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Ill Tell you Exactly who got it right. Jesus Christ
@saenzperspectives
Ай бұрын
Which one? “I wish that you would bear with me in a little foolishness; but indeed you are bearing with me. For I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy; for I betrothed you to one husband, so that to Christ I might present you as a pure virgin. But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully… …For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds.” 2 Corinthians 11:1-4, 13-15 Mark 13:22, Galatians 1:8-9
@RAY_FILET
Ай бұрын
@@saenzperspectives You spiritual detective, you♥️ seems like you're onto something. Can't say exactly what that is, but yeah🤔
@lightningbolt4203
Ай бұрын
@@saenzperspectivesI’m confused as to what your trying to say
@ZootOfficial
Ай бұрын
@@lightningbolt4203 there could be one truth, simple as
@marchelomanchev5317
Ай бұрын
@@lightningbolt4203basically you all over 30k protestant dominations believe in your own jesus and depict him as a hippie and not thw actual jesus which is the orthodox jesus
It's not the church, it's CHRIST.
@cruznature7545
25 күн бұрын
The Church is the expression of Christ. The problem is Jesus meant for the Church to be one and man has divided it up into different interpretations of it, this is not what Jesus intended.
@optimatus
25 күн бұрын
@@cruznature7545 John 3:16
@adenjones1802
15 күн бұрын
@@cruznature7545He certaily didnt intend icon veneration either.
@melroycorrea7720
10 күн бұрын
The Church is the Body of Christ
@adenjones1802
10 күн бұрын
@@melroycorrea7720 is the body subserviant to the spirit?
There’s a joke A priest and taxi driver reach the gates of heaven and are greeted by Peter Peter says welcome good and faithful servant let me show you to yo ur inheritance Peter takes the taxi driver up a hill to a big mansion The priest gets excited Kos if the driver got that then he shall get a huge reward Peter then takes the priest into the wet mouldy valley to a run down leaking shack Peter says this is your inheritance The priest perplexed as he believes he deserves more as he has been a faithful servant all his life. He begins to question why he didn’t get something more To which Peter replies ‘when you spoke in church people fell asleep, when the taxi driver drove people prayed’
@brandonedwards1181
Ай бұрын
My friend what a wonderful joke. Peace be with you my friend
The Church cannot live without the people, and only the Orthodox churches are full of people every week. In Greece, Russia, Serbia, Georgia, Romania, Armenia. Look at the liturgies as they are, originally served. Only in Orthodoxy do you have that the entire Athos peninsula is in Greece is purely monastic, with 20 main monasteries, and over 100 skites and smaller monasteries, with a large number of monks living in caves. Such dedication to God does not exist anywhere.
@katydidd6321
Ай бұрын
Traditional Catholic churches are filled to capacity with large families. If the Pope and our bishop leaves us alone, mine will be standing room only in a year from now (actually it already is on feast days). Trad Catholic seminaries are also full to capacity with waiting lists to get in. Monastaries and Convents too. EO certainly doesn't hold a monopoly on dedication to God, lol. What? 😆
@jimbooi1
Ай бұрын
These are all National or Ethnic movements. None of them can call themselves Universal & for all humanity
@EasternChristian333
Ай бұрын
Funny to see an Orthodox appear to a fallacious argument built on numbers. "Look at the Orthodox numbers of faithful in churches and monasteries. This is why we are the true church". Yet Catholicism spanks Orthodoxy on numbers across the board. We are bigger, have more people in our parishes, are growing at a faster rate across the world, etc. But "we" don't treat that as an argument. If numbers were the deciding factor we will all have to become Muslim in about 50 years.
@ionitamc5149
Ай бұрын
I live in Romania and what You Say is a lie
@Mnm1386
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂 what a joke
Our Lord JesusChrist founded a church in Peter and the apostles and it is guided by the Holy Spirit. This Church is: The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, which it is lead by the vicar of Christ on Earth, the Bishop of Rome aka as the Pope. Who currently is Pope Francis. The 266 vicar of Christ. Vivat Christus Rex! Long Live Christ the King! Viva Cristo Rey!
@joffryvangrondelle
Ай бұрын
That sounds rather one-sided...
@kardz1848
Ай бұрын
How many "vicars of christ" were having orgies back in the day?
@arnboldrebalbos9650
24 күн бұрын
PRAISE BE TO GOD LORD JESUS
@arnboldrebalbos9650
24 күн бұрын
HAIL HOLY QUEEN MOTHER OF GOD
@arnboldrebalbos9650
24 күн бұрын
HER IMMACULATE HEART WILL TRIUMPH
We can argue all day about who is the original church or we can unite as brothers and sisters in Christ and follow the teachings of our lord and savior Jesus Christ?! 🙏🏻✝️
@p.vanslooten5124
Ай бұрын
Finally someone said it. Amen!!
@andrewstaples7544
27 күн бұрын
And the old testament
Technically King Henry viii did not want a divorce. He wanted an annulment. The church only allows this if you marriage was invalid. He could have gotten a divorce however if he did that he would not be able to get married again.
@johnpolitis7929
Ай бұрын
@phillipjones2924 It was over Catherine being an accessory to the Buggery Act that he wanted a divorce as she objected to the seizure of monasteries where the monks committed buggery. Anne Boleyn was not the cause, but an afterthought.
@koontroll3364
Ай бұрын
he was a buffoon, the dude married 6 times
@johnpolitis7929
Ай бұрын
@@koontroll3364 No he was not a buffoon. He passed The Buggery Act in 1533 and was also warring against adultery and buggery. In 1885, the death penalty for buggery was abolished, but it was still a criminal offence. It was finally decriminalized after Brian Epstein's death in 1967. That was due to executing adulterous wives and others who were widowed. What did you expect?
is this whole video made by AI?
@user-darkodbd
Ай бұрын
Yes it is. There are tools for speech, video and speech to text.
@maxjk1143
Ай бұрын
@@user-darkodbd thats why it feels so soulless... thx now i can avoid this channel.
Can we all agree that the entire video is filled with a confused scattered approach, generalizations that render any conclusion null and void. The main take away is this is what we can expect as AI has increasing influence on humanity.
