Would you consider Micro 4/3 in 2024?

@lensman5762

Ай бұрын

As far as this camera the D-Lux 8 is concerned it is not a an MFT camera. The camera uses only 85% of the area of the MFT sensor. The answer to your question is a very positive yes. After nearly 50 years of photography with film in all formats, and digital since 1999, I can tell you that 99.9% of photographers of today do not need more than 24 MP, or any larger sensor than an MFT. The rest is in the head of the photographer, always thinking that somehow more MPs on a larger sensor and more features of which 90% are frivolous to a photographer's needs, will make them a better photographer. There is nothing further than the truth. I have commented on you tube several times in the past few months, that some of the most breathtaking landscape photography that I have seen in the print of about 24X16 size, were done by some guy with a Nikon D700 and a bunch of old Nikon AI-S lenses. That is a 12 MP camera of nearly 18 years of age and some old lenses that were nearly 50 years old. I think Leica are aiming this camera as a sweetener to the photographer who wants the red badge, but is either unable or unwilling to pay the steep price of the Qs and the Ms. Once they are in with a Leica, they will probably have to upgrade to the Q or even the M in the near future. This is the prime reason of giving an old tech like the LX100II innards a mini Leica M body, so they feel they are part of the Leica family. Would I buy it? Not at the asking price, it is 30%~40% overpriced. at around a $1000.00, maybe, at the asking price, NO.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

@@lensman5762 Yes, I mentioned that the camera doesnt use the true 22MP only 17mp which is what the lens covers. I agree with you, I've shot with 1" sensor Sony cameras and taken some of my favorite images.

@RonScibilia

Ай бұрын

@@lensman5762 Not too long ago I bought a used Sony RX10, the original version, for around $400. The sensor is a bit smaller, yes (1", 20MP), but it has a Zeiss 24-200 f/2.8 (constant aperture) zoom lens. The photo quality of this unit is excellent. I think good 1" cameras are the real competition. You can get the latest RX10 for around $1200, and that camera does it all.

@9Mtikcus

Ай бұрын

@@lensman5762 I was about to write something similar, would i consider M43 in 2024 yes, but not a crop of M43 based on 7year old technology in a new wrapper. Leica could of used the G9II sensor with PDAF and all the modern features, and re-built the lens to cover the full sensor... or just offered the camera with a fixed focal length. As far as printing goes, I print professionally, and viewing distance dictates the resolution required, but at a normal viewing distance I'd happily print a good 12MP image to 20" x 16" , but the more resolution the more possibility, I'd never refuse more MP I may be biased as a Fuji X100VI owner, but if giving the chance to swap the X100VI for this, I'm keeping my X100VI 100% of the time. This is over priced and to me, looks like a cash grab by someone in marketing by putting a 7 year old camera in a new wrapper that looks like the Q, knowing that people (not necessarily photographers) are paying £1500-£2000 for the X100VI to use as a fashion accessory they will probably pay that much for a Leica too, I feel most photographers will skip this (at least the ones I know) and either try and get something else

@henrytong8707

Ай бұрын

This camera is marketed mostly to "content creators" who knows nothing about cameras but use them only as fashion accessories. It will look good around some influencer's neck doing TikTok.

This is a great review of the D-Lux 8. Well done!

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Thank you for this video. I happened to own the deluxe 7 model And considering the size of the sensor the quality is incredible Glad that like a is continuing with this type and adds additional features. Congratulations with the spots you picked in Zurich you hit the highlights of that city.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Thanks man.

Thank you for the video and the detail 👍🏽

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

appreciate it!

@KristianDowling

Ай бұрын

FYI the DxLux 7 had a RAW DNG option and it was very good too

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

@@KristianDowlingyea. I meant to say didn’t have DNG.

Thanks for the review! What's your experience with dust in the lens? Because I read that the D-Lux 7 had this problem, did they fix it?

@GastonShutters

7 күн бұрын

No idea because I don’t have my DLux 7 and did not experience that issue in the week I had with the camera

You didn't talk about the EVF. Does it reflect changes you make to exposure in real time and changes you make in shutter, aperture and ISO?

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

I did talk about it. these is a two part video, check the part one. Yes you preview live the exposure changes.

Can the format be set to 1:1, is there a multiple exposure feature and lastly this model seems to be a Leica upgrade version of the Lumix dmc lx100. After a number of years of use my Lumix lx100 started have dust issues due to the lens gaskets wearing out.

