Overdub takes a look at session musicians and how digital technology changed their work. Starring Lenny Castro, Kenny Aronoff, Bill Schnee and Mark T. Jordan.
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@GeorgyPorgyPuddingPie3 жыл бұрын
Toto: the living representation of session musicians.
@staticknobs
2 жыл бұрын
Steeley Dan as well!
@NickNicometi
Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@bubbanderson9 жыл бұрын
Massive respect to these guys. Seems these days everybody wants to be the rock/pop star first but it's great to see that there's always a place for the real musos who simply enjoy playing (and happen to be bloody good at it). The stars get the fame & adulation and all the crap that goes with it but these fellas get the real satisfaction of doing a job they love and can still lead regular lives. Real musicianship - irreplaceable.
@silly8395
6 жыл бұрын
but they're not rock stars; it's sad actually
@031767sc
5 жыл бұрын
computers
@wileuler5461
4 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how this lays, but if they’re not, shouldn’t all of these session musicians be in the rock, blues, Jazz & country music hall of fames?
@mairianncullen8753
Жыл бұрын
This is why Joe Chambers did so much to create the MUSICIANS Hall of Fame - to honour these superb musicians.
@Gitfiddle6 жыл бұрын
Session musicians are the back none of the music industry. These are the unsung heroes that make make the “talent” sound good.
@chalacochoro70236 жыл бұрын
I love this one. So SO So much difference working with a real studio musician that really wants to make the best of what you want , rather than the one that believes he should make your music what he wants. I have dealt with both. These guys are KING in my minds world.
@GoatMee6 жыл бұрын
The unsung heroes of modern music's success.
@KRAZEEIZATION2 жыл бұрын
There’s a bunch of guys from the 70s/80s that played on everything. Jeff Porcaro, Steve Gadd, Steve Lukather, Larry Carlton, Nathan East, Pino Palladio, Greg Philangines, everything they do sounds great. I’d buy an album just to hear theses guys.
@TimsGuitarWorldwithTimFeskorn5 жыл бұрын
There's no digital musical source that can replace real musicianship. Support live music in your nieborhood.
@hiponicaudio7930
4 жыл бұрын
Midi 2.0 was just released. Game on
@melodymakermark
4 жыл бұрын
To borrow from the great ‘70’s studio guitarist Dean Parks, “before Pro Tools, there were pros”.
@robertdore9592
4 жыл бұрын
Well said. The irony is that there are millennials hunting high and low for old vinyl whilst downloading free shit from the web and wondering why the market for session players is shrinking fast.
@davidnorman49235 жыл бұрын
Unsung heroes that make the music come alive!
@mjpitche10 жыл бұрын
The percussion is like the spices in cooking.
@robertm20006 жыл бұрын
Bill Schnee! I met him when I was in college in the late 1960s and he was starting out in a little studio in Glendora, CA - Mark Records with Marlin Jones. Bill engineered a lot - his "bread and butter" - but he knew music forward and backwards. You could go into the studio with Bill and come out with a record, the music on which would be a couple levels of better than when you started. And from what I've seen and heard since then, Bill is still doing that! He has his own studio now - he still can get it out of musicians!
@hiponicaudio79304 жыл бұрын
Years after this was filmed, Music was completely lost with producers. Session musicians are doing fantastic because none of these "producers" on Fruity Loops can actually play music. Didnt see that coming did yall?
@NickNicometi
Жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂
@rdoetjes7 жыл бұрын
Cool documentary! Brings me back to the early 90s when I played some session music. I had the most fun, that was after having puked my stomach empty from the nerves of being asked to play on on one of our country's biggest rock names =) That first session the producer and the artist asked me if I was feeling ill; I was pale. So I told them I hardly had any sleep and I actually felt sick from nerves. The laughed and told me not to worry. The artist in question did the coolest thing. He put his arm around me shoulder and walked with me to the studio floor and he said: "I heard you play your swinging rhythm guitar; almost like a drummer. So you can do this with your eyes closed, I'm not asking something that you're not comfortable with. You just play like you do onstage only the chords are different. Just let it flow kid! You'll do fine!"
@kenaestheticfm
4 жыл бұрын
Raymond Doetjes Thanks for sharing! Thats a story. ❤️ I heard a similar thing where John Mayer was invited to play on a Herbie Hancock album, and John was p nervous cuz he was a big fan of Herbies. But then he realized, wait a minute, if Herbie is asking me to play, then he probably just wants me to just be me 😊
@NickNicometi
Жыл бұрын
"One of our country's biggest rock names", yet you don't share the name of the musician. Probably not so big. Oh, and musicians are musicians, artists are artists. I happen to be both. These are not interchangeable terms. No one ever refers to an artist as a musician, nor should they, and neither is a musician complemented on the "art" in their latest recording. Get it?
@jamesparker1063
Жыл бұрын
@@NickNicometi no,actually,,,what you are, is an ignorant/arrogant WIND-BAG......got it?
@lendavidhart97103 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here thinking, i would love to sing with these guys, but my timing is not perfect - alot, but by the end of the video, i understood that the human side of this business is what makes it real
@RocknRollkat3 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation, thank you ! Bill P.
@KTHKUHNKK3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful it is about the people playing together and feeling the groove.
@jimpemberton8 жыл бұрын
Great stuff here. The best musicians I know are rarely seen. The best music out there today is being done the old way. We're due for a resurgence in great musicianship, I think.
@czzham6 жыл бұрын
Amazing... brings back a lot of memories of working in Cali in the '90's. Great stuff!
@glennso476 жыл бұрын
The session musicians at Motown Records were what really made Motown Records!
@Joesfosterdogs
6 жыл бұрын
Funk Bros...great film, must see for all
@seurynck
6 жыл бұрын
Just to clarify, the documentary about the Funk Brothers is called Standing In The Shadows of Motown. ~ Peace!
@donnythompson8029
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome players... Earl Van Dyke, James Jamerson, Bob Babbit, Benny Benjamin, Pistol Allen, Joe Hunter, Joe Messina, Robert White... The unsung heroes behind The Temps, Tops, Supremes, Contours, Smokey, Stevie Wonder - although Stevie is an amazing musician and worked on sessions as a studio musician, too, as did Marvin Gaye. Standing In the Shadows of Motown is a must-see if you want to to know the real source of the Motown magic. Other must see docs are The Wrecking Crew, and Muscle ShoalS. FWIW
@docsavage8640
3 жыл бұрын
Not without the amazing songwriters, though
@mayamitchell97453 жыл бұрын
my teacher is making me watch this for homework.
