Your husband is VERY scary....make sure you keep tabs on him...make sure he is not a serial killer or child molester....
@milcahkabiru2818
Жыл бұрын
@@attilacsipkes4210 ❤❤ XXXL
@AnnetteandSlavi Жыл бұрын
For Africans, dowry is very important..if you’re dating someone from a different race, you just have to explain why it’s important and come to an agreement ❤
@kaninamargaret8025
Жыл бұрын
NOT TO ALL FAMILY
@sonialewis321
Жыл бұрын
It depends my dear
@kaninamargaret8025
Жыл бұрын
@@sonialewis321 THAT’S WAY!!! THE WHITE PEOPLE THEY DON’T HAVE THIS CULTURE. AM BEST A MAN FROM YOUR CULTURE!!
@gloriabowie5629
Жыл бұрын
When couples are starting off, they need all the money they can get, in America the father of the bride pays for the wedding, if parents can’t afford it they pay for the wedding themselves, the man takes care of the woman so no money is needed to be given to the parents.
@kaninamargaret8025
Жыл бұрын
@@gloriabowie5629 EXACTLY
@williamswetnam4070 Жыл бұрын
I am American, and my fiancée is Ugandan. I had no problem with paying the bride price. What confused me was how much to offer her father. The only advice my fiancée could offer was "it comes from your heart". OK but still I need to know some average figure. US$500? US$5000? How much??? After much internet research, I finally found that the average bride price is 10M Ugandan shillings (about US$2700). This was offered, and accepted, plus various farm animals and a satellite TV set.
@simplelifestyl9021
Жыл бұрын
Wow
@nabbumbadoreen8649
Жыл бұрын
U paid that because u could afford it but in Uganda u give any thing u have in terms of money but the main issue coz some even ask for the Bible or QURAN and that is for the father only but the cattles are also a must for serving the community and then the TV and others for the mother to share with her friends
@julietlubega9492
Жыл бұрын
@@nabbumbadoreen8649 but not all Ugandan tribes do dowry and you should know that
@majestymaurice3239
Жыл бұрын
I'm Ugandan but I'm not gonna comment anything on this, this dowry thing depends on the family you're marrying into. It's not fixed by culture or tradition. Yes,it's respectable if bride price is paid, but "how much" varies from family to family. Period
@ladyjuiceykitchen8096
Жыл бұрын
I only know Indian whom the woman pay
@monicastevens5491 Жыл бұрын
It is biblical.. He who finds a wife, finds a treasure.. there are no wirthless treasures.. Men, pay your bride price❤
@lifewithveronicah
Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t work like that
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
With the biggest respect dear Monica. Isaac were staying 14 years with his father-in-law for the younger daughter, and another 6 years for the brought goods. The father didnt want his daughter to leave, after he loved Isaac and he didnt want him to leave either, thats why he set up strict rules. If you want to take an example from the Bible, this is amongst the most popular ``stories`` and it contains both cultures. Man-made culture. Not God-made. Apart from the story, yes i treasure my Wife, like i said Her value cannot be measured in worldly materials. Thank you for your comment, God bless you.
@tuforu4
Жыл бұрын
You GENIUS I BET AND WELL TRAVELLED
@marymuchai3242 Жыл бұрын
Atti it's not buying a lady but giving a token to her parents for appreciation
@claireclarkeignite8458 Жыл бұрын
In my country Jamaica 🇯🇲 we do not have a Dowry process we take care of the wedding and family can help but the man takes care of the family. Now that both parties are in the working world the man is still the dominant supporter and the woman helps however even that is shifting as the women are more prevalent in the workforce
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@pearlsentle1293 Жыл бұрын
From my country BOTSWANA🇧🇼 its the same as KENYA, the groom pays dowry to my parents as appreciation
@stellachakufora9415 Жыл бұрын
In africa if you didnt pay bride price they think its a disrespect to your inlaws .its a part of appreciation to your inlaws.thats our culture as africans.if you didnt that women will never be happy in her entenal life😢😢
@shalonshantel9525 Жыл бұрын
Am also shocked because in my country Uganda is the Man who needs to pay the dowry for a woman thanking the parents of being raised her because if a woman pays the dowry it shows that she is the one who marries a Man
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. God bless you.
@divinepowermissions8 ай бұрын
Good insight! In Africa if you don't provide dowry the family of the gal will never attach value to you the man (,bridegroom) taking their daughter. Embrace that if you need your wife not to feel out of place whenever she's among her own people and for you as a man to be respected in her family. There is no debate on this or else she'll always be considered as one who went through the ventilator instead of rightly walking through the front door into the man's house. That's said, it was nice you both came to an agreement and are now happily married, congratulations!!
@zenammberane3939 Жыл бұрын
Hey Liz, thanks for sharing yes in Kenya that’s what many cultures do.
@irisgreenaway2971 Жыл бұрын
Such an educational topic....I love it because all people need to learn and respect other people's culture. I am from an island in the Caribbean and we don't have dowry but the women's parents are expected to pay for the wedding process such as the dress, the food, the presentation for the party and the man is expected to provide and safeguard his wife and future family. I think it's wonderful when both parties are from 2 different cultures it's a great learning experience .In my eyes you both are the best youtube couple dowry or no dowry you will always have my vote on whatever decision you make 👍🏾 Liz and Atti you are the best....lots of Love for both of you from Bronx, NY
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and supporting us! It is good to learn that not every African countries are the same in the dowry question.
@jenniferakali8408
Жыл бұрын
@@attilacsipkes4210 I know more of bride price than dowry.
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 💕💕💕
@serahwairimu4699
Жыл бұрын
I have always desired to date a white guy but can't imagine my family paying the dowry whereas in Kenya it's the man who is supposed to pay dowry
@beatricekasudi4743
Жыл бұрын
@@serahwairimu4699 hahaha mbavu zangu
@veronicawilliams2738 Жыл бұрын
Atti & Liz, Blessings to both I am from Panama🇵🇦 Central and South America. We don’t have dowry in my country but the bride parents are responsible for all the wedding expenses. ❤️🙏🏾🇵🇦
@brettverdant9486 Жыл бұрын
Very educational to many of us I must admit. You guys are just blessed to be together because of you'll beautiful souls and that's my take. Love you guys❤❤❤
@caristerjomo2960 Жыл бұрын
Atti please follow kenyan culture pay dowry to my sister don't ignore
@Light_Of_God_ Жыл бұрын
My husband is white, from Ireland, he is Irish but he paid dowry, m from South Africa, we call it lobola, is all about uniting the two families and follow the culture, Attie needs to understand the culture differences
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
As Atti needs to understand my culture, its fair that we also understand his❤️all cultures are equally important, we cant dismiss another person's culture just cos we feel ours is the right one, thats why both sides need to find a mutual fair solution ❤️😍😍😍
@Light_Of_God_
Жыл бұрын
@@liz_atti exactly, I just love you both, God bless you always
@anneluchera3896 Жыл бұрын
It's a way of appreciation and respect to the family of the gal
@gladysbuter6267 Жыл бұрын
Am a Kenyan married to an American,my kikuyu tradition there’s no exact figure,you can give what you have it’s just appreciating and getting blessings from the parents
@esternakisa4963
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
😍❤️
@duniainamambotv.worldhasissues
Жыл бұрын
U cheating people here tell truth
@tuforu4
Жыл бұрын
KIKUYU are SCAREY DANGER.