@GastonShutters

28 күн бұрын

Yes you can setup aspect ration 1:1, I did not check multi exposure feature. It has some upgrades as new EVF, new Design, Touch new menus and Screen. Hardwre seems to be the same.

Good video, thx. Has the D-Lux 8 some Leica Looks installed, for example as the new Leica LUX app, especial in b&w?

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

It has the regular profiles like the vivid, high contrast monochrome, etc. No Leica looks

You certainly made some great images with the camera. They looked great. Probably a camera I would buy if money was no object. But there are better options for the same money.

@GastonShutters

25 күн бұрын

Yes. For the money you can get more camera these days

Are those pics straight out of camera or is there a preset? I like the colors and to me looked very leica styled. I just bought the q2. Great videos by the way I’m a fan of your channel

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Most of them are with exposure adjustment and white balance. Some others a bit boosted. I have a free preset pack on my Instagram link on my bio Instagram.com/gastonshutters

I owned and loved the DL7 and shot only RAW. I’m perplexed as to why folks, including yourself are saying that it didn’t.

@GastonShutters

27 күн бұрын

I meant to say DNG, my mistake the D lux 7 shoots RWL which are a bit larger in files .

How does it compare to the sony RX100 series? Any preference between the two?

@GastonShutters

26 күн бұрын

Rx100 more versatile with great video specs. This one is a better photo camera, better handling and battery life.

Hi, just tried it at the Leica store in Geneva, but I am still wondering if there’s a Lumix equivalent like the 7?

@GastonShutters

23 күн бұрын

Hardware wise is the same. Software, screen, ergonomics, body and evf upgraded.

Hi, was dust proofing improved (D-Lux 7 and Panasonic LX100 suffered from dust on sensor... And you can't remove the lens to clean it) ? Same lens it seems, so I'm concerned no attention has been paid solving this major flaw... Can you elaborate on that please? 🙃

@GastonShutters

27 күн бұрын

I have not received any information regarding dust proofing nor I was able to find it online with the limited info that's being published. The camera looks more sealed than before and it should be able to sustain a drizzle.The lens is not removable.

For some, the camera's ability to use DNG is a key point. Do you know if modern software such as DxO PureRaw 4 or Topaz AI can process the D-Lux7 raw files to make it as good as the DNG coming out of the D-Lux8? Or does using that sort of software on the DNG files significantly improve them in terms of detail resolution etc?

@GastonShutters

28 күн бұрын

Good question, that I can't answer.

I wonder if the SD Card is UHS-II or just the plain UHS-I. Thanks!

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

I didn't check but it doesn't matter as the low size of files and weak video codec will not gain anything from faster read write speed.

would it be possible to attach a uv/cpl filter on the lens?

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

I believe so because it has threading in front of the lens

@gurra1964

24 күн бұрын

Yes, filter size 43 mm

@GastonShutters

21 күн бұрын

Correct

Hi, Gaston, thanks for both Part 1 & 2. Really useful up the learning curve. Could you please indicate how to deactivate touch screen focusing. Can the placement and size of the focus point be set before doing this? Stay well.

@GastonShutters

10 күн бұрын

Yes that’s what I did. I don’t have the camera anymore but I think it was inside camera setting/ touch function. But don’t recall it exactly.

Will it come with a lens hood and what is the millimeter size for a circular polarizer?

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

I don’t know that info and returned the camera already to Leica

@rafaellorenzodeleon

27 күн бұрын

The lens looks the same as its predecessors, if so, filter thread will be 43mm

@GastonShutters

27 күн бұрын

it is the same lens

Would like to see how it will preform with the flash that come with the camera

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

I'll be testing that as soon as I can

Good video ! The pictures that you showed are edited or straight out of the camera ?

@GastonShutters

20 күн бұрын

Edited

@Thejs1234a

18 күн бұрын

For 17 MP the pictures seem really sharp it’s impressive

@GastonShutters

17 күн бұрын

Yeah. I think less MP and good optics will always render an image sharper.

What focal length does it default to upon startup? widest or longest focal length?

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Widest end

@12barko

Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters are you able to defult to 50mm equilent for example? thanks for the video!

@joemama2151

Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters Thank You for quick reply

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

any time

Is this camera primarily metal or plastic in construction?

