I’m very impressed by how calm and composed he was after the crash

@shelbyseelbach9568

3 жыл бұрын

It's all just part of the hobby. You quicky realize that if your not willing to crash it, you don't fly it. You just learn from what happened and start thinking about what plane is going to replace it.

@wraith657

3 жыл бұрын

@@shelbyseelbach9568 I agree with that... I also think it's that he's a real good natured guy too.

@johno9507

3 жыл бұрын

Us model pilots enjoy crashing from time to time because it gives us an excuse to spend more money on another project. 😋

@wraith657

3 жыл бұрын

@@johno9507 I agree with that... I actually love building them more than flying them.

@gogogeedus

3 жыл бұрын

It's an ARF he didn't spend a hundreds hours building it,he can just go to the model shop and by another, you can;t by another scratch built model.

You can tell this guy's been doing RC for a while. Very balanced and analytical "NTSB" approach to the crash.

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

Жыл бұрын

Thank You. Yes they are all destine to crash no matter how long one has been flying. After a crash this train of thought comes in.

WOW that’s not good! Sorry for your loss she was a beautiful bird. Glad that most of the components survived including the engine.

Condolences, what a great looking plane! Looking forward to the Corsair. Thanks for sharing the losses with the wins so we can all learn from each others' experience!

Sorry to see that happened 😔 but you have a great attitude about it. Some of our members here would cuzz and scream like there's no tomorrow.

Sorry for your loss. I love the p47! however I don't think it was a radio problem. in the video you can see that while you are pulling the looping he snaps and immediately afterwards he spins. I think you had given too much travel on the elevator and you have exceeded the characteristics of the plane. I apologize to everyone if I wrote errors but I am using the translator.

@Loise5901

6 ай бұрын

salut oui tu as raison j ai fait la meme faute avec un at6 je penssai que c etait la radio on mais toujours la faute sur l avion ou radio

Sorry for your loss, but that wasn't the radio. That was a stall.

@TheWeekendOperator-tz4cy

Ай бұрын

100% he stalled it when he pulled back

Oh man my heart broke with that beautiful plane! Sorry that happened to you mate! I lost my best plane like this. An 88 inch Extreme Flight Yak 54 with a DA60cc engine. I had bought it second hand and the previous owner had done some weird wiring job on the plane. It seemed to fly fine for several months but one day she went off the air as i was coming in to land. One battery was flat but the other one was ok. Obviously the redundancy didn't work. From that day i vowed NEVER to buy a second hand plane ever again! All the planes i've built i have NEVER had one go off the air. Glad the donk survived mate! Subbed to your channel.

You are a better man than me! When I crash I feel like I'm in a bad mood for at least the rest of the day! Good for you for being able to shake it off. Thank you for the video, Ive been consider the FG-19 for an old TF p-47 60 size I have, good to know it can take a lickin' and keep on tick'n!

@jeffs7915

Жыл бұрын

I go home and kick the dog, if I had a dog.

So sorry man! Fortunately the gorgeous engine will fly again for sure. I want to congrats you, you are a very honest man. Good flights!

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

3 жыл бұрын

Thank You. i am just uploading a video of my .060 topflite corsair. the FG-19 runs better than ever!!

I can honestly say, my reaction as that nosed in, and afterwards, would not be fit for the ears of drunk sailors, much less polite company. I'm impressed by your composure.

OH MAN! I'm so sorry sir. :-(

Well this was an excellent promo for the durability of that engine. Never lost a plane on a tactic or futaba. Wow. Looks like just a new fuselage and your back in business

God i love ELECTRICS airplane motors

oh so sad, Glad some items are recoverable . Now time to build anew. Best of luck. Keep flying

The one thing i dislike about this hobby, you can put a whole heap of time and effort into a model making sure everything is right before it's maiden, and it can suddenly go pear shaped during it's flight.

@gogogeedus

3 жыл бұрын

Its an ARF, He took it out of a box,thats the work he did.

8:36 I can relate to this, I have lost a couple of planes due Brown outs. Fly with Cowlings on incase of crash it helps protect motor.😢

So sorry to see this, hope you figured out what happened, thanks for sharing 👍🏼

Oof, I’m sorry man, and I think there are quite a number of us who can identify with that combination of dismay and consternation, followed by acceptance, on the walk over to the scene of impact. So glad the jewel in the nose survived, and the wreck went down in an easily accessible place. Thank you so much for sharing, it keeps me inspired to persevere in my own efforts!