@kameronplayz530
3 жыл бұрын
same haha
@la1966 жыл бұрын
Just as important, along with the Wrecking Crew, there was the The Funk Brothers, and don't forget about the female session vocalists (The Andantes) that did most of the back up vocals for some of the best of the best Motown songs. With the Andantes, think about Jackie Wilsons-- "Your Love Keeps Lifting Me (Higher and Higher) or any of the Four Tops tunes as an example of their contribution to that Motown sound not to mention they did back up vocals for many other artists.
@terrylodercreative5 жыл бұрын
The 16th note percussion/piano thing just felt so sweet. Moments of joy just so fine. Thanks for it. Session people are the blood of real music. My take on it is, if you can hold still, you ain't doin it right.
@anthonylewis92565 жыл бұрын
That jam at the end !!!!!
@promerops6 жыл бұрын
What a lovely warm human being is Lenny Castro! What he says about every musician having something to offer is, in my view, so wise and so true. All this stuff about X is better than Y and A sucks, but B is superb is completely pointless. Very enjoyable video - I would have liked to have seen and heard from some of the studio regulars with Steely Dan. I'm one of many who feel that SD have taken the art of the session musician to an all time high. Thanks for uploading.
@mesolithicman164 Жыл бұрын
My limited experience of these guys is that they are so advanced in their playing that there's a tendency to overcomplicate. That's part of why Ringo was a great drummer for the Beatles, he never did to much, everything was measured to the song. That in itself is a real skill.
@sunsetlights100
Жыл бұрын
Uknow not Riingo but a professional session drummer did most of the beetles album studio drum work right!
@mesolithicman164
Жыл бұрын
@@sunsetlights100 No I don't know that. And I don't know anyone with an ounce of common sense who thinks that.
@andyokus5735
Жыл бұрын
Drummers like Bernard Purdie played on lots of Beatles songs. Even McCartney said in " Musician " magazine in an interview in the 80's that they had to show and even play all the drum parts for Ringo. It's all part of the hype and bullshit of the music business. You want to know what the music business is really all about? It's selling electric guitars. The music business is over, it's dead. You can't even go out anywhere anymore and see a live band. At 66 it's a major effort to even touch my instruments. I've saved myself a major amount of psychological pain by accepting reality.
@mesolithicman164
Жыл бұрын
@@andyokus5735 There is a jazz/ prog rock guy called Andy Edwards who has talked about these subjects. Definitely on Ringo, where he explains why Ringo is a brilliant drummer, and also on the music business. I think you'll hear a very interesting take on how it is now, with the coming of social media, a business geared around the personalities and how albums are part and parcel of an audience buying into that individual. So you get the album for free but when he tours you pay £100 for a ticket and buy a load of 'merch'. But there is still an album, a tour and concerts, so, work for musicians. It's a very interesting channel for musician types.
@philaletha5 жыл бұрын
Wow, Lenny is the man. "It always comes back to the players."
@funklover24
3 жыл бұрын
Remember hearing him live with Toto, once with Jeff. Unforgettable! ❤🙏
@svenjansen2134
10 ай бұрын
It's always the player. Same instrument sounds different in other hands.
@cleanslate2004 Жыл бұрын
These guys pay their dues, not just with time practiced, but with all the ups & downs that come with truly honing their craft. I watched a Doc, called 20 ft from stardom about back ground singers & essentially they had the same story. Few become stars, but even for them, what do they do In the mean time ? How can they pay their living expenses ? One way is as a session musician, but once your plugged into it, you quickly find a comradary, a community with a mutual passion. Having a band is time consuming, expensive & finding & keeping the right fits is difficult. A popular Session studio networks everything you need, & you get to collaborate with players that understand your all pieces of the puzzle & you get paid for doing it. Even without a huge pay day, it's enticing.
@groovekingmuzz26997 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the Porcaro:Band of Brothers documentary..They deserve their own doc as much if not more,than anyone...I'm sure Bill Schnee and Lenny Castro would agree...One recorded them and Lenny owes his career to Jeff for getting him on The Boz Scaggs "Silk Degrees"Tour.....Anticipating this film very much....
@Joesfosterdogs
6 жыл бұрын
Wanted to do this years ago...let us know when it comes out or info!!!
@tobybaker79683 жыл бұрын
George Benson's album Breezin' was recorded and mixed by Bill Schnee at his studio in two days. Was in the charts for years.
@davidnorman49235 жыл бұрын
We'll never see the heyday of big artists using the best players taking time to get the right sound however long it took! Plus the calibre of those great artists is not around today!
@jbeTV19 жыл бұрын
Great seeing my friend Mark Prentice in this. Fabulous musician /producer and all round great guy. Working with people like Mark, I learned the importance of creativity on the fly. Things happen quick in the studio these days. And he's a master.
@blueasterstyles71269 жыл бұрын
One of the most interesting videos that I have ever seen. These guys and also some ladies are so talented. And also saints, working with the industry like they apparently do.
@Rockin_Ross4 жыл бұрын
“Fear no situation”...my new mantra.
@folkyguitar14 жыл бұрын
Awesome documentary!
@BradsGonnaPlay8 жыл бұрын
Sitting here, enjoying the documentary while plucking away at my bass. Great doc, really helpful and informative.
@jingleskhanaudioproductions2 жыл бұрын
10:00 that's a perfect performance on percussion and serves the song
@joebarker571910 жыл бұрын
thank you for posting this ... it is wonderful!