@GastonShutters

29 күн бұрын

Feels metallic.

Good review. I gotta few questions for you. 1. Will it fit in a pants pocket of a pair of Levi’s or cargo shorts? 2. How fast can you remove from a pocket (large enough to easily remove) and shoot? I want an every day carry but not hang on my neck. 3. How large a print, on tripod, without noticeable grain from 6’ viewing distance?

@GastonShutters

27 күн бұрын

1- I don't know your pants size if you are a 32 like me I say yes. But I prefer to carry my cameras with a strap. 2- If pocket is not tight fast enough without dropping the camera. Always put a laniard 3- I have not print photos from it. But you should be able to obtain a nice image at 24-36 which anything about 10MP should print good.

How do you find the toggle zoom. Is it slow?

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Slow.

@jmtphotographymedia

Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters that's a bummer.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

yeah i forgot to talk about that. But I have a follow up video wrapping up my conclusions.now that I'm reviewing more photos, and videos I shot with it. Ended up shooting close to 4000 images at the end of the day. And I have to admit that some of them are my favorite photos of the this trip.

Id love to see photo examples compared between this and the ricoh gr iii

@GastonShutters

2 күн бұрын

Good idea. Once I get my own copy I will do that

Thanks for your review. Your sample shots look very good. Given that it’s only a 17mp sensor, how much can you crop the image before it starts degrading? That would be my main concern (not that I ever to extremes!)

@GastonShutters

28 күн бұрын

It all depends how large you want to print. But you can crop efficiently 25% more or less and you'll still retain details and probably get some decent prints. I wouldn't push it too much though

@BenSussmanpro

23 күн бұрын

@@GastonShutters Thanks for replying! I know that different sensors may have different tolerances.

@GastonShutters

21 күн бұрын

@BenSussmanpro You are welcome !

I felt your informal but thorough style of review is spot on for this camera…I have used Leicas and one thing they did for me was to elevate my photography through great lens optics, and what I call ‘positive engagement’ ie the user experience is just a blast. So my question is does the D-Lux 8 do that for you?

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Honestly, owning a Q2 and now Q3 this camera has a pseudo experience but the image quality and optics are not there. I don't see the leica optical look. For $1500 there are far more capable cameras today.

@jobolton6910

Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters Any suggestions for a more capable camera with a built in zoom lens?

@GastonShutters

29 күн бұрын

Sony RX100 VII or VI

How can you compare this to the Ricoh GRIII and the Fujifilm x100V? Both of these got an APSC sensor and is either cheaper or at the same price. The D-lux8's got a micro 4/3 sensor from at least 6 years ago.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

In my prior video and social media people asked me what I think of them. That’s why I said they cannot be compared. Fixed apsc vs zoom M4/3

@davidgates3044

29 күн бұрын

@@GastonShuttersok I get that the Leica has a zoom lens and the Ricoh doesn’t. But let’s talk image quality. I had the Panasonic version of the 7 and now have Ricoh GRiii. Frankly, the image quality of the Ricoh is superior. The 24 mp apsc sensor just delivers better quality than the 17 mp micro 4/3s. So there is a comparison- the zoom on the d lux vs the better image quality and lower price (not to mention IBIS) of the Ricoh

@GastonShutters

29 күн бұрын

Yeah the image quality and lens quality of the Ricoh is outstanding. Not having an EVF is an issue for me on the Ricoh. But agreed. Sensor and image quality the Ricoh is top. But when I pic a camera to me the whole overall experience matter. Having an evf, a battery that last me for 3 hours non stop, zoom option, it’s I find the D Lux 7 a better companion 2nd camera than the Ricoh. That’s just personal preference.

Did they say anything about improved weather sealing? Dust on the sensor was one of the issues with the LX100 series.

@GastonShutters

9 күн бұрын

No news about weather sealing

Did the IQ got better than the DL7 to the Lumix LX100II that I've? Wondering if upgrade is worthy?

@GastonShutters

20 күн бұрын

Same great image quality I would say

@domipro123

20 күн бұрын

@@GastonShutters So, no upgrade...

