Partition, Kashmir, and the Future of Pakistan-India Relations Ft. Mosharraf Zaidi | EP183
In today’s podcast, we are joined by Mr. Mosharraf Zaidi as we delve into a range of critical topics. We explore the partition, Jinnah’s ideology, and the geostrategic importance of Kashmir, Afghanistan and India-Pakistan relations.
The discussion also covers the problematic decision-making by the Pakistani elite and the exclusion of the younger generation (ages 30 to 35) from key roles. We emphasize the need for forward-thinking leadership to shape Pakistan's future, especially concerning trade relations and economic stability.
Join us for this insightful conversation on the past, present, and future of Pakistan-India relations and the imperative for youthful leadership in shaping Pakistan's future.
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00:00 Highlights
01:30 Should we celebrate Jinnah?
06:00 Jinnah's vision for Pakistan
12:00 These old politicians will not decide our future
16:00 Young generation's dilemma and thoughts about Pakistan
20:47 Kashmir, Gaza, and Ukraine
21:47 Jinnah's vision and Hindu-Muslim unity
23:00 Enjoy freedom vs Maintain freedom
25:20 Ishaq Dar statement of Pakistan India Trade
33:36 Nobody has done anything dramatic like Malik Riaz
36:00 Asad Umar's era was also not better than Dar's
44:00 Pakistan has no young leadership
50:00 Without national security, Pakistan is nothing
55:00 The Pakistani elite and 5th generation warfare
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Knowledge 0% accent 100% 😂
@zigzoog123
2 ай бұрын
dumb as a box of rocks 😂😂
@redheadin
2 ай бұрын
Pakistani English ko hi knowledge samajte hai Bhai for them we Indian are uneducated every podcast mai modi ko gali denge Kashmir Mai freedom nahi hai bolenge khatam😂
@abhishekarya5685
2 ай бұрын
😂😂
@Mukesh_Devrari
2 ай бұрын
He is really a fool😂.
@Maithili_V
2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
We Indian kashmiri muslim don't want to any relation with Pakistan Jay hind vandematram 🇮🇳
@rockykhan6338
2 ай бұрын
ramu make id with real name im saying this being myself from india mumbai
@aatmaDipoBhava
2 ай бұрын
@@rockykhan6338 you are not indian by choice you are by chance indian passport holder bcoz True Indian muslim sees beyond religion and loves nation
@silenthill1035
2 ай бұрын
You are lying.
@abhishekarya5685
2 ай бұрын
@@rockykhan6338kya tuzhe yeh nahi lagta ki tu Kashmir ko alag manta hai ? Tu Muslim hai aur terse yeh jawab milna normal hai but fir bhi dil nahi manta ki India Muslim Kashmir ko India ka nahi mante .. Shame on you, religion ko g**nd me dal lo, think about nation first
@rajvanshsingh6588
2 ай бұрын
K@@rockykhan6338
If he is considered an intellectual in Pakistan. I can understand why Pakistan is a failed state.
@Zainab-jb7lr
Ай бұрын
Mind your own business..
@hariprasadallaka4292
Ай бұрын
If he is really an intellectual ask him to speak about the fact of hot incubation of terrorism in pakistha which is the real reason for not extending a hand of friendship . It’s not anything else , Mr. Vajpayee did extend friendship by travelling all the way to Lahore what did we get , a fucking war. So first find your own faults which is central to terrorism and fix it before asking for our hand. And also starting 1948 to even today every fucking activity of insurgency has Pakistan’s hand and we ignored it for a long time. Not anymore
@AlHindMaskeen
28 күн бұрын
@Zainab-jb7lr i could say the same to u but i know u beg for a living, darling ! 😘😍❤
@AlHindMaskeen
28 күн бұрын
@Zainab-jb7lr relax my love ! U must be tired begging all day... take some rest.
@Zainab-jb7lr
28 күн бұрын
@AlHindMaskeen first of all, I am not your love, and thank God for that . Besides, we can see where all indian wealth went to, Ambani who spend more on their elephants than you and your fellow humans 😄
We Indians thank JInnah even more than Pakistanis for creating Pakistan. If India wasn't partitioned, the parts which are Pakistan today, would've been a HUGE obstacle in India's progress. THANK YOU JINNAH!!
@atokimruk937
2 ай бұрын
Hold on to the thank you. The pork liv8ng Jenna failed to do his job. He did not get every Muslim out of India and into Pakistan. He should have given fire orders to his successors before he croaked that they must get every Muslim out of India by 1949. Then I could have gotten him a posthumous Emmy for some useless speech he might have made. I have connections with the Emmy board. Alas, he failed...
