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ORNETTE COLEMAN "Genesis Of Genius: The Contemporary Albums" REVIEWED!
Ornette Coleman, as important a figure in jazz as Miles, Coltrane, Buddy Bolden, and Dave Brubeck. Discuss.
Ornette Coleman, as important a figure in jazz as Miles, Coltrane, Buddy Bolden, and Dave Brubeck. Discuss.
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Ken you are the most articulate jazz reviewer on YT. I always learn so much. I don’t think I’ve read any of your prose but I can tell from listening to you that you can write. Quite the word smith and that’s what makes your YT videos so punchy, enjoyable and easy to listen to.
@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jonathan!
@xentakis
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve read some, it is solid!
It’s great to hear someone talk about Ornette with so much love and reverence. I agree that Ornette doesn’t get the recognition that he deserves.
"Tomorrow is the question" was the first jazz lp I ever bought. I got it because I read an interview with Robert Wyatt saying how much hé loved it, especially the drumming. So for me it's never seemed complex or difficult, just beautiful, it was released by 'Contemporary' and still feels contemporary.
The five spot… The first jazz club I ever went to and it really was a great experience. I wound up going with my friend every Friday night to hear the Max Roach Quintet for months. Really exciting.
Thanks for the review and all other jazz info.😀
Agree with you, Ken. This is juicy and playful music placed in a slim and tasteful box. Go for it!!
Good to see a new video, Ken! I still have to adventure myself into Ornette’s sound… great expose
This was awesome - pre-ordered a copy of "Genesis of Genius" months ago so I'm squared away, but I really enjoyed learning of the other releases you high lighted. Thanks!
Ornette was always a hard one to like. But it's been many years and after watching your video I'm gonna give it another shot.
Hey Ken, thanks for the overview on Ornette's early years - greatly appreciated 🎶.
Thanks Ken. I’ve been on the fence about buying this set. Great review!
This video has singlehandedly gotten in me into Ornette Coleman. These albums are indeed a great way to ease into his discography.
Thanks for the review. I just ordered the 2LP box set on Craft Recordings. The only Ornette Coleman record I have for the moment is The Shape of Jazz To Come by OMG Music.
Great stuff, Ken! I love OC, but, apparently, like you, I sometimes forget just how much I love him and enjoy listening to him! I’m always grateful to see one of your videos pop up, to hear your reflections, and to be able to take notes on your recommendations! All the best, brother! ❤️
@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
2 жыл бұрын
Sweet of you to say Chris
Glad you're back, been scarce of late. Hope all's well and more vids to come
@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I’m rather discouraged about the whole video thing. I think I need a fancier pair of glasses.
Picked this up a few months ago. Absolutely loved it! Also picked up the Ornette box set by Blue Note so it’s been a wild musical year. 😵💫😵💫😵💫
Thank you for this education! I can’t wait to listen to these albums.
l agree Ken Shelley Manne sounds great in any setting
I've seen some reviews of this release and now I'm sure I should include it in my collection, thanks Ken.
I received my Ornette box set last week. The TP box set is still sealed. Now, I just feel so energized I feel like opening them haha. Too bad is so late. But tomorrow…. Thanks for the video! 👍
This box set is still available at Amazon. My local record store has it too. They are pretty readily available.
Wonderful. Love your channel
Nice video Ken, love your knowledge 🙌
Available on Amazon $54
Oh man!
Very interesting Ken. When you cut the top end, even slightly, you loose some of the phase information between channels, which is why the recording looses space and width.
My love of Jazz started with electric Miles, with Ornette soon following. I loved the challenge of listening to something so different to my R&R ears. To me Ornette's music is not linear or a wave, I picture the individual instruments as kinda like electrons swirling around a center as it rolls on, each move of one causes the others to move.
@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
2 жыл бұрын
Started with electric miles? Like live at Fillmore West and decoy? Those are the utter boundaries of Miles Davis, that music is perpetually of the future. Most people don’t understand it.
