I had not known this and I have been that person to flinch when seeing painted woodwork in a Victorian house. It's good to know this info also from a design standpoint if one is trying to mimic these time periods in a modern home. Thank you!

@anniasamples5847

3 жыл бұрын

yes very enteresting to learn about painted vintage woodwork ,,i didnt know that ,,we can tell you really love your work and learn yourself and teach ..i would love to buy a huge old place and spend the rest of my life restoring

You can tell if it was stained before if you take off a small spot and it comes off easy down to the wood. My house it was easy to tell none of it was originally finished (1910 and significant remodel in 1940s) because the bottom layer was stained and had varnish. Due to the remodel, I had to custom mill new baseboards for most of the house as well as some of the walls in the hallway and dining room. I don’t judge people not wanting to strip the wood. It’s a huge messy task! Some of my rooms had 8 layers of paint! It took months to do.

Excellent video. I love learning about the history of houses. Years ago I went into real estate because I loved houses so much, but realized I just wanted to see the inside of houses....I was lousy at selling them!

@growinggenerationshomestea516

Жыл бұрын

Lol so funny, I love houses so much too and thought about being a realtor. I haven't been able to sell my organic free range eggs so I bet I would have same luck as you lol

Wow! Loved this as I have always been curious about this subject! So glad my 1929 craftsman's woodwork had never been painted though! Great info and this is why I love your channel!

@uscitizen898

3 жыл бұрын

Well your 1929 Craftsman is from the period when natural wood was in style. So that would be the most authentic look for your home's design.

Get ready for a million shares of your very informative video Laine! Lots of folks with the "vapors" over painted woodwork will have a new perspective!

I did not know that. Thanks for sharing your knowledge

Thank you, Every person who walks in my house has a comment about the wood work painted antique white. It was built 1860 and I think it looks great! Just now found you, I'm going to binge watch you!💛💜

We lived in a home that had NOT been massively remodeled when I was a teen. It was built in 1803, and the main part was HUGE, massive hand-hewn logs 15-20+ inches wide and likely as thick front to back. The upstairs was one large room and the upper 1/3 of the logs were left exposed. You could see the tool marks on them. All the ceiling rafters were exposed as well. The lower 2/3s were covered in... not clapboards, but just horizontal fitted boards (like the spaces on lined paper) THOSE boards were... PAINTED. The mantle was painted, the FLOORS were painted. (seemed to be a type of milk-paint on the walls) There was a really interesting door (That was about 5' 5" high and the hand-hewn logs exposed) that had been cut into the wall to enter the added on kitchen (which was huge with a 12 foot ceiling of "beadboard") Later, a second door was cut into another wall (but was framed to hide the logs) into 2 added bedrooms. They were the old type that were "shotgun" (walk through one to get to the other). Those rooms were also "walled" in the same manner as had been the original portion of the house. I have no idea when the add-ons were, but they were also quite old. The house sat on rock pillars and had an almost 5' tall crawl=space under it. It was not a pretty house, but very utilitarian. One thing and another, my parents divorced, my step-father was an alcoholic and unable to retain a job, so my mother lost the house. I had graduated by then, and was moving out when everyone had to move, and the house went up in flames one night. In fact it was completely engulfed in less than 3 minutes per one of the neighbors, and gone before the fire dept could get there from 2 miles away. The property had an old cemetery on it, that was NEVER a part of the "selling portion". Some of the graves had dates of birth back to the 1700s, and keeping edjits out on halloween was always a huge job!

@OurRestorationNation

2 жыл бұрын

I’m so sorry that the house was lost. Sounds like an amazing early example.

I think people get heated when they see originally unpainted wood being painted... if it has no paint on it it was most likely not originally painted.... and then there's time period to consider.

Very interesting!! Thank you for the clarity on this subject!! I had always believed it was a sin to paint old wood trim and though when I saw it, it had been painted over at some point. I had no idea that cheaper wood , that needed to be painted, was used even in the old days lol

Thank you so much for this most enlightening information! I can’t believe that I didn’t know about the painting of wood since my family is in the antique business. Of course they didn’t deal with restoring houses , but if I’d asked about it I bet one of my family members would have known.