@Guessswhosback
2 ай бұрын
This was Universe way of saying to Bharat- “Buckle up, We goin’ for hell of a ride”
@avinashmishra7735
2 ай бұрын
@user-od9co6yv3m Jinnah was so "careful" of the weak Muslims of Hindu majority areas that he clearly asked them to not leave India entirely and let it become Hindu Nation. He was such a bigot that he proposed 2 Nation Theory, brought it into action but opposed complete population exchange to make sure India remains JOINT ACCOUNT (Dar-Al-Harb) of Hindus and Muslims and Pakistan becomes PEROSNAL ACCOUNT of Muslims. He was such a cunning man to ask for partition of India beacuse the Indian subcontinent as a whole was Hindu majority but didn't want partition of Punjab and Bangladesh because those provinces were Muslim majority. He also made a deal with Christians of Punjab to support the creation of Pakistan in the name oF Abrahmic brotherhood but never gave them equal position in the society. Infact he deliberately disallowed many Hindus and Christians to cross the border and come to India because he thought he would use them for bargaining with India and also use them for sanitary workers. He was such a pedophile that he ran away with the daughter of his Parsi friend and converted her to Islam but was not happy to see his own daughter marry a Parsi. He was such a "freedom fighter" that he was never even jailed for an hour by the Britishers. He in fact made the deal with the Britishers of making Pakistan the part of the so called common wealth. He was such an intellectual that he never wrote anything about how to exactly run Pakistan. He was such a deceiver that he made all kinds of false promises to all kinds of Muslims just to pave the way for the disintegration of India. He was such a corrupt and racist that he wanted his private house in Mumbai to not be overtaken by the Govt of India, rather rented to some white men. He was so jealous of the Nehru-Edwina relationship that he even directly asked Mountbatten about it. He was such a hindu hater that he even visited Dalit leaders of that time like Ambedkar and Periyar to further break up India. He was such a MADHARCHOD that he even asked Brithsers to give India in the hands of Muslims because according to him "Brishers took it from Mughals". I can write on and on and on....Only Hindutva can show the world how to deal Islam with Mutual-Respect
@BlackSabbath10019
2 ай бұрын
@user-od9co6yv3m -- No, Indian Muslims are our own Indian brothers & sisters. That's the MAIN difference between India & Pakistan. If we start treating our Muslims the way they treat their Hindus & other minorities, there won't be any difference between us & them.
@dharmashekhar1047
29 күн бұрын
@@BlackSabbath10019 Indian Muslims are closet Pakistanis. No doubt about it.
It's Great How the Stockholm Syndrome has gone so Far As To Call It a Privilege to be a Pakistani under the Feet of Pakistan Army
@goodsong_views
2 ай бұрын
he's in US
@venkataramanasrivatsasa6470
2 ай бұрын
Sir, he claims as liberal as Jinnah. Certainly he is. Jinnah couldn't compete with the new star emerged from South Africa, Gandhi. He withdrew to his practice in England only to return after seeing a chance by getting rid of his so called image of muslim Hindu unity. Funnily this championship title was put by none other than Gandhi. Jinnah couldn't better over the leaders like Gandi, Nehru, Patel and Netaji who were leaders of masses due to their sacrifices over comforts and cash. All these people adore jinnah because they think they can't compete with Hindus, which proved wrong. Muslims like Azeemji Premji and many more top diplomats, players, artists and civil servants proved them wrong.
If jinnah was ambassador of hindu muslim unity than modi is a maulana. 😂
@abhijeetm29
2 ай бұрын
Modi is maulana though. Maulana Narendruddin Pasmandadas Modi.
@zigzoog123
2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@themyself1212
2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@silenthill1035
2 ай бұрын
Mohammad Ali Jinnah WAS a champion of Hindu-Muslim unity BEFORE he realized that Hindu majority will crush Muslim minority's demands, culture, heritage, economy, etc. That bleak assessment turned out to be true.
@chaitanya9229
2 ай бұрын
@@silenthill1035😂
Madness on Steroids!
@zigzoog123
2 ай бұрын
sometimes learn or atleast attempt to say a word or two that is true. It was like listening to fiction 😂😂😂😂😂
@sewaligoswami781
2 ай бұрын
Exactly
Indians don't even think of pakistan nowdays 😂😅
@TonyStark-mm6qy
2 ай бұрын
We NEVER EVER thought about them 😂
Yeah. Jinnah was such a symbol of hindu muslim unity that he divided the nation into three parts on the name of religion. I think Subhash Chandra Bose was the example of not of only hindu muslim, but if other religion unity too . Everyone uses to love him and he used to treat everyone like a family in Azad hind fauj. There was more muslim who used to fight for him.
@zigzoog123
2 ай бұрын
jinnah 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@silenthill1035
2 ай бұрын
Mohammad Ali Jinnah WAS a champion of Hindu-Muslim unity BEFORE he realized that Hindu majority will crush Muslim minority's demands, culture, heritage, economy, etc. That bleak assessment turned out to be true.
@WRATH19
2 ай бұрын
@@silenthill1035Indian Hindus ne kisi bhi minorities ko crush nehi Kia ulta .... minorities ki number and percentage dono bare....par paxtan ne apne minorities ko jamke crush Kia .....shame on you 🤬
@silenthill1035
2 ай бұрын
@@WRATH19 Read the Sachar Committee report regarding just the economic marginalization of Muslims in India.