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! i figured i would share the video since it happened and human error is how it goes with the hobby.

Aaww man that sucks, I'm sorry, that was a BEAUTIFUL plane, absolutely loved it

Sorry for your loss. I’m lost f 16 1/8 turbine with futaba radio, change to jeti no problem at the moment. That’s hurt but put behind and go further. Blessings

That sucks! I love the p-47 i had a Razorback 150 size flew like a had afew Dead sticks and saves So sorry Brother!!! just remember to fly the Corsair to keep your speed in your turns! see many old guy's slow in turns and loose them . have fun keep flying!!

It looked as though it was a high speed stall, and ultimately too low to correctly recover from. Gorgeous P47 though! I commend you on how well you handled the situation

I know that feeling all too well, it can be overwhelming not knowing why things go wrong after being so careful with your inspections of the craft before take off. Calm and compaosed, maybe. I like to think its more like in complete shock, taken back by this incident. Build > Fly > Crash > Repeat = :-)

Sanfu P-47 was a really pretty one. Hope to see her airborne again! :)

Noooo !! Mi spiace tantissimo !!! ! Per fortuna il motore sembra ok !! Un saluto ! Ciao

Wow iam just in the process of building mine from VQ but the radio is nx10 sad to see her Go beautiful plane lucky with the engine might have to get one cheers Rick

This is why I stick to control line airplanes, and those I don't beautify.....I usually crash them. But I don't get mad....just go oh well, NEXT!!! And a lot cheaper also. But.....sorry about the crash. T'was a beauty.

:o( I hate it when that happens. My favorite Piper committed Hari-Kari in similar fashion. (EFLITE Pacer locked the elevator servo when I added flaps in preparation to land. Had been a perfect mix with flap and elevator for near hands free landings. Hope motor was salvaged...that’s a peach.

I had three planes lost in a row then a friend had brought it to my attention that people are using high power routers that transmit at 2.4 g that could be causing interference with our receivers, it makes sense I had all three planes flying in a school yard near homes.

@MyZxcvb12

2 ай бұрын

I don't know that what action we take? Could be worth letting manufacturers know

"The End of Snafu" by jagdpanther

"Kick the tires and light the fires" will get you every time... Sorry for your loss.

P-47 is my favorite WW2 fighter. Beautiful model! Can't believe you lost it. But I know its not your piloting skills... sorry for your loss! :(

Sorry for your loss 😩...human error as you said; reminds me 6 month ago, where I lost my heli ☹️... 🍺

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you heli.snafu was an arf so it didnt hurt as bad as a kit build but as you know its still a bummer.

I've lost 3 planes with Futaba then I started using Spektrum and it's been good since

Hey man, .. you put out good videos. Disappointing, the crash. This is half guess, half question .. is it possible that something could have shifted, or dislodged, that last second of hard maneuvering, that you did have control? If so, .. causing a pulled apart wired connection? That 3 cylinder engine looks pretty sweet. How are you enjoying the weather? .. I live in southern Minnesota, too. Thanks

We have all done it. just one more flight and no more plane, sorry for your loss

It's so, so common to blame the radio in a moment of "shock" when a model nails the ground hard, when in 95% of cases it's pilot error, or the assembler of the ARF made mistakes in the control system or electronics layout!! "I got Hit, I got Hit" Sure looked like a accelerated stall to me, although a P47 is the most forgiving warbird there is!

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

Жыл бұрын

I like your tie

Condolences, sympathies, been there and done that so many times I'm now scratch building a 1:20 scale fishing boat. For sure she will be full working fishing, unsinkable, reserve battery back up, can't rule out a shark attack however. 😕

You handled that as tho you were almost expecting it. I mean wow you kept your cool. I would have turned into a 5yo real quick. Hahaha And good on ya for looking at the bright side of it. Hats off to ya sir. 👏

Nem sempre o mais caro, é o melhor...

Do you think the FG-19 could pull a 13-15lb Beaver on floats? It's designed for a DLE20. The other option would be a FG-21 single but I'd love the radial.

Ouch man sorry to see that! Glad the engine looks to not be damaged but check it for bent shafts!

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

4 жыл бұрын

thanks man, the FG-19 made it . i have it running on the hard stand and am posting a video soon. i might have to get with you for another p-47 !