Awesome video!! We have a Greek Revival and we always get hated on for the painted woodwork but it’s original!

Funny, I had my custom cabinets crafted from knotty pine ON PURPOSE lol four years ago. I chose it because it reminded me of cabins my family stayed in on vacation when I was a kid. Love it!!!

@laineeden

3 жыл бұрын

We had them in our 1952 lake house and loved them- but in both cases we get to use it in moderation and not in the whole house!

@basilrana8657

3 жыл бұрын

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I never knew that thanks. My wife and I love old homes. The build quality is much better than newer homes. We live in a older home and love it. When we viewed it before purchase I was like why did they paint the woodwork?

there was another video I watched recently about a victorian home where the owner was describing how the original staircase had been painted dark green but the owner before her stripped it down hoping for pretty wood but it was really red and ugly so they repainted.

Hi Laine, Thank you for the class. It was very interesting! :)

You are so smart. I really enjoy the historic architectural information you provide on your videos. Thank you 😊😊

@aomsombat7248

3 жыл бұрын

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I want more ghost stories. U have a great talent in telling stories. Well, talent in talking anyway and not meaning this in a bad way. Great videos. Thx

I loved this video. I love the lesson and that it goes over multiple types of homes!

Thanks for sharing your knowledge, I learn so much from you!! And I was wondering why faux bois would be used on an already wood door, now I know.

Thank God you have told the truth about painted woodwork!🤗😊🥰 As a former interior decorator I've tried to explain this to so many people who don't believe me! And using the Victorian Period as an example--- The period historially actually went from 1837-1901 but like today, people didn't simply stop using "old" styles in their homes because Queen Victoria died! They often harkened back to some older styles even though newer ideas were coming about. Personally I love painted woodwork. Like you said, painting less expensive wood tends to give it a prettier look.

@OurRestorationNation

3 жыл бұрын

Scholars actually date them US Victorian period to at minimum 1910 and some to ad late as 1923

Am glad I watched because I learned something. ❤ I'm the current caretaker of a 1913 stick vernacular. The home inspector said he saw 5 different styles within the home. I Kay have to install a period piece chair rail and bishop's board to deal with protruding light switch and electrical outlet in the dining room?

Thanks very much. Great history lesson on interior design in homes.

Thank you so much for this info. I see a lot of people on youtube and IG as you do who spend countless hours stripping painted doors, casings, baseboards and cabinets. I would always think am I nuts? I love the clean look of white. If I had an historic house I would paint the woodwork. You did a great service today and I thank you!

You have a natural gift of making a nice presentation. Thank you

I love painted wood so this is refreshing to hear. Although it can look elegant and rich, stained wood walls and trim makes a place dark. I always find dark places depressing, I don’t think I could live in one…..I would want an historic home front an era of painted moldings.

Your knowledge is amazing, Laine. Thank you for sharing with us.

Wow this was so interesting and informative!😳 thank you ! BTW when I was telling you about old Louisville Kentucky the other day I forgot to mention they have the third largest community of Victorian Greek revival Italianate homes I believe there are a few others as well I just can't remember off the top of my head sorry!

@kaybonette

3 жыл бұрын

Laurel Ms has a very large historic district with many old homes and my husband and I got to walk and drive around it. We even walked by Ben and Erin's house when they were landscaping the front yard. It was such a treat.

Excellent info! gonna have to watch that several times to get all the goody out! 🤩👏👏👏👍❤️

Thank you! This is so very true and needed to be said.

As a painter when I tell people that the woodwork in their Victorian has always been painted they look at me like an idiot. I can tell by the quality and hardness, fillers, and colors, usually behind the newer paints.