@rajvanshsingh8165
2 ай бұрын
@@silenthill1035ek baap ke aulad ha to data published kar Indian Hindus in pakistan and Bangladesh aur muslims population percentage...agar difference nahi dekha to 2 baap ke aulad
Hafeez Syed with a jacket and an accent!
If You Keep Saying ''Kashmir Kashmir'' Your Situation Will Only Keep Worsening You Guys Don't Learn ...
@akhtrzaman4955
2 ай бұрын
Your situation isn't fantastic on Kashmir either. You're actually stuck in the worst now living on propaganda after article 370 😂
@srijandatta287
2 ай бұрын
@@akhtrzaman4955 Really, how many protests are going on in pakistan right now?? Links to videos??
@akhtrzaman4955
2 ай бұрын
@@srijandatta287 Where are internet shutdowns in Endia rite now? If u r asking about Azad Kashmir no one was blinded like cprf hitting pellets in the eyes of IOK Kashmiris.
@akhtrzaman4955
2 ай бұрын
@@srijandatta287 Why r u concerned about Pakistan 🤣? Your politicians raping women, corporates putting harmful chemicals in your food, Hindu Muslim, Hindu khatre main on WhatsApp, not going on 🤣
@srijandatta287
2 ай бұрын
@@akhtrzaman4955 No Internet shutdown right now. Pelts were used and shall be used again if unrest prevails. Simple. You guys just simply k|!! instead. 3 people by rangers on 13th may. A lot more is present, were that came from. Maleeha lodhi in the UN showed a picture claiming to be kashmiri later found to be palestianian. BBC published that news. POK is a $hithole and that's me being polite compared to our J&K. Stop the w@taboutary and answer the questions I actually asked!!
He is a typical Urdu belt Muslim .. very hateful in his heart .. Punjabis and Sindhis aren't by nature so hateful of other people .. these urduwalas have made them also bitter over the period of last 70-80 years (including the years just before the partition).
@bharatchoudhary540
2 ай бұрын
@@curio78 I know what you are thinking .. yes they too have become hateful of others now .. but they weren't like this always .. they were trained to hate by these urduwalas only beginning from 1940 onwards.
@sunilamarwaha3053
2 ай бұрын
Wrong. Punjabi on either side have more hate ghan others.
@ManabDasiammanab
2 ай бұрын
Poonjabis are always radical. LoL. Sindhis are more liberal.
Jinnah left 20 crore pakistanis in India. They are your citizens please invite them. 🪷✌️
@seanchris5781
2 ай бұрын
they been livuing there for thousands of years just like you. who made u a king shit landlord of that area. there is a minority of indians who think like u and when you come as a minority in usa and work in gas stations for minimum wage than ur mind comes down to earth.
Stopping Trade From India is not About Article 370 or Kashmir It is About the Business Interest of Pakistani Businessmen at the Cost 250 Million Pakistanis
Ok so butcher of Calcutta- jinnah (direct action day) 20000 hindus killed was the person known for unity what is this two nation theory ut means we cant live together nothing more 😂😂😂. Justifying partition medivial mindset and backward ideas is so stupid 😂😂
All troubled Indian Muslims should settle in Pakistan as per Mr. Zaidi. Such enlightened podcast.
@w.a.4972
2 ай бұрын
When did he say that? I missed that
@APEXMACHCORPORATION
2 ай бұрын
He said it in last part of podcast, will checl and post
@PanakaluPoonakam
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely and I agree. They should have gone to Pakistan after partition. They are living in India illegally.
After listening to Mosharraf’s ignorant and dangerous thoughts, I remembered a quote “Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
I agree, jinnah should be given Bharat Ratna 👍
@atokimruk937
2 ай бұрын
Are you crazy ? NO. BUT Iff he had done is job properly and fully by getting every Muslim out of present day Bharath and into the two pakistans of 1947, then maybe a Padmashri.
@Takecare55
2 ай бұрын
@@atokimruk937 Jinnah bought us some time by reducing Ms to minority to get our house in order. Also it wasn't the job of jinnah to get Ms out, his job was to create a safeland of Muslims, it was our collective failure when Gandhi was convincing Ms to stay and denying Hs of the land
@TonyStark-mm6qy
2 ай бұрын
@@Takecare55 Gandhi MF - Coming from a Tamilan 🙂
@LunarMonarch-bc5eh
2 ай бұрын
@@atokimruk937He should be given as he took a lot of garbage with him
Jinnah was champion of Hindu Muslim unity. 😂 🤣 It's like saying butcher's are ambassador for non violence. 😂 🤣 😂
@silenthill1035
2 ай бұрын
Mohammad Ali Jinnah WAS a champion of Hindu-Muslim unity BEFORE he realized that Hindu majority will crush Muslim minority's demands, culture, heritage, economy, etc. That bleak assessment turned out to be true.
