I see what Juice meant when he said the freestyle battle scene was going to die out because of commercialization. The only way to win is if every line you say makes people laugh. In other words, its more of a comedian competition.

@aarong7090

6 жыл бұрын

Really late, but the later scribbles rewarded lyricism.

@ant4613

5 жыл бұрын

I mean, the idea is to diss your opponent. It's about punchlines. Juice's style was outdated at this point, a lot of the stuff he was saying just wasn't hard hitting enough, despite being a consistently good freestyler. He honestly shouldn't have even made it this far into the tournament. I'll die on this hill, plenty of people think he should have beat YMP (likely because he's more well-known/popular) but I disagree.

@ant4613

5 жыл бұрын

Also, just for the record, the 2003 Scribble crowd sucked. They kept booing people for stumbling or not finishing their rhymes as they wanted to, despite them being good. It's a freestyle competition, don't boo unless they actually deserve it. This may not seem relevant, but I also feel like this impacted a lot of the decisions at this tournament. Juice started to get boo'd during the battle with YMP. In earlier battles, that didn't happen because, as I said, he's a consistently good freestyler and never really stumbled.

@GeometryDashYT.

5 жыл бұрын

MC juice is one of the best, but I think from what you’re sayin started even earlier. Even in the later 90’s. if you can bring jokes followed by good punchlines, you were a head in a battle.

@GeometryDashYT.

5 жыл бұрын

Ppl have always loved to see ppl jokes on and humiliated bro

Juice vs fest would have been so epic.

@uncleclem7381

3 жыл бұрын

Would’ve happened in 97 but Rhymefest refused to battle Juice since they were in the same crew. I wonder what he would’ve done in 03

"Say what I'm gunna say next 'give it up for my hypeman!'" Rhymefest made him look like a puppet there lol.

I can't believe this was almost 13 years ago; I was only 16 and 8 Mile was still fresh in people's minds. This year in particular was high in expectations because the crowd was saturated by battle rap getting mainstream attention. 2005 was overall the best one though.

When YMP stuttered that "couldn't get a girl wet if he threw her in a river" line I laughed my ass off.

Last Beat = Yeah Yeah You Know It - Keith Murray

The Juice vs YMP should never have gone into OT. Juice was far more consistent in flow, (rhymed on beat the entire time), and had decent-too-good lines the entire time. The overtime was closer, but I felt that YMP made himself sound dumb as hell after he completely flopped that rhyme "I get on the mic - yo you got -- clown". Yeah, Juice rhymed the same word together, but at least the punchline carried weight and we all understood what he meant. (most of us)

@ClusiveC

8 жыл бұрын

AnthonyS BlackStarKeepShining Being as objective as possible, how can you say that Juice had weak/mediocre punchlines? Are you deaf? And then turn right around and accuse me of being on his nuts, when I gave YMP his credit where its due? Gtfoh. YMP took the overtime by a small margin I think, but Juice took the first matchup.

@ClusiveC

8 жыл бұрын

+AnthonyS BlackStarKeepShining "discrediting YMP's overtime by saying he sounded dumb " -- He did sound dumb. I can't even make out what he said. Of course he should at least get some type of discredit for that. "makes an excuse for Juice/tries to justify Juice rhyming the same word together" -- The fact of the matter is that the line Juice messed up on was an obvious one to fill in the gapes - I can leave a trail in this a nigga couldn't follow. Even if that doesn't hold water, that's far better than tripping up entirely like YMP did. Also, that's not justification - you're misunderstanding what justification means right here. "I'm not accusing you of being on his nuts, you ARE on his nuts" -- You're going to have to give more than an assertion to make this claim go through, because as it stands, I've given props to both MCs. On the other hand, all you've done is attack Juice and say that he was entirely mediocre/weak, which is just ridiculous. "Name one Juice line that you thought was a strong punchline. " -- You the type to play drums on Apollo, and ask them if the lucky log is really hollow.