@GastonShutters

20 күн бұрын

@domipro123 same sensor same color. However now it has DNGs which may be slightly better to edit that RWL prior raw format. But didn’t notice anything. I think the Image quality was great to begin with on the DLux 7

Really good review - an excellent overview. It's maybe a bit ''spen and last-gen,' but I still think there's a lot to like here. For me this would be a fun, casual prop for occasions where a bigger or manual camera was inappropriate/inconvenient. Bigger sensor than an RX100; physically smaller than a X100; EVF presence over GR; cheaper, smaller, quicker than a Q3... It seemed to handle low light pretty well?

@GastonShutters

28 күн бұрын

Low light did pretty good. Having a not too crammed MP helps with low light even being a crop M4/3

is it still contrast AF? or hybrid?

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Contrast for what I known

The D-lux 7 has RAW, so I don't know why people get so excited about the 8 having DNG as the two formats don't differ much really!? I can't compare the menus exactly, but the 8 seems to be missing a few features like custom WB that applies to RAW, which I find very useful.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

I meant to say DNGs not raw the DL7 has RWL which are a bit larger in format.

hallo Gaston, I would like to ask what was the focusing speed?

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

You meant the mode? I toggled between Zone and face

@romanpastierik

Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters I meant focusing from near point to far point...

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Fast

How are the high iso capabilities?

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

up to ISO 25600 pretty capable, even at night. Never found a situation where the noise made the image unusable. Check out the night shots included here

@Damon_Mah

23 күн бұрын

@@GastonShuttersgreat fotos!

@GastonShutters

17 күн бұрын

Thanks man

What's the filter size?

@GastonShutters

17 күн бұрын

43mm

I have the Q2 Monochrome. I would get the Lux 8 as my colour option/backup camera

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

That would be a nice combo

@TonyEbikemeJr

11 күн бұрын

@@GastonShutters the Lux 8 comes with a flash! Will that work with other Leica cameras do you think?

@GastonShutters

10 күн бұрын

Yea it does

How does it compare to PANASONIC LX100II?

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

I've heard is the same, but I haven't used it

Hi! Can you recommend me a camera? My budget is 100-400€ I'd like a compact camera, versatile to try and test what type of photography I like, thanks!

@GastonShutters

28 күн бұрын

Best thing is to go on ebay and search the type of camera you are looking for. Fixed lens, Interchangeable lens, Fixed zoom,??

@JaedoTae

28 күн бұрын

Ricoh GR iii can be had anywhere between 400 to 1100 on eBay. Used x100 series from Fuji also are available if you don't mind used items. If you need zoom, I would buy used Dlux from Leica as options as well

@Perregato-GuacamayoMeetings

28 күн бұрын

Thanks to both, guys 👍

@GastonShutters

28 күн бұрын

Also a Sony RX 100 VII is an amazing camera with more resolution great video specs, tilt screen and mic input!

So, how is it different from the D-lux7?

@GastonShutters

17 күн бұрын

I explain it in my last video I just posted. Just posted a new video about it kzread.info/dash/bejne/amdqx86Sj7zFprA.html

The Leica website says they will be issuing a hand grip for the 8. Those caps that stay on are great! I wish they'd offer them in designs like my 007 camera.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Fingers crossed!

Is it better then the dlux7? would you replace the dlux7 with this new model?

@JohnGalt539

Ай бұрын

Same as replacing iPhone 14 Pro with iPhone 15 pro lol 😂

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

DNG is the main upgrade here.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Kind of

Not sure I got it right, that you stated the D Lux-7 did only allow for shooting JPEG. You can switch to RAW even on that one. At least on mine. 🙂 Beautiful camera, even the D Lux-7. Used it a lot and took it for example to Iceland as my only camera. And got great pictures. So yes, MFT is a good choice for most people. Compact, easy to use and decent picture quality.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

I meant to say DNGs. Yeah the D Lux 7 supports RWL which are larger file raw formats

Had one in my hands last night 🤩

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

How did you like it

@justcallmesando

Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters Not quite happy with how protruding the lens is but I think I can get used to it. The camera just makes you want to carry it every where you go and it´s lovely. I just wanted to see some pics on a computer screen and your video is the closest to it. Thanks for sharing.

@GastonShutters

29 күн бұрын

I will make a follow up video with download images.

@justcallmesando

29 күн бұрын

@@GastonShutters looking forward to it! Thanks

@GastonShutters

20 күн бұрын

Coming soon

Commentators keep on talking about how the sensor is 7 years old. That would worry me in one respect, low light performance. I am currently shooting with the OM-1 MkI and I can go right up to iso12800 and in post processing get very clean and usable images. So, the big question is: what is the IQ like on this camera and in terms of ISO how high would you shoot?