@avinashmishra7735
2 ай бұрын
@@silenthill1035 Jinnah was so "careful" of the weak Muslims of Hindu majority areas that he clearly asked them to not leave India entirely and let it become Hindu Nation. He was such a bigot that he proposed 2 Nation Theory, brought it into action but opposed complete population exchange to make sure India remains JOINT ACCOUNT (Dar-Al-Harb) of Hindus and Muslims and Pakistan becomes PEROSNAL ACCOUNT of Muslims. He was such a cunning man to ask for partition of India beacuse the Indian subcontinent as a whole was Hindu majority but didn't want partition of Punjab and Bangladesh because those provinces were Muslim majority. He also made a deal with Christians of Punjab to support the creation of Pakistan in the name oF Abrahmic brotherhood but never gave them equal position in the society. Infact he deliberately disallowed many Hindus and Christians to cross the border and come to India because he thought he would use them for bargaining with India and also use them for sanitary workers. He was such a pedophile that he ran away with the daughter of his Parsi friend and converted her to Islam but was not happy to see his own daughter marry a Parsi. He was such a "freedom fighter" that he was never even jailed for an hour by the Britishers. He in fact made the deal with the Britishers of making Pakistan the part of the so called common wealth. He was such an intellectual that he never wrote anything about how to exactly run Pakistan. He was such a deceiver that he made all kinds of false promises to all kinds of Muslims just to pave the way for the disintegration of India. He was such a corrupt and racist that he wanted his private house in Mumbai to not be overtaken by the Govt of India, rather rented to some white men. He was so jealous of the Nehru-Edwina relationship that he even directly asked Mountbatten about it. He was such a hindu hater that he even visited Dalit leaders of that time like Ambedkar and Periyar to further break up India. He was such a MADHARCHOD that he even asked Brithsers to give India in the hands of Muslims because according to him "Brishers took it from Mughals". I can write on and on and on....Only Hindutva can show the world how to deal Islam with Mutual-Respect
@filmwood7979
2 ай бұрын
@@silenthill1035 in reality , all the things you mentioned, were done by majority muslims with minority Hindus in Pakistan & Bangladesh. That bleak statement turned out to be true in both countries, while in majority hindu Bharat these muslims grew in number. Pakistan are bhikharis for a reason 😂
@lol8q
Ай бұрын
this was said by Sarojini Naidu to to flatter Jinnah
@lol8q
Ай бұрын
@@silenthill1035 this was said by Sarojini Naidu to to flatter Jinnah
He is mocking other Pakistanis with an accent while he himself puts on a fake accent - Story of Pakistani society in a nutshell
the guest is a threat to kapil sharma 😅😅
I think Mr. Zaidi should read Abdul gaffar khan (Frontier gandhis) Views on pakistan formation.
@Agnostic-1
2 ай бұрын
Thoda mistake ho Gaya bhaiya frontier Gandhi is Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan (popular as'bacha Khan' in Pakistan) india's first foreigner 'Bharat Ratna' receiver ❤
@APEXMACHCORPORATION
2 ай бұрын
@@Agnostic-1 thank u corrected
@zigzoog123
2 ай бұрын
zaidi is delusional, there is no hope for him
The Man is greatest Scholar from Labbaik Ya Rasool Allah University. 😂 🤣 😂 Indian must promote these kind of guy they're biggest asset of India in pak. 😂 His ideas is making sure pakistan will continue in dol drum 🥁. 😂 🤣 😂
@rajvanshsingh8165
2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In fact, it was jinnah who started first official violence on partition via direct action day in kolkata (calcutta) at least 20000 Hindus were killed in one day, it was later that Hindus and much later Sikhs was started responding tit for tat (which pakistani media only conveniently talks about), today Muslims being divided in sub continent has only reduced Muslims power in world affairs.
@bhavinsampat590
2 ай бұрын
They don't loke logic. They love delusional theory.
@APEXMACHCORPORATION
2 ай бұрын
@@bhavinsampat590 there's a book on pakistan by that name.
@APEXMACHCORPORATION
2 ай бұрын
Book is magnificent delusions
@silenthill1035
2 ай бұрын
Mohammad Ali Jinnah WAS a champion of Hindu-Muslim unity BEFORE he realized that Hindu majority will crush Muslim minority's demands, culture, heritage, economy, etc. That bleak assessment turned out to be true.
@APEXMACHCORPORATION
2 ай бұрын
@@silenthill1035 It does not justify inciting violence, as I informed not only 20000 Hindus where killed but first train of dead bodies and reports of entire sikh villages routed came then Sikhs and Hindus did tit for tat, so it is Jinnah who created mess that is Partition , you can't justify his hindu Muslim unity as it carries zero value in front of what he committed.
Mental Wreck.😢😢😢😢😢
I love these Pakistani fake accent
Zinnah nd Unity 😂😂😂 Kya foonktA hai bey ?