Forget the religion, take up your cross and follow Him❤
@dogcatmom5877
Ай бұрын
Jesus started a church so we could attend one. Very important. He wanted us to go to church. And at the same time, take up our cross and follow him. 🙏❤️
@brandonedwards1181
Ай бұрын
By doing that you make your own religion my friend
@DadoMac
Ай бұрын
That's the teachings of false prophets. No need for religion. 'Religion' from the Latin word 'religare' meaning, to bind again. Why bind again? See, the bible is composed of the New and Old Testament. Why testament? Because the bottom line of the scriptures is the covenant between God and His people. And that's where 'religion' is needed. It is the institution that keeps the bond and the covenant in place. You got fooled by the devil, because if you have no religion, you have no covenant with God. You're DOOMED!
@TheWayIcXc
Ай бұрын
Christ Identifies with his church. When Paul persecuted the church Christ does not say "why do you persecute the church" he says "why do you persecute ME"
@DadoMac
Ай бұрын
@@TheWayIcXc Bingo!
Correction: The 1620 Plymouth, MA pilgrims were not puritans. They were separatists, wanting to completely separate. The Massachusetts Bay 1630 Winthrop fleet were Puritans.
I spot lies from this video that Catholic church believed that the pope cannot make mistake when speaking in faith and morals. "The pope is not GOD therefore he does make mistake just like Saint Peter (Catholic believed)"
@genotriana3882
29 күн бұрын
Papal infallibility was a thing in the history of the church. I don’t know if they still believe in it now.
I've been all three. And ended with orthodox which is the true catholic church that's changed the least.
Romans 14, Titus 3:9, Tells us not to argue with other believers. Especially about little things. If your church is sound and follows Scripture, there is no need to argue. If you are saved by the blood of Christ and believe in His sacrifice for your sins, and give your life to Him, what is there to argue about? We are brothers and sisters under God. Fighting for what? Whose church looks the coolest? Whose church can have the most traditions? Whose church can prove it is from direct apostolic succession? What does it matter; we are one family through the sacrifice of our Savior.
@katydidd6321
Ай бұрын
Yeah, look, you'll never catch me attacking other Christians. I don't believe in that, and I don't think it solves any of our problems. Having said that, as a Catholic, I think Christians across the board should avail themselves of Sacred Tradition: 2000 years of writings by the saints, church fathers, popes, etc. After Sacred Scripture, it's the next best way we have to help us to a fuller understanding of the Faith. This is my personal invitation to my Protestant brethren (the Eastern Orthodox already do this) because I love you guys. Pax.
@maedenashagre4484
Ай бұрын
🙏
@simonslater9024
Ай бұрын
Please read my comment.
@simonslater9024
Ай бұрын
@@katydidd6321please read my comment.
@Billswiftgti
Ай бұрын
still claiming a human is infallible is big heressy.
If anyone can help me understand why does Protestant believe in faith only? Reason why I ask is because if you have faith don’t you perform the good works as well?
@joffryvangrondelle
Ай бұрын
Because Martin Luther and Jean Cauvin (John Calvin) said a human can only be saved by Christ and His Word. Soli Deo Gloria, Calvin wrote about Sola Scriptura, only the scripture, Sola Fide, only faith Sola Gratia, only by the grace of God through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
But as per the Church Fathers they called it Universal (Catholic ) Church and not the Orthodox Church
@user-th2hc3gf2d
Ай бұрын
And the true name of western church is papist(pope)church and for us One Holy Catholic and Apostoloc Church or you can just say orthodox(ot is the same)😊
@lesmen4
Ай бұрын
@@user-th2hc3gf2d Jesus > Peter > Pope (Patriarch of Rome) I trust this chain of linage.
@rustycrook1363
Ай бұрын
Both denominations used Catholic, because that had no denominational meaning till after the split and just meant universal as you said. Orthodox just means traditional teachings and they call themselves that after the split to sort of say they have the original teachings from the apostles onwards.
@joffryvangrondelle
Ай бұрын
@@user-th2hc3gf2d nope, the holy apostolic Catholic Church isn't per definition only Roman Catholic nor only Eastern Orthodox. catholic means 'in general''. Roman Catholic is the Rome version of Catholic Church but not the worldwide apostolic universal church.
@lysterbignay2378
27 күн бұрын
@@joffryvangrondelle Christ established His Church upon the Rock, the name He named to Simon as Peter. "Where Peter is, There is Christ's Church!"
This is a pretty decent attempt at an objective overview I think. It’s a place to start looking at the big picture, but a lot is left out, too.
💒🙏🇺🇸...hi..does anybody(Orthodox,Catholic or Protestant) have an opinion or indeed aware of the personal testimony of a woman named:Vassula Rydén ,who is Greek Orthodox? thx😊
The video doesn't answer who got it right, in spite of the title. The conclusion is just a bunch of non-statements, seemingly generated by the AI. But the answer is: the Catholic Church is that one true Church that Our Lord founded on St. Peter the rock.
@Dutelus
Ай бұрын
How do you not not see that orthodoxy is truth? It hasn't changed, ever.
@johnjr3634
Ай бұрын
Nope
@standev1
Ай бұрын
@@Dutelus what you call "orthodoxy" changed a lot. - renamed themselves from "the Catholic Church" to "Orthodox Church"; - ceased to hold that artificial contraception is immoral; - ceased to hold that marriage is indissoluble; - ceased to believe in Filioque; - ceased to believe in papal primacy; etc.
@kardz1848
Ай бұрын
@@standev1 nostra aetate completely destroys your heretical faith. You annoint yourself a fool who does not know his own faith... The roman catholic doctrine is called papal SUPREMACY. It is the Orthodox doctrine that is called papal primacy.
@standev1
Ай бұрын
@@kardz1848 1. Nostra Aetate is correct and orthodox. 2. You'll have to give account for insults against the Vicar of Christ on the day of judgment. 3. If you recognize the truthness of papal primacy, submit to the Pope.
The Orthodox Church is the true Church of Christ ☦️
@garryunang6644
13 күн бұрын
Orthodox, Catholic or Protestant is the same beleive stop saying which is true which is not. Jesus is neither Catholic nor Orthodox.
@garryunang6644
13 күн бұрын
Stop being fanatic man. Praise the Lord as it should be.
@MaximusAugustusOrthodox
12 күн бұрын
@@garryunang6644 pls stop lying. Jesus Christ and his apostles founded the Orthodox Church, pls follow Jesus and not your man made church!
@garryunang6644
12 күн бұрын
@@MaximusAugustusOrthodox Fanatisme at his finest.
