Origin of the Lance Corporal (USMC)

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  • @0321man1
    @0321man13 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed being a L/Cpl so much, I decided I would try it twice.

  • @vankyre

    @vankyre

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ah, got punched by the ninja huh? Respect killer :D

  • @therond.patron4959

    @therond.patron4959

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol

  • @1sttvbn

    @1sttvbn

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @scee7492

    @scee7492

    3 жыл бұрын

    Real Marine!

  • @area609joe7

    @area609joe7

    3 жыл бұрын

    U win!

  • @catsfrommars
    @catsfrommars3 жыл бұрын

    Just to demonstrate how hard it is to escape the rank of LCpl, in a bunch of combat MOS's Marines half-jokingly have "Senor Lance Corporals" in leadership positions.

  • @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13

    @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13

    3 жыл бұрын

    That exists in non-combat MOSs too.

  • @catsfrommars

    @catsfrommars

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 not saying you're wrong but the difference between a POG MOS and let's say an 0311, POG MOS - gets to do extra paperwork and spreadsheets; gets to tell others that they're doing a job usually meant for a Staff Sergeant or Gunny.. Grunt MOS - take over a fire team or two and assault that building; gets told to do a call for fire or 9-line..

  • @jrr3418

    @jrr3418

    3 жыл бұрын

    This POG was a tank-commander as a lance once upon a time.

  • @knoahbody69

    @knoahbody69

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's because of all the Sergeants and Staff Sergeants getting orders to recruiting duty, Drill Instructor, and to a lesser extent, Corporals going to MSG Duty. There was also sea duty but I understand Marines don't do sea duty.

  • @twotatanka5396

    @twotatanka5396

    3 жыл бұрын

    Where 2nd awards at!? Errrrr

  • @mchlwilson1
    @mchlwilson13 жыл бұрын

    When I was Lance Corporal stationed at Marine Barracks, Roosevelt Roads, Puerto Rico from 1982-84, Lance Corporals were section leaders, a section consisting of 10 men. When I transferred to the fleet, I was very surprised to learn that L/Cpls had no leadership responsibilities.

  • @Xavieus

    @Xavieus

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why the fuck are you putting a slash in the rank abbreviation? It’s LCpl dude

  • @philipramsden4975

    @philipramsden4975

    Жыл бұрын

    Try being a Cpl or Sgt in a G shop. We'd be taking out the trash at the end of the day 😂

  • @vankyre
    @vankyre3 жыл бұрын

    When I was deployed with 3/5 in Afghanistan, a lot of squad leaders in companies were lance coolies because of the broken ass promotion system. Didn't matter if they were not NCO's though - they filled in the billet and got the job done as best as possible. Lots of my friends got out after 4 years in the Marines never getting promoted to Corporal.

  • @gmac8852

    @gmac8852

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't blame them. I'm not saying promote just to promote but rank in the Corps just takes too long.

  • @rsk9228

    @rsk9228

    3 жыл бұрын

    03s are the worst for picking up a CPL Cutting score is ridiculous And 1/7 here You'll did work over there God Bless

  • @IamGreatsword

    @IamGreatsword

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ergo. Perma Lance, I was a SAW Gunner in the Corps before I got out.

  • @dave-d-grunt

    @dave-d-grunt

    Жыл бұрын

    Good friend of mine was promoted to Cpl at separations lol

  • @DEVILDOG1964

    @DEVILDOG1964

    Жыл бұрын

    I WAS IN M 3/5 IN NAM

  • @LtActionCam
    @LtActionCam3 жыл бұрын

    I had a few lance corporal squad leaders and they did awesome. Aggressive junior leaders that had the trust of their entire squad.

  • @krane15

    @krane15

    2 жыл бұрын

    Typically the oldest and/or the more mature of the group.

  • @WilliamSanderson-zh9dq
    @WilliamSanderson-zh9dq3 жыл бұрын

    Best, easy to understand rank graphics anywhere.

  • @chair2930
    @chair29303 жыл бұрын

    The three best ranks in the Marine Corps: Lance Coconut, Sergeant, and Gunny.

  • @johngonsoulin7413

    @johngonsoulin7413

    3 жыл бұрын

    SgtMaj Sutton used to call us Lance Coconuts in Hawaii. Never heard it before or after that man until now.

  • @akallio9000

    @akallio9000

    3 жыл бұрын

    40 some years ago, I knew it as "Lance Coolie".

  • @chair2930

    @chair2930

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@akallio9000 was still a thing as of 2014 when I got out.

  • @really_dont_know1681

    @really_dont_know1681

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@akallio9000 still a thing as of today trust me

  • @johnstreet1812

    @johnstreet1812

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lance Cooley.

  • @johntellerman1
    @johntellerman12 жыл бұрын

    I made Lance in January '65 in Vietnam when we (3/9) rotated back to the Da Nang airbase. In the 60s it was very hard to make rank. We had PFCs with good records get out as E2s at 4 years, and that was not unusual. Back then Lance was described as a Marine with enough rank to get out of crap details, but not enough rank to have much responsibility.