@zigzoog123
2 ай бұрын
phook phook ke dimaag dhuen mai ud gaya
@HOG1070
2 ай бұрын
But maal 1 number hoga.... result of the maal is evident here 😂😂😂😂
IMF iski accent se khush hoke har baar pakistani kashkol main bailout khairaat de deta hai.
Why you want to deal with India...wanted a separate country so now enjoy 😂
Oh, what a glorious ode to freedom! Here's this fine individual, extolling the virtues of liberty in Pakistan, while delicately sidestepping the inconvenient truth that his Baloch sister's brothers mysteriously disappeared, courtesy of the Pak Army or ISI. Clearly, freedom reigns supreme! Haha...
@zigzoog123
2 ай бұрын
haven’t seen this much crap coming out of somebody’s mouth
Jinna ran away with his friend's daughter who was 15 years old. The girls father trusted him and let him into his home. This is a fact.
From India my reading of the situation is until and unless Pak Army goes to Barrack, no normal relationship is possible between India and Pakistan. Pak Army's existance is dependent on Dushmani with India. Pak Army has to create a security state for unconstitutional control over Pakistan. India has taken right policy. Just ignore Pakistan. Let Pakistan live happily.
@Agnostic-1
2 ай бұрын
Mera Dil ki baat aapne bata dia❤❤❤ Pakistani aap apne khush raho,hum indian apne main, no need for relationship between india - pakistan. God bless you pakistani from my heart 😀
At the outset, let it be clear that speaking in Americanised accent doesn't make one a wise person ! Mr Jinha was a beef eating n wine drinking British Agent He eloped with teenage daughter of his Parsi mentor and was enjoying life London. He was roped in by british secret service from there and put on the job of creating a buffer state between Russian empire and british empire. It is because of this reason that he commands no respect any where in the world but in Pakistan !!
I like Jinna. He separated scrap from India.
The ability to do doublespeak when he said jinnah is for unity is surprising
Kashmir is an integral part of India.
Pakistani must follow him to the last word and become the leader of Muslim world
@zigzoog123
2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@avinashmishra7735
2 ай бұрын
This joker will be the first one to reject anything like CAA-equivalent in Pakistan
@chaitanya9229
2 ай бұрын
He Is the next zaid Hamid 😂
When questioned about the constitution of Pakistan in 1947 ,Jinnah replied that this had been written 1400 years ago in the form Quran .Before partition of India he had said that give me Pakistan or I would dismember India in so many pieces. Off course Jinnah waa the best human being this world every had.
If i am not wrong Jinah's Sister was called traitor and was under house arrest till she died. If Jinah's sister suffered in Pakistan then I guess what Jinah thought or said for minority hardly matters.
The guest perhaps most of the life spent time in Europe.😂 Ignorant about ground realities.
In Pakistan if you have good English accent then u can become foreign minister too...
Thank Jinnah for getting these zombies away from Bharat.
Imagine onions at PKR 300 - 250 Per kg & India ke saath trade mat karo as per Mr. Zaidi, it seems he is pure elite.
@zigzoog123
2 ай бұрын
you want trade, we don’t want anything to do with you, for us you don’t even exist
@APEXMACHCORPORATION
2 ай бұрын
I am just pointing out audacity of Mr. Zaidi.
boot polish
Jinnah was a blessing in disguise for the then Bharat, who took so many radical Muslims in Pakistan. Otherwise India at present would have been in turmoil. Bangladesh should also treat Jinnah as father of their nation because in 1948 he said in Dhaka that only Urdu will be the national language of entire Pakistan. I have lived with Indian Bengali for 5 years from where I came to know that they love their culture ( including their language) more than their religion. And so Jinnah cultivated the desire of break up of that Pakistan in 1948 ,and 1971 he succeeded although after his demise.
The oversized pak army won every election and lost every war
Wise talk. Nonsense. Pipe dream. Talk India Pakistan wall. Now point of no return. Discuss how high ? 🤣
@noobanimation8503
2 ай бұрын
English nhi ata to bolta kyu hai
What does this guy talks he even wudnt able to understand . He talks in two different poles in same sentence 😂😂😂
What's happening in kashmir.... What's happening ??? KASHMIR OBSESSION KASHMIR OBSESSION KASHMIR OBSESSION
Mosharraf Zaidi - You Guys are on the Right Track... taking the Country DOWN HILL faster than Before!
If QEA Jinnah was biggest champion of Muslim- Hindu cause then Mr. Zaidi is best spinner in Pakistan and deserves a place in pk squad for WT20. I am glad that zaidi could bravely speak for our baloch sister but i can say for sure that he won't be able to speak about Young Pakistani boy who died in Sydney knife attack while saving lives of many women and children and gave us rare Pakistani hero in western countries just because he was born into Ahmediyya Muslim community.
