Paint Depth Readings For Most Makes And Models!! Clear Coat Hardness!

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This is the first video in a short series as I share paint depth readings for most makes and models as they pass through the shop. I will also let you know if the clear coat is soft, moderate, or hard. GOOD Automotive Paint Thickness Readings | 110-125 microns (~4.8-5.5 mils) Automotive paint thickness gauge readings, averaging between 110-125 microns (3.5-4.8 mils) fall within the general range of most modern factory vehicles. A coating thickness gauge (also referred to as a paint meter) is used to measure dry film thickness.
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  • @apexdetail85
    @apexdetail85 Жыл бұрын

    I will share paint depth readings as more makes and models pass through our shop......stay tuned!

  • @muchachogrande2019

    @muchachogrande2019

    Жыл бұрын

    I've actually had this idea for awhile and I feel it would be absolutely brilliant to create a Google sheets document or something similar, that detailers can reference and update/confirm the details of the finishes they're running into overtime. Doesn't even have to be collaborative as long as it's somebody that will take the 10 or so minutes to actually gather the readings and then add them to the list.

  • @BananerRepublic

    @BananerRepublic

    Жыл бұрын

    nissan / infiniti please.... also insight into high end bodyshop paint / clear coat vs oem would be great!

  • @mrBDeye
    @mrBDeyeАй бұрын

    With so many paint polishing channels on KZread, they never talk about measuring the clear coat.

  • @jonschmunk7719
    @jonschmunk7719 Жыл бұрын

    Outstanding information Brian. Thank you!!

  • @bigd9848
    @bigd9848 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent as always Brian 👍🏻

  • @scotbrown7305
    @scotbrown7305 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome and informative video. Thank you for always trying to help and educate us from your experience.

  • @kimnewling5728
    @kimnewling5728 Жыл бұрын

    Very very helpful. Awesome! Thank you Brian.

  • @millerdetailing4176
    @millerdetailing4176 Жыл бұрын

    Great video and topic to review and cover.

  • @javigarcia3823
    @javigarcia3823 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Brian. Like always very helpful video.

  • @MNpicker
    @MNpicker Жыл бұрын

    Clear coat depth knowledge is a very good thing 🤓

  • @Xaviers300ZX
    @Xaviers300ZX Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this info!! Great overview Brian

  • @mikeyp2447
    @mikeyp2447 Жыл бұрын

    Very informative!!

  • @norcalspitshine6406
    @norcalspitshine6406 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the education.

  • @dtna
    @dtna Жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Thnx!

  • @whitewalker9622
    @whitewalker9622 Жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @Enthusiast_detailing
    @Enthusiast_detailing Жыл бұрын

    This is amazing Information!

  • @themachine8009
    @themachine8009 Жыл бұрын

    Wow. A $50k paint reader. Could’ve never imagined

  • @richsmith3120
    @richsmith3120 Жыл бұрын

    Looks like a paint depth meter will become mandatory for all paint correction!

  • @marklittleton1309
    @marklittleton1309 Жыл бұрын

    Wow, great video Brian. As an enthusiast who does mine and few friends' cars here and there, it makes me hesitant to even touch the paint with a polisher. I don't think I'll ever do more than a quick enhancement, with MAYBE a few spot corrections. That ice is too thin for somebody like me who doesn't do this all the time...

  • @z06rcr
    @z06rcr Жыл бұрын

    I was pleasantly surprised to get readings around 6.2 to 6.8 on my Cadillac CT6 where my Infiniti shows 4.2 .. Good thing , because the paint is soft. Would love to measure my Corvette but can’t justify the cost of a PosiTector 200.

  • @basketball798
    @basketball798 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Brian the thickness of a paint doesn't necessarily mean soft or hard paint. Early 2000s Mercedes have a thickness of 3.5-4mills but the paint is extremely hard (solvent base). The newer paints on most cars now are waterbase and even if they are 8mills thick they won't be as hard as 4mill thick solvent base paint. Great video as always.

  • @davestewart9146
    @davestewart9146 Жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately when you buy a used car there’s no way to tell what the paint thickness was when it was new especially if it’s been corrected, great video Brian 👍😁

  • @neilwalker5041
    @neilwalker5041 Жыл бұрын

    I’m like the lady in the Wendy’s commercials yelling Where’s the Beef?

  • @danmorrissette4814
    @danmorrissette4814 Жыл бұрын

    some Nissan and Mazda have less then 3.5 the you get a Pearl metalic Ford shoots up to 9... The Depth Gauge was my best investment thanks to Brian... Also had Porsche with repairs at different panels... original front fenders were 3.1 repainted doors at 6.5 other panels different reading, real nightmare loll± owner wasnt told of repairs.. GET THE Gauge !!!!