  • @jasonirwin4631

    @jasonirwin4631

    2 жыл бұрын

    So basically the best rank to have.

  • @NAMVETSTARLITE

    @NAMVETSTARLITE

    Жыл бұрын

    AS AN E-3 IN NAM I WAS A FIRE TEAM LEADER OF 3 PLUS ME. A COUPLE PRIVATES OR PRIVATES FIRST CLASS. THAT WAS 65-66. COULD HAVE BEEN E-4 THEY SAID IF I RE-ENLISTED. THAT WAS 1966. BY THEN I'D SAW TO MANY FELLOW MARINES DIE. MY COMPANY HAD TO REORGANIZE AFTER OPERATION STARLITE OR CHU LAI 8-18-1965. WE LOST 14 KIA WITH MAYBE 40 WIA. SEVERAL WERE SENT TO OTHER NAM UNITS. I WENT TO C-1-1, DA NANG. THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER STORY. OOH-RAH SEMPER FI

  • @mikebrase5161

    @mikebrase5161

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@NAMVETSTARLITE I retired from the Army in 2011. Spent 20 years as a Grunt. Before I went to Iraq in 2004 I read a book called Operation Starlite. That battle was the first triple envelopment using sea, land and air with helicopters. My hats off you guys set the standard. If you don't mind me asking what regiment were you with?

  • @black10872
    @black108723 жыл бұрын

    Make one about the USMC Gunner. That is a very, extremely rare rank

  • @massmike11

    @massmike11

    3 жыл бұрын

    Gunny is not that rare, master gunny on the other hand.

  • @CrossFire22

    @CrossFire22

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@massmike11 he's not talking about the rank Gunnery Sgt, "Gunner" or infantry weapons officers is what he's taking about it's not a rank it's a billet

  • @CrossFire22

    @CrossFire22

    3 жыл бұрын

    Once again not a rank it's a billet

  • @tomrobertson3236

    @tomrobertson3236

    3 жыл бұрын

    In 75 , I had a conversation with the last gunner . It was an arty rank WO4 with a bomb burst on one side . Called a pineapple Later the Marines activated the rank again He was a young private that read the artillery manual . During a live fire operation, the battery kept missing . The young private asked the sgt why the aiming sticks were off . The sgt chewed him out . The general heard the original question and told the sgt to let the pvt work. They started hitting the target. The general forced the sgt and prv to exchange ranks. I asked how long he was a sgt He laughed and said until the previous sgt took him behind the tent and kicked his ass . Back then you had to fight to keep your rank . I also was given a cleanliness lecture by a sgt major who was a tarrawa survivor . He caught my plt coming out of the bush after 2 weeks . We kept our mouths shut and took his lecture

  • @andy_in_nh9243

    @andy_in_nh9243

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ccshzdccshzd6146 Just a small correction to your otherwise excellent post. Marine Gunners (and other warrant officers) are promoted to their rank/MOS and then go to the Warrant Officer Basic Course at TBS.

  • @gandhithegreat328
    @gandhithegreat3282 жыл бұрын

    Sergeant: *Gives corporal a lance* Corporal: “What’s this?” Sergeant: “I thought it be a fun way to tell you you’re being demoted.”

  • @smokeypuppy417
    @smokeypuppy4173 жыл бұрын

    All those marines that got out after 3 1/2 years as a senior Lance corporal while in the army you can get e4 specialist at 18 months of service with a good pt score, good range qual, and showing signs of becoming a leader.

  • @cm-pr2ys

    @cm-pr2ys

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s all you have to do to pick up E4 in the Army? Jesus…

  • @massmike11

    @massmike11

    3 жыл бұрын

    In the Marines you don’t get your rank on time like in the army. You have to earn it and there has to be a space.

  • @smokeypuppy417

    @smokeypuppy417

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@massmike11 the army is desperate for nco's as retention is low as expected. I was a tanker and I saw many guys get e5 at 2 1/2 years and SSG at 5 years.

  • @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13

    @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@smokeypuppy417 lol Never happen in the Corps. Usually get Sgt in your second enlistment and SSgt at 10 years or so.

  • @Darknamja

    @Darknamja

    3 жыл бұрын

    The USAF did away with their E-4 NCOs. I was lucky or unlucky depending on your perspective to be promoted to E-4 one month before the change. There were no boards or tests. Time In Grade and Time In Service was all that was required.

  • @eshelly4577
    @eshelly45772 жыл бұрын

    It was a best rank I ever had!! I ended my USMC tour as a Sergeant. But Lance was the most fun

  • @not-a-theist8251
    @not-a-theist82513 жыл бұрын

    There is a German idiom "eine Lanze für jemanden brechen" so "breaking a Lance" which means to stand up for someome

  • @Fede_uyz

    @Fede_uyz

    Жыл бұрын

    Same in Spanish! we have 'Romper una lanza" ir to break a lance used as in 'i have to break a lance for so and so, that tasking was way out of anyone's league!' and it's more of a 'devils advocate' or defending/justifying an enemy. 'That politician is an ass and his policies suck, but I'll have to break a lance for him, no one expected COVID! so it's not entirely his fault!'