This!!!!!! Thank you SO much for this video and information, Laine!!! So helpful!!! We’ve caught heck at times, for painting wood in our Victorian. You’ve explained this so thoroughly that it makes sense AND, makes me glad we followed our gut!!!! Dorothy- The Barrow House & Gardens of Louisburg

That was very informative. I’m so glad you brought this out. Always been a question of mine too. I like painted woodwork just as much as natural. Not sure why people get so upset about it. It’s all just in your choice, just like today. Some go for solid wood some go white. Do what you want . It’s your house . You have to live with it. Enjoy it!!!

Much of our beliefs about how wood should be unpainted stems from the Arts and Crafts movement, which promoted natural, local materials (wood and stone) with clean lines.

@robertrandolph2340

3 жыл бұрын

The river yeah I really got to be here to nine David's North going back

Thank you so much for the history lesson! I was honestly one who would get irritated watching someone paint old woodwork, and now I understand why.

I am enjoying your channel. It just popped up one day, didnt know you had a channel. I grew up in a house built in 1919. I remember it had a lot of pretty woodwork, not painted.

I don't get upset when someone leaves paint on woodwork. Why destroy the original design unless you really don't like it? I'm all for keeping things as original & authentic as possible, including paint. May need a fresh coat, that's all. I only hate it when they get a home that has beautiful, high-quality woodwork that has never been painted....and they paint over all of it. Like the ones shown at 4:00 - 4:17. There are people who would not hesitate to cover all of that with paint. Usually white paint. I've been house-hunting online, and found a Craftsman/Arts-and-Crafts style home for sale yesterday....they painted every inch of wood in that house white. Even the doors & the ceiling beams....to which they added thin red uneven stripes. They even painted the wooden floors. They took a beautiful historic home and made it hideous. Made my stomach hurt lol.

This was so informative. I love historic structures and always cringed when i saw painted over woodwork this is good to know! I love stained woodwork especially staircases and doors.

Thank you for this great information at which I never new. Although I love to see unpainted wood but it’s has to be of oak or black walnut n many other kinds. I see your point in why they painted certain wood even popular wood was a good one to paint. Thanks Laine I’m gonna save this video for future reference. ♥️😊👍

Thank you! It drives me nuts that people get these ideas stuck in there heads and won't let go!

My city has an Institute of Arts with "period rooms" removed from old homes. One such room was an 18th century neoclassical room from England. When the room was purchased and installed in the museum in the 1920's, they stripped layers of paint off the panels, pilasters and columns, till they got down to the bare pine. They left the room that way because knotty pine was a trend then. And as you said people think bare wood (even pine) is "better" than painted wood. In the 1980's the room was re-painted in historical colors, as it was never intended that the room be bare pine. I remember there being a lot of heated conversation over the new painted scheme.

@Death-pq3iq

3 жыл бұрын

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Glad to hear this what I dislike is ripping perfectly good wood out for say drywall.

@banidp5467

3 жыл бұрын

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Awesome history!! Thank you!!

Always great information Laine, thank you!

Thank you! Very good history lesson!

Very interesting and eye-opening!

Thank you so much for your interesting and informative lecture on this@

My Daddy grew up in Pickens, AR. My granddaddy was the store manager for the farm store there. The farm was owned by R.A. Pickens. Mr. R.A.’s house is the big mansion there in the middle of town. It has greatly deteriorated over the years since his death. It sure would be awesome if y’all went down there and looked at it. Not sure who owns it now. Breaks my heart to see the heart of this little wide spot in the road looking like a haunted mansion. 😩💔

@laineeden

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds absolutely like our kind of place!!!!

@dawnbarnes8729

3 жыл бұрын

Laine Berry would love y’all to check it out! ❤️😊

Thank you! 🙏. I live in a little bungalow house built in 1922, which has beautiful red oak woodwork and floors in the “public” parts of the house, and darkly stained or painted fir in the bedrooms (the red oak strip flooring is throughout the first floor). The remuddler who did so much damage “improving” our house in the 1970s stripped the paint off of the linen closet door, the bathroom door, and the telephone ledge in the hallway, and did a crappy job varnishing them. They WILL get repainted!

