Part 3 - Low Budget Classic Motorcycle Restoration Project - Cylinder

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

In this video (which is PART 3 of this low budget classic motorcycle restoration project) Dave is a little further along with The Everyday Bike - The 1967 BSA A65 Thunderbolt.
Today we'll get the pistons into the cylinders and mounted back onto the cases.
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
0:23 Base gasket
1:02 Dowling under the pistons
1:53 Positioning the piston rings
2:52 Clamping up the ring sets
3:14 Assessing the cylinder
4:07 Preparing the cylinder
4:38 Tightening the ring clamps
5:32 Putting the cylinder on the cases
11:15 Tightening the cylinder down
15:45 Turning the engine over
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  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel
    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel3 жыл бұрын

    If you'd like to watch the entire series in a playlist, here's the link kzread.info/head/PLLaaC3JrqSLAHvKe2Z5jSDY4Dp5EZqFOs

  • @richardraby6266
    @richardraby62663 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. Invaluable assistance for anyone contemplating similar work.

  • @flemsnopes3135
    @flemsnopes31352 жыл бұрын

    This is a brilliant explanation that goes into all the little details. You should note that the top ring end gap should be opposite the spark plug location.

  • @mattharrington4887
    @mattharrington48873 жыл бұрын

    I learn little things from all of the videos - excellent stuff.

  • @collyernicholasjohn
    @collyernicholasjohn3 жыл бұрын

    The way you dropped those barrels 👍 I’m hanging up the 4b2

  • @Honkawsuzyamal
    @Honkawsuzyamal2 жыл бұрын

    Well done. It's a job I've done many times and more by luck than skill I've never broken a ring when fitting them.

  • @derekcomer4858
    @derekcomer48583 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely loving this, so relaxing to watch and it’s so refreshing to see someone reusing things with a bit of wear, when people replace everything it takes so much away from the bike. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos 🙏

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Derek, thank you for your kind words :)

  • @peterhatfield5632
    @peterhatfield56323 жыл бұрын

    This has become my favourite channel now. I just love the clear, concise way that tasks are tackled in bite-size chunks without any condescension. Thank you.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome, thank you Peter for your very nice comments :)

  • @sthildas4857
    @sthildas48573 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see real life issues, plus something to follow the logic and practical repairs. Thx.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi, thanks for your nice comments and for checking out the videos.

  • @malcellison8831
    @malcellison88313 жыл бұрын

    Great work again. Your relaxed and careful approach is admirable. In the same position, I’d have got irritated, then annoyed, then angry, then hammer time 😂

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    So true Malc!

  • @madssnabel3277
    @madssnabel32773 жыл бұрын

    wonderful videos you have made. Very informative and helpful , thanks for sharing.

  • @oscarjimenez8951
    @oscarjimenez8951 Жыл бұрын

    Me gustan tus Videos, muy, muy buenos y con más info. Me acuerda el difunto LUNMAD, aprendi bastante con sus videos caseros en los 90 y 2000. Muy humilde Mecánico. Te deseo lo mejor de parte de un amante de las motos Britanicas, desde Puerto Rico del Atlantico!!

  • @paulbaker9064
    @paulbaker90643 жыл бұрын

    Perfect presentation style, thanks Dave. & team.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right on Paul :)

  • @johnlocatelli1768
    @johnlocatelli17683 жыл бұрын

    Hi and thanks for posting... I've done a few rebuilds myself and in some cases I find fitting the pistons / rings into the barrels (not connected to the con-rods) and then aligning the piston pins. Making sure you you fit the inside cir-clip to the inside of the piston so you have good access to the outside cir-clip. Make sure you set up rags to close off the crankcase. Not questioning your methods you have more experience than myself. I do respect what you do. Cheers John from Sydney Australia.

  • @larrynorsworthy8582

    @larrynorsworthy8582

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's what I do.

  • @LapwingVisualMedia
    @LapwingVisualMedia3 жыл бұрын

    Thoroughly enjoyable channel, extremely informative and interesting. Good camera work too, can see what you're doing and hear what you're saying!!! There's no "filler", no "waffle", no gaudy intro's etc just straight down to business. Technical stuff is clearly explained and I'm sure would be easy to follow if I was working on the same bike. Well done folks, this is what youtube should be like for this sort of topic!

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Lapwing, thank you so much for your day-making comments!