@garryunang6644
12 күн бұрын
@@MaximusAugustusOrthodox The church is CHRIST NOT ORTHODOX OR CATHOLIC
This was a Compassionate & Nonjudgemental Explanation of the 3 main types of Christian thought. Which are: 1. Orthodox Christianity😢 2. Catholic Christianity 3. Protestantism As a. Catholic, I appreciate the explanation of the 3 types of Christian Spirituality. I have subscribed to your channel. Also I want to Thank You for your scholarly work. Thank you, & May God Bless you. May you do a video about the Trinity and the major Christian thoughts that believe in the Trinity & those who do not believe in the Trinity.
@Theology-Tube
29 күн бұрын
Keep an eye out for Tuesdays video, we will cover this topic :)
Catholic
Actually the differences are often bigger inside/STRAIGHT THROUGH DENOMNATIONS THAN BETWEEN THEM-between individual preachers. I am myself a deeply believing christian. I am formally a Lutheran, but I am active in different christan denominations. I choose on sundays after the invidual precacher more than after denomination. For example the Catholic vicar in our town actually preaches MORE LUTHERAN than some priests in my own formally Lutheran church. (Church of Sweden). I thiink that individual preachers in most christian denominations may have the Holy Spirit with them in sermon, while other prechers in the same denomination may not have. The denominations are far from homogenous. It can differ very much within the same denomination on the distance of only 2 tram-stops. I allways choose theologically conservative preachers (not politically but theologically) who preach the classic christian message. I think I can sometimes somewhat sense if the Holy Spirit is there or if it is not so. I think it´s important christians cooperate over denominational boundaries in todays world-where islam is predicted to be biggest religion in 2070-in 50 years from today (because of relatively high nativities.)
In my opinion, based on what I've come to know, the "true church" realistically only makes sense for it to be either Roman Catholicism or Eastern Orthodoxy, which is also what divides me. I say the Roman Catholic church because it's the largest Christian denomination, and they have the Pope. But I say Eastern Orthodoxy because, imo, their teachings make a lot more sense than some of that of Roman Catholicism. This uncertainty is a struggle.
@jimbooi1
Ай бұрын
From where comes the concept of Papal Authority. Answer that question.
@Unknown_Fool
Ай бұрын
Exactly what jimbooi1 said Papal Authority makes No sense. And the Orthodox keep the same teachings/worship that the Original Catholic Church did. Not to be confused with what people now know as the Roman Catholic Church. My man it's Definitely Eastern Orthodoxy. If you can go to a Divine Liturgy, Do It. And I recommend checking out "Orthodox Ethos" here on KZread. God Bless You, Christ is Always Near ❤️🔥
@admiralbob77
Ай бұрын
@@Unknown_Fool This is often claimed, but there's little truth to it. Most of the sources of western ecclesial thought (such as the rationalism of Augustine) predate the schism by many centuries. I think the Orthodox forget that it isn't just their churches mentioned in the bible - but our own as well (Rome.) Ours have grown over the centuries just as organically as theirs did. I think you guys forget we in the west didn't tear ourselves apart over iconoclasm. That was mostly you.
@johnpolitis7929
Ай бұрын
@@Unknown_Fool How about Old Catholicism instead.
@mtalk828
Ай бұрын
@@Unknown_Fool- 🤔Well in the first 500 years the Orthodox split in two: In Chalcedon and Non-Chalcedon. The Chalcedon consist of the Eastern Orthodox churches and the Non-Chalcedon consist of the Oriental Orthodox churches. The split occured during the Fourth Ecumenical Council, held in 451. So way before the 1054 split, you had the 451 split. Why do you choose Eastern Orthodoxy over Oriental Orthodox?
Catholic is orthodox but not Orthodox
2.5 billions Christian in the world: 1.4 billion Catholic,800 millions Protestant,250 millions Orthodox.
@josephtyhall4515
Ай бұрын
So the Orthodox Church was split from Catholic Church in 1054 AD !
@joannagrimeki7415
7 күн бұрын
@@josephtyhall4515 The roman-catholic church split from the original church!!!
Pope Francis has Reinstated the Papal Title ‘Patriarch of the West’ in Pontifical Yearbook The title was adopted in the year 642 by Pope Theodore and was used for centuries, though it was not until 1863, during the pontificate of Pope Pius IX, that the title first appeared in the Annuario Pontificio. In the 2024 edition of the “Annuario Pontificio,” or Pontifical Yearbook, released this week, Pope Francis reinstated the ancient, honorary pontifical title of “Patriarch of the West,” reversing Pope Benedict XVI’s 2006 decision to suspend the title.
You did not mention the Magisterium in the Roman Catholic Church
The sack of Constantinople during the fourth crusade was the final straw
I do not believe that Peter would change what was the Nicean- Konstantynopolitanian Creed Truth that was written in the Bible, that Holy Spirit has come from the Father (ontologically) not from the Father and the Son. There is one final Principal and this is of the Father and not of the Father and the Son, from whom Holy Spirit procedes. That why I do not believe that Roman Catholic Church can claim that she is carrying the orthodox faith of st Peter. Orthodox Church is doing this. You can see this in practical dogmas, that are proclaimed by both of those churches. Only one of them is carrying faith of apostles and unfortunately it is not Roman Catholic Church.
@dragonsandsuch
Ай бұрын
1. I've heard some EO theologians that have no problem with the concept that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son. Their problem was that the Catholic Church declared it to be true without the input of the EO Church. 2. Jesus says that He will return to the Father and will then send the Advocate (Holy Spirit).
@joannagrimeki7415
7 күн бұрын
@@dragonsandsuch Orthodox ,theologians, are not the Orthodox Church! The Church of Christ was allways against heresy. And Filioque is a heretic dogma. Dont spread false informations!
you are wrong, catholic and prthodx belonged to the same church prior to the great schism of 1054.
0:08 theological abstractions gives distactions to ones personal salvation.
It’s often when individuals call me brother my reply is , if your my brother who is our Mother. 💐
@nellyblancaflor5559
Ай бұрын
While dying on the Cross, Jesus said to John, the beloved disciple "Behold your Mother" meaning Mary, the Blessed Mother of Jesus. Mary is our spiritual mother. So we are all brothers and sisters in Christ.
Orthodox got it right
Totally not biased
2 Peter 1:20-21 knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation. For kno prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God las they were carried along by the Holy Spirit. Theres the 3 in the trinity: father son and holy spirit....3.....would i rather follow billions of people whos mind continually change or would i rather follow the scripture that never changes?
