I'd love to see a game knights where they have Mitch and someone else on, maybe Kyle or Craig, and they all have to make budget decks.

@ancientswordrage

4 жыл бұрын

Budget infect would be exciting

@ezrabeidler-shenk626

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that sounds cool

@ry7hym

4 жыл бұрын

yeah!

@andrewbellingham6852

3 жыл бұрын

P

Deck Tech starts at 4:59. You're welcome.

@cacs2201

4 жыл бұрын

Why would you want to skip the song? What kind of evil are you?

@tempestandacomputer6951

4 жыл бұрын

@@cacs2201 I can click on it after they finish singing.

@PrimeEnLightenedShadow

4 жыл бұрын

TY!

I haven't watched this yet but I'm hoping this is a sign that the game knights with only budget decks and commanders quarters is coming soon.

@darbymckilkannoncaid3279

4 жыл бұрын

not likely, their production schedule has been all screwed up by covid, i'd love to see it happen though

@andrewlaverghetta715

4 жыл бұрын

@@darbymckilkannoncaid3279 AND I doubt they'd do any fun content because they've set their bar so high they don't seem to be able to do anything quick and fun like a live budget webcam game. That'd be fun though to watch them actually be able to play in real time instead of heavily edited. That's the downside of being too good and setting the bar too high I guess.

@bradycurtis668

4 жыл бұрын

Darby McKilkannoncaid Mitch was in la filming a budget episode for the podcast so he might have done a game knights or extra turns but that was a while ago

@mikelong2756

4 жыл бұрын

@@bradycurtis668 were you at the airport lol

@ancientswordrage

4 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't hold your breath, but maybe one day?

If only there was a channel that specialized in budget EDH decks,and you guys personally met them and invited them at least once. Could you imagine having a game knights with someone like that🤔

@hildegans4945

4 жыл бұрын

Lol commanders quarters

Josh.. remember even if those cards that you are drafting are "worthless". They may no always be. Keep in mind, gilded drake was considered "draft chaff" and it was left on many many tables.

@BloodLegaZ

4 жыл бұрын

Boy I wonder how those people are sleeping at night?

@nickleewright

4 жыл бұрын

@@BloodLegaZ back then it was a piece of crap...honestly it was. I mean what were you going to do give them a 3/3 flyer in exchange for their mogg flunky? You may try to take a tradewind rider or stalking stones but your opponent would just bounce it back to their hand with a capsize. Many opponents really didn't even have creatures period like high tide, academy, necro control or draw go (unless you count their stalking stones). You almost never saw anything larger than the drake itself.

@jdotwilliam

3 жыл бұрын

Now it’s just An actual beast in EDH...it’s probably the most mana efficient card in my Pako/Haldan Theft deck.

I have been waiting forever for this deck tech! I'm definitely building around Pako and Haldan.

Yes! Been hyped ever since y'all mentioned the deck tech last video, loving the content!! (Especially the budget brews!)

15:56 “ruff” I could only hear the pun lol

I wonder if they have ever had a copyright claim because of their impeccable singing.

The thing I love about budget builds is the ability to get a deck rolling cheaply and learning what the deck does well/poorly and finding the best path to upgrade. I genuinely hope more channels do more budget deck techs (not every one, but every third or fourth tech would be very cool).

Great deck tech guys. Keep the budget deck techs coming!!

Good stuff guys! I love checking out budget decks if I just want to make something cheap and then upgrade it later.

Yesssss! Been wanting to build a decent budget Pako deck! Buzzing to watching this 😄😍

I've been waiting for this!! So excited for his pairing.

Good deck idea, looking forward to another Game Knight as I have watched the most recent one and have watched past ones too. Never played a commander deck but have learned how to from watching you. Hope to see more awesome plays.

They need to invite Mitch to game knights and do a budget episode. No vedalken orrery for Josh...

@haldir1991

4 жыл бұрын

Leyline is actually a budget version of it ^^

@chrisporter4993

4 жыл бұрын

@@haldir1991 Or the Flash fish.

@CPZeit

4 жыл бұрын

@@chrisporter4993 The Flash Fish is so much worse than the leyline though

@olivierdebilde4292

4 жыл бұрын

I would pay to see this happening ! (But on a budget too x) )

@cliponbowties4799

4 жыл бұрын

Oh no, 98 lands and Orrery. He's crazy, he'll do it.

My brother brewed these commanders and found Key to the City is a pretty good card. Having that unblockable on a card you can get off of Pako that also lets you cycle is powerful. And you draw enough cards off of Pako that you don't care as much about the discard.