  • @melindaroy3679
    @melindaroy3679 Жыл бұрын

    Very informative video. Have any numbers on 2023 Kias? Sportages and Tellurides? Thanks Brian!

  • @ronayotte3571
    @ronayotte3571 Жыл бұрын

    I often get asked what tool is my most important one in detailing... and that is my NexDiag NexPTG paint depth gauge. Don't polish a car without it!

  • @747rotate
    @747rotate Жыл бұрын

    Hey Brian since we're on the subject of test equipment I just purchased a Landtek gm-6 gloss meter and for the life of me I'm not quite understanding the instructions to calibrate it. When the cal light comes on the screen and I push measure it says 96.4 like what is stated on the calibration stand. When I place the meter on the stand the readings are all over the place. Instructions said it should read 96.4 which it isn't. I'm about at my wits end trying to calibrate it and it's driving me crazy. Is there a simplified method I can try?

  • @arabinow
    @arabinow Жыл бұрын

    Hi Brian.. would you recommend Sonax Perfect finish with a Yellow Rupes pad for a 1 step solution on a Tesla model y?

  • @detailerslife8127
    @detailerslife8127 Жыл бұрын

    Had a 2008 Toyota Corolla recently, one correction in its life, Clear Coat (Black,Very Soft) very good condition 300,000 Klms, had an average reading of 5.6 mils all round. New Mazda's/Honda's around 2.5-3.1 mils.

  • @riceburner4747

    @riceburner4747

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank u. Most detailing shops just show exotics. I figured Toyota was soft, had no idea its thickness.

  • @detailerslife8127

    @detailerslife8127

    Жыл бұрын

    @@riceburner4747 That's why I like what Brian at Apex Detail does, he's not just showing the Very Expensive Exotics. He's such a down to earth guy without all the fluff and B.S

  • @nickgeorgiakakis7249

    @nickgeorgiakakis7249

    Жыл бұрын

    I have a 2017 Corolla, clear coat is still very soft. Note to self , be very careful if wet sanding out any scratches, clear coat is very thin.

  • @Spirited282

    @Spirited282

    Жыл бұрын

    I have no access to a gauge but i heard the newer toyota's the paint is very thin, Would have loved to know that of my 2021 Rav 4

  • @RJLM330
    @RJLM330 Жыл бұрын

    So I have a large motor hom that had clear bra put on in 2000. It has turned Black cracked. It is impossible to remove. Tried adhesive remover heat gun 3M rubber wheel steam cleaner. NOTHING TAKES IT OFF What do you recommend. Absolutely enjoy your info on all aspects of your explanation THANKS MUCH

  • @kennethschei6957
    @kennethschei6957 Жыл бұрын

    This is why fillers in product is necessary 😊👍

  • @riceburner4747
    @riceburner4747 Жыл бұрын

    Toyotas? Soft? More involved than ppl think. Thank u! 👍

  • @MichaelBrianInc
    @MichaelBrianInc Жыл бұрын

    Can you also do this on headlights to check clear coat depths?

  • @Secret_Sun33
    @Secret_Sun33 Жыл бұрын

    So these are readings for virgin unpolished paint? From what year onward would you say they cheaped out on clear?

  • @AntEloftheHouseofEl
    @AntEloftheHouseofEl Жыл бұрын

    Love the video Brian. I have a 2020, German made VW and it has the hardest clear I've ever known in my life! Even a Megs microfibre cutting pad is producing about 1/4 I'd normally get on any other paint! It's like Rocky Balboa, in an Iron-man suit, driving a tank! 3 years old now, 30,000 miles and no scratches whatsoever - just some swirling. I'd love to know if the VAG group have started using something new, or if the technicians just gave it multiple coats for a laugh! 🤣

  • @ronayotte3571

    @ronayotte3571

    Жыл бұрын

    I detail an Audi Q5 that has paint as hard as granite... and it is black.

  • @AntEloftheHouseofEl

    @AntEloftheHouseofEl

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ronayotte3571 deep black pearl by any chance?

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    They missed the memo of switching over to waterbourn clear coat .....good for them.

  • @AntEloftheHouseofEl

    @AntEloftheHouseofEl

    Жыл бұрын

    @@apexdetail85 whatever they are using, I'm pretty sure Captain America will want it on his bloody shield too! 🤣

  • @brianjohnston7344

    @brianjohnston7344

    Жыл бұрын

    what model VW?

  • @marcuslima2535
    @marcuslima253510 ай бұрын

    hey mate, i bought one of those and tried on the paint of my car and my friends car, on my car was around 7 to 8 mils in most areas and its an oold car, and on my friends car there was some areas with 11 mils, is that right? not look repainted cars

  • @marioskosmidhs9454
    @marioskosmidhs9454 Жыл бұрын

    Great video again sir. Can i ask? How we know that the clear coat is thinner? And not just thinner primer and thinner based color? ( OEM manufacturers in Europe report's lately that due to changes on metals and materials witch they can adhire easier the layers , now they need less primer and less color base on their paint systems)

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    Since we mostly do not have 50K tools to make sure....I personally err on the side of safety and always assume there is less clear.