@GastonShutters

23 күн бұрын

There is this notion that a sensor that was great seven years ago is not great seven years after. The Leica M8 which it was one of the first Digital Leicas. Still has one of the best sensors when it comes to color reproduction. A capable photography camera from 10 years ago still a capable camera 10 years after

The battery is similar to the Lumix GX9. I like the look and the menu. The DLux 7 menu is very much like of Lumix cameras.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Totally agree

Hello Gaston, I'm a new subscriber and I enjoy your style and presentation. I'm a dedicated BNW Photographer using the Leica Q2 Monochrom camera. I do a lot of "Visual Note Taking" when I'm out without my Q2M using my iPhone XS Max to keep a record of potential shooting scenes to grab an image with location and time-of-day so I can back to a spot with my Q2 Monochrom. I'm really interested in this Leica DLUX 8 as an EDC to replace my iPhone that would ALWAYS go out with me in my man-bag to take "Visual Notes" and grab the occasional "target of opportunity" image. Lastly, I shoot my Q2M in full Manual mode...so what are your thoughts on the DLUX 8 as my Q2M companion?

@GastonShutters

21 күн бұрын

The Q2M is great. I had the color Q2. Regarding the DLux 8 as a companion can be a great choice for the size. It all depends how large you need your files but for what you are describing it will be perfect. I can’t think of a better camera to be a companion of a Q2M if you want to stay within the brand. I really enjoyed the time with it. While it wouldn’t be replacing my full frame Leicas I can see this camera as an easier carry for certain situations

@davepayne8500

20 күн бұрын

@@GastonShutters Many Thanks For Your Prompt Reply Gaston 🙏🙏📷‼️ The Q2M is simply the best camera I've ever owned for my BNW Photography shooting...and I've used Nikon, Olympus, Ricoh and most recently Fujifilm. As for "staying in the brand", the menu similarities and the focus on Photography fundamentals vs technological "gimmicks" which get in my way tells me Leica is my choice and the DLUX 8 is my way forward as the partner for my Q2M. Now...if only Leica would release more details on the new camera and it's full specifications 🤔🤔😎‼️

@GastonShutters

20 күн бұрын

I think they may be loading the camera with more features than what I was able to test hence why there is not a full spec sheet yet. Leica Looks is probably one of the things they may be trying to incorporate. In fact a must if they attempt to compete with Ricoh and Fuji. I don’t shoot simulations but for that market I think this camera is intended is needed. Another thing that I want to see I proved in final firmware is the AF performance. It was decent but not solid. I did enjoy the camera and I will be getting it

@davepayne8500

20 күн бұрын

@@GastonShutters Again, Many Thanks Gaston for your responses. I've heard that sales start on July 2...but it's unclear if that's retail or only pre-orders. If July 2 is beginning of pre-orders, we might not get the DLUX 8 in-hand until sometime in August😡😡. Also, I'm hoping to get clarity on what will be in the box with the camera and a battery...a hi-speed USB-C cable? The DLUX 8 version of the DLUX 7 auto-open, auto-close lens cap? SD Card? Wrist Strap?

@GastonShutters

17 күн бұрын

No clue. Wondering the same.

what do you tink about video spec.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Not good. Can save you in a pinch, but an Iphone 14-15 would do much better. This is a photo camera.

I'm not convinced that the images from this will that much better than an iPhone15 Pro Max shooting RAW. A little better? Depending on the subject and image, yes. But it's a hard sell for me. I'd step up to the Ricoh or the Fujifilm X100.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

The new iPhone is great. Small sensor but the multi exposure that it does in camera is pretty impressive.

@tommytorres

Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters yes, it is pretty crazy. A few years ago this camera would’ve been a no brainer but 2024… it’s more of a fashion statement. Sure sounds like fun, though.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

It’s capable. It beats the iPhone in the long end at 70mm but you you do be pressed to see the difference some times between the image of these new phone and some of these cameras. I wish that it was apsc. But the lens would’ve been huge. Apsc zoom and compact is almost impossible. Unless is a terrible aperture range.

