Dr. Sheana has always worked under the Supreme Chancellor. At least in the series lore. It was mentioned when she was introduced.

Order 66 was in fact public knowledge, however there was order 65 which throw off the Jedi’s suspicions. Order 65 is an order where if the Supreme Chancellor went rouge or was too dangerous to remain in power than he would be taken out of office peacefully or Forcefully. Sense the Jedi had a lot of power to begin with the Jedi Council believed it would be fair if there was a contingency incase the Jedi Order ever went rouge. This is why Order 66 was made.

@chheinrich8486

Жыл бұрын

I now in legends they Were publicly known but is that still in canon?

@Blacktoothoneil

3 ай бұрын

@@chheinrich8486doesn’t matter, this story follows a lot of legends canon.

On time-line questions: Fan has said he doesn't believe in using flashbacks, hence why he has so many parallel story lines going at once.

They are not in the senate Chambers, they are in the senate data vaults. Dr. Sheena is sitting in a hover chair due to the injury to her leg.

@Airier

Жыл бұрын

Ah, my mistake.

@afanwithtoomuchtime4375

Жыл бұрын

@@Airier Np broda

@cobraglatiator

Жыл бұрын

10 hours late and on another persons channel, but i've been wondering, and i gotta ask: you're obviously a fan of SW and 40k, but are you remotely interested in either mass effect or halo? cause i love this series you've been doing, and i think an MExHalo crossover sounds interesting as well, but you're the only person i've seen do this kinda thing, so i gotta ask does it sound remotely interesting to you? would you ever consider doing something like this for those? maybe some time after you've decided it's time for this story to come to its grand conclusion? don't know if you'll even read this, let alone reply, if you don't you don't, if you're not remotely interested in a crossover of them or in either series i'll be disappointed but hey that's life, and if you DO take the time outta your day to reply, thank you. --and y'know what, thank you, for making this series either way, not a 40k fan but you managed to hook me. be well man.

Airier: "these titles are eye-gouging." Also Airier: uses KZread's light mode.

@Airier

Жыл бұрын

😁 Well how else would I try and light up my house?

Airier, the Contingency Orders of the GAR are canonically public knowledge. They are included in the emergency powers. There is an order that needs a majority vote of the senate to work, how would they be able to do that without knowing it exists? Also, Order 37. Capture of a single or multiple individuals by both threat of an actual execution of innocent individuals.

@oliviernaud4373

Жыл бұрын

I think the "twist" about order 66 being know by the jedis in lore was all around the way it was explained to them: in case of "something something Jedi commander fail or misbehave", said commander must be remove from command. To them, 1: remove wasnt meant in a lethal way, 2: it was suppose to be a case by case situation, as in remove that one specific jedi commander, rather than remove literally all jedi in existence from reality. To sum it up, the order 66 the jedis were told about was: "remove the jedi commander", while the order that all clones were told was: "REMOVE ALL jediS commanderS". Note the capital letters indicate the major difference between versions. Also of note to Airier since he didnt watch the clone war cartoon: the orders werent just told to the clone as through instructors and manuals. Every single clone in the republic army had a chip installed in its head. Officially it was about nerfing them and making them more loyal to their non clone leaders since their model (Jungo Fett who died at the end of episode 2) was too aggressive/compulsive/unpredictable. That chip's existence was not know to the jedi before near the end of the clone war.

@requiemlul3140

Жыл бұрын

@@oliviernaud4373 Actually, the order was explained to them perfectly. The problem was Palpatine sent it to every clone commander in the universe at once, making them all kill their specific jedi.

@oliviernaud4373

Жыл бұрын

@@requiemlul3140 while i agree they probably didnt though about that order being use galaxywide at once, I somewhat disagree on the use of the word "perfectly". i'm pretty sure the jedi counsel would have vehemently object to any clone order that would state "slaughter every single jedi on sight on the spot". Cant imagine Yoda accepting such an expeditive judgement in any circumstances. That was suppose to be for removing the current jedi commander from his leading position. In fact its a rule that only the Jedi counsel can judge another jedi. They are literally beyond the reach of most if any judicial arm of the republic system. And when outside, that was usually on a diplomatic mission with diplomatic immunity on their side.