@marchelomanchev5317
Ай бұрын
Wrong, the church did not change jesus promised that he will stay with he church forever unto ages of ages and protect it, and the church gave you the scriptures which you said don't change but your hero martin luther changed it and took 7 books out of it for it to fit his interpritation, the fold churchfathers interpretations are much more important than your own because they learned directly from the apostles you did not. Its dunny how you say traditions of man and interpritations of man while without us you dont have things like the trinity and also very ironic how you folloe traditions of man, the reformers. that holy spirit claim can be said about everyone, a gnostic says he has the holy spirit, and says the God of the old tastament is evil, ask 100 protestants something they will give you 100 different answers, some will say lordship salvation, others will say cheap grace, free grace, hyper grace, universalism, liberal, progressive and so many more, the truth is that the holy spirit guided the church and without the church there is no salvation because salvation is in the church, yes you may have some things right but you do not have the fullness of truth which orthodoxy has
I vote Catholic Church got it right , Primacy of Peter makes sense to me ✌️
@botbat9645
Ай бұрын
None of them got it right lol just a bench of roman pagan believes plus greek philosophy and there you have it fresh christinty !!
@andys3035
Ай бұрын
Technically, the Eastern Orthodox agree in the Primacy in its intended meaning; that Peter is the first among equals and that the church was collegiate. Peter was not the one bishop of the entire church but the first among equals. As soon as Rome returns to the original apostolic model, the church can be one again.
to shortvideos - please read my comment. God bless
The only one who get's it right is Jesus Christ and the holy word of GOD himself ! !
I find it very frustrating when people, explaining the Protestant/Lutheran beliefs, primarily focus on the sola scriptura and sometimes sola fide There’s three more solas, which are very important in the Lutheran doctrine
There are >33000 denominations in Protestant church ! Which one do you believe ?
Please the Catholic many differences from Protestant churches. Mary Saints Priests Indulges Etc…
The Catholic Church and Orthodox churches are all inheritors of the original ecclesial institutions. Although they both exist as separate institutions today, it wasn't the establishment of a new institution that the RC came from. Rather increasing differences over the Filioque, papal authority, as well as arguments over where Latin and Byzantine rites could be used between bishops of the East and West. There was no one moment really (though the mutual excommunication is always seen as the marker), just a growing rift.
@andys3035
Ай бұрын
Agreed, and the papal bull was a severing between bishops and became much more as time passed. Most people didn't mark that day in 1054 and go, oh, we aren't one anymore. It took time.
The one who ditched all titles and simply followed the word of God is the one whos right.
@RoboticPh0enix
Ай бұрын
Jesus gave the orthodox and the Catholic church buddy
@HarryHafsak
Ай бұрын
@@RoboticPh0enixwhere can I find that in the Bible? Who is that harlot that controls the beast in revelation? How many kings have popes crowned? Which church spurred the denominations- or daughter harlots.
@RAY_FILET
Ай бұрын
@@RoboticPh0enix All I know and care about is that God gave His son, who in turn gave us His life...God also gave us choices. Idk anything about Catholic/orthodox "church buddies", and that's probably why I decided to seek God and not an institution. Best of luck, sir.
@RoboticPh0enix
Ай бұрын
@@RAY_FILET jesus literally gave peter the keys of the Catholic church, that is why he was the first pope
@johnpolitis7929
Ай бұрын
@@RoboticPh0enix But as first among equals, not universal jurisdiction.
God is universal. Catholic is Greek for universal. God is Catholic
@DUZCO10
Ай бұрын
@@botbat9645 apologies, I need to fix the comment
@botbat9645
Ай бұрын
@@DUZCO10 alright
The problem with making this a 3-way argument is that when you say Protestant, you're talking about thousands of denominations and hundreds of thousands of independent churches that are connected to nothing and have their own hodgepodge of beliefs. Within a couple years of the start of the Reformation, Protestants couldn't even agree on Christian essentials like the meaning of salvation, how one is saved, baptism and communion. There are even instances of warmongering and violence between Lutherans, Calvinists, the Anabaptists and followers of Zwingli. If you're going to try to say "they," got it right, you're going to need to be very specific.
@richardounjian9270
Ай бұрын
You are correct. Jesus prayed for oneness on the cross. There is no oneness in the prot world
"JESUS" was a Messenger of GOD, He preached the ONENESS of GOD. His Birth is nothing different from the creation of ADAM when GOD said be and so he was!
Orthodox all the way
@moz4350
Ай бұрын
Blud did not read the second commandment :)
@ZootOfficial
Ай бұрын
@@moz4350 >doesnt elaborate >leaves
@GeorgiosLeo
Ай бұрын
@@moz4350go sleep
@moz4350
Ай бұрын
@@GeorgiosLeo ?
@GeorgiosLeo
Ай бұрын
@@moz4350 can you explain what you wrote
Today's Protestants do NOT believe in the Holy Trinity, and therefore say that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are NOT God! Another thing that this video got wrong is that Infallibility does not mean free from sin, nor is it a special charism limited only to the Supreme Pontiff. Infallibility also belongs to the entire College of Bishops when they proclaim a teaching, in doctrinal unity with the Pope as Bishop of Rome, proclaim a teaching to be true (e.g. when gathered together in an ecumenical council). Infallibility refers to the theological concept that the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church is not only free from error, but also free from the possibility of error when clearly defining a matter of faith or morals. The implicit doctrine was first explained by the First Vatican Council in 1870:
@johncassidy6574
Ай бұрын
I'm a protestant. I believe in Holy Trinity.I believe Christ Jesus is God I believe Holy Spirit is God I believe The Holy Father (not any pope) is God.
@Ashursardan
Ай бұрын
I don’t comment much about Catholicism because I don’t know enough to speak with any authority. You, however, apparently know nothing about Protestantism but have spewed a ridiculous lie. Every “mainline” Protestant denomination believes in the doctrine of the Holy Trinity. We believe that God is three beings and that He is one. We believe that all three persons of the Trinity have always existed and that one is not greater or lesser than the others. Any church that does not espouse the doctrine of the Trinity is considered apostate by true Protestants. Cults such as Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Christian Science are NOT within the Protestant communion. “Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” You’d do well to remember that one if you claim to be a Christian.
@johncassidy6574
Ай бұрын
Thank you for an informative response response. I will spend more time trying to understand the wonderful mystery of God.
