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Orange OR-120 Vs Marshall Super Lead

I'm comparing two timeless rigs in this video: A 1975 Orange OR-120 and a 1976 Marshall Super Lead. I'm using a 1973 Gibson Les Paul Custom.
I borrowed the Orange rig from Simon Karlsson and it's actually currently for sale in his store Musikbörsen Gothenburg, goteborg@musikborsen.se

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  • @daltonmcswain5084
    @daltonmcswain50842 ай бұрын

    The OR just has a chunk and a danger to it that the Marshall doesn't have. I lost it when he whipped out that Venom- Welcome To Hell riff at 4:08 on the Orange

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Cheers

  • @kesamek8537

    @kesamek8537

    2 ай бұрын

    I like to think he was snarling and wagging his tongue around like Cronos for that riff.

  • @hyperluminalreality1

    @hyperluminalreality1

    2 ай бұрын

    At 4:20 then again at 4:40 John plays the chord progression you mistake for Welcome to Hell. Two figures of what resembles WTH but at standard pitch. Then two figures of higher chords while still chunking the A string, that do not resemble WTH. In my opinion this is not WTH that John played. Does John even listen to Venom? It sounds like some Ace Frehley open A with the bent 4ths added in. Cronos?!?! More like Mantas...who just had a heart attack

  • @daltonmcswain5084

    @daltonmcswain5084

    2 ай бұрын

    @@hyperluminalreality1 sorry, I'm not reading all of that.

  • @tyroneenglish8396
    @tyroneenglish83962 ай бұрын

    Whenever Johan does a video with Orange amps! It’s the most important thing he does. 🍊♥️🍊

  • @DMSProduktions

    @DMSProduktions

    2 ай бұрын

    Yummy!

  • @SCOTT-ki3ve

    @SCOTT-ki3ve

    2 ай бұрын

    Marshall's are great but man Orange is the sound of hard rock in MY head. That's it

  • @BigTrouble324
    @BigTrouble3242 ай бұрын

    Can't say I prefer one over another. Both of them sounds excellent. Great amps!

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @danielakerman8241
    @danielakerman82412 ай бұрын

    Still prefer the Marshall. Despite what advantages the Orange circuit may provide, the Marshall sound is the sound that moves me.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Daniel

  • @jessedelaney77
    @jessedelaney772 ай бұрын

    Post 1974 Orange OR120’s have some truly bizarre things going on in the circuit. There’s heavy filtering of treble before the first triode, and the phase inverter setup is odd too. Mike Soldano used to fix these up and mod Oranges as well. I did the mods explained on the Orange Amps Field Guide and it’s made a massive difference. Takes it back to the early first version and it’s a huge improvement.

  • @NYCguitarist
    @NYCguitarist2 ай бұрын

    The orange mids! I love that about them

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah great mids, the tone is more up front than the Marshall

  • @DanTheDiggler

    @DanTheDiggler

    2 ай бұрын

    Agree. Perhaps a bit thin/nasal at times.. but maybe thats a good thing in a mix.

  • @hyperluminalreality1
    @hyperluminalreality12 ай бұрын

    Schematics would show the differences that matter. The Orange has a Baxandall style tone stack and not the Fender style tone stack as used in Marshall amps. Baxandall is the old HiFi circuit used in many guitar amps like Ampeg and Gibson. The Orange also has a switchable coupling cap on the preamp output, so you can dial in the amount of bottom end reaching the power amp section. Orange wins here. Almost makes the Marshall sound out of phase with itself. Thanks John.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks! I also preferred the Orange here.

  • @singersonspeakerphone2421

    @singersonspeakerphone2421

    2 ай бұрын

    IMO Orange wins on the lower strings and Marshall wins on the higher

  • @kennethday9747

    @kennethday9747

    2 ай бұрын

    Correction, Fender 5f6 cathode follower Tweed bassman fender circuit Nothing like brown, blackface or newer fender circuits. I prefer cathode follower circuit over orange style circuit. Has more focus. The 444 55 hrts. Cone in orange cabinet were the low mids you liked. But not as tight and focused and 1959 circuit.