@janewajenefa
8 ай бұрын
That's a lie!
@helendavou3948 Жыл бұрын
In Nigeria, the husband pays the dowry and also takes responsibility for wedding preparations and also buys clothes and shoes for the bride
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Helen.
@twesigyerosemaryblessings6342
Жыл бұрын
Oh yes Helen , the same from my country RWANDA 🇷🇼🇷🇼!
@fin-rb3yz
Жыл бұрын
thats why i love nigeria....you dont tolerate nonsense....
@marywaithira6428
Жыл бұрын
Same to my tribe here in Kenya
@shalonshantel9525
Жыл бұрын
It's the same as in Uganda 🇺🇬
@rosewoiemitau8376 Жыл бұрын
Nakuelewa vizuri sana Lizz
@paulachin9130 Жыл бұрын
Atti good for you because now I think other cultures shouldn't always expect others to follow their culture but not yours, maybe after seeing your video they won't just accept without meeting each other half way. I'm originally from Caribbean, Jamaica, now in the UK, and our culture is the brides parents and bride who plan and pay for the wedding.
@gloriabowie5629
Жыл бұрын
Amen, it’s 2023
@kimking5481 Жыл бұрын
Liz and Atti I love you both and I pray Almighty God will bless and strengthen your bond for life...
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Amen🙏🏽🙏🏽
@estherdeloach Жыл бұрын
Yes, in Kenya it involves a lot including, education, age, purity. If the girl is more educated it’s more dowry the man pays, as well as if the girl is a virgin and never been married before it’s more dowry for the man to pay. It’s also more dowry if the bride is getting married with no children out of wedlock. Traditionally it’s also considered how well a girl could cook. The man is the one who pays for dowry and most of the wedding expenses, but sometimes both sides of the family form wedding committees between friends and family to help raise funds for the wedding . A man who do not pay dowry in some communities is sometimes disrespected, not considered man enough and May sometimes not even allowed to bury the wife incase she dies. Sometimes the man may not be fully considered as married if no dowry is paid and sometimes the parents of the girl can decide to stop the wedding when the buns are read in church due to lack of dowry payment. In most African communities Dowry is considered to strengthen the relationship between both families and an appreciation to the girl’s parents for raising a wife to the man, coz they consider the wife will be taking care of the man, cook for him, bear children and be a support to the man. To earn your respect as a man, getting married to an African woman, better pay that dowry😂 traditionally paid in cows, goats, gifts.
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
I love love how you explained in depth 😍 thank you so much for taking time to educate us..lots of love🥰🥰🥰
@zanelemahlangu9342 Жыл бұрын
Am a South African, Ndebele culture. Same as Liz, but when coming to wedding, we value our traditional wedding, where groom has to marry a bride according to our custom slaughtering of cows done at bride home, exchanging cows and using cows bladder to unites our ancestors of both families. White wedding can follow just to celebrate with friends but traditionally wedding is very important to our culture and exchanging of gifts (umembeso) in our language
@risper11 Жыл бұрын
This was a very nice and important topic because most people don't actually know the essence of dowry payment. Most people think that it's a way of buying the other person, which is actually not that. I loved listening to both of your reactions
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much❤️❤️
@claireclarkeignite8458 Жыл бұрын
Love the discussion and the information given re the culture difference between the two countries
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
It is interesting indeed.
@morenajulen2394 Жыл бұрын
Nice topic , happy everything is well . God blessings n love to you guys
@ayoolasalawu9194 Жыл бұрын
Liz you are very right that is African culture even in Nigeria
@twesigyerosemaryblessings6342 Жыл бұрын
From my country RWANDA 🇷🇼, before your wedding , you first go to the girl parent to pay Dowry, then after you go for wedding!!!
@DixonFamilyJa Жыл бұрын
Glad you guys worked it out. Love conquers all
@yekojustine42268 ай бұрын
Honestly Atti. Every word you speak is with so much Humility. You make me fall in love again in full swing. May the good Lord God be with you always.you just said she is worth so much wow wow
@kunihiragrace56358 ай бұрын
Thanks for the good topic coz we need to learn more about different cultures,for us in Uganda,men are the ones supposed to pay dowry not women
@aloyovicky8768 Жыл бұрын
May God make it easy for both of you 🙏 love you guys. I can't miss out on good content from u
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
God bless you.
@merryzvi Жыл бұрын
Great and insightful topic Liz and Attie. Love you guys. In Zimbabwe the guy pays bride pride - cash and cows. The bride prize is not a once off payment though.
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@matshupamabope612 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. This topic is important for everyone to know about multi cultural marriage.💕
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
💕💕
@nickywangui8819 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful couple 💞 May God give both families the understanding to successfull complete the dowry process I had also a white man and this dowry negotiation with him was not good Thanks Atti and Liz for bringing this topic
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
🙏🏿❤️❤️ i hope you both find mutual understanding 😍
@kaizeybeatrice2535 Жыл бұрын
What a lesson, thank you for sharing Liz Culture . I'm also going to change the girl to take my son will have to give me cows Liz😁. Thank you Liz and Otti for sharing it's a very good lesson to learn thank you. Love you lots beautiful.
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
I also want cows for our future daughters lol🤣
@NonhlanhlaMasuku-vo5yx23 күн бұрын
Good topic my darling.If m not mistaken almost all the African countries the part of paying the dowry is everywhere and important to our parents.Its a sign of thanking them for raising us haaibo mukhuwa
@MalikaKenya Жыл бұрын
Woooow I love the narration... At the beginning... Good job mummy
@rosemuema3850
Жыл бұрын
Malika is here👏👏
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Beautiful ❤️❤️
@veronicaannahasford6743 Жыл бұрын
In Ghana , is the man who pays dowry. And the bride and her family provides necessary things for the ceremony. The bridegroom can also help the bride for necessary things they may need. This was how I did mine in 25 years ago🙏🏽
@divine5582 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing up this important topic , Ati explained it so well, Gracias! Yes many western from countries find "dowry payment" shocking. Some even say it's a costly process to marry an African woman but I love what Ati said, " It's a token of Appreciation, her value can't be measured ..... It's vital that we make them understand
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Very true
@happymaggy Жыл бұрын
may God give you both strength 🎉to understand those things
@vero57 Жыл бұрын
I'm from Tanzania 🇹🇿, in swahili we call MAHARI is a man supposed to pay to the woman family. All the best
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you😍
@thresakelly2805 Жыл бұрын
In my culture,the bride family, pay for the wedding. I'm from USA 🇺🇸. Love the video,learning about the culture.
@MomentsWithIbukun5 күн бұрын
In Nigeria the man pays the dowry as appreciation to the lady’s family for raising their daughter well, and to show he can take good care of her in his home.
@calvinsimiyu1337 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is quite educative.... culture integration is beautiful...