@annaclark6318
24 күн бұрын
I suggest you do homework before coming at the Protestants. I urge everyone to head over to redeemed zoomer for more information about the different denominations of Christianity.
Katolik dan Protestan bertobatlah.... Kembalilah keajaran primer.
You are wrong! Catholicism was founded in 33AD
@25dollarbill24
Ай бұрын
_"Catholicism was founded in 33AD"_ When and where was the Roman Catholic Church founded?
@MaryGraceMoleski
Ай бұрын
@@25dollarbill24 Throughout Jesus and the Apostles ministry, so around 30AD. And where the Apostles and Jesus ministered, so Jerusalem, Nazareth and the like
@25dollarbill24
Ай бұрын
@@MaryGraceMoleski_"Throughout Jesus and the Apostles ministry, so around 30AD. And where the Apostles and Jesus ministered, so Jerusalem, Nazareth and the like"_ The ROMAN Catholic Church was founded in Israel? The ROMAN Catholic Church was not founded in ROME? Peter had never even been to Rome when the ROMAN Catholic Church was founded?
@TheArmchairPriest
Ай бұрын
@@MaryGraceMoleskijesus never went to Rome. Orthodox Christianity started with Christs ministry and his handing of the keys to Peter. Roman catholicism started when peter was killed in Rome
@katydidd6321
Ай бұрын
@@25dollarbill24 Israel was part of the Roman Empire.
I love jesus.
Ironically, Orthodox church looks more protestant for me than Catholic church. 🤔🤔
@Billswiftgti
Ай бұрын
Orthodox is revolutionary because we follow the only revolutionist who ever lived, Jesus Christ.
The Catholic Church does not teach faith and good works, but a dynamic salvation similar to the orthodox, but starts out with faith alone. Faith and works is a common narrative but not actually doctrine.
@katydidd6321
Ай бұрын
We literally have 2,000 years worth of writings of the saints and church fathers about faith and good works. If Catholics don't read any of it thats kind of on them because its available to all who care about it, but that doesn't mean our Church doesn't teach those things.
@phillipjones2924
Ай бұрын
@@katydidd6321 yes we have plenty of writings about good works, but that's not what saves us. Salvation comes through our faith in Jesus Christ
@johnpolitis7929
Ай бұрын
@@phillipjones2924 How about Tradition, Scripture, and Reason. Universality, Antiquity, and Consent instead! Faith and works minus treasury of merits.
@phillipjones2924
Ай бұрын
@@johnpolitis7929 I'm simply referring to minimum standard for salvation. Everything else is still important, but not what gets us saved in the first place
Only one Became political power vs looking at faith issues. Only one consolidated power to rule nations. Sorry, most believe cause their parents were. Not based upon Christ. All can be good. All can corrupt. Focus in Jesus.
I do not go before Satan will be it's answer
I was Protestant, who was looking into Eastern Orthodoxy but NOW CATHOLIC!!!
@georgecrosthwaite
Ай бұрын
What was the deciding factor for you to choose RCC over EO?
@hap1678
Ай бұрын
@@georgecrosthwaite Hey George, I would say the deciding factor for me is the Filioque and Energy Essence distinction (Articulated by most online EO’s like Jay Dyer). Everything else lined up for me, Papacy, Immaculate Conception, etc. if your looking into resources I would recommend Dwong on youtube’s video Filioque, Classical Theist, Erick Yabara. Much love.
@johnpolitis7929
Ай бұрын
@@hap1678 There are three Churches with Apostolic Succession that are Orthodox, Catholic, and Anglican since they have Holy Orders with threefold ministry of bishop, priest, and deacon. Those with Apostolic Succession are Christian. ' However, there are other Churches such as Lutheran, Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, etc. that don't have Apostolic Succession since they accept the heretical doctrine of priesthood of all believers and reject the threefold ministry of Holy Orders of bishop, priest, and deacon. Those that reject Apostolic Succession are NOT Christian.
@hap1678
Ай бұрын
@@johnpolitis7929 Correction, Anglicans don’t have valid apostolic succession since they didn’t have a valid bishop, also calling them non Christians would be incorrect, they would just err on matter of faith and morals but if they are baptized they are Christians just not in the body of Christ
@johnpolitis7929
Ай бұрын
@@hap1678 First of all, those name are geographic entities and before 1054 with the Great Schism, there was one church with Apostolic Succession. However, there are only 3 with them including Anglicans. Catholicism is not exclusively reside in the Roman Church. All other sects that reject Apostolic Succession are not Christian since there can be no Church without Holy Orders to dispense the Word and Sacraments.
Roman-catholics are latin. After the great schism they kept the greek word katholikos for their church insteed of using a latin word. Roman-universal church thats the real name of the ,,catholic,, church. But without the word ,catholic, there is NO connection to the real Church of Christ.... After the 1. schism, even the Bible became itala in the west, but the word ,catholic, remain in greek. Why? Smart people know the answer.
AD (year) not (year) AD.
A riddle that will never be resolved but will always be desputed until? Humanity Repents with the greatest humility in so to recognise the words that took his very life, For if you say your the son of god, Why do you not save yourself Surely you no the act against you is treason, Rabi that's why you are hear he remained silent they where confused they brutalized him placed a crown of horns on his head, They shouted out crucify him crucifiy him Jesus was taken from trial marched to calvery carrying a cross floged beaten along the way, They nailed his hands and feet as the cross was raised, He was taunted, Surely if you are the son of god help yourself and come down of the cross, Instead of water they spunged vinger to his face to further taunt, Jesus roared out to his father confirming his gloriouse asention into heaven, The gravity of this had been Jesus was one with the father as the father one with him, One devine person, Kings Queens Highpriests no matter there rank saught Jesus destruction feeling under threat, Surely how could one man carry so much weight they feared him, The highpriests whom saught his crucification to this very day colaberate to find new ways to radicolise brainwash the masses, Creating a pathway forward for religouse contention confusion radicalization the world fighting loosing itself in humanity falling piece by piece cohersive control from that day to the present yet awaiting to crucify him overcand over for they fear his coming in glory, The riddle humanity cannot resolve only through humility and faith excepting god is reality and above all, If you truly belive is there a need to fight amongst yourselves is it better to believe one man than to listen to the tung's of many whom claim for there own benefit, Do not let saintan harvest your soul live a clean modest life be thankful for small merceys, Follow the commandments read your bible keep holly the sabbath day, Repent for your misgivings receive confession and the sacraments live a just trouble free life, Religone and politics clash create wars keep holly his word the word of god for they whom do not believe will be judged, The greatest gift humanity can have is the gift of god, All religones may interpitate there faith differently but there is only one god for he said, He who belief in me will have internal life in the kingdom of heaven untill i come again in glory to judge the living and the dead for his kingdom will have no end,
Wrong. Your Orthodox was basically founded by Constantine when Constantine moved his capital to Byzantium.