THANK YOU 😁 My House is from 1860s Queen Anne cottage, we know that she wasnt here in the 1862 bc of a drawing but we have a remodel permit for early 1870 to take down the 5 fireplaces and add oil. She doesnt have a lot left original interior wise, due to a heavy 1940s remodel, and painters who stole my gable fretwork in the 90s I believe the neighbors said. So I try to find what I can, and her first colors were ochre yellow and a green matcha-ish shade. She feels really weird when I try to add 1870s victorian details, even architecture friends have said it's like she gives off a more French (fancy) Victorian vibe on the inside... All that to say, if you could recommend books or websites for an 1860s queen anne I would love it, I struggle to find them. PS. I am painting her white with small black and gold details, she looks modern yet very french....

All I have to say us while I hate painted woodwork, I stripped and refinished the painted woodwork in my 100 year old house. Some of the doors had deep scratches in them, turns out the scratches were only in the paint, the thick paint protected the wood.

@brushcreek42

3 жыл бұрын

What was the species of wood?

@sandyhearn8332

3 жыл бұрын

@@brushcreek42 pine

@brushcreek42

3 жыл бұрын

@@sandyhearn8332 I hate painted woodwork too and am not crazy about varnished pine, but I like it better than painted pine.

Thank you for this, Laine! This was so interesting, and I loved hearing and seeing how the styles changed through the years and why!

@marwaalhaddad3760

3 жыл бұрын

Hi John

Does one determine the type of wood before determining whether to leave the paint or strip it?

THANKS👍😊

Don't believe stain grade wood should EVER be painted! Now I don't know if there was such a distinction 200 years ago or Victorian era but this business of painting high quality wood in OUR TIME is just ridiculous. Had a stained wood front door (with oval glass) on a very nice home that I was fixing up to sale. People were suggesting I PAINT the door as "it is the latest thing". That door was over 800 dollars in 1985 and to replace would be about 2000 dollars in 2015. NOT ABOUT to paint that lovely wood. I restained it. Seen numerous women in many circle of friends /family paint over Stain grade cabinets in their kitchens in the last 10 years. A few of them have admitted it was a mistake and wished they had not done it. Just because it is more work does not mean it is not worth it to restain.

Curious to hear your thoughts on painted brick, especially on interior fireplaces.

@laineeden

3 жыл бұрын

Brick is a substance that needs to breathe. Limewash will still allow that process to occur, but latex or oil based paints will halt the natural exchange of gases and cause spalling

I'm wondering how much of my 1885 Victorian was originally painted because I have very fancy woodwork in much of the downstairs, but not so much upstairs

Very informative, I personally hate painted woodwork but don't live in a historic home. I would however love to live in one!!

I loved this video. So informative!

Yes, and that narrow window of time has been lost to white trim and grey walls because CHIP AND JOANNA has become "my preference, taste, and style" and has over saturated available homes for sale. Also, do people really think all woodwork was never painted? That seems funny to me since old homes are, you know, built entirely out of wood, and that wood is usually painted. I do like that you share specific era and styles of American homes though. Obviously there are always exceptions. Personally, I think a house is its most beautiful and interesting when it wears the flavors true to its architecture.

THANK YOU!!! In the restoration groups I am in, the dogma of NEVER PAINT TRIM runs so strong. Makes me absolutely crazy!

@naveendon880

3 жыл бұрын

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"DON"T PAINT THE..." seems to be a mantra for some people! I say it is protecting the wood (or plastic!) underneath!

Thanks for the information…

My house is 1890 and most of the woodwork has not been painted. Still on my to do list to rid the paint that is left. IMO don't buy an old girl if paint is your plan to "restore" .

Love painted woodwork.

Very informative! Thank yah!

Great Video!!!!

Thank you!

Great information!

Well said and Well explained. Thank you.

You are amazing!

I enjoy how knowledgeable you are about architecture and decor. Was that your major in college? Thank You

In the old farmhouses in my New England neighborhood, the "front parlor" may have had painted woodwork, but quite often the kitchen did not. And the wood that they used for trim around doors and windows rarely had knots, so it looked quite handsome as it darkened with age. The front parlor was where they received their guests, and the bright paint made it look classy. The kitchen was a work area, and smoke from the wood stove would darken paint, so they didn't bother with it. At least that's my theory.