Ja genauso. Man sollte danach immer am Motor von Hand drehen.

I feel your pain…. I wish we all Should form a big club for USA FLYERS…when lose plane we all should pitch in

Very unlucky there, it was a great looking plane...

I lost a few planes with futaba use spectrum and radio master now no trouble sorry about your crash - put her back together man 👍

Sorry for your loss! 😖

Yep. I know that feeling all too well.

It's a shame to drill such a pretty plane! at least you had a great attitude about it and you still have some of the the expensive parts to rebuild! I know it may seem cheesy but I still use those little $5 LED battery status strips that plug into the receiver, the minute I turn on I know where I stand with power.

Am so sorry for your loss such a shame was it the receiver?

It could have been a receiver battery, 2.4ghz interference or a high speed stall. People don’t like Jeti Radios but Jeti Radios have two 2.4ghz antennas and a backup 900mhz receiver. The Jeti will tell you in advance if you are losing signal or if your receiver battery is spiking voltage. You need a backup for that backup and for that backup🍷 P.S. There’s nothing wrong with having 2 or 3 different manufacturers Radios. Some guys use Spektrum and Futaba for their less expensive models and use Jeti Radios for their expensive models. I have Airtronics Radio (Never lost a Plane), Futaba 16SZA and the most luxurious radio Jeti DS 16 Carbon.

What a shame😂That was a beautiful plane.

I think I might have let out an F bomb at a moment like that. My first big RC crash happened with a T Rex 450 when I forgot to check the tail screws for pre-flight check (never going to neglect that again, live and learn). Lost the control linkage and she spun out. Sorry for the loss of a beautiful plane, glad the engine made it.

@jimmyhaley727

7 ай бұрын

damn,, I hate the word NEVER,,,lol

@jimmyhaley727

4 ай бұрын

IF and NEVER are bad words

Wow sorry for your loss man...But did you attempt a loop?

Sorry to see that. I fly Futaba as well and never had a brown out like our Specktrum partners. Did that engine fit in the cowl?? I have the same ARF and wanted to do the same set up, just not sure that it would fit inside the cowl.

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

3 жыл бұрын

thanks jason, the fg-19 does fit the seagull p-47 cowl but just barley. i had to cheat the engine down just a little but i was able to make it fit without cutting things up.

So sorry, mate; what a gorgeous aircraft... But then, we are all humans and have had these moments. Hope you can rebuild it with reasonable effort; it's well worth it. Take care!

Which prop size worked best for this engine-model combo?

Seems not to be a radio problem. Just pulling too hard when trying the loop (1/4) and the plane snaps. Then the stick is kept pulling backwards and she never flies again. Boom! Saw that many times at my airfield, and always the same yell from the pilot: Lost radio! I had a 1500mm and a 84" P-51D Mustangs, and a couple of other itchy airplanes. Those warbirds have some wing loading and need careful inputs 😉

mine was a 14 sg as well makes me wonder if theres something with the 14sg

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Hi, too little too late , My P51 1/4 scale had the same problem Radio futaba 14 sg flew fine and then went in a death spin , I sent the radio to Ripmax and they found No problem ???? never found out why

Was a nice airplane, sorry for your loss.

Sorry about your loss that was a nice plane. Just wondering don't that fancy Futaba have a low voltage alarm for your batteries? My $180 FrSky does.

@brownie6451

4 жыл бұрын

After reading this it sounds a little snippy wasn't my intent sorry.

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

4 жыл бұрын

@@brownie6451 oh hey, not taken that way. it is the truth. this model had a 617 RX which is a sort of base line RX for futaba. i have better RX for my giant models . i am usually very much on top of these things but this time it cost me.

sir,wht problem your plane?i have same issue my right flap open suddenly then crash

oh painful....did you find a dead battery pack feeding the radio.?

That sucks. This hobby is tough sometimes. Lost my share of warbirds overtime. Got a super cub with countless flights on it. Warbirds.......not so much.

Hope the engine was ok, but for the arf model, you can go get another exactly like the first, right off the shelf!! That's the great thing about ARF's, there is no emotional attachment to the model, because you didn't build it!!

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! The engine did make it and is now in a TF Corsair kit build. Check in my videos on my channel back a few years.

Damn. Sorry to see that happen. Beautiful plane. Did the engine survive?

