Just because he was nice to her, didn't immediately set boundaries or underestimated the threat from her does NOT MEAN he encouraged the stalking!!!! 👿 Shame on you!! He did not deserve being terrorized and STALKED by this woman! She went after his friends and parents too! She's a criminal.

@kristina4395

12 күн бұрын

He checked her online, saw she was a convicted stalker that was in jail and then he went on facebook and 10 sec later ACCEPTED her friend request.. thats when it STARTED. He had a choice to not accept when he was aware who she was.

@S-rn6xn

9 күн бұрын

@@kristina4395 I hope you say that to every single woman who stays with abusive men then

@mary_syl

9 күн бұрын

@@kristina4395 Victim blaming 👎

@rachelharding751

6 күн бұрын

⁠@@S-rn6xnexactly! Whilst I’ve never been in an abusive relationship, it feels very different inside a relationship than it looks from the outside. You’re dealing with real people. We don’t always behave rationally.

See how male victims aren’t taken as seriously? They talk about baby reindeer and say ‘oh he encouraged it’ but hen they show a video of a female victim where they’ve created a video and serious campaign yet don’t seem to blame the woman for encouraging it… why don’t they talk about the uproar in male victims coming forward to abuse from women?

@DM-it1qf

12 күн бұрын

Because in this instance they were speaking about a woman who was murdered.

@S-rn6xn

12 күн бұрын

@@DM-it1qfthe women in the video looks very alive to me

@msmilano7091

9 күн бұрын

The whole “ what was she wearing@ topic comes up anytime someone talks about Make/female SA It’s the first thing a woman gets asked if she reports it. For some reason there is always some attempt at justification either way

@S-rn6xn

9 күн бұрын

@@msmilano7091 that’s a lot. Women get campaigns started for them and women March through streets. What happens when a man is a victim? The woman who did it gets a chance to explain herself on a tv interview, women everywhere make excuses for her, say he is just as bad, loose women the ‘feminists’ say ‘he encouraged it’ (which they’d never say if it was a woman victim), a tend on tiktok of women making jokes about the whole thing and what she said to him, and it’s overall not taken as seriously as when it’s a woman…

Stalkers don’t care about restraining orders, it’s futile, it’s complex , you can’t reason with madness.

@angeleyes3396

17 күн бұрын

So true. You’ll save yourself time and a lot of heartache to either get them arrested or move/change your number.

I do like Coleen but was extremely disappointed in her and Brenda when they said this poor man had encouraged it at a times! You'd never say this about a woman who was a victim of stalking. The series was showing a real situation where things arent black and white, the man clearly had his own mental health issues and had very low self esteem, so you can see why at times he craved the attention. These comments made me feel very uncomfortable for this poor guy

@mazda2038

28 күн бұрын

He himself admits he did encourage as such

@anisah8807

28 күн бұрын

Richard Gadd himself admits this tho, he kept messaging back and meeting up with her. A woman who had unwanted attention wouldn’t do this

@SaintMTi

28 күн бұрын

But he did encourage it

@flowerpink724

28 күн бұрын

She was talking about her feelings throughout, not her overall conclusion.and she talked about her own stalking issue. And how she felt bad for the guy. Your comment is wrong. You obviously didn't watch the whole clip

@jacquelinehillson9589

27 күн бұрын

Trauma makes folk do strange things.

He did not encourage anything. He was a kind person. And like all kind people he blamed and questioned himself. He felt responsible for this complete stranger. I know that feeling

Remember the actor who played him is the actual writer as well

@cherylvince3872

28 күн бұрын

The actor/writer is the guy who suffered the abuse

@jackd9928

19 күн бұрын

The same guy it happened to (allegedly). Never mind the writer.

The real Martha is ranting on her Facebook page, she isn't well, she actually looks, types and sounds very much like Martha.

@wickedwitchoftheeast88

23 күн бұрын

She clearly enjoys the attention

@Wkeoe9ejejeidjneoepdnsue9rbr

22 күн бұрын

Wait, isn't he ranting, too? I am on episode 5, but to me, this seems both ways.