  • @APersonOnYouTubeX

    @APersonOnYouTubeX

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Fede_uyz ooh knew way to impress my friends during English class Thanks! Also, COVID-19 was totally predictable, countries that began to prepare in advance had lesser mortality rates if am not wrong

  • @bearhappy1936
    @bearhappy19363 жыл бұрын

    looking forward to seeing the British Army ranks and weapons appointments from sections to Bn in the future !!!!!!

  • @GySgt_USMC_Ret.
    @GySgt_USMC_Ret.2 жыл бұрын

    I'm a Vietnam-Era, Cold War-Era, Gulf War-Era Vet. I've held every rank through Sgt twice. At one point I was the senior LCpl in the Corps with 6 years TIG (a present from HQMC). Soon after received meritorious promotion to Cpl, one year later reenlisted for 6 yrs with promotion to Sergeant and a fat bonus. Spent the normal TIG to Staff Sergeant, later got passed over for GySgt due to ticking off my OIC for refusing to write a charge sheet on one of my men and received a double-signer fitness report. But it was all worth it. It was a wild ride and I'd do it all again. Or, perhaps I will. I sense a reincarnation in the future where I'll be back as a Space Force Marine. Semper Fidelis, Jarheads! Fair winds and following seas to all.

  • @mmfmmf332
    @mmfmmf3323 жыл бұрын

    I separated as an E-3, Lcpl. Thanks for the video. Very informative.

  • @BattleOrder

    @BattleOrder

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @philipramsden4975
    @philipramsden49753 жыл бұрын

    When I was a LCpl and a "Watch Chief" I referred to myself as the NonNCOIC

  • @mr.v8194

    @mr.v8194

    3 жыл бұрын

    Many months as an lance Cooley

  • @coyoteself
    @coyoteself2 жыл бұрын

    Back in the late 70s during a 3 year enlistment, I was pretty much a terminal Lcpl with a lot of duties of a Cpl. Eventually I was promoted to Cpl 12 days before my active duty enlistment ended

  • @bradz9413
    @bradz94133 жыл бұрын

    The content made on this channel is the finest of anything I have seen on KZread.

  • @bigjohn697791
    @bigjohn6977913 жыл бұрын

    Many moons ago when I was a Lance Bombardier (L/Bdr) I was told the job in the old days of muskets etc.. was to Defence the Gun Crew's with a spear/lance I left as a Sergeant after 14 years although I personally enjoyed being a "full screw" (Bombardier) more. Best rank to be in my mind in the British Army Being a lance Jack was shit to be honest lol...

  • @wilksta156

    @wilksta156

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bombardier was in fact a rank within the Royal Regiment, there was a time when we had both Corporals and Bombardiers, we also had the "rank" of driver as well, but that was more a mix of appointment and rnak and didn't really take proper shape until much later on. That continued up until the end of WW1, but there were mass changes in the interwar years with the merging of the RFA and the RGA into the RA and the move of Brigades to Regiments It was about that time terms like Gunner, Lance Bombardier and Bombardier were offically recoginsed as ranks and the structure we know of today came into force. Also I always found the full screw rank to be our terminal lance, I got mine in under 5 years, then took 10 years to pick up my third due to dead man shoes, then 5 years later I'm BSM, great days

  • @echo21bravo

    @echo21bravo

    3 жыл бұрын

    The common saying from my time (70's-80's) was "The first stripe is the hardest to earn and the easiest to lose" Don't know if it still applies today!

  • @tomschmidt381
    @tomschmidt381 Жыл бұрын

    I'm late to the party. I was in the Marine Corps as an Avionics tech from January '66 - December '69. Managed to get out as an E5. I never thought much about the unique aspect of the Lance Corporal rank. Thanks for the history lesson.

  • @forcesightknight
    @forcesightknight3 жыл бұрын

    "Senior privates" ah so true. It was a battle of its own to get out as e4.

  • @Bigsky1991
    @Bigsky1991 Жыл бұрын

    My old neighbor was a retired Marine Sergeant Major. One day he says to me: " Sir..did I tell you I was an E-10 in the Corp"? I paused, did some mental calculations and said "SGM...the EM ranks only go to E9" He smiled and said " I made E2 five times"!

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme5083 жыл бұрын

    Wow and literally first 🥇! Hope for video about the National Guard units soon.

  • @bobbycarr408
    @bobbycarr4083 жыл бұрын

    As a corporal, I can tell you from experience, that a senior lcpl is your best friend, as far as getting things done.

  • @Drew-vv9ef
    @Drew-vv9ef3 жыл бұрын

    Never knew such a history about a rank, thanks for this

  • @ALRIGHTYTHEN.
    @ALRIGHTYTHEN.3 жыл бұрын

    It's amazing how many things you're not interested in until someone makes a video about it.

  • @krane15

    @krane15

    2 жыл бұрын

    The highest compliment for a content provider if you ask me.