@seekingwisdom88 жыл бұрын
The groove at the end is what it's all about, spontaneous creativity. Even though I've "played" on 3 albums, I've never had the opportunity to record on an acoustic set of drums. The first time was close, I played a Roland electric kit. First time I had ever played an electric kit and it was a recording session! The producer had the kit programmed for heavy metal players and I'm a jazz player, so a lot of my stuff was not picked up because I didn't hit the pads hard enough. The next two times I recorded were a drag. We would rehearse the songs on our instruments, then go into the mixing room where the producer mixed everything digitally, but was redoing everything with pro-tools. Since the guitar, bass and keyboards were plugged into the system and recorded digitally, he just cleaned some stuff up. He couldn't duplicate the drum parts I played as he was attempting to replicate each beat by listening to the tape. Obviously, this was not in a high dollar studio environment, and the producer did not have years of experience with the software. I wasn't happy with the different drum sounds he selected as it didn't fit the sound of the songs, it distracted. Fortunately, he was very open to accepting suggestions and help, so I sat at the monitor with him, selected each drum and cymbal and programmed the drum parts. For me, as a player, it sucked. I was dying to go into the studio with the other players, sit down and spend as much time as needed, playing the songs, or individual parts, until we got the sound we wanted. In the early stages, I kept pleading with them to allow us to just sit down and play a song, record it, then go back into the mixing room to polish it up. This guy wasn't open to having more than one instrument playing at a time. Very frustrating as it is when musicians are playing together that the real creativity occurs.
@boobooday
8 жыл бұрын
+James Eginoire This makes me so sad! So much is lost when music is turned into "production" rather than "performance!" Thanks for your comment!
@seekingwisdom8
8 жыл бұрын
I take it a step beyond; For me it's never a performance. I feel every single note and all the notes in between, so when I play, it's my passion that people hear. I'm the guy that drives everyone around me crazy because I feel the rhythm in everything and am constantly tapping out a beat, no matter where I am. In fact, I was picking up a prescription one day, tapping away as I waited for the pharmacist to ring me up when all of a sudden, with both hands, he held my hands down on the counter and calmly said, "please stop!" There are other videos about session musicians that include Glen Campbell that are very inspiring. Thanks for your vote of confidence.
@seekingwisdom8
8 жыл бұрын
I'm not a session player, but would love to do it. My experience in studios was as a member of two different bands, one a blues band, the other a post rap-core band. In both bands, I had to use an electronic kit due to the expense of recording on an acoustic kit. As of yet, I've not achieved what one would consider a successful career as a drummer, but I've not put forth much effort either. Sorry if you were mislead.
@frankjames6590
7 жыл бұрын
my experience in the beginning of session work..was I played on many demo records..was playing in clubs and was sort of 'Discovered by Arrangers or producers who liked my style...
@Joesfosterdogs
6 жыл бұрын
TOTO Rosanna...end groove
@shirleymuhleisen6833 жыл бұрын
“Like the whole band performing together like they did on analog ”
@mikemathieson37005 жыл бұрын
Love their attitude and lack of ego
@sholland42 Жыл бұрын
These guys understand music. Selflessness is important. Thanks for sharing.
@Corey_G8 жыл бұрын
You"ll always need musicians to make music, but you may not need as many.
@390comet8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. Great documentary.
@bobpickett20016 жыл бұрын
Good video! Just a good inspiration for players. Nice seeing Jim Keltner, whom in my early days on bass I would sub with the house band at Art Laboe's Oldies club on Sunset. And Kenny Aronoff, whom I got to play with at the Ultimate Jam at the Whiskey, recently. Kenny is a great studio drummer and a "beast" live. Man what an inspiration. And he said he still puts in many hours a day practicing. It was a hint. I'm taking that advice.
@Bluelagoonstudios2 жыл бұрын
I'm very thankful there is the internet, most of the scores of session musicians are out there, in the past these were just known in a small part of the world. Or not at all. Immense respects for these art makers. Till this day, where digital samples and techniques are more and more the new normal, which we also use, and the art slips away, unfortunately. The recent producers are a team, from 5 and more peeps who write a song, it's like making a jigsaw puzzle, I hate it.
@md-ps2hx6 күн бұрын
There's a quote about comparing the musicianship of today to the golden age era of session musicians 60's/70's/80's ... "Before Pro-Tools ... there were PRO's ... I'll leave it at that ..."
@eternalme10166 жыл бұрын
A WONDERFUL VID..............🎸💚
@DaveBassDotCom6 жыл бұрын
That was SO good! Thank you!
@KoolKatRecordingStudios8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeanette for Posting this.... :) Thumbs Up on these Guys
@ekclay75 жыл бұрын
Great video.. excellent musicians and a real take on the state of the music industry..
@timallbritton73296 жыл бұрын
"Bless their hearts" right after 20:00. You gotta be from the south to know what that meant.
@robertm20006 жыл бұрын
The story of people who never forget "It don't mean a thing If it ain't got that swing!"
@BigFinni7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this very insightful look at music production today. I would reiterate the sentiments at [19:33] "The good thing about Daw's is they make music creation available to 1000's of 1000's" (I'm excited about that.) " the bad thing about Daw's ..." well if it sounds good it is good and some of us just need to develop their ear and learn to listen to the difference. Then we will have lots of good music from lots of good musicians.
@dave18128 жыл бұрын
3:28 Kenny Just nails it!
@plgplgplg
8 жыл бұрын
+DJ1812 You're right man. Well said by Kenny
@Jamler3
6 жыл бұрын
Everybody's got something that somebody else doesn't have... :)
@NOTLIM214
6 жыл бұрын
Being a drummer myself for many years. I know what Kenny is talking about. You should leave your ego at the door, not just in music but in whatever your true passions are. Keep preaching Kenny, cause I hear you.
@HrSamstag
6 жыл бұрын
Jam Camp which means that nobody is equal, actually. This no-ego-equality blabla is spread so massive amongst artists because most of them are extremely lousy economical thinkers.
@KoolKatRecordingStudios8 жыл бұрын
"The Musical Family" as Lenny says and The "Love" as Kenny says and what Larry Shell says in Hoping that Every Artist and musician will have the Freedeom of making any Music they Way they want to and Mark says; "To Share and Stiving for the same thing together" and later in here He says that The MUSIC is to take Priority Over the Technology in The Creation process in which which HUMANS ought to be making Music and NOT The Computer which I agree with...and Russ says that Session Players are; A RELIC...But with Dyan & Grant Olsen they had The HONOR of having Lenny Castro come and Play on Their Project...and yet like Russ says; most people can Not affod to Hire a Studio Session Musician...LOVE The Jam Session of Lenny & Kenny doing the Drum & Percussion Track and then Mark 3 days later in the Studio joining the Track with His Awesome Keyboarding...