Knowledge 0% Wisdom 0% Intellect 0% Comprehensive analysis 0% Lahori churan 100%✅ Madarssachhap analysis 100%✅ Attitude 100%✅ Fake accent 100%✅
@akshay_wakodikar
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely
Pok is nightmare for Pakistan army they go to 1971 recent condition 54kill on open fire by Pakistani
"new delhi doesn't trust Pakistan". Give the "why" a thought. Mumbai, Kargil... Unfortunately there is a list starting in 1965 and earlier... Yes India doesn't trust Pakistan. If that slate could be wiped clean and there were believable assurances for the future, there is a future... There is a Lot of goodwill for the people of Pakistan among the Indians of all religions.
@zigzoog123
2 ай бұрын
we don’t trust liars
@hkpandey1
2 ай бұрын
No, there is not a lot of goodwill for Pakistanis (of Pakistan or Bharat)... don't delude yourself (and them) by saying that...a lot of tolerance and maybe, even acceptance , yes...goodwill, no... Now most Bharatiyas are well aware of the poison and contempt that they have been forced-fed through their religious ideology and clergy against non-believers/ kafirs in general and Bharat/ Hindus in particular... and the ultimate plans that their religion obligates them to nuture for kafirs and kafir societies... The young generation of Bharat has no real connection or sentimental feelings of connection with Pakistan.... they're apathetic to this eastern neighbour and see them more as an impediment and nuisance than as an entity to know more about and befriend... that's the broader truth...
Jinnah is best person for hindu Muslim unity, tells more about knowledge of Mr. Zaidi. 😵 There should be permanent enemity with India, India created breakup that made Pakistan, I have never heard such enlightened podcast 😑
@silenthill1035
2 ай бұрын
Mohammad Ali Jinnah WAS a champion of Hindu-Muslim unity BEFORE he realized that Hindu majority will crush Muslim minority's demands, culture, heritage, economy, etc. That bleak assessment turned out to be true.
@APEXMACHCORPORATION
2 ай бұрын
@@silenthill1035 Oh, if true, then how strong Pakistan is economically to protect Muslims (oops they can't talk about gaza openly) , maybe if bangladesh was with Pakistan economically it would not be in this mess today , but yes pak. Unofficially killed a million bengali Muslims, culturally (oops 90% mughal sites are in India still standing), ever seen Muslims in India in forbes 500 (Azim Premji ), please don't go by your media reports, yes, there are issues but they are blown way out of proportion by your media, even Indian Muslims have commented to Pakistanis about this in social media, rather even bleaker is the inter community Muslim fights in Pakistan (deobandi vs barelvi bombings ), sunni vs Shia, ahemadiyyas is banned etc.
@silenthill1035
2 ай бұрын
@@APEXMACHCORPORATION Sachar Committee Report is Indian Government report, not Pakistani media report. Those are undisputed facts, not mere words which someone said. The numbers of Bengalis killed by Pakistan army are not correct. Read the research by Sharmila Bose in her book Dead Reckoning. She is an Indian as well. As far as Palestine is concerned, Palestinians will win regardless of what Pakistan does.
@APEXMACHCORPORATION
2 ай бұрын
@@silenthill1035 regarding number of bengalis killed it is certainly a genocide and a high numbers, it remains muddled because no one cares for bangladesh back then US President called it Basket Case, US and China both hid actual news of genocide and ignored it on world forum, the figure I believe is around 2 - 2.4 million at least, with highest estimate 3 million plus, mostly Hindus where killed and then Muslims, point being Muslims were not protected by formation of Pakistan.
@avinashmishra7735
2 ай бұрын
@@silenthill1035 Jinnah was so "careful" of the weak Muslims of Hindu majority areas that he clearly asked them to not leave India entirely and let it become Hindu Nation. He was such a bigot that he proposed 2 Nation Theory, brought it into action but opposed complete population exchange to make sure India remains JOINT ACCOUNT (Dar-Al-Harb) of Hindus and Muslims and Pakistan becomes PEROSNAL ACCOUNT of Muslims. He was such a cunning man to ask for partition of India beacuse the Indian subcontinent as a whole was Hindu majority but didn't want partition of Punjab and Bangladesh because those provinces were Muslim majority. He also made a deal with Christians of Punjab to support the creation of Pakistan in the name oF Abrahmic brotherhood but never gave them equal position in the society. Infact he deliberately disallowed many Hindus and Christians to cross the border and come to India because he thought he would use them for bargaining with India and also use them for sanitary workers. He was such a pedophile that he ran away with the daughter of his Parsi friend and converted her to Islam but was not happy to see his own daughter marry a Parsi. He was such a "freedom fighter" that he was never even jailed for an hour by the Britishers. He in fact made the deal with the Britishers of making Pakistan the part of the so called common wealth. He was such an intellectual that he never wrote anything about how to exactly run Pakistan. He was such a deceiver that he made all kinds of false promises to all kinds of Muslims just to pave the way for the disintegration of India. He was such a corrupt and racist that he wanted his private house in Mumbai to not be overtaken by the Govt of India, rather rented to some white men. He was so jealous of the Nehru-Edwina relationship that he even directly asked Mountbatten about it. He was such a hindu hater that he even visited Dalit leaders of that time like Ambedkar and Periyar to further break up India. He was such a MADHARCHOD that he even asked Brithsers to give India in the hands of Muslims because according to him "Brishers took it from Mughals". I can write on and on and on....Only Hindutva can show the world how to deal Islam with Mutual-Respect
Narendra Modi official father of Pakistan 😎💪😈
@Kenol881
2 ай бұрын
Not modi it is IMF
@suman902
2 ай бұрын
Wrong , it's China. Pakistan has multiple baps it seems. Needs a DNA test.