Pako and Haldan is my favorite deck I’ve made! Song of creation is insane in the deck because you don’t care about the discard clause with all the cards you have fetched. I’m also playing tidal barracuda which lets me play spells at instant speed and protects my turn. I’m running 9 different counterspells to protect my board. Obviously anything that lets you play more lands is awesome, you could probably make a lands deck with them. P/H are super versatile value engines that are really fun to play. Thanks Josh and Jimmy for the video and spreading the word on this awesome deck!

These are my favorite commanders from C20. I love the idea to just ramp up swing and get buff until someone deals with your dog then just start playing other people's decks and have landfall triggers because you'll never miss a land drop again.

@BloodLegaZ

4 жыл бұрын

This was my thought process as well. Build the deck around Pako, an aggro commander damage kill your opponent type of deck. Then have just a few spells like swarm intelligence to swap over to a late game value your opponents out due to all the resources you gained from Palo, and they wasted dealing with him.

So glad to see this deck. These were the C20 commanders that most interested me, and a lot of the options that you offered were great. I am planning to go deeper on the "play the other decks" theme, with Etali, Chaos Wand and Mind's Dilation, which I thought was in budget, but it ain't anymore.

Please more awesome deck techs like this and the obosh one in the future! Awesome vids!

Just made my day by posting this, always waiting for more content to watch

I’ve been thinking of building Pako (and Haldan)! Perfect!

Really good decktech Jimmy. Thanks! Kudos to the Command Crew, Mister Infect Glasses ruled big time! Take care guys, keep safe!

I was actually about to order some stuff for a version of a Haldan and Pako deck I brewed but now... I think i might reconsider putting some cards from this deck tech into my own deck.. Awesome deck tech btw 😄

I'd love to see video about upgrading this deck. Competitive (or at least more competitive) version of it must be nuts!

Guys this was such a good episode! Mitch at the Commanders Quarters does great work so it's so nice to see other creators going for budget as well to expand the pool of options. I would love to see more!

I just ordered my Gfuel with the promo code you guys gave. I'm super excited!

I'm a budget player and I am currently working on a mono red and mono green decks but I might bulid this deck none of the precons this year spoke to me but pocko speaks to me

I've been hoping you guys would make a deck tech on these two hyped to finally have a casual edh deck that is pako!!!!

I really like the budget premise. Plus you are good at it.

Thank you I am now going to build this kind of deck.

Built a budgety Pako/Haldan deck out of spare cards in my collection and it's so much fun. The Good Boy makes games so entertaining.

Great show guys loved the tech keep it coming

Just wanna say thanks guys more than ever I started working out since we’re in lockdown and i now literally save your podcasts for the sessions it really helps time fly 🤘 ps if you want a mind blowing show to sink you teeth into there’s a show called OA on Netflix, a bit slow paced and definitely out there but if you can accept the premise you should absolutely love it

I made a control focused version of these two, and the only two creatures I included in the deck were Oracle of Muldaya and Azusa.

Been wanting to build this deck

Hello thanks for introducing me to magic

@masonbirch6319

4 жыл бұрын

Same

I think having Kruphix in a deck like this would be excellent. The fact that you can pay whatever mana you want means you can just dump a bunch of mana into Kruphix and save it for later

I always watch your show, every episode, but I will admit that sometimes due to power level I don't always agree on your choices or opinions, this one was spot on. I do enjoy your deck techs

@andrewlaverghetta715

4 жыл бұрын

I don't like how every one of Josh's deck has Expropriate. It's just generic goodstuff like Vedalken Orrery, but crazy optimistic.

Had quite a bit of fun brewing Haldan and Pako... ... I bought the precon and I edited it quite a bit with my existing collection, so the deck's pathways are part proliferate, part copying (with Kalamax and other cards), and part top of the library business. Other cards for top of the library business? Riverwise Augur, Conch Horn, and Dream Cache are pretty good, and I was fortunate to find a Portent, Time Ebb, Run Aground, and Memory Lapse in my collection. Reclaim is a great instant for a single green to put a card from your bin on top of your library. Tahngarth's Glare was such a dumb card for the longest time, now the card is dumb and awesome in my Haldan-Pako brew. With Kalamax and other copying support, my opponent's spells are much more effective. Temur Charm, Barrage of Boulders, Cosmotronic Wave, and Lure are some unblockable goodies, and if I could find the room, I could try Bellowing Tanglewurm, Nemesis Mask, Taunting Elf, Noble Quarry, and Prized Unicorn. Sometimes you just have to end the game, so I'm glad I found Relentless Assault in my collection. Temur Battle Rage, Raking Claws, and Wrecking Ogre are good for some unexpected double strike goodness. I have a bit of protection in the form of equipment, enchantments, creatures, nope spells, and some of the very spells which make the deck go. Once the pandemic finally not only gets a vaccine, but also gets under reasonable control, I'm totally up for some musical chairs, though I'm the only one who's going to be leaving my seat.