  • @pomod
    @pomod2 ай бұрын

    I don't now man, its hard to top that Superlead.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @kevinmurtagh4996
    @kevinmurtagh49962 ай бұрын

    I’m hearing more of an upper-midrange presence in the Orange, and more of a lower-mids guttural kind of thing from the Marshall. Both sound absolutely amazing. I’m sure you could tweak both to sound almost identical to the other, especially through the same cab. Amazing as usual, Johan!

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Kevin, glad to hear that!

  • @eyedunno8462

    @eyedunno8462

    2 ай бұрын

    Hearing the exact opposite to your observations

  • @slavkomakarovski1158
    @slavkomakarovski11582 ай бұрын

    I go for Marshall and only one reason ☝️, it has a guts like a monster compared to the orange, but that orange does deliver fantastic sound too, but no body compared to S.lead and my opinion is depends on who likes what?? 🙌

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @petert7449
    @petert74492 ай бұрын

    Wow Incredible sound on both amps, your comparison wants me to get both amps with the cabs setup. Incredible thanks Johan for a great video

  • @bb_lz9790
    @bb_lz97902 ай бұрын

    My ears preferred the Orange, but the Marshall sounded great too! I still have vivid and fond memories of the first time I saw real-live Marshall and Orange amps that the store. The Orange was in St. Louis, Missouri when visiting family, the Marshall was at a store near my home in Michigan. Both in the mid '70s. Oh and the smell of a new Marshall!!! Better than new-car smell!!! Thanks for sharing this video!

  • @gib412
    @gib4122 ай бұрын

    For this comparison, I am really liking the Orange better.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @aaronsg71
    @aaronsg712 ай бұрын

    I need both of them!!!! Both sound great, thx for your demo! I wish you could have played them both together

  • @user-ws6sf4cl9o
    @user-ws6sf4cl9o2 ай бұрын

    One amp i would love to here is a WEM Dominator ..turned up with its natural overdrive !

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi I have a bunch of videos on that one if you browse the channel!

  • @user-ws6sf4cl9o

    @user-ws6sf4cl9o

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Johan !

  • @narvul
    @narvul2 ай бұрын

    Great review as always, Johan. I know that the SM57 is about the most used microphone for amping speakers but it does give a certain kick to the sound just as speakers do. My last band our sound guy started me with a SM57 combined with poor mic placing. We changed it to a Sennheiser E906 and later a combination of the two when we had more time to test and after I changed the stock V30 to a Cannabis Rex 12.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Yeah Sennheiser and Shure is a great combo

  • @jarikoskenniska299
    @jarikoskenniska2992 ай бұрын

    This stops all my relaxing weekend! ...Review very detailed as usual, Love the focused Orange rough sound putting the rythm riffs at the right place! ...Cant never deny the Super Lead that has a massive width of the sound, ...A perfect combination set for a band with two guitarists! ...Johan, you play those blues riffs like masked New-Yorkers! 2:27 ...Hahahahaa!!!

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks! 😁

  • @thechrisricci
    @thechrisricci2 ай бұрын

    Johann makes all the amps sound great. These were perfect 70's-early 80's heavy metal tones.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Chris!

  • @mitchellfrey
    @mitchellfrey2 ай бұрын

    All I know is that they would sound amazing together 🤤

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah that would sound huge

  • @pCeLobster
    @pCeLobster2 ай бұрын

    I love Orange but I preferred the Marshall here. If you go in the bathroom and turn the shower on, it's the Marshall that cuts better and is more audible overall.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Cool, interesting!

  • @GenXtra65
    @GenXtra652 ай бұрын

    Love the subtleties in your adjustments through the demo showing the Orange can be brightened and the Marshall darkened, but each retains its character. They are colors on a palette. Tools. Both awesome. In a nutshell Marshall cuts and sits on top. Orange works better with music styles that allow it to have its own space inside the mix. Orange does lots of things well but needs tweaked. Marshall does one thing extremely well and other things OK. I have both and love both. Thanks for another great comparison!