@KoolKatRecordingStudios8 жыл бұрын
Jeanette Castillo !! I See at the end, during The Credits, that YOU Wrote & Produced This! AWESOME Work..I LOVE These Guys and This Video Jeanette. Thanks very much. God Bless Yous. :)
@daviddemar87496 жыл бұрын
I loved this documentary Ms. Castillo . you gained a new subscriber!
@sirjammer5 жыл бұрын
I fell into doing sessions in the late 70's.
@robertdore95924 жыл бұрын
What'll save music will be guys and gals getting together and playing pubs and clubs, then people will come to listen thus creating a following. 'If you build it, they will come'.
@kc0lif9 ай бұрын
i remember seeing lenny castro on those early toto music videos.
@merendobereglidditz93045 жыл бұрын
The song is everything.
@damaitumanggor47678 жыл бұрын
thanks for share this one, awesome!!!!
@nicholaswoolfenden525423 күн бұрын
God bless these people
@guillermog.hernandez39316 жыл бұрын
GOOD ENJOYABLE VIDEO...
@sseltrek1a2b6 жыл бұрын
awesome vid...
@Ndlanding6 жыл бұрын
Nice video, and interesting observations about the recording scene (in 2012). How come it was only about percussionists, though? Or did I miss something? I'd love to see the same thing done about, say string or horn players vs synths, and maybe about background singers. Having said that, many thanks for the show!
@doitnowvideosyeah58416 жыл бұрын
Someone once said the bass players in Nashville who get the most work have good bass fishing boats and are fun to be with. C&W bass is harder than it looks but it looks really easy. Doesn't require a Ron Carter for most tracks, so extra musical considerations are up there...
@brianmuratori32063 жыл бұрын
Mark Jordan especially nailed it about how over use of technology breeded a plethora of mediocre wanna be musicians that never should of been there in the first place! Technology is meant to enhance not be a musician's oxygen tank! Love the outro jazzy playing towards the end segment with Lenny,Kenny & Mark. Example: real live musicians..interacting!
@Blando7887 Жыл бұрын
my dad was a session musician for 45 years
@RefugioDoFogo5 жыл бұрын
"It's not about the notes that you play, It's about the force of your personality on the notes that are already there."
@Bass_Playa_Two_Point.O10 ай бұрын
16:38 - The memorial plaque references Studio B being purchased and restored by the Mike Curb Family Foundation. The Mike Curb Congregation sang the theme song, "Burning Bridges," for the movie Kelly's Heroes.
@dondec6 жыл бұрын
Wow... there's a song byte starting at 10:30 about "gathering clouds"... I love that. THat song available for purchase? Awesome vid. TY!
@andzwe9 жыл бұрын
I just looked at the credits for Bridges to Babylon, at AMG and those for Kenny Aronoff say: "Unknown Contributor Role" (irony?), but his story here explains what his role was (or should have been). What he says at 3:28 is very meaningful and maybe should be taken to heart by all those at a place like YT, who's main subject seems to be who's "better" or "best".
@anguspodgorny82116 жыл бұрын
The Foo Fighter's Wasting Light, recorded analog on tape in garages. 4 Grammy awards. Tech is awesome but not always necessary
@kingech_B155 жыл бұрын
I love this
@therugburnz5 жыл бұрын
Yessssss, and Thanx.
@Mooseboy086 жыл бұрын
Excellent.
@aquamarine999116 жыл бұрын
A major issue in pop music today is that instruments don't really matter anymore. Listen to mix of most pop songs today. It's 95% percussion (usually programmed) and vocal. 5% harmony instrument (acoustic guitar or keyboard) providing the chordal coloring. No solos. When Uptown Funk came along, it was a revelation. It topped the charts for months, but it didn't change music. So whaddya need session guys for?
@oholm09
5 жыл бұрын
Andrew James I'm an musician composer producer and I bring back the 80s production
@Kylefassbinderful Жыл бұрын
Nicky Hopkins is my favorite session player. Too bad he didn't get much credit/money from his contributions but that's the life of a session musician.
@plgplgplg8 жыл бұрын
6:00-6:30 good Kenny / Mick moment
@KountryCuz15 жыл бұрын
Good Video Seams That its hard to Get some one to play in the Background musicians all try to be the Star and out Front Then you end up with A loud Mess This is why you Track each one at a Time For Adjustments Recording and music needs to work Tougather and Fun make it Sound Great !
@josepharmenta78894 жыл бұрын
This is definitely a musician's video
@orion6812 жыл бұрын
These guys were indeed the last class of studio guys....now we have computers. Shame....some of the best musicians in the world got together this way. Listen to Aja from Steely Dan.
@atoxbabaguitar4 жыл бұрын
CHANNEL IS USEFUL
@davidnorman49235 жыл бұрын
Lenny is awesome! Toto Randy Crawford George Benson Boz scaggs Christopher cross Mike McDonald the list is endless!
@jameskarr84034 жыл бұрын
Loved the video and I get the lament about technology replacing real musicianship. However, since I'm a piano technician for over 40 years I couldn't help noticing, sadly. there was not an acoustic piano in sight. I tune in the NYC area for 3 recording studios. Each has a great acoustic piano. It's good to remember all the piano sounds from a digital keyboard start with an awesome acoustic piano sound. Which, like great musicianship, can only be replicated digitally, not produced organically. I guess it's like the guys that made the best buggy whips lamenting about the dawn of the automobile age.
@docsavage8640
3 жыл бұрын
Can't top the sound of a real piano
@johnfoskey78556 жыл бұрын
duane allman was a session guy that played on many songs from the mid sixities
@drdavey96463 жыл бұрын
Mark prentice Hi from your old friends in Watertown
@jacklcii76024 жыл бұрын
I've noticed celebrity musicians offering musical instruction on the internet
@Hanssone5 жыл бұрын
The unsung heroes
@stuartcook187010 жыл бұрын
Mick J is a subtle cowboy.
@markfeather81457 жыл бұрын
about ten minutes in to the video there is a song playing as Lenny is doing his percussion thing. It's a female vocalist singing "I live beneath the shadows". Who is that and what is the name of the song? Thanks
@JaneDoe-fh7tg8 жыл бұрын
Lenny Castro!!!