  • @RobertJones-ux6nc
    @RobertJones-ux6nc Жыл бұрын

    I spent 2 years Active Duty as a L/Cpl in a Comm Plt as a Radio Operator working Tactical Air Contol Party (TACP) did not get my Corporal rank until I went into the Reserves in 1980. Then screwed up and was demoted for a while back to L/Cpl . Left as a Sergeant in 1987. My Dad Retired as a Master Gunnery Sergeant when he Retired whom saw Action in WW2, Korea (1950 to Chosin) and

  • @IceniBrave
    @IceniBrave3 жыл бұрын

    The term broken lance is a bit less neat than the explanation about a weapon broken in combat. A 'lance' was a widespread medieval term for the squad of men based around a mounted, armoured man-at-arms. Naturally how this was actually composed varied widely, but for example it might include the knight himself, his squire, and another more lightly equipped horseman. Sometimes also additional foot troops would be part of the lance. The broken lance term in Italy referred to soldiers who for whatever reason had become detached from this organising structure. In late medieval/renaissance warfare the traditional feudal organisation of armies was becoming inadequate for various reasons, and soldiers being hired as individuals became more common.

  • @korakys

    @korakys

    2 жыл бұрын

    I followed your comment to the wikipedia page, _lances fournies_ , which details a lance as typically consisting of a knight/man-at-arms, a squire, and a page, with maybe 1 to 3 archers attached. It was a cavalry unit of 3 to 6 men. Seems like these lances were then grouped into a squadron of 25 lances with a [Lance] Corporal in charge. I speculate that a Lance Corporal was therefore a cavalry equivalent to an infantry corporal with the "lance" indicating a difference from the regular infantry rank. _lanze spezzate_ appears to refer to former members of mercenary companies (typically they got into that state because their company lost a battle and disbanded) who were employed directly by Italian city-states. Their "lance", AKA squad, had disbanded, or been broken, hence the name, translated, "broken lance". Just posting this for the enlightenment of others. The etymology of lance corporal has long been curious to me. Edit: I did some further digging and now I think both origins might be correct-in a way. _Lanze spezzate_ became the word lancepesade, which was a higher grade of private, but as time went on and duties increased lancepesades became effectively a lower grade of corporal. From this a new rank of lancepesade-corporal was created, thereafter shortened to lance corporal. Important note: rank and grade don't mean the same thing, with rank being the official/formal term and grade being more informal/temporary.

  • @Bibighaus
    @Bibighaus2 жыл бұрын

    I remember being really excited to be promoted to LCpl to get the crossed rifles. The seasoned or “salty” LCpl have leadership responsibilities. I was with a smaller unit as LCpl and had more responsibilities than I had as Cpl with larger unit. I spent most of my time as LCpl. I was excited to get Cpl for blood strips then Sergeant to be a Sergeant but the best memories were the LCpl days in Okinawa.

  • @dave-d-grunt

    @dave-d-grunt

    Жыл бұрын

    Great times there! Semper Fi

  • @Andrew_Pooch
    @Andrew_Pooch2 жыл бұрын

    I was a LCpl infantry squad leader in the Marines. I had 2 Cpl’s as team leaders in which 1stSgt did not like. I was in this role over the Cpl’s because I had combat experience in Afghanistan. The 2 Cpl’s were in drill known as 8th & I with no combat experience. My final squad ended up being all LCpls including myself as Squad Leader. I was in this role for a year and half before getting out and was never promoted. During war time some of the best combat Marines are the LCpls.

  • @roguevirus
    @roguevirus3 жыл бұрын

    Former Marine here, excellent video! Quick question, what movie did you pull the clip from starting at 1:49? Keep up the good work!

  • @BattleOrder

    @BattleOrder

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks mate! It's a Spanish film called Alatriste

  • @themastermason1

    @themastermason1

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BattleOrder That explains Viggo Mortensen in the clip. He's fluent in Spanish along with several other languages like Danish and took readily to Quenya and Sindarin.

  • @IceniBrave

    @IceniBrave

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a fucking excellent movie. You can pause some scenes and the composition, lighting, etc looks just like the paintings of the era.

  • @1GUNSQUIRREL

    @1GUNSQUIRREL

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was a corporal once and a lance corporal twice my favorite rank just enough rank to subdue the privates and not enough rank to be responsible for anything Semper Fi 68 to 70

  • @1sttvbn

    @1sttvbn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1GUNSQUIRREL 😂 Yep!

  • @Cu3b4ll93
    @Cu3b4ll933 жыл бұрын

    Remember to lift with your Lance Corporals.

  • @13thravenpurple94
    @13thravenpurple94 Жыл бұрын

    Great video Thank you

  • @Linusgump
    @Linusgump Жыл бұрын

    When I was stationed in Okinawa during the mid 1990’s and watching the Forced Entertainment, er Far East Network, they had a commercial about the origins of the Lance Criminal that is a tad different. In that version the Lance was a soldier on horse with the big stick, like jousting, and was effectively the same rank as the corporal, who was an infantryman. But when his horse was killed out from under him, he would attach himself to an infantry and become the assistant to the Corporal, thus making him a Lance Corporal.