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks great feedback

  • @aminahmed2220
    @aminahmed22202 ай бұрын

    Absolutely fantastic have a wonderful weekend ❤😊

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks you too! ❤️

  • @batman9592
    @batman95922 ай бұрын

    I'm not afraid to admit i like 444 cones and V30s. Thanks for the tip about not putting 120w through small cabs. Looks at 80s Peavey Triumph 120 combo... Have a good weekend everybody 🍻

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Have a great weekend you too!

  • @adamwatson6916

    @adamwatson6916

    2 ай бұрын

    Not sure why anyone would be afraid to admitt they like 444 cones. Neret heard of it being some sort of taboo . Liking 444 cones is quite common .

  • @brucek2946
    @brucek29462 ай бұрын

    The Orange has More Head Room and Marshall has the SWEET Sustain !!! .. I love both

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Bruce

  • @kyrenide
    @kyrenide2 ай бұрын

    Johan thank you so much for your comments at the end, we all value your informed opinion, really appreciate it :) Greetings from Canada!

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks flad to hear it! Cheers

  • @vannmagruder9038
    @vannmagruder90382 ай бұрын

    I love that orange tone! I’d wanna hear it with various boosts

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks! That can be arranged later on

  • @vannmagruder9038

    @vannmagruder9038

    2 ай бұрын

    @@JohanSegeborn I will absolutely watch that

  • @FabrizioCalderara76
    @FabrizioCalderara762 ай бұрын

    Surprisingly, the SL sounds fuller to my ears, compared to the OR 120.

  • @cornfilledscreamer614
    @cornfilledscreamer6142 ай бұрын

    Orange sounds great, but I think I'm a little more partial to the Marshall in this one.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Glad you like them

  • @vintagetone22
    @vintagetone222 ай бұрын

    This is a huge amp in volume and tone.🙏⚘👍👍👍great demo my friend.❤🎸🎸👍👍

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Many thanks!!

  • @monkeyplusplus
    @monkeyplusplus2 ай бұрын

    Great comparison! One of the gnarliest guitar tones I've heard was a biamped setup with an Orange Terror Bass and a 5150. In the lineage of these two, though I know they're distant cousins. But I bet these two would sound great together as well.

  • @mca1960
    @mca19602 ай бұрын

    I had a ORANGE OR-120 for several years, it was from 1976, but I sold it.

  • @petebrown6204
    @petebrown62042 ай бұрын

    I'm always intriugued by how long it takes my perception to adjust between sounds when hearing two amps, or two pedals or two guitars, or whatever, compared side by side. Here I was find I loved the sound of the OR, then the Marshall sounded less pleasant by comparison, but then I kind of tuned in to the Marshall sound and loved that and then didn't like the OR when the amp switched again... Interesting the way the brain works. I love both these amps. I'm a Marshall guy at heart and always come back to Marshalls, but not sure how much of that is psychological... Fabulous video Johan! Thanks.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Pete! Yeah tone is indeed relative to what it is presented together with. I’m not even sure I’d be able to tell which one a specific sample is if can’t here both. Cheers

  • @popeye089
    @popeye0892 ай бұрын

    Both are great, the Orange has a little more of the modern gain sound and a bit nasally but the Marshall has that classic gain that is the “sound” of classic rock a little brighter, tighter and in your face. Both are great in their own right. I’m a Marshall Black Flag man myself. JTM50 ✊🏼

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks man! Black flags are beasts in the best possible sense of the word!

  • @ramilrodriguez8340
    @ramilrodriguez83402 ай бұрын

    The orange sounds tighter on the low end and sweeter on the top which translates into a more mid focused tone, very strong midrange. The marshall sounds looser on the bottom with extended highs which makes it sound more open and even when the bass is bigger, it sounds much brighter. Both sound great. The orange sounds meaner, more aggressive and punchier to me where the marshall sounds more hollow compered to. That said, I like both.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks interesting feedback!