@silenthill1035
2 ай бұрын
Do you know who was your father ?
@boss-33
2 ай бұрын
@@silenthill1035 we know our father's name , do you know your grandfather's name ? Ask your father.but i am sure It will RAMU,MAHENDRA,SURENDRA ,SURESH ,MAHESH ,.. 95% pakistani converted Talked like arab😂😂😂😂 Cheema ,chaudhary,rajput, gujar,bhat,jatt,shah, malik These all yours grandfather surname 😂😂😂😂
@silenthill1035
2 ай бұрын
@@boss-33 It doesn't matter whether someone is converted or not. If you converted to Islam today, you'll be just as precious to me as any other Muslim. That was not the point at all. What do you know mean by "We" though? Does every Indian knows their father's name ?
This ganja is living with partition hatred
No doubt the partition of india in 1947 was agonizing heart-wrenching and costly in lives snd material.But in retrospect it was the for the best for the formationof present day India.
@1525boy
19 күн бұрын
Worst thing to happen.
Get better guests please. I didn’t understand anything he was trying to say.
Brother it's a Result of Indian Policies ( Both Positive and Negative ) that Young People Don't want to Be Pakistani Anymore The Positive Policies Being - 1. Growing our GDP , 2. Growing Our Forex Reserves, 3. Curbing on Corruption and Black Money, 4. Growing International Influence through Dr. Jaishankar, 5. Building Trust and a Favourable Business Environment In India Negative Policies ( from Pak Perspective ) Being - 1. Not talking to Pakistan, 2. Not Allowing Pakistani Artists in India, 3. Not Restarting India-Pakistan Cricket, 4. New Fifth Generation War as You said ( in response to Pakistan Continuing its Policy of Terror, and thinking that there would be no consequences ), 5. So listen bro I'm a BJP supporter from India, and we don't Hate you. But that doesn't mean you get a Free Hand to impose your ideology on us or Send State Sponsored Bad Actors to India or using your ISI Mafia network for destabilizing Activities. Now that you're getting a Pushback you all are crying. If you would have never messed with us in the 1st place, we could be living together epacefully and 100 % Pakistan would never have to go to IMF and would have sufficient Forex Reserves. So I would change the 1st sentence of my Comment and say that, It's Actually the Result of the Policies undertaken by your Oversmart Elite which has led young Pakistanis to not want to call themselves as Pakistanis.
@zigzoog123
2 ай бұрын
kyon itna mirchi laagate ho 🔥😂
@baazinews1027
2 ай бұрын
I will add 1 more point which is, That we Indians are now friends with Arab Sheikhs which makes Sunni Pakistani Muzlims Feel Sad That Their Abbus Cheated on them With Indians 😂
@baazinews1027
2 ай бұрын
@@zigzoog123 Aise Hee Mazaa Aata Hai 🤗
Indian subcontinent is naturally designed in a way that no part if separated can survive or flourish, same thing is happening to 4 provinces forming present Pakistan
Jinnah, a chameleon not a champion of unity. He was just a stooge of the British, who saw in him a deal breaker in the partition. His direct action day call annihilated lakhs of lives and an eternal hatred between the newly formed countries. He refused to interfere and give a stop call to the violent mobs in Pakistan who were killing Sikhs and Hindus unlike Gandhi who toured the affected areas without chappals and without security putting his life in danger for the sake of muslims. Jinnah was relaxing with a cigar and a glass of wine in his hand chewing piece of ham, as usual. He never went to jail and was always enjoying his life like the guest and talking about an elusive country formed on the basis of hatred.
who stopped trade btwn India and Pak ?
Guest is from Dilulu area of Islamabad 😅
Zip Off Talibani😮😮😮😮
Find someone who is so disillusioned by you as he is by Jinnah!
bechara shia muslim hai sunni pakistan me extra prove krna padata haI
@silenthill1035
2 ай бұрын
Fake news.
“Jinnah was the greatest champion for Hindu muslim unity,,,Ye Pak studies Mai hai, Esko deny Nagi kar Saket” . 😅😅😅 can’t deny “Pakistan studies” An oxymoron if there was any . With this kind of so called intellectuals calling their own country a valuable plot of land there no need look for enemies outside.