@SUDMONEYBAGS
Ай бұрын
How so?
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Fragt,ihm er,ist der nannOura Got
Very clever wording. You don't say how long after the first Christian church came into being after the Resurrection, that the first Orthodox church was established. If one doesn't listen closely and carefully, it could sound like you're trying to 'imply' it was 33 AD. History tells us it wasn't until 120 AD that the first Orthodox church was established, and it's totally different from the way the Book of Acts describes what early Christians believed and how they worshiped.
15 yrs a Protestant. Catholicism is true. All of it.
@hap1678
Ай бұрын
Amen
@katydidd6321
Ай бұрын
Lex orendi, lex credendi, lex vivendi!
@dewd9327
Ай бұрын
no, the 4th Baptist Church of Missouri is the true church
Shoulda been Catholic vs Orthodox
🙄 47 seconds into this video, its already wrong.
@robertotapia8086
Ай бұрын
Agree 👍🏼
@mtalk828
Ай бұрын
Wrong on what? 🤔Explain
@katydidd6321
Ай бұрын
@@mtalk828 the first church to be established was the Catholic Church, not the Orthodox Church. The Orthodox Church split off from the Catholic Church around 325 AD for theological reasons.
@mtalk828
Ай бұрын
@@katydidd6321 - Orthodox left the Roman Church, or, the Roman left Orthodox? Which is it? And how you know?
@katydidd6321
Ай бұрын
@@mtalk828 I just told you which one it was. Feel free to read my comment again.
Catholics are right . Protestant change lots of things they shouldn't. Orthodox decided to be national churches like Serbian Orthodox Church without evangelisation
@DylanEmelio-oz5rd
Ай бұрын
This is a horrible argument against the orthodox. Autocephalous church’s was the norm since the beginning. Each of those church’s hold to the exact same beliefs with the only difference being language and certainly national feasts that are celebrated. And to deny that the Catholic Church does not have an ethnic character, as any church does, is absurd.
@user-darkodbd
Ай бұрын
We should first focus on the bible alone. You are saved from believing in Jesus Christ as your only savior and by repenting your sins. You DO NOT need to pay the church or do any wordly things to come in to heaven, according to the bible. God says in the bible these things can be beneficial and sin leads to bad things, but they are not needed for salvation. I do not say don't go to church, it helps you to grow in your faith to go to the church, but also live your life like the bible (god) tells you, not what a men tells you. Even Jesus said love your church but also test their faith by comparing their actions with what the bible says.
@johnpolitis7929
Ай бұрын
@@user-darkodbd There are three Churches with Apostolic Succession that are Orthodox, Catholic, and Anglican since they have Holy Orders with threefold ministry of bishop, priest, and deacon. Those with Apostolic Succession are Christian. ' However, there are other Churches such as Lutheran, Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, etc. that don't have Apostolic Succession since they accept the heretical doctrine of priesthood of all believers and reject the threefold ministry of Holy Orders of bishop, priest, and deacon. Those that reject Apostolic Succession are NOT Christian.
@johnpolitis7929
Ай бұрын
@@user-darkodbd There are three Churches with Apostolic Succession that are Orthodox, Catholic, and Anglican since they have Holy Orders with threefold ministry of bishop, priest, and deacon. Those with Apostolic Succession are Christian. ' However, there are other Churches such as Lutheran, Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, etc. that don't have Apostolic Succession since they accept the heretical doctrine of priesthood of all believers and reject the threefold ministry of Holy Orders of bishop, priest, and deacon. Those that reject Apostolic Succession are NOT Christian.
@johnpolitis7929
Ай бұрын
@@user-darkodbd That payment is called tithing which is in the Bible and tithing is a Biblical commandment of God.
Christ did not left a bible, he left a church (only one), while orthodox has apostolic succesion...they broke with the succesor of Peter at 1054. Protestantism has only 500 years, created by an apostate catholic priest called luther. There is only one, holy and apostolic church: the catholic church "And the gates of hell shall not prevail". Either Jesus lied or he told the truth. 2000 years can back this up.
@johnpolitis7929
Ай бұрын
@dezlovecraft5247 There are three Churches with Apostolic Succession that are Orthodox, Catholic, and Anglican since they have Holy Orders with threefold ministry of bishop, priest, and deacon. Those with Apostolic Succession are Christian. ' However, there are other Churches such as Lutheran, Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, etc. that don't have Apostolic Succession since they accept the heretical doctrine of priesthood of all believers and reject the threefold ministry of Holy Orders of bishop, priest, and deacon. Those that reject Apostolic Succession are NOT Christian.
@wbazan36201
Ай бұрын
@@johnpolitis7929 The Catholic Church also teaches priesthood of all believers. Read Lumen Gentium. Orthodox as well with the royal priesthood of all believers.
@masteryodapresidentofiraq
Ай бұрын
Ah yes, because the current pope is a true man of God I wonder if his heresies were said ex cathedra
@johnpolitis7929
Ай бұрын
@@wbazan36201 That is heretical Protestant teaching which is NOT Catholic. Vatican II is most certainly NOT Catholic as it's an apostate heretical counterfeit Church.
The Catholic Church was started by Jesus Christ in 33AD. The Orthodox Church split from the original church in 1054AD (The Great Schism).
@dartheli7400
Ай бұрын
If by „Catholic“ you mean the universal Church, sure. If you mean the RCC, absolutely not.
@petrabanjarnahor229
Ай бұрын
I like the 5 christian beliefs as the guideline of who got it right.
@-anZen-
Ай бұрын
Bruv, you got it the other way around
@Oliver-rt8hv
Ай бұрын
God bless the Holy, Catholic, and Apostalic Church!
@justthink8952
Ай бұрын
@@dartheli7400all apostolic churches are constituents of Catholic Church. Protestants churches are not.