@Soulwrite7

Жыл бұрын

Yes. While the orders were public knowledge or at least known by senators, Jedi, and upper military personal. The fact that the clones were grown with control chips in their brains, which would compel absolute obedience, regardless of situation or emotional attachment, was only known by the Kaminoans, Palpatine, and Duku. I am not sure that even the Kaminoans were aware of the plans of the Sith.

@requiemlul3140

Жыл бұрын

@@oliviernaud4373 Again, I agree, that’s a perfect description of the order. I didn’t say it was meant for removing every Jedi. The reason the clones killed ALL Jedi is because Palpatines sent the order to ALL clone commanders, not because that’s the order. If he only sent it to Cody only Obi-Wan would have been attacked.

Shina is part of the Chancellor's direct special science division. That's why he said she worked directly with him. XD

So to give some insights. 1) Palpatine has a LOT of people working for him. Both as "the kindly Chancellor Palpatine" who is just looking for solutions. And as Tyrant Palpatine, knowing the guy's a power mongering would be dictator but who don't care about that and are doing things people normally would never do either because it's normally illegal or because they want in on the coming Empire. 2) Hyperspace ramming is a logical rabbithole that wrecks the internal logic of starwars. Moat planets aren't as dense as the New Order fleet that was destroyed in the last Jedi, and that was ship accellerating into hyperspace, meaning that a ship of that mass could destroy planets...meaning a death laser is more expensive and less effective than just having hyperspace rams. So anyone who wants to go OK lets have hyperspace ramming rather than the old SW:EU "and then the ship destroys itself slamming into the shields/planet surface causing disproportionately low damage" Well they have to come up with a whole thing to show and explain why Palpatine would want a death laser space station rather a scary looking fleet of suicide ships that could crack open hole to a planet's core at any time he wants and of course do multiple planets simultaneously.

shina always worked for palpatine

@RipOffProductionsLLC

Жыл бұрын

Delete spoilers

@danvojnovic6804

Жыл бұрын

didnt he already wach that episode

@RipOffProductionsLLC

Жыл бұрын

@dan vojnovic the episode where Padme proposed the reinstatement of the position of Supreme Commander, but not the one where it's revealed that Anakin is appointed(Episide 24, Beyond Axum). There's no point in deleting it now, it's almost been a week, if Airier was going to see it, he would have by now.

@danvojnovic6804

Жыл бұрын

@@RipOffProductionsLLC ok will edit it out

The ship was discussed in the early episodes. Before 4he hyperspace ram, and was explained as Kraken liking ships and wanting the new toy.

Well, if you remember she did mention 100 orders. And yeah, Order 66 does seem concerning for the Jedi. But it is there among 99 other orders at least one of which dealing with the removal of the Chancellor (which unfortunately is something more complex and bureocratic than "walk into his office with 4 Jedi, tell him he is arrested").

@magni5648

Жыл бұрын

It's in fact the one right beforeit in the list, Order 65.

With those Rules like 66 it was probably like Jedi didnt read the fine print or simply skipped the terms of agreement

Jedi might have been told order 66 was to be used on rogue Jedi.

@Airier

Жыл бұрын

Technically, by Palpatine 's definition, they were even told the truth. 😅

So I think the time phrame is decently clear at the start, this is after the council at Rothana as Bucket was the clone who happened to save Sheana and was made to follow her around. So pretty soon after that, probably around the start of Auxim

Man, I can't wait for you to react to Ashoka interrogating a guardsmen. Shame it will be like next year because it is episode 41 part 1.

@Airier

Жыл бұрын

If nothing else, I'm in this one for the long haul. 😁

@L_Monke

Жыл бұрын

@@Airier This is quite a long series, It took me a few days to binge watch it all and it was worth it. Thanks by the way for introducing me to this series, I doubt I would ever get it in recommended.