@veda-songbird1815 Жыл бұрын
🤔🤔hmmm 🤔🤔maybe when you blend cultures compromising has to come into play🤷🏽♀️hard to follow both sides🤷🏽♀️ deciding as a couple what you will follow and not follow in your home🤦🏽♀️**exactly Atti>finding a mutual way!
@thandocmabena9317 Жыл бұрын
Lizzi im from Zimbabwe yes the man is the one to pay my Dwory to my family❤
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
We are Zimbabweans too 😃❤☮
@thandocmabena9317
Жыл бұрын
Oh wow nice
@alicebowen1018
Жыл бұрын
Yes in my family this is true
@ethelsibanda
Жыл бұрын
I love you my fellow Zimbabweans
@nck2310 Жыл бұрын
I think that DOWRY is CRAZY and i DONT believe in it coz its like buying someone.I have never had one and i never want one,although im married to a sweddish man.Ofcoz me and him have assisted my Kenyan family alot financially with building nice homes,buying cars, opening diff.bussinesses for them BUT i said capital NO to DOWARY discussions!
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting point of view from a kenyan, thank you for sharing,God bless you.
@nck2310
Жыл бұрын
@@attilacsipkes4210 Thanks.
@lucywanjikumandziuk1611
Жыл бұрын
I'm married to a German and they don't know dowry and I tried to explain to him he got so mad that my family want to sell to him a lady so I didn't pay but we have also done alot for my family
@lucywanjikumandziuk1611
Жыл бұрын
There is no dowry in Europe. I'm married in Germany n my daughter in Netherlands n there is no dowry at all but I'm planning to pay my own dowry to my family
@jackiechebet1661
Жыл бұрын
This is my school of thought too
@iamsheryl_h Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree with both of you since I’m in one. But good thing is in the end there’ll be compromise ❤
@katushabeallen9581
Жыл бұрын
Sheryl please i need a white man
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Very true ❤️
@evelynomish7572 Жыл бұрын
Hey Liz would you mind sharing products you use for your face .... please you can do even tutorial for me please....
@katelynnhopkins9309 Жыл бұрын
Both of you are beautiful people. My daughter is American and married a Brazilian man. There was no expectation of a dowry on either side. May God bless your marriage.
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing, God bless you.
@katelynnhopkins9309
Жыл бұрын
@@attilacsipkes4210 ♥️♥️♥️
@elizabethmwalo8424 Жыл бұрын
But not all Europeans do that since my younger son sister got married in 2010, in Eldoret town since they met each other in the town. It's the family from Australia who paid the dowry.
@rizzieangote36 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing up this important information. Dowry is normally a clash even in our own country(between our own communities) would speak about Kenya coz am Kenyan but negotiating and understanding each other's culture Makes it's easier and amgla that you passed this
@normalynmasters9659
Жыл бұрын
Love this topic I am from Jamaica living in the United States watch you guys but never comment but this one Everyone should pay attention and listen in Jamaica too partner come both sides together give preparation gifts both mother father family's friends let me say love you have for each other and and the life you all live in the community and in the world and remember put God first you can't go wrong pray blessing on you both love
@rizzieangote36
Жыл бұрын
@@normalynmasters9659 wow good information right there
@keepingupwithmyshenanigans75908 ай бұрын
Thank goodness that’s not the case in my side of world !! Uk , Caribbean, America!! Imagine in this hard times having to pay the family to get married !! Wow !! It’s the husband and wife pays for everything 😅 probably of you have a rich father in law or father he’ll probably give some money !! 🇹🇹🏴
@thelmaevans6670 Жыл бұрын
Wow ❤You are blessed Liz and Atti,I understand how it can be devastating,that was our case but my hubby had to understand and paid dowry because that is our culture.Anyways all the best good people ❤
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
😍😍😍
@joyceuyirwoth6187 Жыл бұрын
Well explained . Very inspiring to all intending to go interracial marriage.
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
😍
@zanelemahlangu9342 Жыл бұрын
My culture is similar as Liz it's not about selling but makingva relationships to both families. Paying a dowry basically thanking bride family for raising a beautiful daughter and appreciation the beauty, Am a South African Ndebele culture, inbour culture when you marry a bride they are protocol to be followed by groom family since they are the ones who saw a beautiful flower. For examples changing gift (umembeso) where both families slaughter cows same day and exchange half of the cow to each family and both bride and groom binds by cows gall bladder that we called traditionally wedding and its the best Ndebele wedding, white wedding can follow just to celebrate with friends. Love my culture very much
@mariamkawooya467 Жыл бұрын
In Uganda its different my dear whether educated or not dowry depends on a man's potential if he has a lot of money he can pay everything he can 😅
@duniainamambotv.worldhasissues
Жыл бұрын
Same with Luo
@eunicemauta Жыл бұрын
We respect our cultures but dowry will never be enough or you cant equit it with the worth of an individual. It has become like a point of exhortation by some families especially relatives 😅😅. IN SHORT IT SHOULD BE A FORM OF APPRECIATION!
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your opinion, God bless you.
@victorineadhiambo1544 Жыл бұрын
Even me here am having issues with my man about dowry. He is American. I wish u guys a happy future and many children
@dalegeo7836 Жыл бұрын
Very informative. I agree it is a topic of much importance between multicultural couples. Being from the Caribbean, and as far as I know (please don't come get me if I am wrong, just saying what I know of), the wife's family is responsible for her and all things related to the wedding. From that day forward, the man "takes over" the support and care of the woman. Nowadays, most couples are both working, maybe even living on their own, some get married much later even, and parents (guardians) may not be around. Adult children move away from home to another country and settle there. In these cases the couple may set up their own funds to have their wedding (again, this is how I know and understand it, not negating the fact that other cultural differences exist). I have heard of dowry but never knew the process. As much as Atti didn't get into details as such, it was still clearer how that goes. I think it lovely either way, just respect as you both keep saying, and knowing before hand to avoid the shock and possible interpretation form the other party that you are in disagreement or even dispise their culture. So happy to see you all, esp Atti who has been missing in action for some time. ❤🇹🇹❤️
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing your culture with us❤️❤️
@lifewithveronicah Жыл бұрын
In Interracial marriages compromise has to be found in the cultural practices Meet in the middle
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
Totally agree on that. God bless you.
@ladysaw6351 Жыл бұрын
To solve the problems let both families come together and pay, he has is culture he believes in & you have you culture you believe in just saying.
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
They came to a fair agreement 😍
@qarolcrozie Жыл бұрын
I can say Dowry is very important for the African culture and yes you should also go with there culture mummy....I love the fact that you all positive about it❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you hun❤️❤️
@delishataylor7220 Жыл бұрын
You are correct I'm from Jamaica parents of the bride paided and you work as a team 😮😊
@twesigyerosemaryblessings6342 Жыл бұрын
Not buying please, is more respect from family.
@zukiswapatiencengqame2457 Жыл бұрын
In my culture after the groom pay lobola, the bride family must buy presents and bedroom suit for a bride and cutlery, dishes,blankets to their daughter and grooms family but you give gift in your wedding day to the grooms family .I love u guys frm south Africa 🇿🇦 ❤ ♥
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
So your culture includes both? Wow, thanks for sharing. God bless you.