  • @noodles5438
    @noodles54383 жыл бұрын

    Nice job on this video.

  • @jeffbrewer8810
    @jeffbrewer88103 жыл бұрын

    Just found your channel. Excellent video!

  • @ECharlie-kq1ib
    @ECharlie-kq1ib3 жыл бұрын

    Cool video! Always wondered about the USMC Lcpl.

  • @edwarddaniels1741
    @edwarddaniels17412 жыл бұрын

    I enlisted in the US Navy in 1961. There was a Marine unit assigned at my first command for security. I remember seeing Marines with two different types of stripes, some had crossed guns and some did not. Then I remember seeing posted a USMC Memo stating that if personnel did not qualify for promotion to the "new ranks" by a certain date the would "revert" to the new (lower) rank with no loss of pay.

  • @johntellerman

    @johntellerman

    2 жыл бұрын

    At that time a corporal E3 had two stripes and was an NCO, but when the rank reorganization occurred in the early 60s corporals became lance corporals, still an E3, but not an NCO. So instead of two stripes you got one stripe and crossed rifles where a PFC E2 was just one stripe. A full corporal was two stripes with crossed rifles and was an E4. Sergeants became E5s and Staff Sergeants became E6s etc.

  • @jmanil
    @jmanil2 жыл бұрын

    The salty LCPL taught me how to work hard and how to skate in the same breath when I was a Pvt. In the infantry, they were the smartest during field operations but in garrison they drank to much and we had a blast with them. Semper Fi to the LCPL.

  • @TomRobloxPo
    @TomRobloxPo3 жыл бұрын

    This was really educational

  • @windwulfboi
    @windwulfboi3 жыл бұрын

    Is it bad that I immediately saw Sean Bean’s Sharpe the moment I heard “Chosen Men”?

  • @wightguard1047
    @wightguard10473 жыл бұрын

    E-3. Lance Corporal. Best rank in the Marine Corps.

  • @misen794

    @misen794

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ha ha

  • @krane15

    @krane15

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not.

  • @williampierce4513

    @williampierce4513

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are not joking. No NCO responsibilites, but you get to tell boots what to do..

  • @tutelar5757

    @tutelar5757

    2 жыл бұрын

    Missed being a Lance Coconut, no responsibility, not picked for working parties, majority or all the time.

  • @gooner72
    @gooner722 жыл бұрын

    As an ex British soldier, I can tell you that Lance Jacks normally share command responsibility in a section, as section 2ic and are responsible for about 4 lads. Full screws are the next step up......🇬🇧🇺🇸✌✌

  • @ozzygrunt4812
    @ozzygrunt48123 жыл бұрын

    My first actual rank was LCPL, which was given to me within 12 months of completing my subject 1 CPL course. The subject 1 CPL course was pretty much the very first leadership course that junior ranks would experience in the Australian army. We had a course of about 80 soldiers, both male and female and it was an all corps course. The course was made up or field craft, leadership and discipline as well as drill. In an infantry battalion, the LCPL was used as the left and right markers on Battalion parades, which would guide the companies out on the Battalion parade ground in to formation which consisted of close to 700 soldiers and supporting staff. When a company deployed, the LCPL would be designated 2IC of a section “and the section commanders under study”, their main roll within a rifle section is to command the support team which consisted of the LCPL/GNR1/GNR2 with the LCPL having the M203 grenade launcher which would be used as a mini motor support element. He’s other tasks was to ensure the section had plenty of supplies I.e food,water,ammunition and reported back to the section commander CPL if any supplies was to be ordered in through the supply system.

  • @angelluisdevildog5926
    @angelluisdevildog59263 жыл бұрын

    The back bone of the Corps

  • @themastermason1

    @themastermason1

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know, Terminal Lance says Lance Corporals are the asshole of the Corps. Fucked raw in the dark and not a drop of lube in sight.

  • @krane15

    @krane15

    2 жыл бұрын

    A euphemism for work horse or beast of burden?

  • @pedenmk
    @pedenmk3 жыл бұрын

    Lance corporal. I was a lance cpl twice LOL finally made E 5 before leaving the good old usmc. GREAT program

  • @cameronyinger3621
    @cameronyinger36212 жыл бұрын

    Great timing, getting promoted to Lance Corpral in 2 days! 💪

  • @tanhelmet
    @tanhelmet3 жыл бұрын

    I was a Lance Corporal from Oct 1990- May 1993. Best job in the Marine Corps.

  • @andy_in_nh9243

    @andy_in_nh9243

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was a LCpl from Mar '88 to Oct '90.

  • @johnny6171
    @johnny61713 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding!