@Damon_Mah

23 күн бұрын

@@GastonShuttersiPhone 15 Pro Max has 13, 24, 120mm lenses so the D-Lux 8’s 24-75mm (which sounds quite good for most things except ultrawide we’re spoiled with on iPhones) is between the iPhone’s focal lengths

@GastonShutters

21 күн бұрын

In the end a photo is a photo. The camera is a tool. If the phone gets you in photography where you want to be so use an iPhone. As you can see in this video you can get decent bokeh wide open with the DLux 8 and it has a proper EVF something that the iPhone doesn’t and use a lot.

The only thing that is stopping me from thinking about upgrading to the 8 from 7, is the max shutter speed nerf from 1/4000 to 1/2000

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Don’t understand why they cut off 1 full stop of speed. I guess better performance of ES?

@rafaellorenzodeleon

Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters even so. its just a bummer.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Indeed

My D Lux 7 shot RAW… I rarely shot JPG with it.

From the specs and such, seems like it is the exact same thing as 2018's Panasonic LX100-ii? Even the sensor isn't those newer M43 from 2023/24..

@GastonShutters

10 күн бұрын

Sensor and lens remains the same. Body, menu, evf, screen new

@HwL01

10 күн бұрын

@@GastonShutters a 6 yrs old sensor and lens for 1.5k USD seems like a rip off isn’t it.

@GastonShutters

9 күн бұрын

IMO if it was great 6 years ago it’s great today. Not much has change in terms of sensor or image quality honestly.

Sadly these days just don't prefer anything made in china. Don't like the politics of financing things they're doing these days. Made in Japan was fine. Speaking as someone using Leica & panaleica ... Thanks for the video. Good as always

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment.

Doesn’t the DLux7 take RAW images? Were you saying the 7 only takes jpgs?

@joebrown479

Ай бұрын

I just looked around online - the DLux7 does shoot RAW. I think the file name is RWL, not DNG. My wife and daughter both own a DLux7, but I don't know it well enough. I shoot M11. For what it's worth.

@Kusanosuke1

Ай бұрын

The D-LUX 7 and D-LUX Typ 109 do capture RAW images, as RWL files, just as @joebrown479 said. The RWL files are quite flexible for editing in my experience. I honestly don't know if DNG will be any better in Lightroom.

@RobertoOrtizFalagan

Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters This is incorrect. The D-Lux 7 has raw files too. Just not in DNG format.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Could be those files were too compressed still not as much info as on DNG. Me too. M11 all day long. Maybe m11 35 or 50mm and for everything else iPhone 15 🙂

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

For what I was explained is that DNG are more size efficient and store more information.

For the price Leica asks for this DL8 I can buy 2! Sony’s ZV1..,24-70mm f1.8/2.8..

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

That’s true

Some have mentioned that Leica is doing this as a "cash grab," an ornament for TikTok-ers, or a gateway camera into the more expensive Q or M lines. I believe this camera is made for someone that wants portability, a zoom lens, and a unique minimal design. As for the red dot, everyone knows that all Leica cameras come with a "Leica tax" and some are more than happy to pay for it!

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

I have to say that a better sensor, IBIS, Tilt screen and 10 bit video is a must at this price and age.

@glennsak

Ай бұрын

@@GastonShuttersin an ideal world, yes.

@obscurelines

Ай бұрын

It has so much potential, but the sensor needed improving (why not the G9ii sensor then crop to circa 20mpx?). Still, it's fun. I climb mountains and I could imagine this as a lightweight travel camera. I have an old rx100iv and I'd hope this takes slightly better pics.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

it is a really fun to shoot camera. But a crop M4/3 sensor in 2024 is kind of like a joke. This camera needed to be APSC but that would have made the mens bulky. At least a 35mm fix lens with an APSC sensor, a tilt screen and 40 10 bit 4:2:2. But we got non of that.

@petere2799

Ай бұрын

@@GastonShuttersif you compare the size of m43 vs canon aps-c, not much different and (for leica) hardly worth introducing a new sensor to their limited design resources - easier to do a cosmetic refresh on a lumix lx100m2. Biggest issue with this camera is not the sensor, but the fixed screen, poor 4k video with no stabilisation and out-of-date wifi. I own the lx100 since launch date so know this platform well. Great review, nicely presented. 😊

This review should have been more brutal. The only improvements are superficial - making it look more like a Q3 on the outside and menus. The camera is compact… but only when turned off! The lens extension ruins the compact form. The video capabilities do not look great. Keep shooting with the M11, but use your iPhone for wider shots or video. The D-Lux 8 is strictly produced for novice photographers to suck them into the Leica ecosystem. Leica now has an app that makes your iPhone shots look more “Leica”. Will you do a review on the App?