@ant4613

5 жыл бұрын

I don't disagree with you about how it shouldn't have gone into OT, but it seems like you have a really old school mentality when it comes to freestyle battling (or at least you did at the time of this comment)... Which makes sense, given your support of Juice and considering Juice's style was pretty outdated at this point. The judging at this Scribble Jam was terrible. Realistically, Swann vs. Rhymefest shouldn't have gone into OT either, Swann clearly took it in the first battle. Then Rhymefest clearly took it in OT. Similar situation here, Juice arguably took it in the first battle, YMP took it in OT. There were plenty of instances of questionable judging at this Scribble, these were just a few. You also didn't really give YMP his props, you just said that he took OT by a slight margin, but then went on to say that he "sounded dumb" in OT lol... A bit contradictory. And the strong punchline example you gave is pretty laughable. lol. You really think that's a strong punchline in a freestyle battle? Most people don't even know what that means. Plus, it seemed pre-meditated/like a line that can be used on anybody. It's really just a weak, out-dated, corny line. Also, just ftr, I don't think it's bad that Juice rhymed the same word twice, nor do I necessarily think it's bad that YMP's stumbled a few times. It tends to happen in a freestyle battle lol. Obviously, every case is different, a bad stumble could really fuck you over. But YMP's really weren't that bad, he had enough strong punchlines to make up for them.

How are they so dumb that Juice didn't battle Rhymefest...

@mraz_lt1185

9 жыл бұрын

mutedmakequiet No, swann got robbed. it should have been swann and juice, that would have been a great final

@koolsanthony623

3 жыл бұрын

It was a respect thing. They didn't wanna battle each other, even during tha SJ '97 battles just cuz how tight they was..

the beat is "The Game of Rock" by Ghostface, Raekwon and Prodigy off the Wu Box: Cream of the Clan album

I've noticed that in almost every scribble jam Someone mentions eyedea,slug,atmoshpehere or rhymesayers in this rhymefest said eyedea and rhymsayers

"You're the type of guy to play drums at Apollo, and ask 'em if the Lucky Log really is hollow" It took me a while to figure out what that meant but holy crap, Juice is a genius myauctionfinds.com/2014/03/19/rubbing-the-apollos-fabled-tree-of-hope/

@BasementKilling From what I saw he won the overtime as well. His rhyming and punchlines were so much more creative. On top of that YMP's idea of rebuttals is things like "no im not the wackest in a america" & "No im not nervous". It is very easy to come with something like that.

0:00 - Juice VS Yo Mammas Pimp 3:29 - Rhymefest VS Yo Mammas Pimp

Rhymefest vs. YMP 1st Beat - Deep Cover - Dr. Dre feat. Snoop Dogg 2nd Beat - Nothin' - N.O.R.E. feat. Pharrell

@docbreezus

3 жыл бұрын

Deep Cover is actually Fat Joe

Juice seriously won the actual rounds...why the fuck did they OT

What is that sick beat at 1:40? I can't find the song anywhere. Anyone know?

gotta love the e-y-e

Damn son how many times did Rhymefest, YMP, JUICE, Eyedea and SuperNat grab tha microphone? 😂😂😂

its because it makes them look better by mentioning greatness

No problem, I know how you feel about knowing a sick beat but not being able to identify it haha, I still do that now lol.

What beat is Juice battling off of?

no dude this is the dvd version they cut the crowd out its too loud.

what beat comes on at 01:40. its illl

i agree with everyone, shoulda been juice vs rhymefest... woulda been infamous

wow the crew is totaly freaking out....

i wouldnt say terrible, but i do agree brother ali killed it....sage francis was tight too...luv the metallica shirt

What beat is playing during round 2 of Juice vs. Yo Momma's Pimp?

@nielkaalvarez1719

9 жыл бұрын

Clipse gridin

@Daboistax

9 жыл бұрын

Nielka Alvarez That's round 1. I grew up to the Clipse. The other joint that sounds like a pirate flute chant.

@moephistopheles

8 жыл бұрын

Staxx Edwards Apathy & Vinnie Paz - The Game

@Daboistax

8 жыл бұрын

staloysayc Bruh....thank you so much. Every time I've ever heard this has been exclusively instrumental. Never heard actual lyrics to it and I'm even more juiced that it's JMT

dam juice lost? it would've been dope to see him vs rhymefest. Chi town clash!

ye but ymp said sum clever lines

Yeah Juice not only had clever rhymes that fit and made sense, but he had nice flow as always. I have no idea how YMP won this. Juice also has so much more stamina than all these dudes. YMP always sounded like he was on the verge of running out of rhymes.

Yeah, it's just annoying, really. Anyone can yell out something with similar consonance, lol. It's always gratifying when they lose, though, like Shells vs Eyedea.

"you beat EMINEM! he still sellin' burnt CD's!!! lolololololololol

Eminem line was dope.

