Check Out Alton's Take on this: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y5yBsc-afJuWmqQ.htmlsi=imAFVNZtt4vCvTVs Also, Tom from Tus says that they will be sent replacement dials once produced. After that, they can forward the new dials on to those who have bought them, or they can swap the dial out for you. Still waiting to see if you can send these directly to an Orient Service center.

@halfpastblog

10 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot for sharing the link, my friend. 🙏

@vincebrickner5529

10 ай бұрын

Not sure why I'm not able to comment on any of these anymore it'll let me comment here or do a reply but it won't let me comment on your video strange.

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

@@vincebrickner5529 that one came through. It won't let you comment normally?

@halfpastblog

10 ай бұрын

@@RelativeTime I had to close the ap to comment. Bit glitchy

@vincebrickner5529

10 ай бұрын

@@RelativeTime Yes that's correct I had to go through the reply to be able to comment. Very strange I used to be able to comment Don't know if it's on my end or what. Thanks for letting me know you got it have a great day and by the way watch It's too small for me My my Ray and my mako and kamasu Are right at my limit.

They wanted to show they're part of the Seiko group, but didn't want to copy the misaligned bezels. They wanted their own screw-up.

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

LOL could be.

@LKRM8863

8 ай бұрын

😆😆😆😆

@kostar500

4 ай бұрын

I will give you 5000 points for this comment. Count it now.

@aldob5681

Ай бұрын

Marketing trick?

Most decent detailed beautiful camera shots. Im deeply impressed. Keep on!!! Thank you for this!!

Nice review Shane. I appreciate your consistent coverage of Orient (and recognition of Alton’s criminally underrated channel)- you put me onto the brand when I was getting into the hobby

Purple Orient looks awesome. Great review as always.

if this happened on a rolex it would have a premium price tag on collector market

It's a very nice watch. I have the old orange bezel Mako XL, great watch, also no lume pip. Of course at 44.5mm it's more suitable for my 8.1" wrist. I di like the dials on these and if they fix the dial and the price drops a bit, I'd get one. Thanks for the great review Shane.

Very tempted to buy this one, when alignment issues are fixed.

I like it Shane I think the bezel and no crown guards give it a fresh look I'm going to get one just not sure what colour yet

At first I was horrified of the print mistake. But now I kind of love it. If I'd buy one, I'd look for one with the misprint.

Been very tempted by the salmon dial, and the purple.

Hello ~. Just subbed because you’re a really good speaker and knowledgeable. Solid microphone. Good background. Great voice and interaction with the camera.

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

Thanks and welcome to the channel. Takes a bit of time to put these together, but I enjoy it.

No kidding, I want this WITH the misprint!!! It just adds character and gives you something to talk about. My dilemma is wait for it to drop to $200 and possibly miss out on a misprint dial, or get it now at an inflated price just to ensure I get the bad dial???? I’ll likely wait.

@unaibb

10 ай бұрын

Me tooo

@arifsevimli4324

5 ай бұрын

I had exactly the same tought it would be a great conversation starter and different from all other watches.

I could live with the dial misprint but now that you've pointed out the strap size issue, I can't help focusing on that! Maybe a tapered rubber or leather strap would improve the look.

Yeah I noticed the misaligned marker on the dial. Got the salmon 🍣 dial! Looking stunning in person. Still debating if I should return it. Also the water resistant on dial very hard to read and is of different font size that the word Automatic. And last the description in their website says the crystal is mineral but yet when I received my it comes with sapphire tag on the strap. 🤷🏽

These might become collectibles for people who like minting errors in their coins. Still a great looking watch and no one will notice except the wearer. Seiko can't line up it's bezels, this is no big deal. Great review as always. 🙂

When they fix the minute track I'll grab one of these in their soft purple

Thank you for your quality video. with this watch orange nylon strap is nice. It was a good sens of you.

@RelativeTime

Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Not much a fan of semi-skeletonized hands and steel bezels (although this dark blue goes remarkably well with leather), but i like that Orient finally released a smaller diver. Never had a problem with the Kamasu II in my skinny wrist, but i always welcome a smaller case diameter.