  • @ianorourke6320
    @ianorourke63202 ай бұрын

    Both are great. Marshall has the power

  • @DMSProduktions

    @DMSProduktions

    2 ай бұрын

    Yoo down't knoow tha powah...

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Ian!

  • @kuitaristi3003
    @kuitaristi30032 ай бұрын

    That orange sounds pretty good!

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Glad to hear it!

  • @coreyrini550
    @coreyrini5502 ай бұрын

    Dude you literally have the coolest stuff I've ever seen or heard! If Buddha came down from heaven and asked if I wanted the or120 or that 100 w Hiwatt... I'd probably have to flip a coin... As crazy as this sounds I'm getting pretty darn close to the Hiwatt with the modified Marshall hybrid. 100w slaved to an or micro terror... Those old orange amps just sound so freaking good though! I'm a 90s child so this is well before my time, but that one MC5 concert ( i think it's in Germany circa 1971) w/ Wayne Kramer running into a cranked or120 is like my dream tone!

  • @siegfriedwashburn3484
    @siegfriedwashburn34842 ай бұрын

    Hi, Johan! Anyway, I heard a Marshall sound blind. Orange sounds more like Rolland type, but if I could pick my strat to the stage amp, I am ready for everything!😊 Have a nice weekend!

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Have a nice weekend!

  • @GoDrex
    @GoDrex2 ай бұрын

    Hearing both like this.... I can't decide and I'd play them both together 🤘

  • @Tonneback
    @Tonneback2 ай бұрын

    Marshall and Orange my two favourite brands

  • @simonmastromatteo5692
    @simonmastromatteo56922 ай бұрын

    The Orange sounds like Sabbath to me... but the Marshall took it for this one. Nothing like the bark and the fizz

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @victorbeebe8372
    @victorbeebe83722 ай бұрын

    Aloha Johan. Yes I'll take one of each.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Aloha Victor!

  • @michel_che_airlines9420
    @michel_che_airlines94202 ай бұрын

    Wah! Or120 incredible!

  • @Plumcraziness
    @Plumcraziness2 ай бұрын

    I liked the Orange for its presence and articulation, and the Marshall for its bottom end girth and saturation. I think I slightly preferred the Orange more, but they're both basically 1a and 1b in my opinion. Both great tones, just in different ways.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Glad to hear it

  • @Plumcraziness

    @Plumcraziness

    2 ай бұрын

    @@JohanSegeborn So was I! 😄 I bet the Orange would sound a little more similar played through a cabinet loaded with Celestion G 12-65s. It might fill in some of the low end and shift the midrange a little lower. Might make an interesting test or comparison. Cheers.

  • @CBGypsy03
    @CBGypsy032 ай бұрын

    Going 🍊 here. Both are killer 😊

  • @marteredes
    @marteredes2 ай бұрын

    I might be used to it or something, but my ears say "tank you" every time you go back to the marshal, despite the orange is a very good sounding amp.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @rocketpigrecords3719
    @rocketpigrecords37192 ай бұрын

    They're very different. On Oranges, I typically can't get them to cut, but the thickness is nice. Very, very hazy 70s. Iirc Captain Beyond had a Marshall player and another guy with an Orange. Very distinctive from each other, and huge sounding in unison.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah the orange has a fuller middier tone

  • @niasboiii
    @niasboiii2 ай бұрын

    Own OR120 myself. This thing cranked is just so creamy and fuzzy. I adore it. But somehow I am currently looking into getting a Marshall amp.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah they complement each other nicely

  • @FleshOnGear

    @FleshOnGear

    2 ай бұрын

    My Marshall is sweeter and my Orange is rougher. I love them both.

  • @znmcg

    @znmcg

    2 ай бұрын

    Got a or120 and 50 watt 1987s, yes that’s a S, not X. Gotta catch em all

  • @Twobarpsi
    @Twobarpsi2 ай бұрын

    Nothing beats a Marshall 🤘!!

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Cheers!

  • @Twobarpsi

    @Twobarpsi

    2 ай бұрын

    @@JohanSegeborn Skol 🍺!!