@lifegood8665
Жыл бұрын
It's like our culture
@abigailagyemang7811 Жыл бұрын
First to comment yaaay!! Lots of love from Ghana🇬🇭to you two💯❤❤❤
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
God bless you our sister!
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Lots of love ❤️
@princessnonnieke Жыл бұрын
Waow this very educative Lizz n Atti. I love you so much ❣️🥰. Looking forward to next video
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Love you Princess 🥺❤️
@mariemshololo2 ай бұрын
In South Africa Zulu's and Swazi's a groom pays dowry ( lobola) to the bride's family.When they are married they are supposed to work and maintain their family ( kids) both of them.
@beatricewangeci8472 Жыл бұрын
More advice from lev,lucy natasha his husband papa camel from India also the girl supposed to pay dowry, also from kikuyu culture the man is tha one supposed to pay dowry, more advice from them
@sabinandungu1491 Жыл бұрын
It shall be well dear trust God he knows the process 🙏
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
Amen! God bless you!
@Christine-vf3xv Жыл бұрын
I am so blessed that I live in the USA. My husband and I pay for our wedding. Didn't need our parents to do it.
@stellamundam61048 ай бұрын
I strongly suggest that Atti should pick up some overtime shifts and come up with about $2,500 to $3,000 and take it to Liz's family. It won't hurt you nor diminish you. Some of these things have mystical power in them. Though you claim that you all came to a compromise, I'm 100% sure that there are significant people in Liz's family who are unhappy with the purported deal that you all made. When you love your wife be ready to go above and beyond to do such things for her. It won't change you brother man. In this same culture sometimes the woman earns way more than the man but the man must respect the culture. I have witnessed a case where the couple faced a misfortune, a very severe mishap.
@cram8441 Жыл бұрын
There is no dowry in the western world or in the Caribbean, but the wife's family usually with the help of other friends and loved ones come together to do the wedding and to help to take care of all the important things pertaining to the wedding and the bridal shower and gifts that the bride and groom will need after they move into their home. Sometimes at home can be bought for them or they just rent an apartment or by an apartment but it's furnished partially with gifts that are given to the couple that they would need from friends and family and loved ones, like are fryer, blender mixer bedsheets bed-in-a-bag sets sent this household things, even furniture it depends on what one wants to give them as a gift to speed them on their journey in marriage. And the men can also help with the expenses or even shoulder the expenses if he wants to but when they come together as a couple to plan the wedding they make the decisions as to what they want to do and how much they want to spend and it's between the man and the woman to be married and then they get the family involved. I can understand the situation if an American or Westerner is marrying someone from Africa then they might get the dowry involved, but I believe that African culture should stick to Africa, and if you're marrying in the western world and you don't have to do Dowry. I have African friends from different parts of Africa that got married in the US and didn't do Dowry because it's not an American thing.
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight🙏🏿❤️ yes both need to find a common ground favourable for them❤️
@mamcarl Жыл бұрын
Hapa America hakuna hata Hiyo dowry thing wazungu wa huku hawatambui hiyo
@gracewehrle6813
Жыл бұрын
Mimi niliambiwa nisitanje hiyo kitu 😢😅
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
🤣
@anneandjohan Жыл бұрын
Am also shocked with the Hungarian culture,😮😮😮
@liserorose4713
Жыл бұрын
Good to see you Anne and Johannesen here.
@aliceoloo1264 Жыл бұрын
Oh my God mm sijai ona kamahiyo
@maureenbernard867 Жыл бұрын
I am a Jamaican it the womans family who finance the wedding not the man
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing Caribbean traditions.God bless you.
@katenkosi1389 Жыл бұрын
This is Africa ways for the man to provide for his new wife to be and it's man taking a responsibility to provide for the girl in order for Atti to get married
@lakotraolivia2529 Жыл бұрын
Hi baby girl nice to meet you am always following you am from Uganda. I may like to ask did vist Uganda cause it like I saw you at busowookofalls with your friends 😊
@bijoude.almeida87227 ай бұрын
We don't have pay dowry in Europe. I think it hapens only in Africa. In Portugal we don't have to pay dowry to the brides parents.
@yolandaarnold6046 Жыл бұрын
I really don't think being interracial has anything to do with dowry. In America, traditionally, the bride's family pays for the wedding. I think dowry exist in American culture. You guys are an awesome couple. This is the first step to working things out in your relationship. God bless you. I pray for the day you can live together as husband and wife.
@shirublessed1024
Жыл бұрын
Don't say its not a big issue for sure it is.I think if an African man marries a white woman then the brides family pay the dowry then its posible for our African men to think that they were married by the bride instead of them marrying the bride and I think may be they will not take marriage serious and will be reluctant to their duties as providers.its confusing somehow🤔
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Amen! Thank you so much!
@faithwachu5073 Жыл бұрын
That was wisdom, respecting both cultures and meeting in the middle instead of creating conflict ❤. Wishing you a beautiful marriage
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
@graceskalyn8708 Жыл бұрын
I come from the western part of Uganda,we HV wat we call okugaba obugyenyi(first visit)in this first visit he comes wiz a few members esp men to ask the gals family to give their daughter for marriage on the same day that's wen thy negotiate about the dowry en the date thy will come back to bring it wc we refer as kuhingira(introduction) ,on this day that's wen de gal shows other family members en friends her husband to be,all in all it's the men who pay dowry,then on the wedding day that wen the gals parents gift her home equipments if I can say e.g bed mattress, utensils,land title if thy a rich etc 😂for starting a family en that's wat I think ur husband culture refer as board goods ,so long I wish KZread gives us a voice option too ,much love en support from Uganda ❤
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for educating us on your culture 😍
@maryjumachannel Жыл бұрын
liz bro wa uyu ako wapi???,,, the way anakuexplain weeeeh
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
🥺melted my heart
@graceviola2799 ай бұрын
Hohoho,woohoo,I pray to mine doesn't refuse.
@janek6843 Жыл бұрын
Liz girl, I love you, but it's not about how educated a girl is that shows how valuable a girl is to the husband matters dowry, a woman's value is so diverse and can't be pegged on education and that's why a man will choose a less educated woman over the other
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
🙏🏽❤️❤️
@MamaTEL
Жыл бұрын
It's true the more a lady is educated the more dowry you pay, and the less educated a woman is the less the dowry..Highly educated men go for highly educated women.. because they meet maybe in college or at work..it's very unlikely for highly educated man to marry a less educated woman
@janehoe6681
Жыл бұрын
In America which is the west we don’t pay dowry. Never heard of. Only in Africa. The man takes care of his wife.
@gloriabowie5629
Жыл бұрын
@@janehoe6681 Amen
@winnykerubo254 Жыл бұрын
we sema kuandika kwa karatasi kizungu haitaki mchezo.mkianza kuclash hivi woiii chesoo
@eleainehurd7763
Жыл бұрын
I'M from Jamaica living in England we don't have downy both parties contribute to the wedding
@weziweandrade6261 Жыл бұрын
In my culture as South African (Xhosa culture) The family of the groom is the one that pays the bride’s price and then after the bride’s price has been payed, the family of the bride buys gifts (furniture for the bride and the groom) for the groom’s family (blankets and groceries)
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Very fair😍
@newlifenow4717 Жыл бұрын
As Christians we forsake our cultures and go with what the bible says and build your life's on it. Then move forward...🙏
@Browniecarole254 Жыл бұрын
The intro is dope love love it 😍
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Hun 💕💕
@Browniecarole254
Жыл бұрын
@@liz_atti shika simu wewe
@lifenuggets6051 Жыл бұрын
Where did you meet?