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. The engine is in my topflite .60 corsair.i made videos of the fg19 on the test stand and flying the corsair.check them out if you wish.😊

Im totally gutted for you. No one wants to see anyone crash their plane and such an nice plane it was too. You were just very unlucky. Ive been flying model aircraft since 1986 and ive had a few bad occasions myself and it feels bad . I feel bad for you on this occasion but I know you will bounce back like all the rest of us. Im actually thinking of buying this plane as ive never had a P47 in my hangar. It seems to fly well at slow speeds from your video which i like. Would you recommend this plane? Kind regards and keep flying.

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

3 жыл бұрын

thank you. i really liked the way this p-47 model flew. the retracts that came with the model didnt work but the oleos were usable. all in all it was worth the money.

Oh 😳 dude...that was painfull

Another fine example of how ARF's are NOT built to hit the deck.......I have a 73" Phoenix Extra 330SC that is missing everything forward of the firewall, and it went in a LOT softer and from a lot lower than this did. Glad the Saito pulled through, it would have been a serious tragedy if you'd bent that.....the "kinda-like" carboard and plastic airframe it was dragging around is no great loss in my opinion. It might be a tad late now, but next time you'll check those batteries won't you ?

It’s a shame sorry for your loss but I do believe the R617 F Rx is not a HV RX so a 7.4 v battery may have been your problem if I’ve seen the Rx battery right. I also use Futaba and never had an issue please let me know what you found.

@bb4l881

3 жыл бұрын

I too use Futaba (for years) with a 617 rx and have never had a problem. It's good for 4.8v to 6v. I personally only ever fly on 6v to negate any power drain by operating 6, 7 or even 8 high torque digital servos all at the same time.

Nice plane! You are a first! Admitting it was pilot error, and not blaming the airplane manufacturer or the radio. Some guys would be screaming for a new plane because it was cheaply made.

Sorry for the loss...how is the receiver doing? I have had many connection problems and signal issues during these past years so I finally decided to change it

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

3 жыл бұрын

hi and thank you, i have been using this rx in another model and have had no issues. i am still leaning towards battery or connection problems.

I got a big laugh when you mentioned in a newer video how THIS was your most popular video. So I had to come back comment and like to promote it more. ;) All I do is crash so maybe I have a future as a RC KZread star!

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

3 жыл бұрын

i really had to think before i uploaded this video but it is how it is! of course pain and misfortune are always more popular than anything else. seriously though if all you uploaded was crash videos you would be a huge you tube star!!! =D

@DuffusMonkey

3 жыл бұрын

@@jagdpanther9RCaircraft I could pretend to be an rich arrogant ass that always blames my equipment when I obviously have little flying skill, that way everyone would enjoy my crashes guilt free... This is a great idea ;)

Looked like the RX batt voltage was 4.7 v as displayed on the TX. That is too low and probably why you lost control. if that checks out, it did look like a stall spin, secondary stall hit the ground scenario also. Yeah, you did not have control, because it was stalled. Not because the radio failed.

That sucks!!! I'm sorry man

Omg !!! I'm so sorry for your loss!!!! Ive seen your builds and how time and luvvv u put into them and when S@&&TT like this happens I know it Hurt's...THATS krazy that a futaba radio went dead on u as u said??? Futaba radio's are bullet proof..... I hope u figure out what happened?? I hope u. Rebuild this plane and get it back up in the air...... Take care man.....keep the vidzz comin to........ Ray

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

4 жыл бұрын

thanks ray, the radio was fine and it was me that didnt put the charged RX battery in the model. i found the freshly charged battery in the flight bag when i was packing up for the day.

@spottyjack614

4 жыл бұрын

@@jagdpanther9RCaircraft ohhhhh no!!!! Well u know we all make mistakes.. Does your futaba radio have a TX & RX battery display on the LCD screen?? I know the newer futaba radio's have that function.. I have an old school futaba radio that doesn't have that display and I may sound a little over cautious but I've had a similar situation happen to me one time, not as large scale as your mishap but with a old gas stick .20 plane. My tx battery went dead right after it got airborne and all functions went nutty and I was able to crash land it without any major issues.. So after that mishap. I charge my batteries and hit umm with the ol volt meter before I slap them in any of my rc stuff ..just cause... I bought a fly sky radio with the bind n fly receiver tech... There a Chinese brand radio and there no futaba, but damm do they work great!! And they have the tx and Rx battery display on the LCD screen and give me a warning when the batteries go low.. I just luvv fly sky radio's... Well I hope u get ur p47 up and runnin soon.....take care...