  • @gorillaguerillaDK
    @gorillaguerillaDK3 жыл бұрын

    As a former E4, I approve of this video…

  • @hellacoorinna9995

    @hellacoorinna9995

    3 жыл бұрын

    *Godfather theme begins to play*

  • @gorillaguerillaDK

    @gorillaguerillaDK

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hellacoorinna9995 🤣

  • @sunnyli2017

    @sunnyli2017

    3 жыл бұрын

    A fellow mafia man I see

  • @Thenlar
    @Thenlar3 жыл бұрын

    "Although many cite this as the beginning of the end for the Marine Lance Corporal, it wasn't truly the end; it just went a little *underground.*" I saw what you did there.

  • @KookieKatKid
    @KookieKatKid3 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes Lance Criminal or Lance Coconut. A rank that looks like Mosquito wings are having a sword fight with each other.

  • @Yvisa
    @Yvisa3 жыл бұрын

    Please setup an account so we can donate to you and whoever helps you make these videos. Extremely informative

  • @jaymuzquiz2942
    @jaymuzquiz29423 жыл бұрын

    I was a Lance Cooley.

  • @leonrobinson2053
    @leonrobinson20533 жыл бұрын

    Great video through

  • @Stephen8601
    @Stephen86013 жыл бұрын

    A very interesting bit of history. Good job done. That said, in both British and Commonwealth army Artillery Corps, the rank of L/Cpl and Cpl do not exist, rather are Lance Bombardier and Bombardier. The bottom rank in the British and Commonwealth Artillery is Gunner (Gnr). Interestingly, its the hardest rank to achieve and the easiest to lose, including in the US armed services.

  • @herbrice8933
    @herbrice89333 жыл бұрын

    Lance Criminals run the Corps.

  • @jackickes880
    @jackickes8803 жыл бұрын

    You should do a video about why some in the Army, Marines & Navy used to tilt their caps. I was always told it was the "salt dogs CAR".

  • @03Man11
    @03Man112 жыл бұрын

    There’s also the unofficial rank of “senior lcpl”, which I enjoyed very much. Basically enjoy the benefits of a cpl without the expectations and responsibilities. It’s a good time.

  • @geoffgill5334

    @geoffgill5334

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol except I had to borrow corporal chevron to drink at the nco club

  • @kennethhavelka3342
    @kennethhavelka33423 жыл бұрын

    Lance/Corporal 3 times, finally got it right

  • @CrowDawg11
    @CrowDawg11 Жыл бұрын

    "...it just went a little *underground*." I see what you did there, and I like it.

  • @conradlenin9190
    @conradlenin91903 жыл бұрын

    I had no idea about this history, thanks for the video!

  • @tmatt1999
    @tmatt19992 жыл бұрын

    I was a fire team leader as a lance corporal and when they saw that I could do the job, I was promoted to corporal. They waved E-5 in front of me trying to get me to reup but I got out.

  • @mdlmrc1051
    @mdlmrc10512 жыл бұрын

    I remember my LCPL promotion. It opened avenues.

  • @bugvswindshield
    @bugvswindshield3 жыл бұрын

    as a former Lance Cpl i was very interested.

  • @mikmik9034
    @mikmik9034 Жыл бұрын

    My understanding was a "Lance" was a rank occupied by an enlistedman NOT Paid. while a "Breviate" was an Officer occupying a higher rank NOT Paid.

  • @massmike11
    @massmike113 жыл бұрын

    Took me forever to break lance and get promoted to Cpl. job didn’t change any though.

  • @SuperSrjones

    @SuperSrjones

    3 жыл бұрын

    It took me 21 years to get to SGT But i was on the highest pay grade (group10) as an Aircraft tradesman and as an "All Trades" person (Electrical, Instrument , Radio, Engines and Airframe) I had an "extra" 10 days Annual Leave each year and flight duties pay as well, and Field Allowance when i went bush. So i was doing OK. PS when i went bush, the front seat in the plane next to the pilot was mine, i did not wander through the dirt and mud.

  • @MAC-co4cr

    @MAC-co4cr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep

  • @krane15

    @krane15

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@libertyman3729 You're stuck in the same environment, but you get to supervise the work.

  • @ljoe35
    @ljoe353 жыл бұрын

    I was one of the VERY LAST Corporals (2-Stripe). I believe I made it in early 1959. I was a 3061 / with Ration Platoon, AS&D Battalion, Force Troops, FMF, Camp Lejeune, NC. Pulled Duty NCO / Corporal of The Guard. I may still have the old 2 stripe collar rank. I came back in in February 1961, as a L/Cpl. - Semper Fi to all who wear Marine green, including our Corpsmen. 👍🇺🇸

  • @b.santos8804
    @b.santos88042 жыл бұрын

    Very fascinating video. Although I never served in the military (bad eyesight) I was always a nerd for rank tables and the origins of ranks, rank structures, and the names of ranks, many of which were archaic and no longer applied in our modern era. Thanks for this video!

  • @jeffyoung60

    @jeffyoung60

    9 ай бұрын

    I'm also a military rank nerd, even when it comes to foreign ranks which do not have counterparts in the United States. Have you ever heard of these ranks from different nations? Cornet, Senior Lieutenant, Senior Captain, Senior Colonel, Brigadier, Colonel General, among others. During WW2, the Imperial Japanese Army held two, captain ranks, one more senior than the other.