I mean honestly after seeing the giant City on that ship it got me thinking how dangerous would a craft world be inside of Star Wars cuz they get up to a lot of crazy s*** on those things

@Airier

Жыл бұрын

Depending on which craft world, probably pretty safe... For however long it takes them to realize they're in a new universe where Slaanesh isn't going to claim their souls so they can pick back up where the old Ealdari empire left off. 😶

@dylanperkins5909

Жыл бұрын

@@Airier if you ever get the chance this is some really odd Star Wars lore it's about a creature called a star weird it's basically the Star Wars equivalent of space demons look them up in your free time if you get the chance they are downright terrifying

@Airier 25:35 she still has a broken leg at this point in time and still needs the star wars version of a wheelchair to get around

Love the realization that order 66 was public knowledge and none of the Jedi knew it

@RipOffProductionsLLC

Жыл бұрын

Or they didn't care because there were other orders for every other part of the Republic government and military, so it wasn't that big of a red flag, because everyone else was seemingly under just as much threat

Does everybody forget/not notice the response to Order 66 is, 'Yes My Lord' not, 'Yes Chancellor'?

@gokbay3057

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that is a weird one. I think a reason for this could be the fact that Clones were bought by the Sith before the Clone Wars without the knowledge of the Republic (in the guise of a Jedi) and for example the order to remove the Chancellor is there just in case Palpy didn't manage to get the job. But the Clones were always supposed the receive the special orders from the Dark Lord of the Sith, not the Chancellor of the Republic. That does make them being public pretty weird tho. Realistically (ignoring the chips) they totally should have went "yes sir/chancellor/your excellency (which I am pretty sure is what the actual official adress style of the Supreme Chancellor is)" rather than "my lord".

@johncaddick5075

Жыл бұрын

@@gokbay3057 same thought patten for me

If you have someone who made a chronological playlist, STICK to it. The shorts at one point are hyper necessary for the jump between two episodes because they might as well be a whole episode in themselves. But whatever you do don't fall for the hype bois wanting to rush you to their favorite shorts now because they can't wait. That said the shorts should be right around the corner and i am excited to see you watch them.

Airier, Palpatine isn't acquiring more power, the reinstatement of "Supreme Commander" isn't an upgrade to Supreme Chansoler, but a separate position, one that will take power away from the Chansolership, hence why Padme suggesting it, and Palpatine's initial reaction was negative before he realized he could use it...

@iambasegod8200

Жыл бұрын

Anakin's new position is somewhat akin to General Grievous's position, if that helps clarify.

@RipOffProductionsLLC

Жыл бұрын

@@iambasegod8200 spoilers... airier isn't there yet

@dking6021

Жыл бұрын

@@RipOffProductionsLLC how is that a spoiler, Grievous was the commander of the droid army in canon?

@RipOffProductionsLLC

Жыл бұрын

@Dking not the stuff about Grievous, the stuff about Anakin, that information is many episodes and shorts away from now.

@Airier While I was listening to the series I assumed that the Battle of Axom was taking place over a few weeks. However Fan has recently confirmed that in actuality the battle up to the current video he has made is more like 8-10 hrs. The reason it feels so long is that he is cutting between multiple point of view characters he is establishing and developing, such that the same fight is viewed from different perspectives, and while one thing is happening so is another. Once the battle for Axom is concluded and the point of view characters separate timeline progression will hasten as concurrency reduces. I feel as though this is important to keep in mind to help your enjoyment. Even though this is relatively new meta-textual information it explains why there is such a lack of dates and times being mentioned, because there is literally no time (or negative time) between scene changes. However with that said, Fan does despise flash-backs/flash-forwards so that will make following the story easier.