Trust Colleen to make another topic all about her!! Bore off 🤣🤣

If a woman was abused and stalked these woman would not be saying she encouraged it

@grrrrbabyverygrrr8165

19 күн бұрын

Yeah leave that to men to say. Like they do on almost every case like this. "She was asking for it" etc.

@S-rn6xn

16 күн бұрын

@@grrrrbabyverygrrr8165no they don’t at all. But look at the difference in the conversation about the man and women in this video… the man ‘oh he encouraged it.’ Then the women, they make a video campaign for it and take it seriously…

@grrrrbabyverygrrr8165

16 күн бұрын

@S-rn6xn this was a very recent thing, though. Up until about 2015 and even now, women still get blamed when people attack them. Men need to start talking more like women did. But your support of each other is abysmal.

@hairgeek95

15 күн бұрын

I read another comment they said he admitted that he did encourage it at some point.

@Liamgane2

14 күн бұрын

@@hairgeek95 tbf most victims of abuse normally go back to there abuser and keep going back . Men or woman victims

I was stalked and the police asked me if I had encouraged it! 😢

@onehandednedned6673

22 күн бұрын

Yes the police have to do that, cut ties or not

@afveteran

22 күн бұрын

Police can be insensitive, because their training I believe is shades of black and while to gray for instance. I think any person who is questioned by the police choose there words wisely and note the name of the police person.

What do you mean by 'lots of stalkers have mental health issues'? Stalking IS a mental health issue.

Women are a million times more vulnerable and suffer much more from stalkers....

Psychology in Seattle channel did a fantastic analysis of this show

This is where care in the community has got us to.

Colleen making it all about her again

what's bizarre is the stalker came out saying they're going to take legal action against the makers of the show and yet they wanted to remain private, I'm like you've just outed yourself lol. I was stalked for years by someone I knew and nothing was done, there needs to be more put in place to protect women, children AND men because we will at some point in our lives have to deal with something like this.

@JupiterSlim

20 күн бұрын

Yep and she just did a taped interview with Piers Morgan that will be coming out soon

I’m more worried about Darien?! Why won’t he now go to the polcie

I really cannot with Ruth as a moderator. The lady does not allow free conversation and she takes a whole minute to ask a simple question.

@monalisa7

29 күн бұрын

Agree with you today. I thought Charlene was Interruption Queen but Ruth was just as bad today. Didn’t let Brenda finish.

@katiecashman922

29 күн бұрын

Agreed

@95jujo

28 күн бұрын

No . Ruth is a great anchor. Charlene seems to have nowt to say. She has not been stalked. 🤷‍♀️

@sabinabirnie3761

28 күн бұрын

I do wish Colleen would not dye her hair such a severe color, I always find myself looking at her hairstyle and not concentrating on what she is saying, I like her very much and prefer her as the show’s anchor to Ruth. Colleen is an attractive lady and it would be nice to see more of her face than this mass of black hair.

@natsdaley9615

27 күн бұрын

She's married to Eamon Holmes nuff said

I’ve been stalked and it’s awful , it makes you so anxious and wary to walk down the road on your own 😢 I’m glad that there is a protection order in place now . There wasn’t mobile phones about when it happened to me 🙁

Absolutely enjoyed it

My comment is not about ‘Baby Reindeer’, it’s about Coleen’s rude behaviour……….Janet apologised to Coleen for interrupting when expressing her thoughts…….but no apology from Coleen when she in turn interrupted Janet……….this just stood out to me.

This goes both ways!!

Please spare us from the hasbeens and their unsolicited opinions

@deirdreloughran8258

15 күн бұрын

Agreed

I am on the first episode.

@bluecheesey701

29 күн бұрын

Is very good I watched it all lastnight, gripping

How can you analyze it when half the panel haven’t watched it through?

Oh he encouraged it. You would never hear them say that about a woman. Women are innocent even when. Proven guilty. Zero accountability.

@deadshot3993

21 күн бұрын

Welcome to a man world we always the blame

If she really did all he said then yes she is a disgusting human being, I have to say episode 4 hit me so hard.....

I believed him from the start, stalkers don't care if you call the police, courts or anything. You're their target and that's all they see.