@euniceolawoyin1041 Жыл бұрын
Yes like Liz explained dowry is paid by the groom to be family and this biblical too,when Abraham's servant was going to find wife for Isaac his master gave him gold ornaments and clothing,to be given to Rebecca's family and Rebecca too after agreeing to go with the servant to marry Isaac. Liz and Atti are so understanding of each other's culture respect each other's feelings, Atti's a great husband, who said his wife's worth can't be quantified,may God bless your union and bond you more divinely with eternity in view 🙏 ❤❤💙💙🤍🤍🌹🌹💜💜🔥🔥🙏.
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this beautiful comment ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@mariambonge4842 ай бұрын
🎉From Namibia 🇳🇦 you can pay every thing for your bride is a must
@aliceoloo1264 Жыл бұрын
Have never had of a lady paying dowry my God
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
🤭 also in India its like that
@gracegifty6845 Жыл бұрын
😂 mine the man will be told to pay cows. In the northern part of Ghana 🇬🇭
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
🤣 a herd of cows
@christinamartinez95886 ай бұрын
When my husband and I got married, he and I paid for our wedding. I am from the United States, but I have friends from other countries who have also paid for their weddings. I think that since we are in more modern days, even with foreign countries, the bride and groom should mostly pays for their wedding.
@ememakpan8639 Жыл бұрын
In my country Nigeria, he is the Groom that pay's his Bride dowry not the Bride's family or the bride, Atti you have to do what is Right for your wife, if you Truly love her, because is a Tradition in most African Country.
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@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
❤
@fin-rb3yz
Жыл бұрын
Your husband is VERY scary....make sure you keep tabs on him...make sure he is not a serial killer or child molester....
@milcahkabiru2818
Жыл бұрын
@@attilacsipkes4210 ❤❤ XXXL
For Africans, dowry is very important..if you’re dating someone from a different race, you just have to explain why it’s important and come to an agreement ❤
@kaninamargaret8025
Жыл бұрын
NOT TO ALL FAMILY
@sonialewis321
Жыл бұрын
It depends my dear
@kaninamargaret8025
Жыл бұрын
@@sonialewis321 THAT’S WAY!!! THE WHITE PEOPLE THEY DON’T HAVE THIS CULTURE. AM BEST A MAN FROM YOUR CULTURE!!
@gloriabowie5629
Жыл бұрын
When couples are starting off, they need all the money they can get, in America the father of the bride pays for the wedding, if parents can’t afford it they pay for the wedding themselves, the man takes care of the woman so no money is needed to be given to the parents.
@kaninamargaret8025
Жыл бұрын
@@gloriabowie5629 EXACTLY
I am American, and my fiancée is Ugandan. I had no problem with paying the bride price. What confused me was how much to offer her father. The only advice my fiancée could offer was "it comes from your heart". OK but still I need to know some average figure. US$500? US$5000? How much??? After much internet research, I finally found that the average bride price is 10M Ugandan shillings (about US$2700). This was offered, and accepted, plus various farm animals and a satellite TV set.
@simplelifestyl9021
Жыл бұрын
Wow
@nabbumbadoreen8649
Жыл бұрын
U paid that because u could afford it but in Uganda u give any thing u have in terms of money but the main issue coz some even ask for the Bible or QURAN and that is for the father only but the cattles are also a must for serving the community and then the TV and others for the mother to share with her friends
@julietlubega9492
Жыл бұрын
@@nabbumbadoreen8649 but not all Ugandan tribes do dowry and you should know that
@majestymaurice3239
Жыл бұрын
I'm Ugandan but I'm not gonna comment anything on this, this dowry thing depends on the family you're marrying into. It's not fixed by culture or tradition. Yes,it's respectable if bride price is paid, but "how much" varies from family to family. Period
@ladyjuiceykitchen8096
Жыл бұрын
I only know Indian whom the woman pay
It is biblical.. He who finds a wife, finds a treasure.. there are no wirthless treasures.. Men, pay your bride price❤
@lifewithveronicah
Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t work like that
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
With the biggest respect dear Monica. Isaac were staying 14 years with his father-in-law for the younger daughter, and another 6 years for the brought goods. The father didnt want his daughter to leave, after he loved Isaac and he didnt want him to leave either, thats why he set up strict rules. If you want to take an example from the Bible, this is amongst the most popular ``stories`` and it contains both cultures. Man-made culture. Not God-made. Apart from the story, yes i treasure my Wife, like i said Her value cannot be measured in worldly materials. Thank you for your comment, God bless you.
@tuforu4
Жыл бұрын
You GENIUS I BET AND WELL TRAVELLED
Atti it's not buying a lady but giving a token to her parents for appreciation
In my country Jamaica 🇯🇲 we do not have a Dowry process we take care of the wedding and family can help but the man takes care of the family. Now that both parties are in the working world the man is still the dominant supporter and the woman helps however even that is shifting as the women are more prevalent in the workforce
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
From my country BOTSWANA🇧🇼 its the same as KENYA, the groom pays dowry to my parents as appreciation
In africa if you didnt pay bride price they think its a disrespect to your inlaws .its a part of appreciation to your inlaws.thats our culture as africans.if you didnt that women will never be happy in her entenal life😢😢
Am also shocked because in my country Uganda is the Man who needs to pay the dowry for a woman thanking the parents of being raised her because if a woman pays the dowry it shows that she is the one who marries a Man
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. God bless you.
Good insight! In Africa if you don't provide dowry the family of the gal will never attach value to you the man (,bridegroom) taking their daughter. Embrace that if you need your wife not to feel out of place whenever she's among her own people and for you as a man to be respected in her family. There is no debate on this or else she'll always be considered as one who went through the ventilator instead of rightly walking through the front door into the man's house. That's said, it was nice you both came to an agreement and are now happily married, congratulations!!
Hey Liz, thanks for sharing yes in Kenya that’s what many cultures do.
Such an educational topic....I love it because all people need to learn and respect other people's culture. I am from an island in the Caribbean and we don't have dowry but the women's parents are expected to pay for the wedding process such as the dress, the food, the presentation for the party and the man is expected to provide and safeguard his wife and future family. I think it's wonderful when both parties are from 2 different cultures it's a great learning experience .In my eyes you both are the best youtube couple dowry or no dowry you will always have my vote on whatever decision you make 👍🏾 Liz and Atti you are the best....lots of Love for both of you from Bronx, NY
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and supporting us! It is good to learn that not every African countries are the same in the dowry question.
@jenniferakali8408
Жыл бұрын
@@attilacsipkes4210 I know more of bride price than dowry.