  • @b.santos8804

    @b.santos8804

    9 ай бұрын

    @@jeffyoung60 Yes, I've heard of most of those ranks. The German rank of Generaloberst is frequently translated into English as "Colonel General" because in German, "Oberst" means colonel. What it actually means is "Highest," like the German ranks of Leutnant and OberLeutnant, which are usually translated as Second and First Lieutenant, but really mean Lieutenant and "higher" Lieutenant. So Generaloberst actually means "Highest General." Also, "Cornet," which i believe comes from the age of horse cavalry, was a junior officer whose role it was to literally play the cornet (a trumpet-like instrument) which was important in signaling the maneuver that was desired. The rank of "Ensign," which in the USA is only in the US Navy, and is the lowest ranking commissioned officer, was also originally a junior officer whose role it was to have the care and custody of the ship's ensign, or flag(s). The rank of "Brigadier" is fairly intuitive, meaning "one who commands a brigade." In modern times, a "brigadier" is often considered a very junior form of a general, but in earlier times, he was more like a senior colonel, not afforded the same respect as a full General.

  • @jeffyoung60

    @jeffyoung60

    9 ай бұрын

    I believe brigadier general came before brigadier. The British and French had the rank of brigadier general, a commander of a infantry brigade back in the 18th century to the 20th century. Around the 1920s, the British Army decided the rank of brigadier general was either superfluous or redundant. A brigade should be commanded by a full colonel and the next higher formation, a division, should be commanded by a major general. The term, regiment, appears to be fluid, and could have been smaller or larger than a brigade, depending on the army and the time period. The British decided the rank of brigadier general should no longer be a flag officer rank and thus reduced it to, brigadier, which the Brits though was more flexible. A brigadier could command a brigade or a light division. Many other foreign armies agreed and eliminated the rank of brigadier general. Some armies, like the United States and Israel still maintain the rank of brigadier general. The U.S. Air Force, in particular, is enamored of the rank of brigadier general and frequently uses it. For the Russians, a brigadier to them would seem more like, 'senior colonel', a rank that was just above full colonel.@@b.santos8804

  • @FiskeWerks
    @FiskeWerks3 жыл бұрын

    The best line in 1917: “Now f.ck off Lance Corporal.” Lol

  • @scottfoster2639
    @scottfoster2639 Жыл бұрын

    I was so proud to have been a Lance Corporal, I was one twice!

  • @charlieyerrell9146

    @charlieyerrell9146

    Жыл бұрын

    Scott in the 2nd royal tank regiment in Libya in the early sixties we had a lance corporal called Jimmy Harris. He was busted so many times I suggested that he put his stripes on whith zippers so that he could take them off easily.

  • @jim-pauladams9194
    @jim-pauladams91943 жыл бұрын

    Corporal is the first rank of non commissioned officers throughout the entire Marine Corps. You don’t have to be in the infantry (0311) to be an NCO

  • @therond.patron4959
    @therond.patron49593 жыл бұрын

    I made Lcpl in 13 months and was room commander

  • @tonyparete6892
    @tonyparete68926 ай бұрын

    Fun fact: the first lance corporal who arrived at Camp Lejeune was subsequently ordered by his platoon sergeant to mop concrete for a whole weekend after having bought a Model T Ford at 25% APR.

  • @BrochachoEnchilada
    @BrochachoEnchilada3 жыл бұрын

    I hope soon you can do a video on Yugoslavian and post Yugoslavian orders of battle! I'm trying to track down sources myself right now to get a clear picture.

  • @danielc239
    @danielc2392 жыл бұрын

    You should do these sort of videos on Australia

  • @thiccfork8664
    @thiccfork86643 жыл бұрын

    Great video man! Would love a video on the squad organization of the Taiwanese armed forces

  • @SaturnCanuck
    @SaturnCanuck2 жыл бұрын

    That was very interesting

  • @imagecrafting
    @imagecrafting2 жыл бұрын

    love your work! but seeing how the Marines are a Dept. Of The Navy asset, I'd love to see a video on current Naval officer and enlisted ranks as they are so different from the other services. Keep up the great work and fly Navy!

  • @johntellerman

    @johntellerman

    2 жыл бұрын

    Marines are a department of the Navy all right, the MEN's DEPARTMENT!

  • @randalbuhler9042
    @randalbuhler9042 Жыл бұрын

    Even at 61 I'd re-up, and this time Mary the Corps to be a Lifer, Oorah Semper Fi , Carry On and Beyond 👍👍👍💥💯💯💯‼️‼️‼️

  • @farpointgamingdirect
    @farpointgamingdirect3 жыл бұрын

    Proud member of the USMC E-3 Mafia! 85-89

  • @tbob8212
    @tbob82122 жыл бұрын

    Terminal Lance Cooley here! July 1995 - May 1998. I didn't mind. I knew before I enlisted I was just going for the 4 year experience then rejoining the civilian world :)

  • @chuckhainsworth4801
    @chuckhainsworth48013 жыл бұрын

    There's a particular thrill that you get when you are first here your called during your very first promotion parade. I happened to have joined at a time when that happened for me at the last possible moment for that to be a Lance Jack promotion in Canada. The next promotion parade was all the current rank structure. It is an even odder feeling when one day you get a promotion to a rank you never heard of, which is pretty much what you've been doing for sometime, but makes you feel like you are skipping a rank.