@hugolafhugolaf
6 жыл бұрын
Fidel's son!
@calebproductions59705 жыл бұрын
The session musician phase didn't end in the 1960's. It continues all the time even today.... doubles in every band out there ... even double lead singers ! Sometimes they don't use doubles they swap somebody else out .there is more to the music industry than meets the public guy it is very very cutthroat and controlled
@KTHKUHNKK
3 жыл бұрын
I believe the business has always been cut throat. But if you can find your peaceful spot. And you realize you don't have to compete. All you have to do is produce a quality sound. That the majority will like and feel. I guess the thing is. Is that everybody has an ear for something different. Keith Kuhn KK Motion Pictures Also on KZread
@NickNicometi
Жыл бұрын
@@KTHKUHNKK Life is competition.
@bg357wg
10 ай бұрын
@@NickNicometiAccumulating the means to survive is competition. Once you have the proper means, life should not be a competition.
@NickNicometi
10 ай бұрын
@@bg357wg I believe you are clueless of life.
@bg357wg
10 ай бұрын
@@NickNicometi I believe you are narrow-minded
@rl2905 Жыл бұрын
There should be a quantize grid in every DAW that's just called "Lenny"
@StephenDoty844 жыл бұрын
Trivia: Which session musician did Elton John ask to join his band after working with him in 1972 for a few days in the studio?
@HrSamstag6 жыл бұрын
Anybody knows the piece of music plays in the background on 16:35?
@Fi16180339886 жыл бұрын
I enter here beacause I thought he was Kurt Russell, lol.
@robbygaume6006 жыл бұрын
Mellencamp's "Scarecrow" should have been titled "Kenny Aronoff & Friends" or something of that order.
@mikeschouten4732
6 жыл бұрын
Robby Gaume Yes! He absolutely tore it up on Mellencamp's Uh Huh too...one of the most raucous recording sessions ever by all accounts.
@chazterror5 жыл бұрын
Let's see, there was that other song they put me way out in front in the mix, what was it again......oh yes! Don't Fear The Reaper! The producer kept asking for more cowbell!
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Toto: the living representation of session musicians.
@staticknobs
2 жыл бұрын
Steeley Dan as well!
@NickNicometi
Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
Massive respect to these guys. Seems these days everybody wants to be the rock/pop star first but it's great to see that there's always a place for the real musos who simply enjoy playing (and happen to be bloody good at it). The stars get the fame & adulation and all the crap that goes with it but these fellas get the real satisfaction of doing a job they love and can still lead regular lives. Real musicianship - irreplaceable.
@silly8395
6 жыл бұрын
but they're not rock stars; it's sad actually
@031767sc
5 жыл бұрын
computers
@wileuler5461
4 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how this lays, but if they’re not, shouldn’t all of these session musicians be in the rock, blues, Jazz & country music hall of fames?
@mairianncullen8753
Жыл бұрын
This is why Joe Chambers did so much to create the MUSICIANS Hall of Fame - to honour these superb musicians.
Session musicians are the back none of the music industry. These are the unsung heroes that make make the “talent” sound good.
I love this one. So SO So much difference working with a real studio musician that really wants to make the best of what you want , rather than the one that believes he should make your music what he wants. I have dealt with both. These guys are KING in my minds world.
The unsung heroes of modern music's success.
There’s a bunch of guys from the 70s/80s that played on everything. Jeff Porcaro, Steve Gadd, Steve Lukather, Larry Carlton, Nathan East, Pino Palladio, Greg Philangines, everything they do sounds great. I’d buy an album just to hear theses guys.
There's no digital musical source that can replace real musicianship. Support live music in your nieborhood.
@hiponicaudio7930
4 жыл бұрын
Midi 2.0 was just released. Game on
@melodymakermark
4 жыл бұрын
To borrow from the great ‘70’s studio guitarist Dean Parks, “before Pro Tools, there were pros”.
@robertdore9592
4 жыл бұрын
Well said. The irony is that there are millennials hunting high and low for old vinyl whilst downloading free shit from the web and wondering why the market for session players is shrinking fast.
Unsung heroes that make the music come alive!
The percussion is like the spices in cooking.
Bill Schnee! I met him when I was in college in the late 1960s and he was starting out in a little studio in Glendora, CA - Mark Records with Marlin Jones. Bill engineered a lot - his "bread and butter" - but he knew music forward and backwards. You could go into the studio with Bill and come out with a record, the music on which would be a couple levels of better than when you started. And from what I've seen and heard since then, Bill is still doing that! He has his own studio now - he still can get it out of musicians!
Years after this was filmed, Music was completely lost with producers. Session musicians are doing fantastic because none of these "producers" on Fruity Loops can actually play music. Didnt see that coming did yall?
@NickNicometi
Жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂
Cool documentary! Brings me back to the early 90s when I played some session music. I had the most fun, that was after having puked my stomach empty from the nerves of being asked to play on on one of our country's biggest rock names =) That first session the producer and the artist asked me if I was feeling ill; I was pale. So I told them I hardly had any sleep and I actually felt sick from nerves. The laughed and told me not to worry. The artist in question did the coolest thing. He put his arm around me shoulder and walked with me to the studio floor and he said: "I heard you play your swinging rhythm guitar; almost like a drummer. So you can do this with your eyes closed, I'm not asking something that you're not comfortable with. You just play like you do onstage only the chords are different. Just let it flow kid! You'll do fine!"
@kenaestheticfm
4 жыл бұрын
Raymond Doetjes Thanks for sharing! Thats a story. ❤️ I heard a similar thing where John Mayer was invited to play on a Herbie Hancock album, and John was p nervous cuz he was a big fan of Herbies. But then he realized, wait a minute, if Herbie is asking me to play, then he probably just wants me to just be me 😊
@NickNicometi
Жыл бұрын
"One of our country's biggest rock names", yet you don't share the name of the musician. Probably not so big. Oh, and musicians are musicians, artists are artists. I happen to be both. These are not interchangeable terms. No one ever refers to an artist as a musician, nor should they, and neither is a musician complemented on the "art" in their latest recording. Get it?