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 💕💕💕
@serahwairimu4699
Жыл бұрын
I have always desired to date a white guy but can't imagine my family paying the dowry whereas in Kenya it's the man who is supposed to pay dowry
@beatricekasudi4743
Жыл бұрын
@@serahwairimu4699 hahaha mbavu zangu
Atti & Liz, Blessings to both I am from Panama🇵🇦 Central and South America. We don’t have dowry in my country but the bride parents are responsible for all the wedding expenses. ❤️🙏🏾🇵🇦
Very educational to many of us I must admit. You guys are just blessed to be together because of you'll beautiful souls and that's my take. Love you guys❤❤❤
Atti please follow kenyan culture pay dowry to my sister don't ignore
My husband is white, from Ireland, he is Irish but he paid dowry, m from South Africa, we call it lobola, is all about uniting the two families and follow the culture, Attie needs to understand the culture differences
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
As Atti needs to understand my culture, its fair that we also understand his❤️all cultures are equally important, we cant dismiss another person's culture just cos we feel ours is the right one, thats why both sides need to find a mutual fair solution ❤️😍😍😍
@Light_Of_God_
Жыл бұрын
@@liz_atti exactly, I just love you both, God bless you always
It's a way of appreciation and respect to the family of the gal
Am a Kenyan married to an American,my kikuyu tradition there’s no exact figure,you can give what you have it’s just appreciating and getting blessings from the parents
@esternakisa4963
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
😍❤️
@duniainamambotv.worldhasissues
Жыл бұрын
U cheating people here tell truth
@tuforu4
Жыл бұрын
KIKUYU are SCAREY DANGER.
@janewajenefa
8 ай бұрын
That's a lie!
In Nigeria, the husband pays the dowry and also takes responsibility for wedding preparations and also buys clothes and shoes for the bride
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Helen.
@twesigyerosemaryblessings6342
Жыл бұрын
Oh yes Helen , the same from my country RWANDA 🇷🇼🇷🇼!
@fin-rb3yz
Жыл бұрын
thats why i love nigeria....you dont tolerate nonsense....
@marywaithira6428
Жыл бұрын
Same to my tribe here in Kenya
@shalonshantel9525
Жыл бұрын
It's the same as in Uganda 🇺🇬
Nakuelewa vizuri sana Lizz
Atti good for you because now I think other cultures shouldn't always expect others to follow their culture but not yours, maybe after seeing your video they won't just accept without meeting each other half way. I'm originally from Caribbean, Jamaica, now in the UK, and our culture is the brides parents and bride who plan and pay for the wedding.
@gloriabowie5629
Жыл бұрын
Amen, it’s 2023
Liz and Atti I love you both and I pray Almighty God will bless and strengthen your bond for life...
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Amen🙏🏽🙏🏽
Yes, in Kenya it involves a lot including, education, age, purity. If the girl is more educated it’s more dowry the man pays, as well as if the girl is a virgin and never been married before it’s more dowry for the man to pay. It’s also more dowry if the bride is getting married with no children out of wedlock. Traditionally it’s also considered how well a girl could cook. The man is the one who pays for dowry and most of the wedding expenses, but sometimes both sides of the family form wedding committees between friends and family to help raise funds for the wedding . A man who do not pay dowry in some communities is sometimes disrespected, not considered man enough and May sometimes not even allowed to bury the wife incase she dies. Sometimes the man may not be fully considered as married if no dowry is paid and sometimes the parents of the girl can decide to stop the wedding when the buns are read in church due to lack of dowry payment. In most African communities Dowry is considered to strengthen the relationship between both families and an appreciation to the girl’s parents for raising a wife to the man, coz they consider the wife will be taking care of the man, cook for him, bear children and be a support to the man. To earn your respect as a man, getting married to an African woman, better pay that dowry😂 traditionally paid in cows, goats, gifts.
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
I love love how you explained in depth 😍 thank you so much for taking time to educate us..lots of love🥰🥰🥰
Am a South African, Ndebele culture. Same as Liz, but when coming to wedding, we value our traditional wedding, where groom has to marry a bride according to our custom slaughtering of cows done at bride home, exchanging cows and using cows bladder to unites our ancestors of both families. White wedding can follow just to celebrate with friends but traditionally wedding is very important to our culture and exchanging of gifts (umembeso) in our language
This was a very nice and important topic because most people don't actually know the essence of dowry payment. Most people think that it's a way of buying the other person, which is actually not that. I loved listening to both of your reactions
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much❤️❤️
Love the discussion and the information given re the culture difference between the two countries
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
It is interesting indeed.
Nice topic , happy everything is well . God blessings n love to you guys
Liz you are very right that is African culture even in Nigeria
From my country RWANDA 🇷🇼, before your wedding , you first go to the girl parent to pay Dowry, then after you go for wedding!!!
Glad you guys worked it out. Love conquers all
Honestly Atti. Every word you speak is with so much Humility. You make me fall in love again in full swing. May the good Lord God be with you always.you just said she is worth so much wow wow
Thanks for the good topic coz we need to learn more about different cultures,for us in Uganda,men are the ones supposed to pay dowry not women
May God make it easy for both of you 🙏 love you guys. I can't miss out on good content from u
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
God bless you.
Great and insightful topic Liz and Attie. Love you guys. In Zimbabwe the guy pays bride pride - cash and cows. The bride prize is not a once off payment though.
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much
Thank you for sharing. This topic is important for everyone to know about multi cultural marriage.💕
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
💕💕
Beautiful couple 💞 May God give both families the understanding to successfull complete the dowry process I had also a white man and this dowry negotiation with him was not good Thanks Atti and Liz for bringing this topic
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
🙏🏿❤️❤️ i hope you both find mutual understanding 😍
What a lesson, thank you for sharing Liz Culture . I'm also going to change the girl to take my son will have to give me cows Liz😁. Thank you Liz and Otti for sharing it's a very good lesson to learn thank you. Love you lots beautiful.
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
I also want cows for our future daughters lol🤣
Good topic my darling.If m not mistaken almost all the African countries the part of paying the dowry is everywhere and important to our parents.Its a sign of thanking them for raising us haaibo mukhuwa
Woooow I love the narration... At the beginning... Good job mummy
@rosemuema3850
Жыл бұрын
Malika is here👏👏
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Beautiful ❤️❤️
In Ghana , is the man who pays dowry. And the bride and her family provides necessary things for the ceremony. The bridegroom can also help the bride for necessary things they may need. This was how I did mine in 25 years ago🙏🏽
Thank you for bringing up this important topic , Ati explained it so well, Gracias! Yes many western from countries find "dowry payment" shocking. Some even say it's a costly process to marry an African woman but I love what Ati said, " It's a token of Appreciation, her value can't be measured ..... It's vital that we make them understand
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Very true
may God give you both strength 🎉to understand those things
I'm from Tanzania 🇹🇿, in swahili we call MAHARI is a man supposed to pay to the woman family. All the best
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Thank you😍
In my culture,the bride family, pay for the wedding. I'm from USA 🇺🇸. Love the video,learning about the culture.
In Nigeria the man pays the dowry as appreciation to the lady’s family for raising their daughter well, and to show he can take good care of her in his home.
Wow this is quite educative.... culture integration is beautiful...