Well now that is mostly a BS / false message. They clearly said the early Church was defined as universal, which in Greek is pronounced Catholic. The Catholic Church never sold indulgences for the forgiveness of ‘sin’. Only confession offers forgiveness for sin. Instead indulgences are a way to reduce purgatory time and temporal punishment that might remain after the sin is forgiven. Protestantism (all of them) is a heresy.
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Ave Maria ✝️
None of them.
@stfustfu7765
Ай бұрын
I mean, that is the best way to a normal life... Imagine having verses in the bible that say, and i quote: "The blind man is not blind because of the sin of his parents or his personal sins, but because the God showed himself in that blind man"... Such an idiotic statement that serves no purpose, logic or anything remotely understandable...Like what an actual f***? Does it not make sense to actually change something within yourself, by exercising, strengthening your body, mind, health and discipline, and actually respecting yourself, rather than praying and expecting some weird form of salvation by accepting some unknown being that obviously does not care about you? Something did create us, life definitely started somehow...But to actually believe that this higher being cares about is totally absurd and weird, because we are left in agony and pain, we pray and lose our health while standing in agony for hours... One thing i can thank Christianity for is teaching me to be healthier, by avoiding sugar, sweets by fasting...Kind of preparing me for a vegan lifestyle, other than that i see no point in believing this cra*...
@fatalheart7382
Ай бұрын
@@stfustfu7765 Ahh. That's heavy. I'm not goin to tell you there is no darkness. But there is a difference to what you feel and what should be. It's a simple answer to the question of who life should be about. If not the Creator, then who? You can make it about yourself, but I feel that is lonely and not sustainable as it is not what led to life in the first place. As the source of life, life only comes from God. There's no other way to light or goodness, just as evil and darkness would not exist without His willing it to be. But, again, we collide with the question of what should be. The heaviness and pain of it all is that we do not get to choose. Our hopes and lives go ignored and there is pain and torment while we live. These things we do not like and it is understandable from our perspective to avoid them. Biblically speaking, though, everything pretty much exists from the avenue of love or lack of love. God does all that He pleases and we too make decisions based on what we love most as knowing something is wrong is not enough to stop us from doing it. We choose fantasy over reality and it pretty much seems that although God may exist on a higher plain than we do with far deeper reasons, with the power to make anything exist, He is only doing as He wishes. But the break you are looking for, the God that cares, that existence where things work out, is not a change of circumstances, or the achievement of a dream, or the relief of pain. I know it is tempting to believe that if your heart got what it wanted all the time, always, that that is what would finally make you whole. However, the Bible says something entirely different about this: "Fear God and obey His commands for that is the whole of man." "Without love ... I am nothing." Let's say everything was as it should be, except that there was no love. Let's say everything was as you wanted it to be, except that there was no love. Let's say you had all the power of God, but in your heart, there was no love. What will make you whole is not the sun finally rising and the darkness going away. What will make you whole is the same heart as the one who put himself on the cross and felt the eternities of darkness that every single person who would believe in him deserved. Do likewise. You do not need your life to be perfect to have everything. You only need love perfectly. That's the solution. It's about who you choose to be. "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." Who cares if God cares? The real question is, "Do you care?" Will you do what you should do, be who you should be, even if all things are against you? That's the exit. The overcoming. The beauty that is worth everything. "For Whose sake I have lost all things." In the end, it is easy to love. To lay down your life. To take the day of darkness, and shine. Jesus did. That's what God does and has always been doing: "Let there be light." So do not fear even the darkest things you must go through; for, "You will reap what you sow." "God is light; in Him there is no darkness at all."
@botbat9645
Ай бұрын
@@stfustfu7765god care about us and all of your questions have answers in Islam im not here to preach but go and search for the truth and you will find out by your self Allah said in his holy book (And decree for us in this world [that which is] good and [also] in the Hereafter; indeed, we have turned back to You." [Allah] said, "My punishment - I afflict with it whom I will, but My mercy encompasses all things." So I will decree it [especially] for those who fear Me and give zakah and those who believe in Our verses(156) Those who follow the Messenger, the the Prophet who can neither read nor write (i.e. Muhammad SAW) whom they find written with them in the Taurat (Torah) (Deut, xviii, 15) and the Injeel (Gospel) (John xiv, 16), - he commands them for Al-Ma'ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam has ordained); and forbids them from Al-Munkar (i.e. disbelief, polytheism of all kinds, and all that Islam has forbidden); he allows them as lawful At-Taiyibat [(i.e. all good and lawful) as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons, foods, etc.], and prohibits them as unlawful Al-Khaba'ith (i.e. all evil and unlawful as regards things, deeds, beliefs, persons, foods, etc.), he releases them from their heavy burdens (of Allah's Covenant), and from the fetters (bindings) that were upon them. So those who believe in him (Muhammad SAW), honour him, help him, and follow the light (the Quran) which has been sent down with him, it is they who will be successful.(157)
@stfustfu7765
Ай бұрын
@@fatalheart7382 so what you are saying is that this philosophy is the right one? And that neither orthodox, protestant, catholic or any other church/denomination, religion or whatever got it right? So what religion do you preach?"fatalheart7382-nity" maybe? As far as i am concerned, orthodox christianity is the only suitable abrahamic religion to consider, as judaism is the fallen one when Jews rebelled against Jesus...Islam is pretty much copy-paste of christianity with harem, and 4 wives being the end-goal. So the only true denomination i consider being worthy of criticism is Orthodoxy, which is pretty much shown throughout history as well. Orthodoxy still remains the only religion that does not force itself on others etc...Islam was forcedonvso many nations, and you have bunch of smaller islamic groups all around the world. Buddhism and Shinto on the other hand are pretty weird in and of itself, shinto being polytheistic, and buddhism being unrelated to higher force at all, which is prrety weird, to totally ditch supernatural deities/deity, that obviously created life in the first place.... But is it really the Christian Orthodox church that preaches the truth, or is God really not interested in us at all...Hard to tell honestly...