@jamesparker1063
Жыл бұрын
@@NickNicometi no,actually,,,what you are, is an ignorant/arrogant WIND-BAG......got it?
I'm sitting here thinking, i would love to sing with these guys, but my timing is not perfect - alot, but by the end of the video, i understood that the human side of this business is what makes it real
Excellent presentation, thank you ! Bill P.
Beautiful it is about the people playing together and feeling the groove.
Great stuff here. The best musicians I know are rarely seen. The best music out there today is being done the old way. We're due for a resurgence in great musicianship, I think.
Amazing... brings back a lot of memories of working in Cali in the '90's. Great stuff!
The session musicians at Motown Records were what really made Motown Records!
@Joesfosterdogs
6 жыл бұрын
Funk Bros...great film, must see for all
@seurynck
6 жыл бұрын
Just to clarify, the documentary about the Funk Brothers is called Standing In The Shadows of Motown. ~ Peace!
@donnythompson8029
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome players... Earl Van Dyke, James Jamerson, Bob Babbit, Benny Benjamin, Pistol Allen, Joe Hunter, Joe Messina, Robert White... The unsung heroes behind The Temps, Tops, Supremes, Contours, Smokey, Stevie Wonder - although Stevie is an amazing musician and worked on sessions as a studio musician, too, as did Marvin Gaye. Standing In the Shadows of Motown is a must-see if you want to to know the real source of the Motown magic. Other must see docs are The Wrecking Crew, and Muscle ShoalS. FWIW
@docsavage8640
3 жыл бұрын
Not without the amazing songwriters, though
my teacher is making me watch this for homework.
@kameronplayz530
3 жыл бұрын
same haha
Just as important, along with the Wrecking Crew, there was the The Funk Brothers, and don't forget about the female session vocalists (The Andantes) that did most of the back up vocals for some of the best of the best Motown songs. With the Andantes, think about Jackie Wilsons-- "Your Love Keeps Lifting Me (Higher and Higher) or any of the Four Tops tunes as an example of their contribution to that Motown sound not to mention they did back up vocals for many other artists.
The 16th note percussion/piano thing just felt so sweet. Moments of joy just so fine. Thanks for it. Session people are the blood of real music. My take on it is, if you can hold still, you ain't doin it right.
That jam at the end !!!!!
What a lovely warm human being is Lenny Castro! What he says about every musician having something to offer is, in my view, so wise and so true. All this stuff about X is better than Y and A sucks, but B is superb is completely pointless. Very enjoyable video - I would have liked to have seen and heard from some of the studio regulars with Steely Dan. I'm one of many who feel that SD have taken the art of the session musician to an all time high. Thanks for uploading.
My limited experience of these guys is that they are so advanced in their playing that there's a tendency to overcomplicate. That's part of why Ringo was a great drummer for the Beatles, he never did to much, everything was measured to the song. That in itself is a real skill.
@sunsetlights100
Жыл бұрын
Uknow not Riingo but a professional session drummer did most of the beetles album studio drum work right!
@mesolithicman164
Жыл бұрын
@@sunsetlights100 No I don't know that. And I don't know anyone with an ounce of common sense who thinks that.
@andyokus5735
Жыл бұрын
Drummers like Bernard Purdie played on lots of Beatles songs. Even McCartney said in " Musician " magazine in an interview in the 80's that they had to show and even play all the drum parts for Ringo. It's all part of the hype and bullshit of the music business. You want to know what the music business is really all about? It's selling electric guitars. The music business is over, it's dead. You can't even go out anywhere anymore and see a live band. At 66 it's a major effort to even touch my instruments. I've saved myself a major amount of psychological pain by accepting reality.
@mesolithicman164
Жыл бұрын
@@andyokus5735 There is a jazz/ prog rock guy called Andy Edwards who has talked about these subjects. Definitely on Ringo, where he explains why Ringo is a brilliant drummer, and also on the music business. I think you'll hear a very interesting take on how it is now, with the coming of social media, a business geared around the personalities and how albums are part and parcel of an audience buying into that individual. So you get the album for free but when he tours you pay £100 for a ticket and buy a load of 'merch'. But there is still an album, a tour and concerts, so, work for musicians. It's a very interesting channel for musician types.
Wow, Lenny is the man. "It always comes back to the players."
@funklover24
3 жыл бұрын
Remember hearing him live with Toto, once with Jeff. Unforgettable! ❤🙏
@svenjansen2134
10 ай бұрын
It's always the player. Same instrument sounds different in other hands.
These guys pay their dues, not just with time practiced, but with all the ups & downs that come with truly honing their craft. I watched a Doc, called 20 ft from stardom about back ground singers & essentially they had the same story. Few become stars, but even for them, what do they do In the mean time ? How can they pay their living expenses ? One way is as a session musician, but once your plugged into it, you quickly find a comradary, a community with a mutual passion. Having a band is time consuming, expensive & finding & keeping the right fits is difficult. A popular Session studio networks everything you need, & you get to collaborate with players that understand your all pieces of the puzzle & you get paid for doing it. Even without a huge pay day, it's enticing.
Looking forward to the Porcaro:Band of Brothers documentary..They deserve their own doc as much if not more,than anyone...I'm sure Bill Schnee and Lenny Castro would agree...One recorded them and Lenny owes his career to Jeff for getting him on The Boz Scaggs "Silk Degrees"Tour.....Anticipating this film very much....
@Joesfosterdogs
6 жыл бұрын
Wanted to do this years ago...let us know when it comes out or info!!!
George Benson's album Breezin' was recorded and mixed by Bill Schnee at his studio in two days. Was in the charts for years.
We'll never see the heyday of big artists using the best players taking time to get the right sound however long it took! Plus the calibre of those great artists is not around today!
Great seeing my friend Mark Prentice in this. Fabulous musician /producer and all round great guy. Working with people like Mark, I learned the importance of creativity on the fly. Things happen quick in the studio these days. And he's a master.
One of the most interesting videos that I have ever seen. These guys and also some ladies are so talented. And also saints, working with the industry like they apparently do.
“Fear no situation”...my new mantra.
Awesome documentary!
Sitting here, enjoying the documentary while plucking away at my bass. Great doc, really helpful and informative.
10:00 that's a perfect performance on percussion and serves the song
thank you for posting this ... it is wonderful!