  • @1337penguinman
    @1337penguinman3 жыл бұрын

    It's funny how the Navy and Coast Guard are the only branches that kept specialty as part of the rank, going as far as to make it part of the rank insignia even.

  • @dougearnest7590

    @dougearnest7590

    Жыл бұрын

    The army and the navy grew out of different traditions. If you gather men together for war on the ground, you organize them in the way that's needed to conduct combat ashore. On board ship, a man's primary identity is his job on the ship (Bosun's mate, carpenter's mate, etc) and the ship needs to be sailed regardless. Understanding this is the first step on the path to enlightenment in understanding rates and ratings.

  • @c1ph3rpunk
    @c1ph3rpunk2 жыл бұрын

    Worked with Lance for a bit, good dude.

  • @benjaminfrazier5419
    @benjaminfrazier5419 Жыл бұрын

    Knew it was British in origin, but not too much else.....great presentation and layout of one of my favorite ranks!!! I got out a sergeant, but enjoyed my time as a "lance coolie" in 2nd Tank Battalion!!!

  • @jamielancaster01
    @jamielancaster01 Жыл бұрын

    In the Army Grades E4 and E5 have the largest concentration of the enlisted force (22 and 20 percent, respectively).

  • @Fantazier1
    @Fantazier12 жыл бұрын

    I am non-military but I have always been interested in how the Arm Services rankings and promotions were accomplished. I found this very interesting. Of note I was very proud of my nephew, who in the US Army went from enlisted all the way to Major before he retired a couple of years ago.

  • @steventhorson4487
    @steventhorson4487 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome

  • @eshelly4205
    @eshelly4205 Жыл бұрын

    Best rank I had. I was a Sergeant when I was discharged but being a “Lance cookie” was the best. Most fun!

  • @krane15
    @krane152 жыл бұрын

    This was great. Can you do one on field promotions from enlisted to officer?

  • @MobiuSphere
    @MobiuSphere Жыл бұрын

    Made me smile when you said free war sergeants to captains. That's exactly what happened to my grandfather on Iwo Jima

  • @edmwolf86
    @edmwolf863 жыл бұрын

    Battle Order: The first rank of USMC Lance Corporal in the twentieth century came sometime around 1912 and makes its first appearance in that years uniform regulations. You are correct in that they wore just the single chevron originally (that we currently associate with the PFC rank) but, like the next iteration, the single chevron was also worn only on the right sleeve. At the time, it was also significantly smaller than the 8 inch wide dress chevrons of the other ranks, with the Lance chevron only 3.5 inches wide. In October 1917, the USMC created the Private First Class rank following the Army's lead. The original insignia for PFC was a pair of crossed rifles. In August of 1926 the PFC took over the single chevron and Lance Corporal began to wear the Corporal chevron (once again, only on the right side). By the time the 1931 Marine Corps Manual was published, the Lance Corporal rank had been abolished. It was revived officially in January 1959 in it's current form and has remained unchanged since.

  • @yvesst-aubin5529
    @yvesst-aubin552910 ай бұрын

    Great video! Question: Could it be possible to have a video in regards Medics (corpsmen?)? Thanks.

  • @swampybman7741
    @swampybman7741 Жыл бұрын

    In Nam E-3s were in charge of heavy equipment /weapons. As E-3 I was placed in charge of a helicopter UH-34. Position named as "Crew Chief". Armor and other heavy vehicles/weapons used the E-3 as entry into operating and responsible for the maintenance of said equipment. What I saw, E 4 was given to the "next man in line" promotion across the grade. Other words same time in. Sgt ( E5) came as a reward for re-enlisting unless there was a need for that rank overseas in country. That's how I saw it 1965-1969 USMC

  • @Imfil
    @Imfil Жыл бұрын

    Chosen Men! Thank you Sharpe for letting me know that!

  • @tykit9230
    @tykit92303 ай бұрын

    Spent 2 years as a Lance coolie. By the time I made Corporal, I had already been Corporal of the guard for several months and we had Corporals that were Sgt's of the guard, then we all got promoted so it worked out.

  • @Seven_Craig
    @Seven_Craig Жыл бұрын

    I was an 0311 SL in the MC back in the mid 90s. We trained our sr. Lance Corporals to know the job of the squad leader and jr. Lance Corporals to know the job of team leader. I looked at all of my lances as leaders and they performed like masters of their craft. Semper Fi! 1/6 HARD!

  • @netsat8977
    @netsat89774 ай бұрын

    My grandpa was discharged as an E3 Corporal in the 50s. This was during the discontinuation of LCpl.