  • @terryrance2662
    @terryrance26623 жыл бұрын

    Fit the pistons in the bore from the top with the pin clips fitted on the inner side of the pistons ,the rest the bore on 2 bits of precut blocks of wood and put the pins in . No struggling and no swearing.

  • @pikebobstar2033
    @pikebobstar20333 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Proper faff without a tapered cylinder. Glad I've only ever done this on Japanese bikes. Enjoying the series. More projects like this please 👍Oh...also, I use any of the Japanese bond products such as Yambond, Hondabond etc. Same principle as wellseal. Never had a leak yet.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice one Pike Bobstar, thanks for your nice comments and you recommendations :)

  • @tvand8052
    @tvand80523 жыл бұрын

    Really like this series. Thanks for providing. Greeting from Germany.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for saying, really happy you’re enjoying the build :)

  • @gordonemoore
    @gordonemoore3 жыл бұрын

    I've done lots of Triumph and BSA top ends over the years. Never used a ring compressor, just positioned the rings fore and aft so I could rock the cylinder over them one at a time. Didn't worry about the gaps being on the thrust surfaces since the rings will rotate for a time after start up.

  • @carlosgooglemaps94
    @carlosgooglemaps943 жыл бұрын

    Well, I have never ever thought in my whole life that I will be watching another man for so long and actually enjoying it, I am a very straight guy if you know what I mean 😆 Great video!!

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    So funny Carlos, thanks for watching, we really appreciate it

  • @paulorrell153
    @paulorrell1533 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant videos. Really enjoyable watch. The technical insight is an education. Thanks for passing on your experience and expertise.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it Paul, thank you for checking in and watching our videos :)

  • @alanlake5220
    @alanlake52202 жыл бұрын

    I held my breath when you were fittting the Barrel on, however did the factory do it on the production line under time pressure, would have been so much easier if the barrel had a taper on it .

  • @thoforn
    @thoforn3 жыл бұрын

    Its very informative and instructed well..Love to see a great MC as BSA come to life agai'n...

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    We're really excited to get the bike back on the road Thor, stay tuned!

  • @billturner2633
    @billturner26332 жыл бұрын

    Really helpful thanks

  • @samrodian919
    @samrodian9192 жыл бұрын

    Wow a bit of a fight getting the barrels back on! I think I would have taken the time to chamfer the bottom to make it a fairer fight! But fair play to you, you do it for a living so if you can do it without busting a ring (or two lol) that's the way you do it. You are correct that Japanese barrels have got a good lead in to make assembly much easier. I wonder if BSA had special tools to do it other than clamps like you used. I'd hate to have to had to put barrels on eight hours a day day after day!

  • @demportboy1584
    @demportboy15843 жыл бұрын

    Regarding the tightening of nuts my rule of thumb is do it up so you strip the thread, then back it of a quarter turn,. I'm an engineer so do not question my knowledge. Seriously, it will be helpful to young fellas who have little idea and can get the correct way of doing things with confidence, and can refer to this anytime.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right, quarter turn after it's threaded, got it!

  • @coobye
    @coobye3 жыл бұрын

    I'm really enjoying this series even if I was holding my breath for far too long while the pistons were being put into the barrel.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    We all were Coobye!

  • @MadChalet
    @MadChalet3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the very straight-forward delivery style of your videos. Watching you fit the cylinders onto the pistons makes me wonder how they did it (and now do it) in the factories - they have to have a faster method. Years ago I rebuilt a Honda 500-4 engine (my first bike) - getting the cylinders back was a memorable challenge.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha, you're right, they would have had it down to a fine art in the factories!

  • @douglas9607
    @douglas9607 Жыл бұрын

    Those rings were tedious. Well done.

  • @alanstockley391
    @alanstockley3913 жыл бұрын

    Another good video a pleasure to watch.... Keep up the good work Alan Stockley

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cheers Alan, thanks for your nice comments!

  • @vonryansexpress
    @vonryansexpress3 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff - very interesting and informative - pity about that lack of chamfer !! . . .

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @jakubjezik
    @jakubjezik3 жыл бұрын

    Great series. Very informative. Thank you.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching Jakub!

  • @paulking3276
    @paulking32762 жыл бұрын

    When I was an apprentice at college the tutor joked that there only 3 torque settings, tight, bloody tight and f###ing tight.

  • @mikedavies5084
    @mikedavies50843 жыл бұрын

    Just discovered your channel ,very interesting very informative I’ve now subscribed

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Welcome aboard Mike, thanks for your nice comments!