I'm late to the party on this episode, but I just built a $150 version of Pako and Haldan, and let me just say I have never had so much fun playing commander before. These guys are a blast to play and it is really good at matching the power level of any playgroup you play with. I find that running a ton of ramp spells and can trips in your deck (leap/shadow rift/slip through space/preordain/etc) keep your hand full and also can help give Pako evasion which is really useful.

Jimmy: "when Josh swang with it." Hahaha

@katierumlock6645

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah that’s some good grammar jimmy from :)

Would love to see an updated version of this deck

Need more budget deck techs!

Still waiting for that Budget Game Knights!

I’d love to see more deck techs!

Actually made and played with my group with Pako and Haldan. I quickly became the enemy as I was exiling their cards. Once I got out Pako he vacate a big threat that pulled a lot a value. Pulled in Haldan, never missed a land drop. Unfortunately I was first gone, but a super fun to play.

I like a lot of the ideas in this deck. I wonder if adding a few more cards to make Pako unblockable would be worth it since you already have the Herald of Secret Streams. I was thinking Aqueous Form (Aura with Unblockable + scry 1 on attack) or Whispersilk Cloak (Equipment with Shroud + Unblockable) since these are also budget.

I like Joiner Adept as a mana fixing card for a budget version of Chromatic Lantern: 1G creature 2/1 "Lands you control tap for 1 of any color" Love the decktech vids btw 👌

these are the commanders I been waiting for, though I was hoping for a singular commander, I'm going to make this work. Nice work, it would be cool if you did an unrestricted deckbuild. Also you know what would be really cool? If EDHREC put below the cards you searched other cards that do the same things or almost similar things as the the car you looked up. It would make deckbuilding research on their site much easier. Maybe Tapout should do it to help deckbuilders there.

I love this, being new to magic I ordered my first deck a couple weeks ago and it was like a 40$ budget tribal deck

@BloodLegaZ

4 жыл бұрын

Good for you! What tribe did you choose?

@jrtorres9823

4 жыл бұрын

@@BloodLegaZ thanks i went with cats cuz well cats haha

I actually built a pako voltron deck that splashes control that works very well. I even managed to only have 3 creatures in the deck so I could have pure value

pako and haldan are my favorite partners from the set and im happy they made this video about them. ill show it to my friends who spoke trash about them

Im building my very first homebrewed edh deck using this as inspiration along with your updated template episode. Im naming the deck Haldan....Lets Pako Bout It

Love u guys! Keep up the great work.

The partner cards in the 2020 precons are all pretty decent. I hope we see another duo featured in a deck tech.

Did anyone else notice that Haldan's outfit is made out of Pako fur? Did Pako have a brother who "ran away"? Anyways, love the deck tech Jimmy. Can't wait for more deck tech concepts from command zone. Obosh was really fun to watch too. I know at least one person in my playgroup who's planning to build this commander and I will for sure reference them to your video. Keep up the hard work. You guys rock!

Love the content you guys make

something you guys didn't mention when talking about the card Trinket Mage...it can grab the artifact lands, turning it into a blue Borderland Ranger/Civic Wayfinder/District Guide...I'm sure most people already knew this but that little bit of extra versatility really pushes Trinket Mage into the "staple" category when talking about budget commander decks...

I still think it would have been cool, or would be cool, to see how everybody is working in their own space, like a behind the scenes vlog style of what The Command Zone looks like now.

Josh says "It's a free deck" about a $60 deck, next thing you know he'll be passing out fetches because they're just lands lol

@wbw911

4 жыл бұрын

he did Sharpie a Lion's Eye Diamond as a Birds of Paradise... XD

@3nertia

4 жыл бұрын

It's free for them because they have sponsors - unlike the rest of us heh

Why settle for extra attack steps when you can just go for extra turns? Also, "untap all lands" cards like Bear Umbra will allow you to cast the cards you steal faster.

"Peasants, commander with good cards in the deck, this product is not for you."

Fury storm sounds so damn good in this deck and in Kalamax!!!!! I like instantly paused the video and ordered one for a dollar fifty !!!

So good finally hearing them talking about actual strategy instead of just cramming goodstuff. EDHREC is a sweet site. I am happy they have been getting really good at deck building. I'm a longtime listener and if you listen to old podcasts it's all goodstuff all the time

What a delightful thing to wake up to

I might make this since I made a sen triplets budget deck

3:27 "Every card deserves equal sleevage" Truer words have never been spoken. Thank you Jimmy, also It is nice to know that Josh is a monster. I don't care if the sleeve is worth more than the card it physically Pains me to play without sleeves anymore 😭

@andrewlaverghetta715

4 жыл бұрын

I sleeve my cheap decks with UltraPro. I sleeve my good decks with BCW.