  • @kosarmuhammad9209
    @kosarmuhammad9209 Жыл бұрын

    Does it only measure the thickness of the clear coat? Or the total amount of substances on the plate such as paint, etc., How much less is the number not suitable for polishing? thank you❤

  • @Chris-wb7ni
    @Chris-wb7ni Жыл бұрын

    That’s my next purchase is a depth meter

  • @manrex5238
    @manrex5238 Жыл бұрын

    Hey bother thanks for your videos as instructional as always now I’m an aficionado trying to get better as I can and I would love to know which paint thickness measure device is good and affordable not in the top(expensive) but definitely not on the cheap side,a funny story I asked the same question to esoteric detail and his answer: I do not recommend neither use cheap staff in our shop…. bloody bastard I did not asked for the cheapest but neither for a 1,000 dollars one I’m not a bloody millionaire like you 😂😂😂😂

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    The Nicety shown in this video works just fine.

  • @tundrawhisperer4821
    @tundrawhisperer4821 Жыл бұрын

    After you’ve done a one step on a thin clear coat and then it comes time to needing another correction, do you just go get a new clear coat applied? Thx

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    I do everything I possibly can to avoid needing correction again.

  • @davidgeroge9330
    @davidgeroge9330 Жыл бұрын

    Great info , where do all the Asian cars read ? Hyundai, Toyota, Nissan etc...

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    Thin and soft....unfortunately.

  • @waynewoodrick5055
    @waynewoodrick5055 Жыл бұрын

    When there are variable numbers on the readings, is the variable usually the clear coat ? Example: one reading 3.8 on the hood and 4.8 on the door. Does that mean the door has more clear?

  • @TrealTalk187

    @TrealTalk187

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes the door got sprayed more clear that day in the factory by the mechanical arm robot painters

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    Not necessarily... but I always err on the side of caution and assume there is more of the primer or color coat.

  • @93rt
    @93rt Жыл бұрын

    I've heard Koenigseggs put up to .030" of paint on. Any regular car company put 10 or more on their cars?

  • @oursulaert
    @oursulaert Жыл бұрын

    Thank you what about landrovers the iconic old style shape with no clear coat

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    plenty of single stage to work with.

  • @ac7384
    @ac73847 ай бұрын

    What about Toyota and there thickeness and hardness ?

  • @shoemaker924
    @shoemaker924 Жыл бұрын

    how to these measurements compare to older gen cars? for example, early 2000s, 90s, 80s? was clear thicker back then? i assume it's gotten thinner due to tech and cost savings.

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    Thicker as you go back through the years.

  • @thefinder8087
    @thefinder8087 Жыл бұрын

    Kind of shocked that Chrysler has better clear coat than BWM and Jag, I mean I am glad to hear it because I drive a RAM but it is very surprising.

  • @larrysing
    @larrysing Жыл бұрын

    I’m a bit confused here. It seems as if you’re saying that anything under five mils can’t or shouldn’t be compounded? Is that just a general rule for safety purposes or do you consider that a hard and fast rule?

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    Just in general.

  • @lapulla32
    @lapulla32 Жыл бұрын

    Why is the door jam used as a reference point? I saw a couple of videos of detailers doing that.

  • @waynewoodrick5055

    @waynewoodrick5055

    Жыл бұрын

    Usually no clear on the jams

  • @Aaron-tv6fs

    @Aaron-tv6fs

    5 ай бұрын

    Incorrect. Door jambs are clear coated. Don’t believe me? Try wiping paint reducer in the jambs. It would remove base colour coat, but not clear. Oh you still have paint there? Yeah cause it’s clear coated They use a minimum amount in the door jambs because clear coat protects against UV, and your door jambs aren’t exposed to sun 99% as much as the rest of the exterior

  • @13pcbs
    @13pcbs Жыл бұрын

    Q - how come you always use Mils , surely Microns would show a slight reduction not picked up my Mils?

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    The more expensive tools can accurately measure microns.

  • @awpdevil
    @awpdevil Жыл бұрын

    I'll add an addendum to Chevy, on the newer Camaros including ZL1's, their paint is so soft if you look at it funny it will scratch.

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    There are always exceptions.

  • @paulrogers3511
    @paulrogers3511 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Mercedes newer model??

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    4.0 to 5.0

  • @davescott9062
    @davescott9062 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Brian, I didn't catch the name of your Guage, I clicked the links in the description of the video, one was an Amazon link, didn't see your purple one there, and the other link was $2500 😬 Help!