If these get discounted in a few months I'll absolutely buy one

I really like the stainless bezel. I’d probably over look the 26 minute marker.

I got this watch about a week ago from eBay for £200. I rushed into buying it just because of the 26th-second error. Now I have a special watch not only a Mako 40.

this batch of mako sports would be a collector's item for fans of this watch in the long run

Got mine recently and the first thing I did was taking the bracelet off and put on a diver strap. Mine is also a deep blue dial.

Rumor has it that the guy who worked at Seiko and was responsible for misaligned bezels got transferred over to Orient.

I think this is a really pretty watch, and you can choose between interesting color schemes

I genuinely like the watch. I don’t mind the misprint. When prices come down, it’s a definite future addition. Love my Kamasu 2 (round indices), but I always wished it was a little smaller. Great review as always. Thanks.

Once they fix the dial - the white version will be mine. I love the look! Thanks for the heads up!

@raeyadmasu1590

2 ай бұрын

Have you bought it yet and if so, have they fixed the error?

@taylorcrook144

Ай бұрын

I just bought the "white" dial version directly from Orient and the misprint has been fixed. I love the watch overall but as stated in the video the bracelet has a very cheap feel and the lume is disappointing.@@raeyadmasu1590

The spacing of the 33 marker is off too.

@P_Ezi

10 ай бұрын

It does look off. Very strange.

@jamesR1990

10 ай бұрын

​@@P_Eziit is misprinted. They already admitted it

Love ur review big bro ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I'm m going to have to pick up a few more kamasus and a couple of seikos before getting into this.

Orient has a way with dark blue. I have had the Ray and Ray II, both in blue. The blue of the original Ray was even deeper and responded even more dramatically to direct sunlight than the Ray II.

@drewgarrison2145

10 ай бұрын

I have the Ray in blue. Always getting complements. Wish this one had a slightly tapered bracelet like he said.

I so want one with the stuff-up.

I'm not too fussed by the misprint. This watch makes me hope Orient releases a Kamasu or Mako with a stainless steel bezel insert; I like that look, but I generally prefer my diver's to be slightly larger.

Yeah, I saw Alton's review and couldn't believe that dial error. It is a beautiful color of blue. I'm not surprised by the bracelet, but the poor lume is really disappointing.

Thanks for the shout out! And thanks for the video for my video. Another great video. 👍👍👍

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

No problem. I'm honestly not sure I would of noticed it if you hand't of said something.

@larrydalton2205

10 ай бұрын

Agree, it would have been easy to miss the flaw and then catch it after publishing the review. Good job, Eagle Eye Alton!

I don't own any Orients, but that error issue makes me want to get one.

Thank you for the review, I would purchase this automatic device , however, for the price Orient is selling the least they could have done : add transparent case back- to observe the mechanical movement, they did not?!? Who is in charge of the design there?

It’s a nice one for sure. But waiting for that price to cool down a bit.

A cockup is as good as a limited addition. Or maybe they just wanted to be a little more like Seiko. I have a few with chapter rings that don't line up or even miss constantly.

It seems a master marketing move, so ALL watch youtubers are talking about, and lot of people interested in this missprint dials, including me. BTW, I love the look of this Mako and the SS bezel

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

Could be. Or it might be with the next release. Seems a lot of people are looking at this like a collector's item... so maybe they will do it again.

I've a Kamasu teal one.. dial is quite similar yet different.. without day window mako 40 has more simple dial, and bezel on kamasu is dark colour whereas mako 40 has silver brushed look..

Funny, I thought the glaring mistake was that no part of the bezel has lume, so it can't be used for timing anything underwater or in the dark. Thanks for your great reviews Shane, I always look forward to them 🐵

@MikeSmith-er1qs

10 ай бұрын

What are you timing in the dark???😜😎

@sneak880

10 ай бұрын

It's a dive style watch, not a dive watch 😊

@MikeSmith-er1qs

10 ай бұрын

@@sneak880 that doesn’t negate the point that he made and that in this style watch you expect and want great lume.