Its a brilliant depiction of Narcissism

@Purplelemon5033

20 күн бұрын

Just imo Id say more Machiavellianism . I don’t think Martha loved herself and he wasn’t rich or famous or anything so there was nothing for her to gain materialistickly she was obsessed with him . Very complicated person I’d love to know what a psychiatrist would think

@orangewarm1

15 күн бұрын

Nothing to do with narcissism.

Should be called the colleen show.all about her as usual

Half of them haven’t watched and they are bluffing.

Whats wierd about all this is if the nice side of her had stayed nice they probably could of become good friends qnd helped each other.

they cannon admit it…

Its about damage. Damage ruins lives and has ripple effects.

I see a whole new law coming out of this.... Marthas Law... to protect perps.... not the victims.... Its an interesting scenario at the very least.... feel for all involved... But do believe Fiona is revelling in all the drama

I found it extremely difficult to watch . This happens in our world . There is very little help available. These things are disturbing. And it’s complicated. This is more what we should be talking about - help for both parties .

@Dannyboy0202

15 күн бұрын

It was made up its not a true story

Let’s not talk about he’s own issues.what a great series.apart from anything else.the guy is such a great actor,hope he doesn’t go back into comedy,not with that acting talent.

This programmes not helping people who may be fearfully anyway?

Colleen is true narcissist charm plays the victim the show went down hill with that pure manipulist on board

@orangewarm1

15 күн бұрын

You might be a narcissist

@orangewarm1

15 күн бұрын

You might be a narcissist

Of course a group full of women think it's his fault, if the roles were reversed they would not be as kind to Martha

@FlyyHigh834

18 күн бұрын

it's not his fault but he had issues as well

@invisibleman4827

14 күн бұрын

​@@FlyyHigh834And? Arguably that makes him even more vulnerable to her exploitative behaviour.

Aww, that voice Colleen puts on to sound intelligent. Bless.

If Richard truly did not want the real Martha (Fiona) to be flushed out, he should have insisted Netlix at least chose a very thin blond actress with maybe a Texas accent.

@gilliandowney5225

13 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

What happened to the man that abused him ?

@kateleahmarie

27 күн бұрын

I know! Thats the real story

Not Coleen making up a fake story about her ‘stalkers’

Colleen that color looks fabulous on you! Definitely your color. Love when Ruth moderates!

Lose women always make it about themselves 🙈🙈

L gs 😊24 h r s b

Brenda looks so defeated today.

@rodgerkehl8399

29 күн бұрын

Wouldn’t you be? Sat beside the likes of Cawleen

@nickywilks7928

28 күн бұрын

I thought this when she was on last week.

@katfanker

28 күн бұрын

She never gets a word in, love Brenda!

@msrainbowbrite

28 күн бұрын

@@rodgerkehl8399 what is your problem with Coleen?

He's a fraud

i found it soo frustrating. When he had a chance to get out, he jumped back in

@benjames77bd

27 күн бұрын

They are not very bright

@FlyyHigh834

18 күн бұрын

and kept going back to the creepy disgusting guy who R'd him

@magosianogowska5523

2 күн бұрын

and i hope you never have to come to understand the confusion and fear this kind of harassment causes. it causes you to lose yourself completely. trauma bonding can occur too. it’s far more complicated that most people understand.

Was so annoying fast forward the last episode

I hated this movie!! Don’t know why it’s so popular

It was all his fault from the beginning. He was pathetic. He encouraged her every moment. Even when he confronted her he still managed to goad her into doing it more. No wonder the police don't take it seriously. He is not the victim, she is. She's a victim of his manipulation.

@theforeignone721

16 күн бұрын

How did you watch the show and come to that conclusion??? Tf it was clearly her manipulating him

I'm sorry but this man is no victim he encouraged all of it wake up people

The true is, he caused everything that happened to him. A weak individual craving admiration

I'm male, been groped numerous times. Never felt abused.

@invisibleman4827

14 күн бұрын

Most men do, even if you don't.

@abe9458

14 күн бұрын

Not about you mate

@i67x

14 күн бұрын

@@abe9458 agreed, it's not about the woke victim society either.