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    It is a Nicety....www.ebay.com/itm/111245666226?hash=item19e6c227b2:g:JVMAAOSwAaJZ5dB3&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA8N3bcYktEJHSBuDFirJ%2FT1%2BMY02bAQGLJaxH8zNRS6BPBvqASnbIdVy%2BPVKEeQmESfldhl5vzqBIbZJSFnRxOFb3J5equAu6xegex9vZtF3eXwTZXqaSEAEpcV6NAu7lhUzKvckztCw6qJ1vsEj%2FwYr%2Fj%2Fju%2FlrPRzeS2quSmPIZqi1874V7THZ2Oz%2B0M7CuOCvEKO3ES5ljqQnc%2FHt0lQHUfYC1F2S7ZJFhKNPEffaTr8ZgS9OJFCGYI0rjTgccOSkAMzWTX2EJUVUMAtOvsoLGN1VZ%2B1VVNFbLsj2V3CpXZCgh2Pg2vrWAdBPseULWKg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMurLGz-Zh

  • @davescott9062

    @davescott9062

    Жыл бұрын

    @@apexdetail85 many thanks

  • @GeneG-wk2mz
    @GeneG-wk2mz Жыл бұрын

    Who sales the pads ?

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    Which pads?

  • @GeneG-wk2mz

    @GeneG-wk2mz

    Жыл бұрын

    The polish beast pads blue ?

  • @luketuttle1096
    @luketuttle1096 Жыл бұрын

    Seems like all paints going thin and soft! 2 steps corrections be thing of the past before too long. Side note GMC 1500 and Silverado 1500 have same paint

  • @richardseem7948
    @richardseem7948 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video and content good friend

  • @mikeanddebboyers6822
    @mikeanddebboyers6822 Жыл бұрын

    Ballpark on a C5 Corvette?

  • @waynewoodrick5055

    @waynewoodrick5055

    Жыл бұрын

    My paint Guage won't read fiberglass 😢 maybe Brian's does. Corvettes usually have hard clear.

  • @apexdetail85

    @apexdetail85

    Жыл бұрын

    5.5 to 6.5

  • @keatonblaze53
    @keatonblaze53 Жыл бұрын

    Did you just say gm or black gm paint is hard ?

  • @richardseem7948
    @richardseem7948 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome idea for video.scary how clear coat Fluctuates on different panels of vehicles

  • @beableish
    @beableish4 ай бұрын

    clear coat its a thin as a zip lock bag

  • @wendellthompson6470
    @wendellthompson6470 Жыл бұрын

    What the name of the Gage your using BRAIN

  • @The_Cyberz

    @The_Cyberz

    Жыл бұрын

    Watch the video, WENDELL.

  • @riceburner4747

    @riceburner4747

    Жыл бұрын

    And it's spelled gUage.

  • @wendellthompson6470

    @wendellthompson6470

    Жыл бұрын

    @@riceburner4747 next time spell the Guage

  • @davescott9062

    @davescott9062

    Жыл бұрын

    @@The_Cyberz 🤣 classic Misspelled Brian as well.

  • @riceburner4747

    @riceburner4747

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wendellthompson6470 okie dokie Mr Wendell. 😂🤣😁

  • @andrewbailey4177
    @andrewbailey4177 Жыл бұрын

    Audi thin and hard I guess

  • @Lucas-ie2ti
    @Lucas-ie2ti9 ай бұрын

    When doing a two step paint correction your typically removing 0.3. Of your reading 4.0 on a new car, your end result will be 3.7. 1/3 of 4.0 is 1.3 mil of clear coat (roughly).. removing 0.3 from a 1.3 mil clear coat is plenty room go play with. I necessarily wouldn't say "one step" only. Please care to explain. Your presentation seems a bit "worry some"

  • @mitchelllong5848
    @mitchelllong5848 Жыл бұрын

    Wow suck little clear on the newer cars today, sucks, protect it while you can

  • @1stfrompuertorico568
    @1stfrompuertorico568 Жыл бұрын

    First!!!

  • @The_Cyberz
    @The_Cyberz Жыл бұрын

    When you say they have enough clear for a good one-step, do you mean for the life of the clear? Like you can only correct it one time before it would need new clear applied?

  • @paul6749

    @paul6749

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree - this is confusing. If you have a new car, and it’s only safe to polish once in its lifetime, why bother investing in all the kit required?

  • @Scoot8428
    @Scoot8428 Жыл бұрын

    I don't know why people have problem with Tesla's paint I had no problem when I buffed it I don't feel that it's too thin words it's extremely soft or anything compared to any other thing out there I think just people don't like Tesla and then they just put the hate on the whole entire vehicle I see nothing wrong with their pants just as good as any other manufacturer out there

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