@fatalheart7382
Ай бұрын
@@stfustfu7765 None of the churches allow themselves to be governed by the Holy Spirit, but have since the passing of the Apostles fallen under the leadership of man, growing more and more into their own teachings, interpretations, and traditions. Sure. I could sell you an "inity", but the whole Bible and what it talks about hinges upon God being an existent being one can interact with. That's its shield. So, I can introduce you to God, but keep in mind that if the scriptures are not already enough to convict you, then an out of the ordinary mystical experience isn't going to either. Faith in God is about the heart and if the heart is one that shrinks back, it's going to create its own excuses about things even if someone raises from the dead. So when He does show up, be ready, be open, and pursue Him. But you're going to have to accept the God of the Old Testament as well as the New. And that God, the real God, is not interested in being palpable to mankind. XD About the churches, and why they are all wrong, one example is divorce, which they were commanded by the Lord to not let happen. They have since, all of them, allowed for it in some way and sanctioned adultery in the form of marrying divorced women. But, though hand joins in hand, the sexually immoral will not inherit the Kingdom of God. :0
There are three Churches with Apostolic Succession that are Orthodox, Catholic, and Anglican since they have Holy Orders with threefold ministry of bishop, priest, and deacon. Those with Apostolic Succession are Christian. ' However, there are other Churches such as Lutheran, Presbyterian, Methodist, Baptist, etc. that don't have Apostolic Succession since they accept the heretical doctrine of priesthood of all believers and reject the threefold ministry of Holy Orders of bishop, priest, and deacon. Those that reject Apostolic Succession are NOT Christian.
@fgutie35
Ай бұрын
Anglican was NOT founded by an Apostle, so it is not Apostolic. The other Orthodox churches WERE founded the Apostles.
@johnpolitis7929
Ай бұрын
@@fgutie35 Wrong answer!
@johnpolitis7929
Ай бұрын
@@fgutie35 What about 597 AD in England with Augustine of Canterbury.
@ilaion11
Ай бұрын
@@johnpolitis7929 he was in the Christian Church before being split because of wrongful dogmas. Actually, we, Orthodox Christians have saints from England from that period of time before the great schism. I lived in England for 4 years and I went to orthodox churches that were build by the Church of England. London is full of churches, but many of them are not in use anymore. Today GB's land is full of saints from that era before the schism. It is unfortunate the Catholic Church posed such an authority on the west but Orthodoxy really is spread out nowadays. I met dozens of British people coming into the Orthodox Church. One such place where they got baptized is The Greek Orthodox Church of Saint Nectarios, London, in Battersea area. I really miss that place. The priest there is among the best I know.
@katydidd6321
Ай бұрын
To be a truly apostolic Church, you have to be in *Communion with the Successor of Peter.* You may have apostolic aspects, but you don't have an unbroken line of succession from any of Christ's original Apostles. Only the Catholic Church maintains this unbroken line of succession via the Pope. And that's really difficult sometimes, but it defines the Catholic Church and is the secret to it's longevity and survival against various attacks from heretics over the course of 2000 years. Pax vobiscum
None of them got it right, submit to pastor Bill of the 4th Baptist Church of Missouri, the one holy catholic and apostolic church of Christ
@DadoMac
Ай бұрын
Voila! Two thousand years after Jesus founded His church in Jerusalem, a pastor named Bill in Missouri is now claiming he found a true church. Easily fooled by false teachers. Sad.
@brandonedwards1181
Ай бұрын
What a funny meme
@lornadoone8887
Ай бұрын
😂Good one!
@dewd9327
Ай бұрын
@@DadoMac Silence! Submit to Missouri or face certain damnation.
@newend2116
Ай бұрын
@@DadoMac There is no salvation outside of the church Take the cookie 🍪 and grape juice 🍇
Catholic is the Mother, and Orthodox, Protestant, and every religion who adopts her doctrines are.her children,@Rev. 17:15-17,
@joannagrimeki7415
7 күн бұрын
Dream on!
@MrZeuqsav
7 күн бұрын
Prophets ,Jesus and his apostles termed the religions or organization as Mother,woman,she,and bride, here is one @Mat, 12:46-50, Jesus point his finger towards his apostles and said,"look,they are my mother!"@@joannagrimeki7415
Christians founded in the book of acts was the first. Paul taught believe to be saved. The other denominations teach works for heaven rather than Jesus.
@jamesv2471
Ай бұрын
Salvation is a grace freely given to us by God. Once we accept salvation, we need to show our faith through our works (James 2:14-26).
So yeah the Eastern orthodox is first then the Roman Catholic split off then it was protestant so who is clearly the heretic Catholic church 😊
@fgutie35
Ай бұрын
Eastern Orthodox recognize Peter as having Primacy amongst the Apostolic Churches, so both are true in their Universal doctrine.
@ilaion11
Ай бұрын
@@fgutie35 No! The Eastern Orthodox Church does not recognize the primacy of Peter nor the papal infallibility and a supposed "successor" of Peter on Earth or the vicar of Christ or locum tenens of Him. There is no common doctrine since Catholics state the Holly Spirit proceeds both from the Father and from the Son and therefore, there is no Universality between RCC and EOC.
@TheArmchairPriest
Ай бұрын
@@ilaion11’wrong’
@katydidd6321
Ай бұрын
Church began in Rome and was Universal (katholikos - Catholic). Orthodox Church split from the Universal Church and became decidedly NOT universal.
@ilaion11
Ай бұрын
@@katydidd6321 the Church did not began in Rome, it was just officialized as a legal church by emperor Constantine. At the same time, in 1054 Rome decided not to follow the Holly Tradition anymore and introduce heresy. We split because it was the right thing to do. Accepting heresy draws you out of universality, no matter if you are a majority or not. Check your facts before endorsing them! Check what both sides have to say and don't be unilateral until you researched and you have certainties.
None of them, abrahamism is false
@botbat9645
Ай бұрын
How do you explain the begging of the universe i bet Steven Hawkins didn't know who made the universe in the first i bet if he knew anything
@ALushPair
Ай бұрын
@@botbat9645 we don't know if there's a beginning or if the universe is cyclical. If God can exist without a beginning so can the universe
@botbat9645
Ай бұрын
@@ALushPair brah go search up for evidence for begging if universe you will find a study that explain how universe is begging by tracking the cosmic microwaves if you don't know just say it and if you have two brain cells connected to each other you will realize that whoever created the matter, time , space should be matter-less and time-less and space-less and clearly he don't have begging because begging and ending are limited in the time which doesn't apply in god
It's the Jews who are right .....🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 They still worship One God, whereas Christians worships 3 Gods. Point....!
@user-ej9gk5rh5z
25 күн бұрын
1 God three persons 😂
@user-ej9gk5rh5z
25 күн бұрын
The Hebrew Bible talks about Trinity (genesis 1:1-2) and Psalms
@UnderSunRoblox
25 күн бұрын
No it’s the Muslims that are right 🕋🏴🏳️