Great looking Orient! (Apart from the design hiccup.) And I have to say that I LOVE the simple date at the 3 o'clock, which is where it should be. So many Orients and Seikos clutter their dials with day-date complications.

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

I really liked having a day date at first, but as I've gotten my collection (and experience level) has grown I appreciate a cleaner look more.

@user-nb8qu9zo2j

4 ай бұрын

What do you think about this with jeans and a tee shirt? ​@@RelativeTime

@RelativeTime

4 ай бұрын

@@user-nb8qu9zo2j should be perfect for it.

It's beautiful

Thank you very much for reviewing. ♥ I was thinking about getting this watch to use and abuse at work, as it involves truck driving and outside activity in sometimes not the most favourable conditions. For me the pros is the perfect size 40mm, stainless steel bezel that wont become unlegible if scratched up, no crown guards for easy manipulation of crown, and a very legible dial. Cons are as usual the horrible clasp, and the misprinted dial, what a disaster.

I never swap bracelets but this one needs a rubber strap or a retro looking leather strap. Great review.

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Nice watch, when does the half price sale start?

It is perfect!

There was some nice straps in there too. Maybe a strap review might be an idea for a future production..

@RelativeTime

5 ай бұрын

I've thought about it, maybe even do a State of the Strap Collection.

Those purple and salmon dials are amazing. If anything the mistake is going to make these more desirable as people want to get the "26s" before they're fixed.

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

I was really temped by the purple. It looked great.

Don't care much of any issues this has, the lilah dial they made is surely one of the best i've seen in a long time... Cheers Shane, thanks for the review.

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

I was really tempted to get that one, but I thought more people would want to see a review of the blue.

@lormitto

10 ай бұрын

I want this one but it is nowhere to be found at this point

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

@@lormitto i think Orient has stopped shipping new ones until the get the dials sorted. So availability may be hit or miss for a while.

It looks like they fixed the one thing I don't like about my Kamasu, even though, with an unpainted bezel insert, it wasn't really necessary. The crystal sits higher than the bezel. I wear my Kamasu a lot and the insert shows it because everything that touches the watch winds up damaging the paint on the insert. All the paint on the entire inside of the bezel has gone now and turned to dull aluminium.

I can't unsee that minute-track error now. Its so wild. What I wonder now is if getting one of the flawed ones will make it collectable long run, lol, as noted by TUS.

@chrispekel5709

10 ай бұрын

It will

@tiagodvt

10 ай бұрын

It is an Orient. It will never be more collectable or more valuable because of that imo.

@chrispekel5709

10 ай бұрын

@@tiagodvt You're making the mistake of thinking that things stay the same

This makes me want it....

The appearance of a watch is often not its absolute weak point; the key lies in the type of movement used by the watchmaker. The deviations in appearance are often a unique feature. If it were up to me, I would choose it.

I cannot believe that dial defect made it to production!

I'll stick with my SanMartin thnx. Thanks for the review.

I wish they did an orange version

Note that the minute track spacing from 33-34 is also a bit too wide. 2 mistakes on the minute track. Weird. The design choice that I would change is the wide bracelet. I have a Hydroconquest, and while it is a great watch, the constant width bracelet really holds it back for me. I have been wearing it on a blue rubber strap for the past several years and I really prefer the look over that of the wide bracelet.

Orient is my favourite watch brand. Good design, good movements, good features the only issue I have with them is the sizing but i'm sure thats no problem for the average wrist.

@RelativeTime

Ай бұрын

Are you looking for smaller?

@-BlueX

Ай бұрын

@@RelativeTime well I already got a mako 3 and its nice. I'm aware of the Mako sport.

Gen 1 mis-prints sometimes turn out to be collectible and valuable down the road 😁

@felipec2157

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I hope so. Still debating whether to return my back.

@KC-bv9kf

10 ай бұрын

@@felipec2157don’t return it. Anyone can find a normal one. This is unique. I’ll buy it from you if you don’t want to keep it.