The guy in the background wearing the Mets jersey (the guy who loved it when Yo Mamma's Pimp said the black'll whoop your ass, the Mexican steal your car.) Anyone know who this is? I was thinking it was poison pen, but he looks a little too big.

Damn, Juice got eliminated...

except dos noun beat juice, he got screwed more than juice lol

That's fucked up.. I mean Rhymefest is nice and he definetly won that last battle. But there's no way rhymefest won swann...

no one, juice just ran out of money to keep paying them for the rest of the night

@3ddieem google Crooked i "grindin"

fucking thank you

Maybe the judges did this for a reason. It probably should have probably been Juice and Rhymefest but Fest has a history of dropping out of battles to avoid facing Juice. I remember Juice saying in an interview the first time he met Fest that they had a battle with each other and Juice won years before this. So they had battled before.

@baggedachain27 he beat vesh, pack fm, and then juice

swan beat rhymefest the first time. but the 2nd time rhymefest got lucky

dibbs

How the fuck did this guy end up in the finals?

yo mommaz pimp iz alright.

wit a name like that he had to win.

juice won deffinty he was the clever than other, more powerfull, i dont know who doesnt see it

juice destroyed this lol, effortlessly.

Yo Momma's Pimp's last two rounds were not that strong. Rhymefest was more consistent, and his punchlines hit harder. He was cleaner from start to finish. I wish that he would have returned in 2004 and battled Illmaculate.

This waz the year JUICE fell off...this was not the same Juice i knew from back in the day(rock microphones im classic, im bout to blast it. I could put your whole style in park like Jurassic)...Juice iz one of my favorite freestyle battlekats but he sucked in these battles..everything seemed so prewrit, he never even flipped hiz opponent's punchlines or anything, this waz the year he fell off 4 me

y do ppl start booing when somebody messes up a lil bit. nobody can spit off the top of the head perfectly with no mistakes. There's gonna be at least minor mistakes. Only ppl who spit writtens can flow flawlessly

for real. lucky juice didn't really have the punchlines that people like at scribble.

YMP (aka black Pegasus) was using stolen written rhymes thruout the entire battle....he is still a dope mc (esp that day) but a lot of his punchlines weren't his and the crowd didn't know it but the judges did (dick so small, piss on his own balls was a great example)

@caveman9619

4 жыл бұрын

So who did he steal them from?

Black Pegasus (YMP) definitely beat Juice. His punches were harder-hitting.

im not saying he was wack but shiiiiiiit , he lost. how could he win

So did rhymfest and juice battle?

@Milkbutter

8 жыл бұрын

+Paul Espinoza No.

@lyricalstyles

5 жыл бұрын

Juice said in an interview that they battled eachother in chicago back in the day. He said rhymefest called him shaggy from scooby doo because he shaved his shit all wrong lol.

i don't think rhymefest should have won.

naw... black P aka "yo mammas pimp" killed it, it was close between him and fest, if peg wouldn't have slipped in the final round he wouls and should have taken scribble jam. dope battle though. Black pegasus reppin' CO' baby Fuck Yeeeeah!!!!!!!!!!

Proverbs 13:1-13 A wise son heeds his father’s instruction, But a scoffer does not listen to rebuke. A man shall eat well by the fruit of his mouth, but the soul of the unfaithful feeds on violence. He who guards his mouth preserves his life, But he who opens wide his lips shall have destruction. The soul of a lazy man desires, and has nothing; But the soul of the diligent shall be made rich. A righteous man hates lying, But a wicked man is loathsome and comes to shame. Righteousness guards him whose way is blameless, But wickedness overthrows the sinner. There is one who makes himself rich, yet has nothing; And one who makes himself poor, yet has great riches. The ransom of a man’s life is his riches, But the poor does not hear rebuke. The light of the righteous rejoices, But the lamp of the wicked will be put out. By pride comes nothing but strife, But with the well-advised is wisdom. Wealth gained by dishonesty will be diminished, But he who gathers by labor will increase. Hope deferred makes the heart sick, But when the desire comes, it is a tree of life. He who despises the word will be destroyed, But he who fears the commandment will be rewarded.

YMP had plenty of clever lines... but his delivery is so awful.

How did juice lose? That other foo is really probably one of the wackest in america

ymp won this shit was fixed

rhymefest didnt have no punchlines.