I’ve never seen an RX switch move during an impact! Battery dislodged in flight!

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

Ай бұрын

Of many years and 74k replies you sir are the first one who is correct !

What electric starter did you use

Was the cause of the crash ever determined? Had a friend bury a 20 cc Extra on second flight. He had no control on a Futaba 2.4 all new equipment, Life batteries new faast receiver appeared to die,

I have the exact same transmitter and Futaba receivers in several of my newest planes, JR in the rest. I have not flown the Futaba yet. I would be very interested to find out what happened there.

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

4 жыл бұрын

it was the battery, i didnt put my charged battery in the model this time out. when i was packing up i found the freshly charged battery in the flight bag. simply human error not my futaba system.

@ual737ret

4 жыл бұрын

jagdpanther9 We have all done things like that. Sorry about the crash. I’m glad it wasn’t the radio components. Futaba is very reliable.

Way to bounce back!

And that's why I do model railroading. Ouch.

that's the second futaba I've seen go in

I would like to have you by my side in a crises, very calm after losing the plane..

Phuck that hurts when i see vids like this, probable simple thing as a power disconnect in plane ( futaba rules . I been having bad luck at air strip ( We are a special breed ! nothing can keep us down ! play hard !

about 10 years ago, i had a Yak, from Great Planes, and i used to use Life batteries. I only had one battery, no redundancy system in the plane. it had a 30 cc nitro motor in it. It was the first flight of the morning. I had charged the battery that morning. I checked the voltage before hand, and took her off. I then flew her for 9 minutes and landed the plane. As I was taxiing her back, all of a sudden, the motor quit and one elevator dropped. On the ground, all of a sudden, I had lost radio control of the airplane. Then I checked the battery, and the voltage was 4.2 that is when I knew, never again use a LIFE A123 battery. So sorry my friend.

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.i was surprised how fast the voltage dropped in the Life battery.my fault though. Im flying all 2SLipo with voltage reg now.

I have to say since worked in a model shop and witnessed lots of futaba crashes I haven’t trusted it for years

@donkboys

3 жыл бұрын

Have flown Futaba for 30 years, nary a radio problem

@DarrellCook-vl6lm

8 ай бұрын

I went with HiTec after losing 5 airplanes in a row. Then I had problems with their 8 channel recievers and lost 2 more. The micro receivers had two failures too. I miss my old pre '90s gear that never failed. Even on 72 kHz. Beware of flying around powerlines, chain link fences, metal buildings and schools. 2.4 ghz. Is not infallible and it doesn't work as well around the above mentioned hazards. Remember flying on 28 kHz? Ouchies for your airplanes.

Sorry about your airplane. Hey where did you buy that P47 prop nut?

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

2 жыл бұрын

Hi and thanks. If you go to my videos i just answered the prop nut question on the snafu fg 19 engine made it video. It was a question a few weeks ago.

Sorry man, beautiful model and it flew so nice, luckily the engine survived. You kept very calm, I have to admit my day would be #€&€@*!! or something

“We’ve lost her” priceless

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

Жыл бұрын

yea it's been a couple years now and i do miss this model. i want to buy another one as i still have 2 perfect cowls and other parts that made it but my fg 19 r3 is on a top flite corsair. the fg-19 really made this model for me.

Sorry to see that happened

Sorry for your lost work, and great plane. Interference to the planes receiver, or possibly a power loss from battery to systems.

@jagdpanther9RCaircraft

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, now im thinking the jr connector on the life battery simply came un plugged.

That was not radio. IS FLIGHT CONTROL FAILURE.

I have same model of FUTABA. I have it more then 10 years, but this radio still makes me crazy. The stupid software and screen ........ mmmmmm. I'm going to buy something cheaper and better ! Sure, it will not be Spektrum, no way .... It was nice plane ... anyway. BR from Poland. Peter

looks like a high speed stall

That was a tip stall, when the plane went straight up it was going too slow. Those wings were fighting for lift.

@JN24185

Ай бұрын

I have to disagree. He was attempting full throttle and you could hear he had NOTHING. You’re absolutely going to stall being unable to increase airspeed. So yes it was a stall, but not pilot error. In my opinion.

@rickapitz4099

2 күн бұрын

@@JN24185 And the first thing you seem to do is pull up increasing the stall.