@Noid1220

7 ай бұрын

@@happydogg312it’s not defective

Doood - this is cleary the work of a viral marketing mastermind 😊👌! I so much want this Mako-with-the-flaw, before you were mentioning the lume, anyway 😄. But then again - for a fair discount 🤔!? Chuck Norris approved 👊, yo!

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

It could be. Or they may do it again because of the response. From now on every orient will have a misprinted first run.

@gopherproxy

10 ай бұрын

@@RelativeTime Ha! Which will make the flawless pieces unique again! Even more genius 😄👊! You're gettin' the hang of it 😆🤟!

I really like the dial misprint and all. Not to keen on the bezel. I think it would look great as a dress watch

I'm pretty sure someone seppuku'd at Orient. I'm also pretty sure this faulty dial will become legendary and there will be a "reissues" of this classic.

Another excellent review, really odd error for an established Japanese Watchmaker; pass out the kubuki knives

They’re testing the water. Trying to see if they can get away with obvious qc misalignments like Seiko.

I like the white dial, I think I could deal with it

If they quickly remedy this which I think they will I can envision collectors saying " I want the quirky first release with the defective dial indices"

I wonder. Sometimes in the coin world, when the Mint produces a coin with an error, it becomes more collectible, and commands a premium in terms of price. Perhaps this may occur regarding this watch.

I really do not mind this 26th minute marker, I even like it for some reason no matter my OCD. 😁 If the price gets much lover because of this I will buy it. 😃

@williamdelmar3964

10 ай бұрын

My OCD is the opposite, I see it and cannot forget it.

no way the misprint was unintentional. so many departments (dial production, quality control, photographers…) missed this? they know what they are doing. wouldn’t even wonder if they‘d make it a signature thing.

@RelativeTime

6 ай бұрын

That would be intersting. Suposedly it's fixed now, but we will see if it happens again on their next release.

ORIENT is great value!!!!

Hi Shane, titanium seems to be getting some attention recently because it is used on the new iPhone Pro but tech reviewers know nothing about titanium. Personally from my limited exposure to watch, I realise they may be more prone to scratches. What do you think? If you could make a video sharing your knowledge on use of titanium on watch and how it may fare on an expensive phone, I think that would be a great video. Just a suggestion....

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

Great suggestion, I don't have a lot of extra time over the next few months, but I'll see what I can do. From what I remember, the wear issue with titanium isn't that is easier to scratch. It's that the oxidized surface layer takes on a slightly different color than what's just underneath it... So when the oxidized layer gets scratched (removed) it's much more obvious. Steel does the same thing, but the oxidized layer has a similar look so it's harder to tell. I read Apple is using a grade 5 titanium, which is good. As well as a brushed finish which should reduce the visibility of scratches. Although personally, I think it's a little gimmicky, the frequency that people upgrade their phones why waste titanium on that.

Beautiful Orient!!

I love Orient and this surprised me when I first found out....luckily before I got one of these. Still I know they will fix it. They are a top flight company.

I recently picked up the Orient Mini Triton/Baby Neptune, I really like it, looks like you haven’t reviewed it?

@RelativeTime

3 ай бұрын

No never did. I reviewed the original, and it looked pretty similar. Just missing the power reserve. So wasn't sure if I needed to.

@Intelligence3

3 ай бұрын

@@RelativeTime No big deal, just was curious what your take was. I’ll look for that. Part of what I wanted to know was the differences from the daddy Neptune/Triton, so that’s helpful.

@RelativeTime

3 ай бұрын

@@Intelligence3 I think the big change was because orient wants to make the power reserve indicator and orient star exclusive. So that was taken out, and they removed the ISO rating on the water resistance. Plus added some more colors. How you enjoying it?