  • @SoloSi2024
    @SoloSi20242 ай бұрын

    Be interesting to hear the heads swapped over too. Those cabs also have a big influence.

  • @jeffallen3382
    @jeffallen33822 ай бұрын

    I much preferred the Marshall over the Orange. Orange amps are kinda like Vox amps for me... I just don't care for their sound. I don't know what it is, but I've never heard either one of those two that I liked.

  • @gummo133
    @gummo1332 ай бұрын

    I had a 73 OR-120. Using an attenuator affected the tone quite a bit. It was quite a bit fuzzier without the attenuator. It's an extremely open, uncompressed sound that generally benefited from the compression coming from the attenuator. It sounded cool either way, but it was very doomy without the attenuator and more classic rock with it. Also, don't sleep on the clean sounds of the OR-120. Nothing has lower lows and higher highs.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    These attenuators are super transparent

  • @FleshOnGear
    @FleshOnGear2 ай бұрын

    I love that Orange midrange sound! I do wonder how much of those mids are the speakers and how much are the amp. This one sounds different from my ‘72 OR120, but I don’t have a proper vintage Orange cab, and maybe it’s dialed in differently. My OR can get thrash metal levels of distortion.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Marshall is actually more mid scooped than orange though the same speakers

  • @GraniteSoundtrack
    @GraniteSoundtrack2 ай бұрын

    Just play through both at the Sam time and you’d have even more great tone.

  • @idogepgyar
    @idogepgyar2 ай бұрын

    With that riff around 4:10 Orange is much tighter and fuller sounding than the Superlead, which feels super scooped compared to the Orange which sounds super punchy in the mids. This amp really shines with its matching cab, I believe. Would be interesting to compare these two with more distant miking and with the opposite cabs... Bet both of them will be just fine :)

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks, distant miking adds more of the room reflections so it does indeed even out the differences

  • @SCOTT-ki3ve
    @SCOTT-ki3ve2 ай бұрын

    Orange for the lead guitarist and marshall for the rhythm. The songs would mix themselves

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Yeah definitely!

  • @ER-yq1lc
    @ER-yq1lc2 ай бұрын

    The Orange would be a decent compliment second guitar track amp to a Marshall. But then again so would a HiWatt, Fender or Laney and those three would probably be funner to play, more flexible, look better, and you wouldn't have to learn hieroglyphics. I've never heard an Orange do anything something else couldn't do a little bit better. I couldn't hear just an old Orange alone without thinking the track could use a little something more. Also whenever I've seen those old beat club videos when the band ends up with the Orange backline it never sounds as good as when they are playing other stuff. I remember in the old days people liked the Orange cabs because they were a little deeper and bassier like another step beyond going from an A cab to a B cab, but to me they always seemed a little muddy and overlapped with what the bass was doing on the bottom end. I always kind of saw Oranges as an overpriced British Peavey, they have the same vibe to me. Even with their modern highgain amps today for metal, I would rather plug into an old 5150 instead. Seeing the two next to each other I'm reminded that we sometimes overlook how nice, classy, and cool Jim Marshall designed the look of his amps. You can't beat a Marshall. Sometimes things become cliche for a reason. Just my opinion of course.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks, yeah I love Marshall it’s the pinnacle of guitar tone, but I really think the orange is a great alternative if you want a middier tone

  • @FleshOnGear

    @FleshOnGear

    2 ай бұрын

    Man, that sure is a lot of text to just say you don’t like Orange amps. I’m lucky enough to own an Orange, and I can’t say I’ve ever played an amp that sounds like it, so I’m not sure how another amp (other than a Matamp) could do it better. I agree that modern Oranges aren’t great, though.

  • @ER-yq1lc

    @ER-yq1lc

    2 ай бұрын

    @@FleshOnGear Yeah I tend to ramble. I've always wanted to like Oranges, I like the way Matt Pike sounds with his stuff, if I played tuned down and used pedals those kind of amps would make perfect sense to use at loud volume. Most of my experience with them is back in the 80's when you would plug straight in and they just gave you too much of everything. Since I don't play as loud as I used to for that kind of stuff (which I admit is not really my wheelhouse) I like plugging straight into my 5150 or for recording a little Sunn Stinger 20 I turned into a head.