  • @stevemull2002
    @stevemull20022 жыл бұрын

    Ive never put pistons in the liners this way, ive always put the piston into the liner on the bench, and then lowerd the liner onto the crank, and inserted the small ends into the pistons, but with frozen gudgen pins, the same as you heated the pistons Great vids though thanks

  • @kevkfz5226
    @kevkfz52263 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done. Never used ring compressors always just wiggled em on, carefully. But normally have a good chamfer. Last one was Guzzi which was as easy as it gets really.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice one Kev! Cheers for your input :)

  • @retromechanicalengineer
    @retromechanicalengineer3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent content, very well presented. Thank you.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you liked it and thanks for checking in :)

  • @borisbalkan4918
    @borisbalkan49183 жыл бұрын

    Very good tutorial, like the no nonsence way you do your work and how you explian work. Although quite pricey, have a look at the HAZET Pistonringpliers 794U-3. Once you have used them, you'll never go back! all the best

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Boris!

  • @sf940477
    @sf9404773 жыл бұрын

    Loving this channel. Keep up the good work. Thanks 😊

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Stephen, much appreciated :)

  • @mitchburk5112
    @mitchburk51123 жыл бұрын

    If you can't find Wellseal, 3 Bond also know as Hondabond or Yamabond is a great substitute.

  • @syedrizwanahmad2456
    @syedrizwanahmad2456 Жыл бұрын

    I love BSA from Pakistan

  • @tripleman653
    @tripleman6533 жыл бұрын

    Great video and very informative. Thanks

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very welcome Martin, thanks for watching.

  • @HepcatHarley
    @HepcatHarley3 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant channel, very enjoyable to watch :)

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for checking in Hepcat :) much appreciated

  • @philhotchin284
    @philhotchin2843 жыл бұрын

    Great channel, not got any Brit bikes but really interesting.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right on Phil, thanks for saying :)

  • @Richard-pe4cx
    @Richard-pe4cx3 жыл бұрын

    do you prefer well seal over hylomar blue .great channel, never too old to learn i have a 57 road rocket i have got back on the road and the advice on valve guides is really good alloy heads can be noisy ,don't always jump to conclusions had mine since 79 my first" big bike "

  • @paulbaker9064
    @paulbaker90643 жыл бұрын

    I loved my A65T, but first few runs it kept nipping up on LH pot, eventually found the problem was the $2 gasket missing between head inlet and manifold, was a twin carb upgrade by previous owner = $$$$ 2 pistons & rings $$$$ 😂

  • @chrismacleod3947
    @chrismacleod39473 жыл бұрын

    nice one Dave Great Video

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it Chris!

  • @Steve-XTC67
    @Steve-XTC673 жыл бұрын

    Just subscribed Dave, very enjoyable video's and don't forget to keep giving lots of "hints & tips"

  • @dugwthree
    @dugwthree3 жыл бұрын

    remember having similar problem with my Triumph 650

  • @heli-man-
    @heli-man-3 жыл бұрын

    I remember doing my first engine when I was 15 years old I used to do the rings with my fingers it never took this long I can remember some pistons had ring locators like a small pin in the ring groove

  • @vorhese
    @vorhese3 жыл бұрын

    Wow that no taper is a pita. I would have got much more frustrated in front of a camera. Interesting to see differences in technique. You wellseal and oil everything, I put on base gaskets dry and install dry barrels on the rings.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Everyone has their own methods that work don't they Vorhese, thanks for sharing yours :)

  • @krtt750
    @krtt7503 жыл бұрын

    Could you put a taper on those barrels in the drill press? Just a thought.

  • @jumpfortyfour9965
    @jumpfortyfour99653 жыл бұрын

    Have you not tried hiolmar its blue , good veido thank you .

  • @TornadoCAN99
    @TornadoCAN993 жыл бұрын

    I've seen a Norton Commando video (kzread.info/dash/bejne/e2R5ksykgNq7eqw.html&ab_channel=JamesComstock) having the pistons & rings inserted to bores on the bench, then barrel positioned over crankcase and piston pins inserted & clipped in. Is that a method you have ever done before?

  • @MrSportster12
    @MrSportster123 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. I've watched and enjoyed the whole series. I'm sure it's not great being filmed, I would hate it, but it is good to show that things don't just slip together without a bit of patience. Are you going to give a rough idea of the cost of the project at the end?