@Intelligence3

3 ай бұрын

@@RelativeTime I really like it. I am not a huge fan of day/date on contemporary designs so I had resisted the other models and this one grabbed me. Apart from the truly-absurd endlinks I really find it well-made and there’s a nice individual character to it, the edges are rounded and “softer” than most dive watches, giving it a really comfortable everyday feel and making it wear well for the size. I like the blunted deep bezel serrations a lot and the way the bezel is matched to the slope of the case is really attractive. I have the green one and the color is marvelous. Caseback isn’t too deep, which I commonly dislike on dive watches, so it feels like it wears closer to the wrist. I’m going to try the Mako 40 next now that it’s showing up again. If you want to borrow this I’d be happy to lend it.

Why there is no lumepip on the bezel?

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

Who knows.... Kind of strange for Orient to leave that off.

My attitude about it is that on a watch like that, because it's not a chronometer, and not a chronograph, and it's going to be off by 3-4 minutes per month (all of my Orients - slow), seconds are purely decorative artwork anyway, and minutes are approximate. I would say they should own that fact and go ahead and hand-paint the seconds on the dial to begin with :P.

I loved the design and wanted one, but I'm glad I searched for reviews... Do you think they'll produce another revised version down the line with the fix for new buyers? How much time are thinking about here? Sorry, I'm very new to watches, I wanted a diving one, and this one had a good look for the price!

Does it still have the Orient Wobble Crown?

@P_Ezi

10 ай бұрын

Vostok?

If it was the same on the 34 minute marker at least the dial would be symmetrical 😂 I think a mountain is being made of a molehill here, More fuss than when Rolex put two 9s on that Airking.😱

someone mentioned it appears the tristar line no longer appears on their website...

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

Which website? Orient Japan is typically the most accurate. orient-watch.jp/ Some of the other regional ones are run by distributors and not Orient themselves.

It will be perfect if they made tapered bracelet from 20-17mm

Can you please let me know the model of the strap used at 2:25 Thank you !

@RelativeTime

Ай бұрын

I belive that's a Ritche Nylon Strap. I might have a link in the description or just look for them on amazon. Otherwise I think Barton or Blushark make a simmilar strap.

@vince5740

Ай бұрын

Yes i didn’t notice in the description ! Thank you for your answer.

It is great looking, and dial "blunder" isn't deal breaker.... I have seen it going for 235 € - so 255 $, in violet/apricot (well - leather strap) and I am going to get one... and siceit is Orient, I will get it in 2 weeks time to 3 s/day accuracy - and no other brand can offer such precision without price multiplied by 5...

The poor lume and no pip is the deal breaker for me. The dial error is no big deal to me.

The reason why it’s a bit off might be that the hour markers on 6-9 and 12 are fatter than the rest but it’s just my observation.🤔

Do dial misprints increases price?

@RelativeTime

8 ай бұрын

Not always. In the long run, it always comes down to a combination of rarity and demand for price.

Does misalignment mess up with time accuracy?

@RelativeTime

7 ай бұрын

Only if you happen to set the watch at that specific misalginment point. Otherwise, nope.

Mmm... That mistake makes it just a little bit special. Now I really want one. AAARGH!!!

the 33 minute marker looks off as well

Heads are gonva ROLL at Orient! Someone's gotta commit sepuku for this 😂😂😂

And what about the 32-33 min markers? (actually it's the 33) Doesn't anyone see that they are also too close together?!

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

There may be a little more of a gap there, but might be the camera angle. I'll have to take a closer look in person.

The metal bezel strikes me as more tool watch than dressy, i guess.

In a way this mistake benefits me, as now I have time to put money aside for the purple version!

In Orient dive watch nothing beat the kamasu with a strapcode jubilee bracelet. If Orient know for quality begin to know QC issues like Seiko, since they are both compagny under Epson compagny, with price inflation it is not good for future. Hope I am wrong.

man that is almost an exact copy of the alpina alpiner 4

When i buy orient or low end seiko i look at them like distressed denim the flaws are part of the design

@RelativeTime

10 ай бұрын

That's a good way of looking at it.

At a good price, this flaw wouldn't put me off getting the watch. Quite the opposite - it will stimulate its easier finding at a good price (second hand).