  • @FleshOnGear

    @FleshOnGear

    2 ай бұрын

    @@ER-yq1lc that’s fair. I get the rambling thing, and Oranges aren’t for everyone, obviously.

  • @AmpliFIRE
    @AmpliFIRE2 ай бұрын

    The Orange sounds "wooly" and muffled while the Marshall is clear and cutting. They would definitely blend well together. If I had to choose one it would definitely be the Marshall. Cheers!

  • @schmolly75
    @schmolly752 ай бұрын

    "currently for sale"... Don't explode it ! 😂 💥 😂 🔥😂

  • @user-qe4rs4gy9i
    @user-qe4rs4gy9i2 ай бұрын

    Obv the Marshall is wicked but the 0R120 is one of my faves played on the channel along with the impact, Selmer tnb and London city.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks! Glad you watch the videos! Cheers!

  • @firewalker6712
    @firewalker67122 ай бұрын

    Prefer the orange in this one.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @mr.k905
    @mr.k9052 ай бұрын

    I‘m surprised(?) I favored the Orange over the Marshall. More definition, less fizz, les distracting distortion, more balls, not as thin sounding. …I currently play a Marshall btw ; P

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    You should try an orange then!

  • @GL-iy7mj
    @GL-iy7mj2 ай бұрын

    I used to have an OR-120, I sometimes miss it but the lack of master volume was often an issue for me.

  • @eddieholmes3236
    @eddieholmes32362 ай бұрын

    Orange sounded great but perhaps a little clipped in comparison to the Super Lead which is stellar. Keep on rocking Johan!

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Eddie! Cheers!

  • @akasgsvirgil9503
    @akasgsvirgil95032 ай бұрын

    The six dislikes are from those who play Katanas. LOL!

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @Les537
    @Les5372 ай бұрын

    The Orange makes the Marshall sound tinny and scooped to my ear in this test. I'd take the Orange.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks, yeah I also thought it came out on top here

  • @scottstewart6353
    @scottstewart63532 ай бұрын

    Great comparison. The orange has a bit more "honk" to my ears.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Scott!

  • @alex4k
    @alex4k2 ай бұрын

    I think that the comparison should be with the same cab, mic and without attenuators, only switching the amps cab connection. On 5 it’s not neutral, at least in Marshall that is not hi fi tone stack (Baxandall).

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    There are several of those videos on the channel and you need two cabs if you’re not using attenuators. These attenuators are very transparent, shown in multiple videos here on the channel. The initial setting is just reference point as described in the video. It would indeed be interesting to see exactly, if any, which settings of the EQs are equivalent. Isn’t there some app for that from Seymour Duncan?

  • @alex4k

    @alex4k

    2 ай бұрын

    @@JohanSegeborn Tone stack simulator in Duncan amps. Anyway the differences between them are clear in the video, I’m always in the Marshall side of life. Your videos are worthy because today it’s difficult to reach the good old classics in person. Regards !

  • @dananthony6258
    @dananthony62582 ай бұрын

    If I'm being honest , I wasnt expecting the orange amps to sound that good. The marshall has more of a modern tone but that's probably why I like the orange better. The orange amp just sounds more in your face. Maybe it has more mids.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks, yeah I preferred the orange here too

  • @markbois1713
    @markbois17132 ай бұрын

    I actually prefer the Orange.

  • @bryanwilliams3665
    @bryanwilliams36652 ай бұрын

    They sound a lot closer than they do 'different'..In a blind test ,if you'd told me the Orange was a Marshall, i wouldn't have known otherwise.

  • @Antman-cy8ch
    @Antman-cy8ch2 ай бұрын

    Prefer the Orange.