🤔🤔hmmm 🤔🤔maybe when you blend cultures compromising has to come into play🤷🏽♀️hard to follow both sides🤷🏽♀️ deciding as a couple what you will follow and not follow in your home🤦🏽♀️**exactly Atti>finding a mutual way!
Lizzi im from Zimbabwe yes the man is the one to pay my Dwory to my family❤
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
We are Zimbabweans too 😃❤☮
@thandocmabena9317
Жыл бұрын
Oh wow nice
@alicebowen1018
Жыл бұрын
Yes in my family this is true
@ethelsibanda
Жыл бұрын
I love you my fellow Zimbabweans
I think that DOWRY is CRAZY and i DONT believe in it coz its like buying someone.I have never had one and i never want one,although im married to a sweddish man.Ofcoz me and him have assisted my Kenyan family alot financially with building nice homes,buying cars, opening diff.bussinesses for them BUT i said capital NO to DOWARY discussions!
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting point of view from a kenyan, thank you for sharing,God bless you.
@nck2310
Жыл бұрын
@@attilacsipkes4210 Thanks.
@lucywanjikumandziuk1611
Жыл бұрын
I'm married to a German and they don't know dowry and I tried to explain to him he got so mad that my family want to sell to him a lady so I didn't pay but we have also done alot for my family
@lucywanjikumandziuk1611
Жыл бұрын
There is no dowry in Europe. I'm married in Germany n my daughter in Netherlands n there is no dowry at all but I'm planning to pay my own dowry to my family
@jackiechebet1661
Жыл бұрын
This is my school of thought too
Yeah, I agree with both of you since I’m in one. But good thing is in the end there’ll be compromise ❤
@katushabeallen9581
Жыл бұрын
Sheryl please i need a white man
@liz_atti
Жыл бұрын
Very true ❤️
Hey Liz would you mind sharing products you use for your face .... please you can do even tutorial for me please....
Both of you are beautiful people. My daughter is American and married a Brazilian man. There was no expectation of a dowry on either side. May God bless your marriage.
@attilacsipkes4210
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing, God bless you.
@katelynnhopkins9309
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@@attilacsipkes4210 ♥️♥️♥️
But not all Europeans do that since my younger son sister got married in 2010, in Eldoret town since they met each other in the town. It's the family from Australia who paid the dowry.
Thank you for bringing up this important information. Dowry is normally a clash even in our own country(between our own communities) would speak about Kenya coz am Kenyan but negotiating and understanding each other's culture Makes it's easier and amgla that you passed this
@normalynmasters9659
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Love this topic I am from Jamaica living in the United States watch you guys but never comment but this one Everyone should pay attention and listen in Jamaica too partner come both sides together give preparation gifts both mother father family's friends let me say love you have for each other and and the life you all live in the community and in the world and remember put God first you can't go wrong pray blessing on you both love
@rizzieangote36
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@@normalynmasters9659 wow good information right there
Thank goodness that’s not the case in my side of world !! Uk , Caribbean, America!! Imagine in this hard times having to pay the family to get married !! Wow !! It’s the husband and wife pays for everything 😅 probably of you have a rich father in law or father he’ll probably give some money !! 🇹🇹🏴
Wow ❤You are blessed Liz and Atti,I understand how it can be devastating,that was our case but my hubby had to understand and paid dowry because that is our culture.Anyways all the best good people ❤
@liz_atti
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😍😍😍
Well explained . Very inspiring to all intending to go interracial marriage.
@liz_atti
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My culture is similar as Liz it's not about selling but makingva relationships to both families. Paying a dowry basically thanking bride family for raising a beautiful daughter and appreciation the beauty, Am a South African Ndebele culture, inbour culture when you marry a bride they are protocol to be followed by groom family since they are the ones who saw a beautiful flower. For examples changing gift (umembeso) where both families slaughter cows same day and exchange half of the cow to each family and both bride and groom binds by cows gall bladder that we called traditionally wedding and its the best Ndebele wedding, white wedding can follow just to celebrate with friends. Love my culture very much
In Uganda its different my dear whether educated or not dowry depends on a man's potential if he has a lot of money he can pay everything he can 😅
@duniainamambotv.worldhasissues
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Same with Luo
We respect our cultures but dowry will never be enough or you cant equit it with the worth of an individual. It has become like a point of exhortation by some families especially relatives 😅😅. IN SHORT IT SHOULD BE A FORM OF APPRECIATION!
@attilacsipkes4210
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Thank you for your opinion, God bless you.
Even me here am having issues with my man about dowry. He is American. I wish u guys a happy future and many children
Very informative. I agree it is a topic of much importance between multicultural couples. Being from the Caribbean, and as far as I know (please don't come get me if I am wrong, just saying what I know of), the wife's family is responsible for her and all things related to the wedding. From that day forward, the man "takes over" the support and care of the woman. Nowadays, most couples are both working, maybe even living on their own, some get married much later even, and parents (guardians) may not be around. Adult children move away from home to another country and settle there. In these cases the couple may set up their own funds to have their wedding (again, this is how I know and understand it, not negating the fact that other cultural differences exist). I have heard of dowry but never knew the process. As much as Atti didn't get into details as such, it was still clearer how that goes. I think it lovely either way, just respect as you both keep saying, and knowing before hand to avoid the shock and possible interpretation form the other party that you are in disagreement or even dispise their culture. So happy to see you all, esp Atti who has been missing in action for some time. ❤🇹🇹❤️
@liz_atti
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Thank you so much for sharing your culture with us❤️❤️
In Interracial marriages compromise has to be found in the cultural practices Meet in the middle
@attilacsipkes4210
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Totally agree on that. God bless you.
To solve the problems let both families come together and pay, he has is culture he believes in & you have you culture you believe in just saying.
@liz_atti
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They came to a fair agreement 😍
I can say Dowry is very important for the African culture and yes you should also go with there culture mummy....I love the fact that you all positive about it❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@liz_atti
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Thank you hun❤️❤️
You are correct I'm from Jamaica parents of the bride paided and you work as a team 😮😊
Not buying please, is more respect from family.
In my culture after the groom pay lobola, the bride family must buy presents and bedroom suit for a bride and cutlery, dishes,blankets to their daughter and grooms family but you give gift in your wedding day to the grooms family .I love u guys frm south Africa 🇿🇦 ❤ ♥
@attilacsipkes4210
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So your culture includes both? Wow, thanks for sharing. God bless you.
@lifegood8665
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It's like our culture
First to comment yaaay!! Lots of love from Ghana🇬🇭to you two💯❤❤❤
@attilacsipkes4210
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God bless you our sister!
@liz_atti
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Lots of love ❤️
Waow this very educative Lizz n Atti. I love you so much ❣️🥰. Looking forward to next video
@liz_atti
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Love you Princess 🥺❤️
In South Africa Zulu's and Swazi's a groom pays dowry ( lobola) to the bride's family.When they are married they are supposed to work and maintain their family ( kids) both of them.
More advice from lev,lucy natasha his husband papa camel from India also the girl supposed to pay dowry, also from kikuyu culture the man is tha one supposed to pay dowry, more advice from them
It shall be well dear trust God he knows the process 🙏
@attilacsipkes4210
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Amen! God bless you!