The groove at the end is what it's all about, spontaneous creativity. Even though I've "played" on 3 albums, I've never had the opportunity to record on an acoustic set of drums. The first time was close, I played a Roland electric kit. First time I had ever played an electric kit and it was a recording session! The producer had the kit programmed for heavy metal players and I'm a jazz player, so a lot of my stuff was not picked up because I didn't hit the pads hard enough. The next two times I recorded were a drag. We would rehearse the songs on our instruments, then go into the mixing room where the producer mixed everything digitally, but was redoing everything with pro-tools. Since the guitar, bass and keyboards were plugged into the system and recorded digitally, he just cleaned some stuff up. He couldn't duplicate the drum parts I played as he was attempting to replicate each beat by listening to the tape. Obviously, this was not in a high dollar studio environment, and the producer did not have years of experience with the software. I wasn't happy with the different drum sounds he selected as it didn't fit the sound of the songs, it distracted. Fortunately, he was very open to accepting suggestions and help, so I sat at the monitor with him, selected each drum and cymbal and programmed the drum parts. For me, as a player, it sucked. I was dying to go into the studio with the other players, sit down and spend as much time as needed, playing the songs, or individual parts, until we got the sound we wanted. In the early stages, I kept pleading with them to allow us to just sit down and play a song, record it, then go back into the mixing room to polish it up. This guy wasn't open to having more than one instrument playing at a time. Very frustrating as it is when musicians are playing together that the real creativity occurs.
@boobooday
8 жыл бұрын
+James Eginoire This makes me so sad! So much is lost when music is turned into "production" rather than "performance!" Thanks for your comment!
@seekingwisdom8
8 жыл бұрын
I take it a step beyond; For me it's never a performance. I feel every single note and all the notes in between, so when I play, it's my passion that people hear. I'm the guy that drives everyone around me crazy because I feel the rhythm in everything and am constantly tapping out a beat, no matter where I am. In fact, I was picking up a prescription one day, tapping away as I waited for the pharmacist to ring me up when all of a sudden, with both hands, he held my hands down on the counter and calmly said, "please stop!" There are other videos about session musicians that include Glen Campbell that are very inspiring. Thanks for your vote of confidence.
@seekingwisdom8
8 жыл бұрын
I'm not a session player, but would love to do it. My experience in studios was as a member of two different bands, one a blues band, the other a post rap-core band. In both bands, I had to use an electronic kit due to the expense of recording on an acoustic kit. As of yet, I've not achieved what one would consider a successful career as a drummer, but I've not put forth much effort either. Sorry if you were mislead.
@frankjames6590
7 жыл бұрын
my experience in the beginning of session work..was I played on many demo records..was playing in clubs and was sort of 'Discovered by Arrangers or producers who liked my style...
@Joesfosterdogs
6 жыл бұрын
TOTO Rosanna...end groove
“Like the whole band performing together like they did on analog ”
Love their attitude and lack of ego
These guys understand music. Selflessness is important. Thanks for sharing.
You"ll always need musicians to make music, but you may not need as many.
Thanks for posting. Great documentary.
Good video! Just a good inspiration for players. Nice seeing Jim Keltner, whom in my early days on bass I would sub with the house band at Art Laboe's Oldies club on Sunset. And Kenny Aronoff, whom I got to play with at the Ultimate Jam at the Whiskey, recently. Kenny is a great studio drummer and a "beast" live. Man what an inspiration. And he said he still puts in many hours a day practicing. It was a hint. I'm taking that advice.
I'm very thankful there is the internet, most of the scores of session musicians are out there, in the past these were just known in a small part of the world. Or not at all. Immense respects for these art makers. Till this day, where digital samples and techniques are more and more the new normal, which we also use, and the art slips away, unfortunately. The recent producers are a team, from 5 and more peeps who write a song, it's like making a jigsaw puzzle, I hate it.
There's a quote about comparing the musicianship of today to the golden age era of session musicians 60's/70's/80's ... "Before Pro-Tools ... there were PRO's ... I'll leave it at that ..."
A WONDERFUL VID..............🎸💚
That was SO good! Thank you!
Thanks Jeanette for Posting this.... :) Thumbs Up on these Guys
Great video.. excellent musicians and a real take on the state of the music industry..
"Bless their hearts" right after 20:00. You gotta be from the south to know what that meant.
The story of people who never forget "It don't mean a thing If it ain't got that swing!"
Thank you for sharing this very insightful look at music production today. I would reiterate the sentiments at [19:33] "The good thing about Daw's is they make music creation available to 1000's of 1000's" (I'm excited about that.) " the bad thing about Daw's ..." well if it sounds good it is good and some of us just need to develop their ear and learn to listen to the difference. Then we will have lots of good music from lots of good musicians.
3:28 Kenny Just nails it!
@plgplgplg
8 жыл бұрын
+DJ1812 You're right man. Well said by Kenny
@Jamler3
6 жыл бұрын
Everybody's got something that somebody else doesn't have... :)
@NOTLIM214
6 жыл бұрын
Being a drummer myself for many years. I know what Kenny is talking about. You should leave your ego at the door, not just in music but in whatever your true passions are. Keep preaching Kenny, cause I hear you.
@HrSamstag
6 жыл бұрын
Jam Camp which means that nobody is equal, actually. This no-ego-equality blabla is spread so massive amongst artists because most of them are extremely lousy economical thinkers.
"The Musical Family" as Lenny says and The "Love" as Kenny says and what Larry Shell says in Hoping that Every Artist and musician will have the Freedeom of making any Music they Way they want to and Mark says; "To Share and Stiving for the same thing together" and later in here He says that The MUSIC is to take Priority Over the Technology in The Creation process in which which HUMANS ought to be making Music and NOT The Computer which I agree with...and Russ says that Session Players are; A RELIC...But with Dyan & Grant Olsen they had The HONOR of having Lenny Castro come and Play on Their Project...and yet like Russ says; most people can Not affod to Hire a Studio Session Musician...LOVE The Jam Session of Lenny & Kenny doing the Drum & Percussion Track and then Mark 3 days later in the Studio joining the Track with His Awesome Keyboarding...