  • @piggiron_sound33
    @piggiron_sound332 ай бұрын

    Marshall, all day

  • @markn4526
    @markn45262 ай бұрын

    Well, I don't think I've never heard an Orange amp sound better, BUT the Marshall just sounds meatier. It's in the low-mids, I guess. The Marshall has more grunt, where Orange almost sounds like it has a bell-like chime which I had never noticed with Orange amps before. Is that a Super Distortion pickup you have in the bridge position of your Les Paul?

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Mark! Yeah it’s a 1977 Super Distortion

  • @markn4526

    @markn4526

    2 ай бұрын

    @@JohanSegeborn They have a distinctive tone. Cheers!

  • @jplew138
    @jplew1382 ай бұрын

    Hell, both kick major butt, but i think the Orange has more high-mid frequencies and the Marshall has a bit more low end. Just my two cents 😊

  • @MrAlanGNR
    @MrAlanGNR2 ай бұрын

    This is what the difference of negative feedback feels like

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Interesting reflection

  • @krisford8813
    @krisford88132 ай бұрын

    My time owning an OR-120 was a huge disappointment. Zero breakup until you were deaf lol. Without PPIMV or a power soak..it's a clean amp up til about 8-9..one wire mod Super Lead or Bass for me! Watch the old Beat Club/Musikladen clips..you'll see that they aren't as distorted..VERY loud, and the singer is basically screaming. Look up The Sweet 'No You Don't" Musikladen 11.11.74. It is DEFINITELY a kick ass tone, but you can see how hard they have to push them.

  • @embreesmith7613
    @embreesmith76132 ай бұрын

    Notta lot of difference ony Phone Having both ps myself, the Orange is cleaner

  • @Myself6M
    @Myself6M2 ай бұрын

    The Marshall is great in a Mix but sounds harsh by itself.

  • @matthewedwards1089
    @matthewedwards10892 ай бұрын

    Instant Jimmy Page. The OR sounds amazing

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks Matthew!

  • @VictorSC88
    @VictorSC882 ай бұрын

    I notice you jump the inputs on the Marshalls more nowadays but I prefer hearing the more period-authentic use of high input alone. Please go back! (It’s up to you of course, in the end)

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi! Yeah I personally prefer to use only the high bright input too, but that’s really bright on a 76

  • @waterbuffalo4225
    @waterbuffalo42252 ай бұрын

    What amp in Orange's current product line is closest to the Orange OR-120? Incredible tones Johan

  • @mrkite89
    @mrkite892 ай бұрын

    Great amps and cabs, love your videos Johan! I was wondering...I generally agree that a cab that's twice the wattage of the amp is necessary to avoid blowing speakers, but how can two Celestion Blue handle an AC30?! Is the amp overrated or are the speakers underrated? My AC30 with two Blues is very loud and has lots of gain, but the speakers seem to not mind at all. 🤷‍♂

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    I agree, the Celestion Blues must be underrated. Cheers

  • @johncollins5552
    @johncollins555216 күн бұрын

    Vox AC 30 topboost is the GOAT.

  • @johncollins5552

    @johncollins5552

    16 күн бұрын

    That said both the Orange and superlead sound superb when you rock them!

  • @MichaelSorensen-bl3ec
    @MichaelSorensen-bl3ec2 ай бұрын

    Great video. Orange amps have always produced the goods, seen more than a few bands using them at gigs and they always have great tone. And loud! Spillede Leslie West ikke Orange-forstærkere?

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks! I think he used Sunn Amps and Marshall

  • @MichaelSorensen-bl3ec

    @MichaelSorensen-bl3ec

    2 ай бұрын

    @@JohanSegeborn Yes, you are correct. He used a Sunn Coliseum PA stack according to some interviews.

  • @R1GAMBLER
    @R1GAMBLER2 ай бұрын

    OR120 FTW

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks

  • @matthiask08
    @matthiask082 ай бұрын

    Hi Johan, could you imagine to make a video about using impulse responses instead of speakers and how to optimize the sound? I'm a bedroom player, and I find it sometimes difficult to tame the highs of my Marshall 1959 when listening over headphones.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Hi, I have no currents for it but I’ll definitely keep it in mind!