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Not a camera for everybody. Not really reviewing phones. But I would give it a try. Thank you for stopping by

This is Lumix LX100 mk2

@GastonShutters

25 күн бұрын

Sensor and lens is. But ergonomics, evf, screen and software is upgraded. The experience is much better but still not much hardware revamp

@cityproofdad

24 күн бұрын

@@GastonShutters its still not worth 1.5k years after og came out there are better options for the same money

@GastonShutters

24 күн бұрын

It depends where you find value. There are going to be other cameras with much more tech but end of the day is the camera with the whole tech what are a looking for? What I mean by this is that we are at a level in technology where is difficult to find a camera that will produce a bad image. If this is the camera that inspires you to take more photos then the price may not be as bad but if you chase technology and a pony of many tricks then this camera is definitely not.

I love the idea of it, but you just KNOW the D-LUX 9 will have phase-detect auto focus...

@GastonShutters

20 күн бұрын

It’s not reliable yet. Very glitchy

Panasoic LX3 in m4/3

@GastonShutters

17 күн бұрын

Is the Panasonic LX100 III out?

@rycm

17 күн бұрын

@@GastonShutters I doubt that it will come out. The design of D-lux 8 follows on the ID of the the LX3 and the Leica equivalents.

@GastonShutters

17 күн бұрын

Yeah I think Panasonic is going a different route these days.

I agree that this camera can't be compared to the Ricoh or the Fuji X100. It has a zoom lens that the others do not. To me that is its only appeal over the other two. And to be honest, that wouldn't be enough for me to buy it over the Ricoh or the Fuji, especially the X100vi. Bigger sensor. Far higher resolution. I would have zero interest in this faux Leica.

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Yeah, the updates are cosmetics mainly and the EVF but not enough in My opinion to charge 1600 for it. I'm working on another video with my final conclusions. Still going through photos and comparing photos that I tool with my iphone and this camera... I'll save that for that video.

1st

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

Watch it until the end! 😍

@filmzfilmz

Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters ✔️

@GastonShutters

17 күн бұрын

👍

LX100 has ibis

@GastonShutters

29 күн бұрын

I thought it was only optical ?

@jan-martinulvag1953

29 күн бұрын

@@GastonShutters No if you put your ear to the camera you can hear it spinning. Does im stab in the lens also make a buss when it spinns?

@GastonShutters

28 күн бұрын

I think it's optical only,. I do hear that.

Fix skip because only contrast detection no phase detection

@GastonShutters

9 күн бұрын

I said “face” not phase. And did clarify that in the video.

@bangjago283

7 күн бұрын

I think you don't know what I mean, or you don't know what is PDAF

@GastonShutters

5 күн бұрын

It’s been mentioned in the video that it’s only contrast based not Phase Detection.

You did not know some people of the features of the camera, perhaps re-watching what has been posted will help you review and editv

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

I don’t understand what you mean.

@geedee3817

Ай бұрын

@@GastonShutters haha.... i read it twice and still don't understand the question either ;)

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

😁

@wuzcategui

Ай бұрын

Dislexic

I very much doubt you’ve used a previous model (d-lux 7 and previous to that) if you’re suggesting it didn’t have raw. It didn’t have DNG. Thats a huge difference and just makes me think you’re lying about your previous history with this series of cameras to be honest.

@GastonShutters

28 күн бұрын

I meant to say DNG, the previous one had RWL which are heavier raw format and not as efficient for what I hear vs DNG. And yes I'm a camera junky so you can rely on that info.

17 megapixels in 2024? No thank you😂

@GastonShutters

6 күн бұрын

I prefer the form factor to stay small while being better at low light than, cramming more MP. remember even with a M4/3 sensor the lens only covers a portion of the sensor making it effective 17MP out of 21MP and this is due to optical design, otherwise with an APSC sensor the lens would be huge and probably everyone will be complaining of that too. Photographers we are never happy....

Seeking opinions, does this camera good for novice beginner?

@GastonShutters

Ай бұрын

For photography yes. But do your research on other offerings. You may want to start with a camera that you can put the lenses you want. Do your research to get the most bang for the buck