Jeanette Castillo !! I See at the end, during The Credits, that YOU Wrote & Produced This! AWESOME Work..I LOVE These Guys and This Video Jeanette. Thanks very much. God Bless Yous. :)
I loved this documentary Ms. Castillo . you gained a new subscriber!
I fell into doing sessions in the late 70's.
What'll save music will be guys and gals getting together and playing pubs and clubs, then people will come to listen thus creating a following. 'If you build it, they will come'.
i remember seeing lenny castro on those early toto music videos.
The song is everything.
thanks for share this one, awesome!!!!
God bless these people
GOOD ENJOYABLE VIDEO...
awesome vid...
Nice video, and interesting observations about the recording scene (in 2012). How come it was only about percussionists, though? Or did I miss something? I'd love to see the same thing done about, say string or horn players vs synths, and maybe about background singers. Having said that, many thanks for the show!
Someone once said the bass players in Nashville who get the most work have good bass fishing boats and are fun to be with. C&W bass is harder than it looks but it looks really easy. Doesn't require a Ron Carter for most tracks, so extra musical considerations are up there...
Mark Jordan especially nailed it about how over use of technology breeded a plethora of mediocre wanna be musicians that never should of been there in the first place! Technology is meant to enhance not be a musician's oxygen tank! Love the outro jazzy playing towards the end segment with Lenny,Kenny & Mark. Example: real live musicians..interacting!
my dad was a session musician for 45 years
"It's not about the notes that you play, It's about the force of your personality on the notes that are already there."
16:38 - The memorial plaque references Studio B being purchased and restored by the Mike Curb Family Foundation. The Mike Curb Congregation sang the theme song, "Burning Bridges," for the movie Kelly's Heroes.
Wow... there's a song byte starting at 10:30 about "gathering clouds"... I love that. THat song available for purchase? Awesome vid. TY!
I just looked at the credits for Bridges to Babylon, at AMG and those for Kenny Aronoff say: "Unknown Contributor Role" (irony?), but his story here explains what his role was (or should have been). What he says at 3:28 is very meaningful and maybe should be taken to heart by all those at a place like YT, who's main subject seems to be who's "better" or "best".
The Foo Fighter's Wasting Light, recorded analog on tape in garages. 4 Grammy awards. Tech is awesome but not always necessary
I love this
Yessssss, and Thanx.
Excellent.
A major issue in pop music today is that instruments don't really matter anymore. Listen to mix of most pop songs today. It's 95% percussion (usually programmed) and vocal. 5% harmony instrument (acoustic guitar or keyboard) providing the chordal coloring. No solos. When Uptown Funk came along, it was a revelation. It topped the charts for months, but it didn't change music. So whaddya need session guys for?
@oholm09
5 жыл бұрын
Andrew James I'm an musician composer producer and I bring back the 80s production
Nicky Hopkins is my favorite session player. Too bad he didn't get much credit/money from his contributions but that's the life of a session musician.
6:00-6:30 good Kenny / Mick moment
Good Video Seams That its hard to Get some one to play in the Background musicians all try to be the Star and out Front Then you end up with A loud Mess This is why you Track each one at a Time For Adjustments Recording and music needs to work Tougather and Fun make it Sound Great !
This is definitely a musician's video
These guys were indeed the last class of studio guys....now we have computers. Shame....some of the best musicians in the world got together this way. Listen to Aja from Steely Dan.
CHANNEL IS USEFUL
Lenny is awesome! Toto Randy Crawford George Benson Boz scaggs Christopher cross Mike McDonald the list is endless!
Loved the video and I get the lament about technology replacing real musicianship. However, since I'm a piano technician for over 40 years I couldn't help noticing, sadly. there was not an acoustic piano in sight. I tune in the NYC area for 3 recording studios. Each has a great acoustic piano. It's good to remember all the piano sounds from a digital keyboard start with an awesome acoustic piano sound. Which, like great musicianship, can only be replicated digitally, not produced organically. I guess it's like the guys that made the best buggy whips lamenting about the dawn of the automobile age.
@docsavage8640
3 жыл бұрын
Can't top the sound of a real piano
duane allman was a session guy that played on many songs from the mid sixities
Mark prentice Hi from your old friends in Watertown
I've noticed celebrity musicians offering musical instruction on the internet
The unsung heroes
Mick J is a subtle cowboy.
about ten minutes in to the video there is a song playing as Lenny is doing his percussion thing. It's a female vocalist singing "I live beneath the shadows". Who is that and what is the name of the song? Thanks
Lenny Castro!!!
@hugolafhugolaf
6 жыл бұрын
Fidel's son!
The session musician phase didn't end in the 1960's. It continues all the time even today.... doubles in every band out there ... even double lead singers ! Sometimes they don't use doubles they swap somebody else out .there is more to the music industry than meets the public guy it is very very cutthroat and controlled
@KTHKUHNKK
3 жыл бұрын
I believe the business has always been cut throat. But if you can find your peaceful spot. And you realize you don't have to compete. All you have to do is produce a quality sound. That the majority will like and feel. I guess the thing is. Is that everybody has an ear for something different. Keith Kuhn KK Motion Pictures Also on KZread
@NickNicometi
Жыл бұрын
@@KTHKUHNKK Life is competition.
@bg357wg
10 ай бұрын
@@NickNicometiAccumulating the means to survive is competition. Once you have the proper means, life should not be a competition.
@NickNicometi
10 ай бұрын
@@bg357wg I believe you are clueless of life.
@bg357wg
10 ай бұрын
@@NickNicometi I believe you are narrow-minded
There should be a quantize grid in every DAW that's just called "Lenny"
Trivia: Which session musician did Elton John ask to join his band after working with him in 1972 for a few days in the studio?
Anybody knows the piece of music plays in the background on 16:35?
I enter here beacause I thought he was Kurt Russell, lol.
Mellencamp's "Scarecrow" should have been titled "Kenny Aronoff & Friends" or something of that order.
@mikeschouten4732
6 жыл бұрын
Robby Gaume Yes! He absolutely tore it up on Mellencamp's Uh Huh too...one of the most raucous recording sessions ever by all accounts.
Let's see, there was that other song they put me way out in front in the mix, what was it again......oh yes! Don't Fear The Reaper! The producer kept asking for more cowbell!
Nice.