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Stu, thanks for checking in, yeah, I think we definitely will cause it's quite interesting.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dave copes will under the pressure doesn't he!

  • @Wooley689
    @Wooley6893 жыл бұрын

    How long has this channel been up? Just found it, thank goodness.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    About five months Wolley689, thanks for watching :)

  • @billdancliff6434
    @billdancliff64342 ай бұрын

    The Gandini pistons I’m using in the A65 have almost identical valve reliefs from intake to exhaust. Is there a proper way to tell the difference?

  • @johnferguson4857
    @johnferguson48573 жыл бұрын

    tricky! to say the least.

  • @MoJo-lj1zu
    @MoJo-lj1zu6 ай бұрын

    I've always used heldite rather than wellseal, is wellseal any better?

  • @velocettedude
    @velocettedude3 жыл бұрын

    Hello there, enjoyed watching this. Something you might want to consider is not putting much oil in the bores and when running in, use a cheap base 20/50 oil, and that's important and secondly when on the road, rag the bike and make the engine work but not labour and that's important as you only have a short window to bed the rings in. Check out this link and the information is very valid. www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm This is what i did on my 1973 Triumph Daytona and the bike is smoke free with very little oil consumption and has good power. One last thing which is vital is to take the oil tank off and seriously wash it out, you won't believe the crap that comes out of them. I did this on the Daytona and then put a torch in to make sure it was spotless and it was. I use Hyperclean by Comma which is water washable and then a rinse out with a good washing up liquid like Fairy platinum and boiling hot water and then a final hot rinse and then i put the oil tank in the oven on a low heat to get rid of any moisture. If you need any A50/A65 Part's let me know as i have quite a lot of it and some A7/A10. I have just subscribed and given you guy's a thumbs up. I do know quite a few tricks when building bikes and i might be able to give you guys some tips on how to make some things easier when dissembling and assembling. Cheers. Billy.

  • @derekcollins1972

    @derekcollins1972

    3 жыл бұрын

    I still cant bare the thought of installing dry pistons without oil.Why wear anything out faster than it has to.Ive never a problem seating rings using oil.To each his own.

  • @georgecross2014
    @georgecross20143 жыл бұрын

    Why the cable ties? the ring compressors have a nut and bolt to tighten them.

  • @alelectric2767
    @alelectric27673 жыл бұрын

    Why not just a gasket? Why did you add the weld seal with the gasket?

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, for added security of the seal, an extra measure.

  • @steveharvey2203
    @steveharvey22032 жыл бұрын

    No wonder BSA went tits up if it takes this long to put some pistons in...

  • @paullawrence8613
    @paullawrence86135 ай бұрын

    Hi there fantastic I have a65 a 1967 could you tell me what oil goes in the gearbox some people say another people could you let me know cheers

  • @paullawrence8613

    @paullawrence8613

    5 ай бұрын

    90 grade or 40 grade in the gear box BSA A65 1967

  • @garykane7354
    @garykane73543 жыл бұрын

    Great video but i like to see how the trans is assemble, gear buy gear.

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Gary, thanks for watching, unfortunately we missed that part of the process due to time constraints.

  • @garykane7354

    @garykane7354

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe next time we can watch the transmission being put together gear by gear and how to set the forks cuz I had problems with that a lot with I had a 69 BSA

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@garykane7354 that's the plan Gary, point noted! Cheers for watching :)

  • @wilfredprins9718
    @wilfredprins97183 жыл бұрын

    Only oversized rings? No oversize pistons?

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Wilfred, piston was already .20 oversize

  • @wilfredprins9718

    @wilfredprins9718

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheClassicMotorcycleChannel ok, classic bikes so much nicer than those modern computer/injection ones😊 I am a happy owner of a '73 Honda

  • @ulrich.hoffmann
    @ulrich.hoffmann3 жыл бұрын

    Where did you buy the universal red engine stand ?

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Ulrich, link is in the description of the video :)

  • @ulrich.hoffmann

    @ulrich.hoffmann

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheClassicMotorcycleChannel Thanks, found it ! Hope they ship to Germany before BREXIT!

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ulrich.hoffmann Oh great! Was it you who was asking the other day for one of these?

  • @ulrich.hoffmann

    @ulrich.hoffmann

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not yet, I asked for the shipping costs firstly

  • @gliacheyamati2821
    @gliacheyamati28213 жыл бұрын

    Awesome 😍💋 💝💖♥️❤️

  • @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    @TheClassicMotorcycleChannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 🤗

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