@RipOffProductionsLLC

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Fan said that "8 hours" was not a canonical number, just an example he was using to explain why the battle of Axum was dragging on much longer then he or the audience would have expected; "it the battle was 8 hours, that's 8 hours of Anakin, 8 hours of Asoka, 8 hours of Ayla, (repeat "8 hours of X" for all the other characters Airier hasn't met yet), etc., and that adds up to be like days of stuff happening in only those 8 hours" though the point that everything we've seen so far all being less than one day is true(barring maybe the cut aways to events on other worlds, which might be displaced into the past to make room for travel times, or maybe even into the future due to travel times, we just don't have a lot to go on to try and sync up these events at the moment)

@Soulwrite7

Жыл бұрын

@@RipOffProductionsLLC Thank you for clarifying my statement. You are correct when you say that 8 hrs was not canonical, and that Fan used it as an example. Though the spirit of my comment was, like Fans statement, to emphasize the relatively short duration of time which has passed within his universe, compared to the duration of released content. That the events being described are sequential or concurrent. I appreciate you comment though as my intention wasn't to mislead, but I was not able to recall the whole statement made (hence wording 'more like' and giving a range 8-10). Thank you though for your polite corrective comment =).

I mean, I don't think it was -public- public. Order 66 was a kill switch in the clones for 'In case of Jedi Uprising'. There was likely one for 'In case of Civil War' 'In case of Sith Uprising' etcetera... It would be a smart thing to have in artificial soldiers you could program.

@magni5648

Жыл бұрын

The contingency orders were public knowledge, the biochips that'd force the clones into carrying them out automatically weren't. Notably, Order 65 was essentially the same as Order 66, only aimed at the Chancellor.

@Airier the placement of this episode in the playlist has always bugged me. Going by the After Talk it was clearly recorded and posted AFTER the character 1313 was introduced but it's been placed in the playlist BEFORE he showed up. Also, yes. The Battle of Axum had gotten way out of Fan's hand and he has finally wrestled it into it's endgame after 40+ episodes.

@RipOffProductionsLLC

Жыл бұрын

Fan put it where it goes chronologically, though it doesn't get a fallow up for many episodes due to the wide number of parallel plotlines he has going on...

There is also an order to take out the supreme chancellor.

@Airier yeah the time line gets a little jumbled in the shorts but it gives good background stories that will make sense later and you may need to consult with Fan on what order the shorts go in

@RipOffProductionsLLC

Жыл бұрын

Fan made the playlist, this short is the only video that isn't located in release order, and that's because it was released after the point where it goes in the timeline(as in, the episode where Sheena meets with Padme had already been released), and in fact was based on a text only short Fan had posted in his Community tab, presumably he put this short in the playlist to represent the time when that original post was made...

I've been waiting for your vids every week man,keep up the great work.

Here we go! We’re finally at the special episodes!

Aaaah Shina, I like her. She thinks, my favorite OC, if she is original. Anyway she and Ahsoka are my favs in the series and I want more Shina!

@SirMarshalHaig

Жыл бұрын

And Ahsoka, even if there already is more of her than Shina.

There are a lot of twist and turns in the battle it's only just coming to a conclusion now. Let's just say that the battle gets a lot bigger.

Lead scientists on kamenio knew because they were required t equippe the clones and design there ships. They had to know to some degree

I believe the contingency orders were always public knowledge but majorly downplayed while the knowledge of the ability to enforce them to the point they could be (the inhibitor chips) was not. Downplayed as in "Hey these exist! you don't need to know what they say! they are long and boring and don't really mean anything!"

13:59 did this man just say that there functionally the best b/c everything is much worse as a tau fan I am offended

Oh yes nitpicker

I am speed

I can tell by the inflection of the girls voice she is holding a piece of paper in her hand reading off it. Good amateur artist but shes gotta let the inflection relax so her words arent halting like shes reading off a book

You also need to remember the tau also have an Mabry one day he will pull the plug on the tau. I hope he take there ai to its logical conclusion of so no matter what will turn on them

@jasonking6499

Жыл бұрын

Dame u spell check ai not mabry

@jasonking6499

Жыл бұрын

Gw will pull the plug god

Padme is going to Axum to find Anikin and tell him he is the republics version of warmaster. The Senate in large does not know how much of a clusterfuck Axum is becoming yet do have a contingency plan.

@RipOffProductionsLLC

Жыл бұрын

Delete spoilers

Would love to see you react to the new OtakuVS 4Chan Anime

You are as much of an overthinker as ever.