏👏👏

The woman is brave for telling him to his face, in front of an audience. Unfortunately they're all brainwashed.

@MrUssy101

2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys it’s critical: Today we are taking yet another clip from my live stream watching a KZread video that someone else made and getting millions view for very little I add with my boring and dry tired voice. Also for the comedic effect I will stretch the image on the KZread thumbnail for the billionth time. Please laugh.

@forgivezharion6989

2 жыл бұрын

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@thelastlightz2606

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrUssy101 You sound boring

@Regun3x

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrUssy101 this isn't a professional edited video that is he is watching and speaking of. It's not like it's content made by another KZreadr, it's just a video someone filmed. If anything, I'm sure more people will go watch the OG video after watching this. I don't understand what you're upset about.

@sirknightj3094

2 жыл бұрын

I cant imagine what she went through and for everyone just to so quickly sway it aside was honestly sickening

I agree, there is no power or righteousness in forgiving such concealed and deliberately buried crimes

I appreciate the fact that Charlie is not shitting on religious people here and just the guy who’s an actual piece of crap what a legend

@DaffierPig6843

8 ай бұрын

But they still support him in the end Actual delusion

@DoflamingoDonxiquote

6 ай бұрын

We’re all pieces of crap, and if you disagree ur in for a rude awakening.

@abjectmadness1111

5 ай бұрын

@@DoflamingoDonxiquotewhy r all of your comments so angry bro

@_gorillazfreakinc._2

4 ай бұрын

​@@DoflamingoDonxiquote That's not an excuse for commiting horrible crimes

@erikabare1848

4 ай бұрын

@@DoflamingoDonxiquoteyeah but not everyone is a supporter of child rapists?

The man doesn’t need forgiveness, he needs to be thrown in prison.

@StevePerez2900

2 жыл бұрын

Calm the fuck down

@robot4268

2 жыл бұрын

You spelled meat grinder wrong

@brandoncook6190

2 жыл бұрын

I am the God of earthworm's and homeless people.

@mr.bitches6263

2 жыл бұрын

thrown under the prison*

@brandoncook6190

2 жыл бұрын

I am the God of earthworm's and homeless people.

"You didn't say she was 14" "No, 16" What a difference

@TVPMLP

2 жыл бұрын

the person who shouted "you didnt say she was 14" did that intentionally so the pastor could admit that the person he molested was 16 (by correcting that person in front of the crowd)

@the-ov4gc

2 жыл бұрын

@@TVPMLP he finna be a good lawyer

@AndrewDukes

2 жыл бұрын

@@TVPMLP isn’t 16 the age of consent tho? So if a 16 year old gives consent to an adult then it’s not child rape right?

@cmog8182

2 жыл бұрын

@@the-ov4gc congrats u guys both managed to steal the top comment

@the-ov4gc

2 жыл бұрын

@@cmog8182 thank you😎

I feel bad for the victim because imagine saying what happened to you then seeing people go up to be all forgiving and pitying the man who hurt her and abused her in so many ways

The courage that woman had is inspirational.

As a Catholic, this makes me enraged. We do not boast our sins, especially in this manner. When we seek forgiveness, we are told to do what is right. If this man actually felt sorry for what he did, he would admit to his crime and turn himself over to the police. A simple "sorry" is not enough; one must repent and reap what he sews.

@alexanderleonardi3625

2 жыл бұрын

anyone who could do what that thing did is incapable of remorse. kill it

@Idk-dj7vh

2 жыл бұрын

Fr

@KrakkenXXX

2 жыл бұрын

I’m sure you were touched too

@dominator80053

2 жыл бұрын

@@KrakkenXXX 🤓

@GreebusBleeb

2 жыл бұрын

This is standard behavior for the church in most of the country

I don't know where this happened, but I wish 16 was considered a sexual minor everywhere. I was assaulted at 16, the jury was convinced I wanted it, the 30 year old man only did time in jail because he provided a gun and tried to hire someone to kill me. He was in jail for two years. I hope she gets some sort of justice, for herself and for the rest of us.

@lilgreenslimecat

2 жыл бұрын

Oh my god I'm so sorry this happened to you. I hope you recover from this 🙏 By the way I totally agree, remembering myself at 16 years old I was a completely batshit insane person and I can't imagine someone this age could give clear consent

@hungry_khid1007

2 жыл бұрын

Skill issue

@kalleb1530

2 жыл бұрын

​@@hungry_khid1007 bro chill, not the right place 😬😂

@slimely9758

2 жыл бұрын

god that's horrible... the system really is fucked up. I honestly don't know what to say other than I hope you're doing okay. stay strong💕

@MammalianCreature

2 жыл бұрын

@@hungry_khid1007 Lose some weight.

The same people who force-feed us religion break every commandment regularly.

Raised going to church and still go. I personally have seen 3 situations like this happen in a church and its sexual immorality that is rampant.

Pastor: I am simply a humble sinner Woman: actually she's so brave revealing so many details about a horrific crime to a congregation that just cheered for the guy

@98loud

2 жыл бұрын

This should honestly be shown to people who may have experienced something but haven't come forward about it, seeing the narrative change so quickly when her side came out is somewhat encouraging.

@MGVK2277

2 жыл бұрын

@Kavetion no