I am so blessed that I live in the USA. My husband and I pay for our wedding. Didn't need our parents to do it.
I strongly suggest that Atti should pick up some overtime shifts and come up with about $2,500 to $3,000 and take it to Liz's family. It won't hurt you nor diminish you. Some of these things have mystical power in them. Though you claim that you all came to a compromise, I'm 100% sure that there are significant people in Liz's family who are unhappy with the purported deal that you all made. When you love your wife be ready to go above and beyond to do such things for her. It won't change you brother man. In this same culture sometimes the woman earns way more than the man but the man must respect the culture. I have witnessed a case where the couple faced a misfortune, a very severe mishap.
There is no dowry in the western world or in the Caribbean, but the wife's family usually with the help of other friends and loved ones come together to do the wedding and to help to take care of all the important things pertaining to the wedding and the bridal shower and gifts that the bride and groom will need after they move into their home. Sometimes at home can be bought for them or they just rent an apartment or by an apartment but it's furnished partially with gifts that are given to the couple that they would need from friends and family and loved ones, like are fryer, blender mixer bedsheets bed-in-a-bag sets sent this household things, even furniture it depends on what one wants to give them as a gift to speed them on their journey in marriage. And the men can also help with the expenses or even shoulder the expenses if he wants to but when they come together as a couple to plan the wedding they make the decisions as to what they want to do and how much they want to spend and it's between the man and the woman to be married and then they get the family involved. I can understand the situation if an American or Westerner is marrying someone from Africa then they might get the dowry involved, but I believe that African culture should stick to Africa, and if you're marrying in the western world and you don't have to do Dowry. I have African friends from different parts of Africa that got married in the US and didn't do Dowry because it's not an American thing.
@liz_atti
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Thanks for the insight🙏🏿❤️ yes both need to find a common ground favourable for them❤️
Hapa America hakuna hata Hiyo dowry thing wazungu wa huku hawatambui hiyo
@gracewehrle6813
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Mimi niliambiwa nisitanje hiyo kitu 😢😅
@liz_atti
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🤣
Am also shocked with the Hungarian culture,😮😮😮
@liserorose4713
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Good to see you Anne and Johannesen here.
Oh my God mm sijai ona kamahiyo
I am a Jamaican it the womans family who finance the wedding not the man
@attilacsipkes4210
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Thank you for sharing Caribbean traditions.God bless you.
This is Africa ways for the man to provide for his new wife to be and it's man taking a responsibility to provide for the girl in order for Atti to get married
Hi baby girl nice to meet you am always following you am from Uganda. I may like to ask did vist Uganda cause it like I saw you at busowookofalls with your friends 😊
We don't have pay dowry in Europe. I think it hapens only in Africa. In Portugal we don't have to pay dowry to the brides parents.
I really don't think being interracial has anything to do with dowry. In America, traditionally, the bride's family pays for the wedding. I think dowry exist in American culture. You guys are an awesome couple. This is the first step to working things out in your relationship. God bless you. I pray for the day you can live together as husband and wife.
@shirublessed1024
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Don't say its not a big issue for sure it is.I think if an African man marries a white woman then the brides family pay the dowry then its posible for our African men to think that they were married by the bride instead of them marrying the bride and I think may be they will not take marriage serious and will be reluctant to their duties as providers.its confusing somehow🤔
@liz_atti
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Amen! Thank you so much!
That was wisdom, respecting both cultures and meeting in the middle instead of creating conflict ❤. Wishing you a beautiful marriage
@liz_atti
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Thank you so much
I come from the western part of Uganda,we HV wat we call okugaba obugyenyi(first visit)in this first visit he comes wiz a few members esp men to ask the gals family to give their daughter for marriage on the same day that's wen thy negotiate about the dowry en the date thy will come back to bring it wc we refer as kuhingira(introduction) ,on this day that's wen de gal shows other family members en friends her husband to be,all in all it's the men who pay dowry,then on the wedding day that wen the gals parents gift her home equipments if I can say e.g bed mattress, utensils,land title if thy a rich etc 😂for starting a family en that's wat I think ur husband culture refer as board goods ,so long I wish KZread gives us a voice option too ,much love en support from Uganda ❤
@liz_atti
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Thank you so much for educating us on your culture 😍
liz bro wa uyu ako wapi???,,, the way anakuexplain weeeeh
@liz_atti
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🥺melted my heart
Hohoho,woohoo,I pray to mine doesn't refuse.
Liz girl, I love you, but it's not about how educated a girl is that shows how valuable a girl is to the husband matters dowry, a woman's value is so diverse and can't be pegged on education and that's why a man will choose a less educated woman over the other
@liz_atti
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🙏🏽❤️❤️
@MamaTEL
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It's true the more a lady is educated the more dowry you pay, and the less educated a woman is the less the dowry..Highly educated men go for highly educated women.. because they meet maybe in college or at work..it's very unlikely for highly educated man to marry a less educated woman
@janehoe6681
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In America which is the west we don’t pay dowry. Never heard of. Only in Africa. The man takes care of his wife.
@gloriabowie5629
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@@janehoe6681 Amen
we sema kuandika kwa karatasi kizungu haitaki mchezo.mkianza kuclash hivi woiii chesoo
@eleainehurd7763
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I'M from Jamaica living in England we don't have downy both parties contribute to the wedding
In my culture as South African (Xhosa culture) The family of the groom is the one that pays the bride’s price and then after the bride’s price has been payed, the family of the bride buys gifts (furniture for the bride and the groom) for the groom’s family (blankets and groceries)
@liz_atti
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Very fair😍
As Christians we forsake our cultures and go with what the bible says and build your life's on it. Then move forward...🙏
The intro is dope love love it 😍
@liz_atti
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Thank you Hun 💕💕
@Browniecarole254
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@@liz_atti shika simu wewe
Where did you meet?
Yes like Liz explained dowry is paid by the groom to be family and this biblical too,when Abraham's servant was going to find wife for Isaac his master gave him gold ornaments and clothing,to be given to Rebecca's family and Rebecca too after agreeing to go with the servant to marry Isaac. Liz and Atti are so understanding of each other's culture respect each other's feelings, Atti's a great husband, who said his wife's worth can't be quantified,may God bless your union and bond you more divinely with eternity in view 🙏 ❤❤💙💙🤍🤍🌹🌹💜💜🔥🔥🙏.
@liz_atti
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Thank you so much for this beautiful comment ❤️❤️❤️❤️
🎉From Namibia 🇳🇦 you can pay every thing for your bride is a must
Have never had of a lady paying dowry my God
@liz_atti
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🤭 also in India its like that
😂 mine the man will be told to pay cows. In the northern part of Ghana 🇬🇭
@liz_atti
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🤣 a herd of cows
When my husband and I got married, he and I paid for our wedding. I am from the United States, but I have friends from other countries who have also paid for their weddings. I think that since we are in more modern days, even with foreign countries, the bride and groom should mostly pays for their wedding.
In my country Nigeria, he is the Groom that pay's his Bride dowry not the Bride's family or the bride, Atti you have to do what is Right for your wife, if you Truly love her, because is a Tradition in most African Country.
@liz_atti
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