I would suggest the guys from the Quest for the Janklord channel to be featured on a budget deck Game Knights episode or on a podcast on a budget decktech like this. Those guys are awesome, their content is really creative and entertaining. And Mitch have collaborated with them already. ;)

Great deck-tech! I'm curious to know where you guys would rate this on the 1-10 power scale. I think that could be an interesting addition to future deck-tech videos if you can squeeze in an extra minute or 2 for some thoughts/discussion about it.

@MrEvan1932

4 жыл бұрын

Probably a 6, definitely more on the casual side

I have an idea for a budget pako and haldan tribal eldrazi deck tech where we would focus on eldrazi with abilities like "put an exiled card into an oponents graveyard and do this or that" and on generating eldrazi spawn that can be sacrificed for a colorless mana to be used as mana of any color to cast cards exiled with pako through haldan's hability.

More of this, please ;-)

It seems like the 'Scry' mechanic would work really well for manipulating the top card(s) of your library in this deck.

i have a bookmark for your affiliate link so i can support you guys without having to remember everytime

Is Ultrapro going to do C20 sleeves? I bought all the precons for the first time and was hoping to deck them all out with their specific sleeves.

Definitely looks like a fun deck. My Pako and Haldan is more of a landfall deck.

aboshan's desire was my biggest surprise when i built pako

i hope that they doing a homebrew budget deck in the next game knights episode

YES! Best boy deck!

I would add rogue passague, whispersilk cloak and wings of hubris to make sure pako can hit or kill

How about adding Chakram Slinger and Chakram Retriever to the deck for flavor? They would fetch each other, thinning your deck a bit and all the spells you cast through the game will trigger Chakram Retiever's ability frequently.

Hey Jimmi, hey Josh👋🏼 maybe, because it’s not possible to record Game Knights right now, you could play some relaxed rounds of duel commander. Because of the lower action ingame, due to the 1v1 situation, there are less animations and „interviews“ to do.

Consider the Processors from Battle for Zendikar, especially Void Attendant or Oracle of Dust. The ability to retrieve your opponent's cards from exile is a great bargaining chip. It'll almost make them forget you exiled those cards in the first place...

I'm kinda sad no one played Silvar and Trynna. I recently got to pilot the deck and man Silvar can do some work

can u do more budget decks in the future

That g fuel sponsorship is some shade thrown at keemstar right about now XD

@sirbobbya

4 жыл бұрын

How?

I was building mine today, nice timing ! Here are some cards that I added in mine (for fun, mostly) : - Precognition (your artefacts seem to do this trick better but I don't own a copy of them) gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/details.aspx?multiverseid=4717 - Ether Well gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=3336 - Ransack : gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=21069 - Portent (I prefered it over Brainstorm) : gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=451052 For the rest, I went for a hybrid "card draws for everyone"/"self-mill" sub-theme which doesn't specially goes well with these partners but that's just a deck for fun. The only thing I would possibly add to yours are ways to protect Pako a little more. Something like Dolmen Gate or Whispersilk Cloak. Probably outside of the budget, however.

Built my version to make as many copies of the seven dwarves as possible 🧙‍♂️

I might be wrong here, but Haldan clearly states "You may play noncreature cards from exile with fetch counters on them if you exiled them". They emphasised cast trigger synergies between on-board effects and Haldan's ability a number of times, but isn't there a crucial difference between "playing a card" and "casting a card"? Really Fun Tech! "Steal your stuff in moderation", might not ruffle feathers as much as "steal all your stuff". Keeping and updating multiple decks can still be quite expensive.

@commandcast

4 жыл бұрын

To play a card you cast it. However the word Play is used here so you can play the lands you exile with Pako. You cannot cast lands, which is why I’m assuming the card is written this way. - jimmy

I love them

What I love about pako and haldan is there are many different ways to build this deck. Vultron with equipment and/or auras. Super friends. Spell slinger. Mr. Steal your stuff.

I think I'd might make a cycling deck with it or run cards that manipulate the top of my deck. In mitches words I enjoy relying on my own cards rather than my opponents. Another ways to protect pakko and go voltron

Lol so Gfuel dropped Keem for you guys? Seems like a good trade!

PLEASE DO MORE BUDGET DECKS

Lantern Control is super viable in EDH I run a sulti mill deck with Vantress Gargoyle its very fun!!!!!

Glad you guys are doing deck Techs again. I love them but for a while they disappeared

Are you guys planning on doing a Zaxara build?

2 views 6 like seem legit... I love seeing your decks

I was scared that this video would affect the prices of my budget Pako deck that I was building, lucky that the crossover of cards arent that plentifull.