  • @VonRock
    @VonRock2 ай бұрын

    OR120 all the way

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Cheers

  • @endlesscurrent
    @endlesscurrent2 ай бұрын

    "Premiers in 32 minutes" (🍿 let's go!)

  • @DMSProduktions

    @DMSProduktions

    2 ай бұрын

    Premieres.

  • @endlesscurrent

    @endlesscurrent

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DMSProduktions Typo police. Careful, friends. Be very careful.

  • @DMSProduktions

    @DMSProduktions

    2 ай бұрын

    @@endlesscurrent ;o) Still, the 2 words are NOT the same! I see it often!

  • @endlesscurrent

    @endlesscurrent

    2 ай бұрын

    @@DMSProduktions You're right. I'm now throwing my keyboard out of the window just as I'm writing th3g34g42wre 23iurhru92hq3rofiwenq4fre#$T $Y#U%&HWGREGWTWRWTREHTR

  • @haganhere5592
    @haganhere55922 ай бұрын

    Question: How do you get the Orange to break up so nice? I have a 1973 OR 120 and it will not break up until it is 3/4 volume and does not sound like yours. Mine is so loud it is unbearable at any breakup level, and that is coming from someone who plays a 100 watt Marshall all the way up. Any advice or thoughts? I just use my Orange as a pedal platform amp because of its pure clean power.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    What pickups does your guitar have? This Super Distortion is very hot. If that doesn’t work I’d ask a tech to go through it. Cheers

  • @haganhere5592

    @haganhere5592

    2 ай бұрын

    @@JohanSegeborn Thanks for your reply. I use very hot pickups as well. The amp has tons of headroom. It has been serviced. I will go back over the circuit again, but it looks to be an all original amp. Thanks for your input!

  • @em001868
    @em0018682 ай бұрын

    I want the Orange because I already have Marshalls... 😂 But seriously, I didn't realize how clear and defined the Orange is/was. A great example is Paul Kossoff playing with an Orange backline in 1970: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o2Vnp7eOo6zZdqg.html

  • @jopkoenegracht7598
    @jopkoenegracht75982 ай бұрын

    I would prefer the demo without the attenuators, or are they not connected( i can see a cable on the Orange) anyway Marshall wins it for me

  • @qua7771
    @qua77712 ай бұрын

    Orangs sound, vs brown sound.

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    😉👍

  • @jakeb9121
    @jakeb91212 ай бұрын

    How about both together?

  • @islanderwinder
    @islanderwinder2 ай бұрын

    Please do the solid state Orange Super Crush 100

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Cool I’ll keep it in mind

  • @1sttvbn
    @1sttvbn2 ай бұрын

    You can’t really compare ANY amp to a classic Super Lead. Love my ‘72.

  • @BcBaxley
    @BcBaxley2 ай бұрын

    Get a sound level meter. Very easy way to match gain 😎🍻🤘

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks man, but the DAW has a couple of those

  • @BcBaxley

    @BcBaxley

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@JohanSegeborn Preamp Impedance with unpowered Mics is not nearly as accurate as a SPL meter with the same speaker distance, and or convenient... Play around with Preamp Impedance and find out 😁 Its why a neve , ssl, and api preamp "sound" different...A Sm57 will have a different sound do to the impedance not the actual transparent preamp🍻 I think 🤣🤘

  • @sollyharr
    @sollyharr2 ай бұрын

    why do you have the mics all facing down like that JS?

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    It actually gives a pretty balanced tone for close miking

  • @sollyharr

    @sollyharr

    2 ай бұрын

    @@JohanSegeborn ok thanks.

  • @AkiWataru
    @AkiWataru2 ай бұрын

    Hai

  • @cannabineros
    @cannabineros2 ай бұрын

    great amps and oh man what they can do with boosters). are those g12h30 celestions?

  • @JohanSegeborn

    @JohanSegeborn

    2 ай бұрын

    The Orange has G12H30 and Marshall has G12M25