I’m very late to comment but I hope you will see it--I have a Second Empire from 1860s. I just stripped the paint off the staircase including newel posts, railing and balusters. The railing, newel posts and balusters are mahogany, so I assume they were never painted. But the stair treads and risers seem to be pine. What is your best guess to making it historically accurate? Would the stairs and treads have been painted, but the railing and balusters shellacked?

Great info on painted wood. I take issue with pink in Colonial homes, though. The Colonial colors were all feather “earthy” shades. An Indian red which had brown in it; the green was muddy except for the lighter shade and the same with the blue. The ochre was indeed a mustardy hue. But even in the “lighter” shades there was nothing approaching a pastel…not even close. You can see some fairly correct historical colors on Benjamin Moor’s site and Sherwin Williams. Although they offer many more choices than were actually available back in the 17th century. Back then bases and pigments were limited and pretty much you got what you got! A far cry from today!

Thumbs up because I learned something. Thank you for the lesson.

That was such great information! I never thought about the painted surfaces brightening up the rooms before electricity, but it all makes sense when they transitioned to unpainted natural wood. Your makeup always looks beautiful!

Oh I think the painted wood work is beautiful ❤️

People often forget that the Victorian era was so long, that there were early, mid and late Victorian.

@hollyshort1109

3 жыл бұрын

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@haahaa6231

3 жыл бұрын

tkt. 😠😕😢😐@@gloriahanes5338

@haahaa6231

3 жыл бұрын

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Well... No. The only time, I will complain about painted wood, is when you see people buy a wonderful, period home, that actually HAS original, unpainted wooden interiors - and THEN they paint everything white, because thats whats fashionable..... 😑

@laineeden

3 жыл бұрын

I agree completely!

So interesting

Absolutely!!!

The movie GIANT with Rock Hudson, Elizabeth Taylor, and James Dean has the awesome ranch home change interior color through the years of the story! Watch and enjoy!

So nice to know this history!

I feel kind of bad now for commenting about painted wood in videos.

@barbaraness4507

3 жыл бұрын

@@gloriahanes5338 Yeah. I guess I was always focused on the natural wood look that I love. I have a cabin that my husband finished the entire inside with natural wood and I won’t put anything Omit. It smells delightful in there, and is so pretty!

Knotty Pine is Gorgeous

@OurRestorationNation

3 жыл бұрын

It is, in its place. Typical Colonial and Federal period builders wanted formal looks in their formal spaces, and knotty pine is not typically a formal wood.

I like painted woodwork if it's period colors and would of been. However it's so hard to restore with so many layers of paint has hidden carved details. I believe in stripping that then repainting. But if you want to talk about painted woodwork, stop painting antiques people! I've seen so many pieces ruined!

Seems like I read once paint was a sign of wealth. Especially painted walls.

I’m definitely a fan of painted wood. Great video. Thanks!

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Hmm , i just love natural woods .

Thank you so much for this!! Next time someone tells me to strip our historic mouldings I will be able to refer them to your video!

What was the expression at 0:30 it sounded French!

@OurRestorationNation

3 жыл бұрын

Quel dommage- “oh no”, or “what pity”

Glad to hear this. I was feeling guilty that our 1840s home has all painted woodwork.

A wonderful explanation of historical woodwork!

Y’all should connect with “The 2nd Empire Strikes Back” who is working on a house in St. Louis. That’s only 5 1/2 hrs from you. Check his videos out. He’s planning on replacing windows, maybe you can talk him out of it.

@amycavin168

3 жыл бұрын

Like Laine, he is pretty opinionated. I enjoy both channels as well.

I will always criticise badly painted wood though and they will always choose a yucky color🤢

@mansoorvefa8378

3 жыл бұрын

جهت

Thank you! Now I wind argument with my husband. 🤣

Painted woodwork can look beautiful, but leave the stone ALONE

Dknow hmm