Pakistan studies not-withstanding, let us look at three of Jinnah's misjudgements (if not outright stupidities) 1. while he himself was a liberal Muslim (wining & dining) and had adopted Hindu-Muslim plank, felt sidelined by arrival of Gandhi on the scene (opposed Gandhi on Khialaft movement for mixing religion with politics) and took U-turn to the extent of calling Direct Action (open invitation for communal violence and polrisation) to ensure relevance for self. 2. To achieve Pakistan he promised everything to every one (Secular democratic setup to liberals and Islamic state to Islamists) and had no clear cut plan for his Pakistan (at least did not put it down in ink). 3. Acceepted Junagadh's succession one one hand and Invaded Kashmir on the other; despite having a stand-still agreement. Starting; thus far, a never ending dispute! 4. He then went ahead and tried imposing Urdu (a non Indegenous language) on East Pakistan sowing the seeds of secession. Some people are born great, others become great and very fewhave greatness thrust upon them; Jinnah falls closer to third category.
Pakistan stopped trade and withdrew High Commissioner from India. What urgency India has to start trade with Pakistan ?
Jinnah didn’t care how “Pakistan” turned out.
Jinnah was only his own ambassador. He could not love even his daughter. She ran away to India where her family are very big Bussiness family.
Calling jinnah champion of Hindu-Muslim unity is like calling KFC well wisher of chickens 😂
Jinnah had no plan for Pakistan . He was a lawyer and hired to job . He did that job and did not think or plan anything .
Pakistan should now focus on Red Fort in NewDelhi as the new capital
What kind of "best ever ambassador of Hindu Muslim unity in history" Jinnah was when he ordered the Direct Action Day in 1946 resulting in the death of thousands of Hindus in Bengal?
Mosharraf Zaidi is coming from a Muhajir background. I believe his family were native Urdu speakers who originate from either Dehli or U.P. “Pakistan” exists because of people like them.
Pakistan is always confused 😂
The main problem is that you want your leaders to take decision on the sense of crowd on street's that burn people alive.
2,hr with ishtiaq ahmed masterclass is required
I frm india think that Jinnah loved india very much. Bcoz he kept his lovely porpeorty in mumbai as it is to return later. But before that he tried to seperate the garbage from india into seperate land called pakistan. Though its sad that he died before he cud return to india again
'Without National Security Pakistan fails' If this is the mindset of an so called economist, then hell with the economy. 😂😂😂
Jinnah had NO INTENTION of Hindu-Muslim unity. The partition and creation of “Pakistan” was the absolute worst thing to happen to the Muslims of Bharat.
Hes like an extremely articulate version of Zaid Hamid 😃
"Dominant political lifeblood" of India. 😂 Despite all you hear in the vested media against Modi, it is ridiculous ridiculous that you believe this. Pity. You otherwise sounded like a well read person. I'm not a Modi fan. He had little finesse, but this media hype isn't true, sir!
2010 IPL auction was fantastic. 2023 women premier league auction was fantastic.
Thank You Jinnah, for taking so called intellectuals like Zaidi. I agree with him to make Pakistan spend more on military and not on health, infrastructure, education, sports
🤣 this guy was policy advisor for Pakistan Govt , india is truly blessed
Fair conversation with who?? PM, ISI, Taliban, Army or civil society.. Pakistanis are always looking outward for all the problems.
He is a Pakistani intellectual,, congratulations and all the very is best . .😂😂😂😂😂
Goodwill of Pakistani is most important and actual rulers may not be interested for business. They may feel Indians are enemies by birth.
This guy has some nuanced thoughts about things...👍👍👍
Definition of delulu that a slick accent cannot cover up.
Why should India should extend friendship hand with you ??? After you conducted Mumbai blast, Punjab N Kashmiri terrorisim !!!
I am scared if there is cross boarder movement ever with Pakistan. We need strong boarder to keep them out
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅🤯 “the single greatest articulator and champion for Hindu Muslim unity” what fucking joke
It is Pakistan which broke trade relationships with India(after removal of Art 370), and now you expect India to extend the olive branch? For the long term, even after Modi became the PM, India gave Pakistan the most favoured nation status. Modi travelled to Sharif's granddaughter's wedding. What did India get in return? Pakistan stalled every development talks in SAARC meetings. India proposed a common highway for SAARC countries and Pakistan vetoed it. This led to India abandoning SAARC and instead focus on BIMSTEC. And again you come here and talk about India not cooperating for trade. Seriously?
So naive of comparing Israel-Gaza with India-Pakistan. The latter don’t want to be together but Indians want to be together in Peace with Pakistanis, even as separate countries, like we existed for 5000 years before 1947.
Brother, you are in a confusion to compare Gaza with Kashmir . Given an opportunity, whole POK would like to join with Indian Kashmir.
Keep it up. I'm Having a great time while listening to your podcast.Respect 🙏
@Howdoesitworkpodcast
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