@patrickshawl7189
2 жыл бұрын
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 Bitches Brew in 1972 then moved quickly to At the Fillmore, which is not my favorite, and Jack Johnson then went backwards through his catalog and fell in love with the 2nd Quartet and by extension all those guys. I was in my LSD phase, which helped with the Coltrane, Pharoah Sanders, AEC, Sun Ra, Ornette, free jazz side of things. I got bored with the acid but not the Jazz. Funny thing is from there I skipped Bebop and went right into the pre-war Big Bands, now I'm catching up on the Hardbop with all these great reissues.
just great!
Been looking forward to this review. Great analysis. What two Atlantics were you referring to? The Shape of Jazz to Come and Free Jazz?
@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
2 жыл бұрын
This is Our Music, Shape of Jazz to Come
BTW: "New York is Now" is a vital, robust, loud and strange work filtered through the weirdness that was New York (& America) in the early 1970s. I am lucky I found an OG copy recently.
I’d love to hear some of your vintage Contemporary and Blue Note albums on your Thorens, Shindo and DeVore Fidelity system, my good man. Aloha from Honolulu.
@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
2 жыл бұрын
I need to visit you. You need to visit me!
I love the stereo presentation of my 60/70's contemporary records; super wide stage and clear, natural instruments. looks like you can grab a craft box for ~ 60$ on discogs. would you recommend grabbing two VG+ originals for about the same dough? I've been very impressed with the recent craft contemporary reboots...
@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
2 жыл бұрын
As stated in my review the original had a much bigger sound with better layering.
@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
2 жыл бұрын
Roy Dunann was a much more consistent engineer than Rudy Van Gelder. Granted he didn’t have to do as much work, but all of the contemporary records sound fantastic., Flat, natural.
Ah, city life! Ken doesn't even hear the car alarm go off. Still, good to hear the sounds of the city.
@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
2 жыл бұрын
I heard all the noise, but I don’t close the window to make videos.
Great box. Tone poet released a box of his six live blue note records
@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
2 жыл бұрын
I believe they included the two records I referred to which are studio recordings
Ornette was a great Texas bluesman.
I bought skies of america in a bargain bin when it came out. still in high school. Never heard anything like it since. It may be an easier intro to ornette than some of the so called free jazz. 30 plus years later I played some of it while teaching a music appreciation class.
@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
2 жыл бұрын
Why do you think it’s an easier introduction to Ornette than the contemporary or early Atlantic records?
@paulschmelzer5409
2 жыл бұрын
@@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455 We had just spent a semester on orchestral works . Ornette it seems is best known for harmolodic system of improve. Skies of America seemed closer to some of the modern classical pieces we'd spent some time with in class.
Great video! I just noticed that you have a pair of Fleetwood Deville speakers behind you. What are your thoughts on those speakers? Just curious. Thanks 👍🏻
@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
2 жыл бұрын
I keep forgetting to place the link to my review. Google ken micallef stereophile fleetwood deville
@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
2 жыл бұрын
No thanks a lot
@chuckisidro8624
2 жыл бұрын
Cool! I’ll check it out. Thanks.
I was living in Europe when I began reading that Coleman was the greatest thing since sliced bread. So, as a jazz fan, I thought I should find some of his LPs. Bought three. Awful. I recall a Monk quote something like music should be pleasing to the ear. But, as the lady said when she kissed the cow, everyone to their own taste.
Ornette came to sound logical to me.
@wylieroth3145
2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right about Shelly Manne. He really surprised me with his work on Rollins' "Way Out West."
@wylieroth3145
2 жыл бұрын
That was a very good and insightful review. Well done Ken. I'm glad to have gotten ALL those early pressings all those many yrs ago. I sometimes get the impression that Steve Coleman's work is an extension of what Ornette was working toward. And you mentioned the humor in Ornette's work; it can be very funny. I sometimes laugh when I hear Coltrane because I can't believe what he just played!
@wylieroth3145
2 жыл бұрын
But wait! I'm not quite done. I find the interplay between Ornette and Haden fascinating. They are definitely listening to each other and playing off or from each other's ideas. Country bumpkins, Ha! Incredible and lasting work by all concerned. Thanks again. Time to throw on some Ornette!
@kenmicallefjazzvinylaudiop6455
2 жыл бұрын
@@wylieroth3145 excellent sir